US Customs and Border Protection - I hate them

[Angelhair]

I do agree that those who do not live in a border state have not a clue!!!

 

[editec]

Great first-person testamony, Annie.

Thanks.

What a freakin' mess.

 

[California Girl]

I have made one complaint to the Texas BP, and while it took a long tome, it did get handled.

Would you please tell me how you complained (on line complaint thinger or phone) and how they resolved it?

TIA

You seem like a slightly deranged brat.

Just saying.

 

[AnnieInMexico]

Why live in Mexico???? Pick one or the other and shut up about the rules and laws of the USA! You don't want the hassle, then pick a country and stay there! Problem solved.

Why? Many US citizens live in other countries. Why shouldn't a US citizen be able to go to the US to visit friends, pick up mail, etc? I'm not breaking any laws, I'm not doing anything wrong, so what's the problem?

I do agree that those who do not live in a border state have not a clue!!!

When you have to resort to attacks, you pretty well just lost the battle.

Great first-person testamony, Annie.

Thanks.

What a freakin' mess.

I really thought people who don't cross on a routine basis would want to know what it's like, how their tax dollars are being spent, how US citizens are being treated on a routine basis. In five years of this stuff this is the first time I ever spoke up.

So thank you for your comment.

I have made one complaint to the Texas BP, and while it took a long tome, it did get handled.

Would you please tell me how you complained (on line complaint thinger or phone) and how they resolved it?

TIA

You seem like a slightly deranged brat.

Just saying.

Right, again... when it's a topic you do not understand or relate to just attack. Bleh...

 

[WillowTree]

US Customs and Border Protection - I hate those people. I don't think most people realize who is earning their tax dollars. They are the largest law enforcement agency in the US. They get a whopping 11 weeks of training. ELEVEN weeks! That's it, count 'em! Then they are given a gun and a tremendous amount of power. Money isn't bad either, I forget the exact amount but I seem to recall that for that whole 11 weeks of training their starting salary is around $50K plus fantastic federal employee benefits. I know lots of people that would love to have that job and they'd do it for a whole lot less money and they would do it well. But, instead we have these toads doing the job.

I am a US citizen living in Mexico. I have been living here since last year but I have been crossing the border on a regular basis for five years. Every year it gets worse. I want to tell you things I have seen and experienced.

About a month ago my BMW was stolen. It was stolen in Mexico so I reported it to the city police in Mexico and that day crossed the border to report it in the US. The US wants these stolen car reports so if the car is taken across the border and pulled over, US law enforcement will know they are dealing with bad people. Besides, the car is registered in California. I was anxious to get it reported stolen because I had these visions of horror, people loading my car with drugs and crossing the border while the car is in my name. So my American friend, Ken, who also lives in Mexico went with me.

We started out at 1:30PM. We waited in the line until 2:45PM. Then we finally got to primary. That's basically where you are profiled, passports scanned, and you are asked why you were in Mexico, blah blah blah. If they have any doubt about your story, if you have drugs, or... if you are the 35th car you are sent to secondary. There you get out of your car, they search your car, scan your passports again, and ask you the same questions again. We were actually forgotten about. It was shift change and we were left waiting in 111(F) temps for two full hours. Finally someone noticed us and processed us and sent us on our way. But I want to tell you what I saw during those 2 hours.

The agent that searched our car has a staph infection on his lower legs. He has these pus soaked bandages with pus draining down his legs. HE is the guy that gets in your car to search it. When he was done there were yellow crusty things where he was when he was in the car. Gross.

When he was done searching the car he slammed the door shut and then yelled, "FUCK!" He thought he locked the keys in the car, he did not. He tried the door and realized it was not locked.

Later there was another agent about 5' away from us and yet another about 10' away from us. One of the agents yelled to the other agent, "Nothing but a bunch of fucking idiots showing up today!" The other agent yelled back, "I know, a bunch of fucking idiots!"

About 20' next to us was another car, two American elderly people. They were standing in front of their car as they were told to do. They were probably in their late 60s or early 70s. They were just standing there and an agent was walking by the older man and accidentally bumped into him. It was the agents fault but a simple mistake. Instead of saying excuse me, he stopped and began yelling at the older man saying, "What the fuck?" The citizen was not happy and they began a verbal exchange. The agent walked up to the old man and shoved him in the chest. It was insanity at its best! After the agent shoved the older man he did that stupid male macho thing, he took a step back, threw back his shoulders, and put his fists up. The joke was on the dumbass agent, turns out the older man is a retired border patrol agent. Within minutes a supervisor was there and dealing with the mess.

I could go on but I think you get the idea. These people are like children out of control. Ever been to a restaurant and kids are running around, screaming, undisciplined, and unruly? That's what these guys are but they have guns and a whole lot of power. These are the assholes protecting our borders. If they are doing such a great job I want to know why we have 30,000,000+ illegals in the US and more and more drugs entering the country daily? Eleven whole weeks of training, $50K a year and they are totally incapable of doing their jobs. I've been watching this stuff for 5 years now and I'm sick of it.

Senator Pryor from Arkansas is not a happy camper, his office researched these guys and found out that only 15% of them are polygraphed and of those 15%, 60% are disqualified due to criminal backgrounds, theft, etc. So if 60% are disqualified, why aren't they ALL polygraphed just like any other Law Enforcement Officer?

Two weeks ago they went too far. I'm going to the media with this. We have an appt Monday with a TV station in California and Tuesday a reporter from a newspaper is coming to Mexico to see first hand what I am talking about. The AZ Republic is also doing a story on border patrol. I'm out for blood this time.

My friend, Ken, owns a dental clinic in Mexico. A professor from the dental university here is his dentist. We were going to the US for various errands and I wanted to see if I could get lidocaine cheaper in the US for him. There are a millions types and strengths of lidocaine, it's the drug they use to numb you up before drilling on your teeth or suturing a wound. There is no way to abuse it, all it does is numb you up. It's totally legal to bring into the US. I stopped at the dental clinic, grabbed a sleeve of lidocaine since I'm not sure what strength dentists use and put it in my purse. We drove across the border and were sent to secondary. I think it was sticking out of my purse and primary saw it and didn't know what it was. I totally understand, no problem. I wasn't trying to hide it since it's not illegal to take to the US.

The agent at secondary didn't know what the drug was. He arrested me, handcuffed me, and then I was shackled to a chair for 3 hours while he Googled Lidocaine. I'm still okay with this because he really is just doing his job. I don't expect every agent to know every drug by heart, I get that. I knew as soon as he researched it he would see what it was, and it was legal.

What I DO have a problem with his what he said to me. Before researching it he told me I was nothing but a drug hag. I responded that I don't even know what that is. He said it is when my friend pays me $50 to cross the border with a car loaded with drugs. I explained there were no drugs in the car, search it, see for yourself. He responded, "Ohhhhh, we will! Every inch of it." I said that was fine. I knew there was nothing illegal in there. Then he went on to tell me that he couldn't understand what whore hags like me are thinking bringing all these drugs into the US. Whore hag?? I didn't even want to know what that meant. Then he asked me if I was a tweaker. I said no, I've never done illegal drugs. He responded, "Oh com'on ya little tweaker, tell me the truth!" Then he checked my arms for track marks, there are none.

It was hot that day, around 115(F). After three hours I asked for water, I was refused. I asked for a phone call, I was refused. I asked for a supervisor, I wanted to confront him about the whore hag, drug hag, and tweaker in front of his supervisor. I was refused.

After three hours of this he finally walked in the room, (it's like an office), put the lidocaine back in my purse, unshackled me, and admitted there is no way to abuse lidocaine, it was legal to bring into the US, and I was free to go. I just looked at him and sarcastically said... So I'm not a drug hag? He said no, I wasn't and I was free to go. I asked for a supervisor again and was denied. Totally against all their policies.

So I've been making an issue of this. I'm going to tell my story to every journalist who will listen. I've complained to everyone under the sun. The dumbass agent wasn't thinking clearly, they video tape EVERYTHING. It won't be my word against his, it's ALL video taped. Everything inside the building and outside as well. I have been getting calls from Washington DC, local people, everyone. Apparently the stink I'm making is working. But I'm not letting up.

THIS is why we have so many illegals and drugs in the US, these are the dumbasses securing our borders.

but you big dumbass, obiedoodle and janetfanet says the borders are better and safer than they've ever been before.. so cry us a fucking river whydonchya?

 

[AnnieInMexico]

US Customs and Border Protection - I hate those people. I don't think most people realize who is earning their tax dollars. They are the largest law enforcement agency in the US. They get a whopping 11 weeks of training. ELEVEN weeks! That's it, count 'em! Then they are given a gun and a tremendous amount of power. Money isn't bad either, I forget the exact amount but I seem to recall that for that whole 11 weeks of training their starting salary is around $50K plus fantastic federal employee benefits. I know lots of people that would love to have that job and they'd do it for a whole lot less money and they would do it well. But, instead we have these toads doing the job.

I am a US citizen living in Mexico. I have been living here since last year but I have been crossing the border on a regular basis for five years. Every year it gets worse. I want to tell you things I have seen and experienced.

About a month ago my BMW was stolen. It was stolen in Mexico so I reported it to the city police in Mexico and that day crossed the border to report it in the US. The US wants these stolen car reports so if the car is taken across the border and pulled over, US law enforcement will know they are dealing with bad people. Besides, the car is registered in California. I was anxious to get it reported stolen because I had these visions of horror, people loading my car with drugs and crossing the border while the car is in my name. So my American friend, Ken, who also lives in Mexico went with me.

We started out at 1:30PM. We waited in the line until 2:45PM. Then we finally got to primary. That's basically where you are profiled, passports scanned, and you are asked why you were in Mexico, blah blah blah. If they have any doubt about your story, if you have drugs, or... if you are the 35th car you are sent to secondary. There you get out of your car, they search your car, scan your passports again, and ask you the same questions again. We were actually forgotten about. It was shift change and we were left waiting in 111(F) temps for two full hours. Finally someone noticed us and processed us and sent us on our way. But I want to tell you what I saw during those 2 hours.

The agent that searched our car has a staph infection on his lower legs. He has these pus soaked bandages with pus draining down his legs. HE is the guy that gets in your car to search it. When he was done there were yellow crusty things where he was when he was in the car. Gross.

When he was done searching the car he slammed the door shut and then yelled, "FUCK!" He thought he locked the keys in the car, he did not. He tried the door and realized it was not locked.

Later there was another agent about 5' away from us and yet another about 10' away from us. One of the agents yelled to the other agent, "Nothing but a bunch of fucking idiots showing up today!" The other agent yelled back, "I know, a bunch of fucking idiots!"

About 20' next to us was another car, two American elderly people. They were standing in front of their car as they were told to do. They were probably in their late 60s or early 70s. They were just standing there and an agent was walking by the older man and accidentally bumped into him. It was the agents fault but a simple mistake. Instead of saying excuse me, he stopped and began yelling at the older man saying, "What the fuck?" The citizen was not happy and they began a verbal exchange. The agent walked up to the old man and shoved him in the chest. It was insanity at its best! After the agent shoved the older man he did that stupid male macho thing, he took a step back, threw back his shoulders, and put his fists up. The joke was on the dumbass agent, turns out the older man is a retired border patrol agent. Within minutes a supervisor was there and dealing with the mess.

I could go on but I think you get the idea. These people are like children out of control. Ever been to a restaurant and kids are running around, screaming, undisciplined, and unruly? That's what these guys are but they have guns and a whole lot of power. These are the assholes protecting our borders. If they are doing such a great job I want to know why we have 30,000,000+ illegals in the US and more and more drugs entering the country daily? Eleven whole weeks of training, $50K a year and they are totally incapable of doing their jobs. I've been watching this stuff for 5 years now and I'm sick of it.

Senator Pryor from Arkansas is not a happy camper, his office researched these guys and found out that only 15% of them are polygraphed and of those 15%, 60% are disqualified due to criminal backgrounds, theft, etc. So if 60% are disqualified, why aren't they ALL polygraphed just like any other Law Enforcement Officer?

Two weeks ago they went too far. I'm going to the media with this. We have an appt Monday with a TV station in California and Tuesday a reporter from a newspaper is coming to Mexico to see first hand what I am talking about. The AZ Republic is also doing a story on border patrol. I'm out for blood this time.

My friend, Ken, owns a dental clinic in Mexico. A professor from the dental university here is his dentist. We were going to the US for various errands and I wanted to see if I could get lidocaine cheaper in the US for him. There are a millions types and strengths of lidocaine, it's the drug they use to numb you up before drilling on your teeth or suturing a wound. There is no way to abuse it, all it does is numb you up. It's totally legal to bring into the US. I stopped at the dental clinic, grabbed a sleeve of lidocaine since I'm not sure what strength dentists use and put it in my purse. We drove across the border and were sent to secondary. I think it was sticking out of my purse and primary saw it and didn't know what it was. I totally understand, no problem. I wasn't trying to hide it since it's not illegal to take to the US.

The agent at secondary didn't know what the drug was. He arrested me, handcuffed me, and then I was shackled to a chair for 3 hours while he Googled Lidocaine. I'm still okay with this because he really is just doing his job. I don't expect every agent to know every drug by heart, I get that. I knew as soon as he researched it he would see what it was, and it was legal.

What I DO have a problem with his what he said to me. Before researching it he told me I was nothing but a drug hag. I responded that I don't even know what that is. He said it is when my friend pays me $50 to cross the border with a car loaded with drugs. I explained there were no drugs in the car, search it, see for yourself. He responded, "Ohhhhh, we will! Every inch of it." I said that was fine. I knew there was nothing illegal in there. Then he went on to tell me that he couldn't understand what whore hags like me are thinking bringing all these drugs into the US. Whore hag?? I didn't even want to know what that meant. Then he asked me if I was a tweaker. I said no, I've never done illegal drugs. He responded, "Oh com'on ya little tweaker, tell me the truth!" Then he checked my arms for track marks, there are none.

It was hot that day, around 115(F). After three hours I asked for water, I was refused. I asked for a phone call, I was refused. I asked for a supervisor, I wanted to confront him about the whore hag, drug hag, and tweaker in front of his supervisor. I was refused.

After three hours of this he finally walked in the room, (it's like an office), put the lidocaine back in my purse, unshackled me, and admitted there is no way to abuse lidocaine, it was legal to bring into the US, and I was free to go. I just looked at him and sarcastically said... So I'm not a drug hag? He said no, I wasn't and I was free to go. I asked for a supervisor again and was denied. Totally against all their policies.

So I've been making an issue of this. I'm going to tell my story to every journalist who will listen. I've complained to everyone under the sun. The dumbass agent wasn't thinking clearly, they video tape EVERYTHING. It won't be my word against his, it's ALL video taped. Everything inside the building and outside as well. I have been getting calls from Washington DC, local people, everyone. Apparently the stink I'm making is working. But I'm not letting up.

THIS is why we have so many illegals and drugs in the US, these are the dumbasses securing our borders.

but you big dumbass, obiedoodle and janetfanet says the borders are better and safer than they've ever been before.. so cry us a fucking river whydonchya?

Yeah, as if we all didn't know I'm here to tell you they LIE!

 

[WillowTree]

Wow. That was quick. I expected that response. You bitch to much...I think you mean, "if I don't like your thread, don't RESPOND". I think YOU missed MY point here. Should I spell it out? You are whining like a child. If you don't like your "situation", MOVE back to the US. I live with MEXICANS, here in the US, and the situation you dealt with is petty. Try living with illegal Mexicans! I am contrasting my experience to yours. You, dear, are being petty. And, oblivious. I can spell it out even more if you like.

Your bigotry is not my problem. I lived in Phoenix for the last 25 years until last year. I know about illegals. 50% of all illegals cross through Arizona, the rest of illegals cross through all the other border states combined. I am well aware and very vocal about the problem.

Your whining makes you look childish. Your bigotry makes you look silly. But quite frankly it has nothing to do with this thread.

You have NO clue what these Mexicans have done to me, or why I post, do YOU? I have no idea why you fled to Mexico, you have no idea what traumas illegal Mexicans have done to me, either. Don’t write this off to something as simplistic as bigotry, sis.

she's one of those who toss out "racist" and "bigot" cause they have no arguement. get used to it. her entire rants was about Americans trying to do a difficult job.. she's probably one of those Mexicans who think they should just be able to waltz un impeded across the border at their leisure. how dare those border patrol interfere with them.

 

[AnnieInMexico]

Your bigotry is not my problem. I lived in Phoenix for the last 25 years until last year. I know about illegals. 50% of all illegals cross through Arizona, the rest of illegals cross through all the other border states combined. I am well aware and very vocal about the problem.

Your whining makes you look childish. Your bigotry makes you look silly. But quite frankly it has nothing to do with this thread.

You have NO clue what these Mexicans have done to me, or why I post, do YOU? I have no idea why you fled to Mexico, you have no idea what traumas illegal Mexicans have done to me, either. Don’t write this off to something as simplistic as bigotry, sis.

she's one of those who toss out "racist" and "bigot" cause they have no arguement. get used to it. her entire rants was about Americans trying to do a difficult job.. she's probably one of those Mexicans who think they should just be able to waltz un impeded across the border at their leisure. how dare those border patrol interfere with them.

I never said the man was racist, he came up with that on his own. My entire rant had nothing in the world to do with Americans doing a difficult job. I'm not a Mexican. German/Irish born and raised in Iowa. I have every legal right in the world cross the border. I didn't complain that I had an encounter with border patrol, I complained that he was amazingly unprofessional and broke many rules of his own agency. I did nothing wrong.

But I will grant you, you do have to stoop to your level to defend the crazy little ass.

 

[WillowTree]

You have NO clue what these Mexicans have done to me, or why I post, do YOU? I have no idea why you fled to Mexico, you have no idea what traumas illegal Mexicans have done to me, either. Don’t write this off to something as simplistic as bigotry, sis.

she's one of those who toss out "racist" and "bigot" cause they have no arguement. get used to it. her entire rants was about Americans trying to do a difficult job.. she's probably one of those Mexicans who think they should just be able to waltz un impeded across the border at their leisure. how dare those border patrol interfere with them.

I never said the man was racist, he came up with that on his own. My entire rant had nothing in the world to do with Americans doing a difficult job. I'm not a Mexican. German/Irish born and raised in Iowa. I have every legal right in the world cross the border. I didn't complain that I had an encounter with border patrol, I complained that he was amazingly unprofessional and broke many rules of his own agency. I did nothing wrong.

But I will grant you, you do have to stoop to your level to defend the crazy little ass.

tsk tsk tsk,, you izz deranged and outraged! We go through much more just trying to board an airplane. stay in Mexico. you life will be much easier I'm sure.

 

[editec]

The trolls are circling like sharks per usual.

A fellow American citizen tells us about the problems she encounters at the US Mexican border and what does she get for sharing this venette with us?

Abuse.

Childing fucking abuse.

This is the kind of silly trolling crap that I'm talking about (in another thread) that makes me not the person to moderate this place.

Jesus people, show your fellow posters some courtesy.

Is that too much to ask?

 

[Angelhair]

The trolls are circling like sharks per usual.

A fellow American citizen tells us about the problems she encounters at the US Mexican border and what does she get for sharing this venette with us?

Abuse.

Childing fucking abuse.

This is the kind of silly trolling crap that I'm talking about (in another thread) that makes me not the person to moderate this place.

Jesus people, show your fellow posters some courtesy.

Is that too much to ask?

Yes as a matter of fact it is - can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

 

[Sunshine]

Your big mistake was taking a quantity of a medication (any medication) with you when you tried to cross the border. Ordinary people, even BP agents, are not experts on every drug in the PDR. I can understand their concern. You should just let your dentist friend take care of his own business. I think you were lucky they didn't suspect you of replacing the lidocaine in the bottles with some addicting drug. Given that, I think your treatment was fairly generous on the part of BP.

You made a bad choice and because of it you were treated badly. The best thing you can do is to learn from it, let it go, and move on.

My daughter's inlaws have retired to a fancy pants place in Mexico. They cross over two times a year with no issues. But then they don't import/export large quantities of medication.

Sorry, I just can't hop on the bandwagon of someone who has such poor judgment.

 

[Sunshine]

tsk tsk tsk,, you izz deranged and outraged! We go through much more just trying to board an airplane. stay in Mexico. you life will be much easier I'm sure.

This is true. It was bad being an old lady with joint replacments. But now that I'm on a continuous infusion medication pump, God only knows how bad it will be.

This entire thread boils down to someone with very bad judgment being called a name. BFD!~ LOL

 

[AnnieInMexico]

Your big mistake was taking a quantity of a medication (any medication) with you when you tried to cross the border. Ordinary people, even BP agents, are not experts on every drug in the PDR. I can understand their concern. You should just let your dentist friend take care of his own business. I think you were lucky they didn't suspect you of replacing the lidocaine in the bottles with some addicting drug. Given that, I think your treatment was fairly generous on the part of BP.

You made a bad choice and because of it you were treated badly. The best thing you can do is to learn from it, let it go, and move on.

My daughter's inlaws have retired to a fancy pants place in Mexico. They cross over two times a year with no issues. But then they don't import/export large quantities of medication.

Sorry, I just can't hop on the bandwagon of someone who has such poor judgment.

Actually, I made the very point that I wasn't upset that I was detained, I made the point they were just doing their jobs. I further made the point that no agent is expected to know every drug. None of those are my complaints.

In the last month I have been referred to as a fucking idiot showing up today (as we all were), a drug hag, a whore hag, and a tweaker. This is not acceptable in my world. Especially when in the end I was doing nothing wrong, given the drug back, and told I was free to go. Are you not seeing the difference here? I was not importing a large quantity of medicaion either. 40 of them would have easily fit in my purse, I took 1.

I've seen them shove old men, swear at them, swear at all of us, insult all of us, this is not acceptable behavior. I sure wouldn't get by with it at work, would you? Especially on a routine basis? How long would your employment last (or would have lasted if you are no longer working) if you did these behaviors on a regular day?

 

[Sunshine]

Your big mistake was taking a quantity of a medication (any medication) with you when you tried to cross the border. Ordinary people, even BP agents, are not experts on every drug in the PDR. I can understand their concern. You should just let your dentist friend take care of his own business. I think you were lucky they didn't suspect you of replacing the lidocaine in the bottles with some addicting drug. Given that, I think your treatment was fairly generous on the part of BP.

You made a bad choice and because of it you were treated badly. The best thing you can do is to learn from it, let it go, and move on.

My daughter's inlaws have retired to a fancy pants place in Mexico. They cross over two times a year with no issues. But then they don't import/export large quantities of medication.

Sorry, I just can't hop on the bandwagon of someone who has such poor judgment.

Actually, I made the very point that I wasn't upset that I was detained, I made the point they were just doing their jobs. I further made the point that no agent is expected to know every drug. None of those are my complaints.

In the last month I have been referred to as a fucking idiot showing up today (as we all were), a drug hag, a whore hag, and a tweaker. This is not acceptable in my world. Especially when in the end I was doing nothing wrong, given the drug back, and told I was free to go. Are you not seeing the difference here? I was not importing a large quantity of medicaion either. 40 of them would have easily fit in my purse, I took 1.

I've seen them shove old men, swear at them, swear at all of us, insult all of us, this is not acceptable behavior. I sure wouldn't get by with it at work, would you? Especially on a routine basis? How long would your employment last (or would have lasted if you are no longer working) if you did these behaviors on a regular day?

So you were called a name. Big Whoop. I am not a BP agent, so my job is immaterial to this thread.

Unless you are Don Quixote, you really should let others fight their own battles with BP. But then even he didn't accomplish much, did he? You clearly do not understand bureaucracy nor the far reaching repercussions of stirring things up.

 

[AnnieInMexico]

So you were called a name. Big Whoop. I am not a BP agent, so my job is immaterial to this thread.

Unless you are Don Quixote, you really should let others fight their own battles with BP. But then even he didn't accomplish much, did he? You clearly do not understand bureaucracy nor the far reaching repercussions of stirring things up.

I didn't ask if you were border patrol, I didn't even ask what you did for a living. What I asked is if in your job capacity could you have routinely treated people such as i describe and kept your job. Could you call customers, patients, clients, what have you, names such as drug hag, whore hag, fucking idiot, or tweaker on a daily basis and kept your job?

Could you have pushed shoved innocent old men?

A simple yes or no would suffice. No need to dodge the question.

But then I have a hunch we already know the answer anyway.

 

[Sunshine]

So you were called a name. Big Whoop. I am not a BP agent, so my job is immaterial to this thread.

Unless you are Don Quixote, you really should let others fight their own battles with BP. But then even he didn't accomplish much, did he? You clearly do not understand bureaucracy nor the far reaching repercussions of stirring things up.

I didn't ask if you were border patrol, I didn't even ask what you did for a living. What I asked is if in your job capacity could you have routinely treated people such as i describe and kept your job. Could you call customers, patients, clients, what have you, names such as drug hag, whore hag, fucking idiot, or tweaker on a daily basis and kept your job?

Could you have pushed shoved innocent old men?

A simple yes or no would suffice. No need to dodge the question.

But then I have a hunch we already know the answer anyway.

What I can or can't do in my job is immaterial to your issues with BP. You got called a name. Your best bet is to just drop it.

It is up to those people who were pushed or shoved to fight their own battle. Until they do you don't have a leg to stand on. You don't know them, you can't name them, they cannot be contacted to corroborate your story. You will just look like a bigger dunce when you make such accusations. And you could get yourself sued in the process.

 

[AnnieInMexico]

BTW, we aren't speaking of Border Patrol here, the topic is US Customs and Border Protection. I just verified, two totally different agencies.

My issue is with US Customs and Border Protection, not border patrol.

 

[AnnieInMexico]

What I can or can't do in my job is immaterial to your issues with BP. You got called a name. Your best bet is to just drop it.

It is up to those people who were pushed or shoved to fight their own battle. Until they do you don't have a leg to stand on. You don't know them, you can't name them, they cannot be contacted to corroborate your story. You will just look like a bigger dunce when you make such accusations. And you could get yourself sued in the process.

Thank you. You just answered my question. Your tail would have been fired.

See, that wasn't so hard little troll.

How do you know I can't contact these people? Besides, it's all video taped. I really have tried to explain this all to you earlier.

Done with you too. No patience for trolls.

 

[Sunshine]

BTW, we aren't speaking of Border Patrol here, the topic is US Customs and Border Protection. I just verified, two totally different agencies.

My issue is with US Customs and Border Protection, not border patrol.

What I can or can't do in my job is immaterial to your issues with BP. You got called a name. Your best bet is to just drop it.

It is up to those people who were pushed or shoved to fight their own battle. Until they do you don't have a leg to stand on. You don't know them, you can't name them, they cannot be contacted to corroborate your story. You will just look like a bigger dunce when you make such accusations. And you could get yourself sued in the process.

Thank you. You just answered my question. Your tail would have been fired.

See, that wasn't so hard little troll.

How do you know I can't contact these people? Besides, it's all video taped. I really have tried to explain this all to you earlier.

Done with you too. No patience for trolls.

It would seem you have no patience with someone who would tell you how foolish you are being. And you are. You sound like Rodney Dangerfield................'I get no respect'.......LOL