US approves sending F-16s to Ukraine from Denmark and Netherlands

[Burgermeister]

Cluster bombs. F-16s. Feels like we are solidly in the fuck around and find out zone. The President is supposed to do the opposite of provoking a nuclear war.

WASHINGTON, Aug 17 (Reuters) - The United States has approved sending F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine from Denmark and the Netherlands to defend against Russian invaders as soon as pilot training is completed, a U.S. official said on Thursday.

Ukraine has actively sought the U.S.-made F-16 fighter jets to help it counter Russian air superiority.

Washington gave Denmark and the Netherlands official assurances that the United States will expedite approval of transfer requests for F-16s to go to Ukraine when the pilots are trained, the official said.

US approves sending F-16s to Ukraine from Denmark and Netherlands

The United States has approved sending F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine from Denmark and the Netherlands to defend against Russian invaders as soon as pilot training is completed, a U.S. official said on Thursday.

www.reuters.com

 

[Donald H]

Cluster bombs. F-16s. Feels like we are solidly in the fuck around and find out zone. The President is supposed to do the opposite of provoking a nuclear war.

WASHINGTON, Aug 17 (Reuters) - The United States has approved sending F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine from Denmark and the Netherlands to defend against Russian invaders as soon as pilot training is completed, a U.S. official said on Thursday.

Ukraine has actively sought the U.S.-made F-16 fighter jets to help it counter Russian air superiority.

Washington gave Denmark and the Netherlands official assurances that the United States will expedite approval of transfer requests for F-16s to go to Ukraine when the pilots are trained, the official said.

US approves sending F-16s to Ukraine from Denmark and Netherlands

The United States has approved sending F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine from Denmark and the Netherlands to defend against Russian invaders as soon as pilot training is completed, a U.S. official said on Thursday.

www.reuters.com

It's doubtful these escalations will cause Russia to take extreme measures. Popular opinion is that Russia is capable of destroying all the F-16's before they reach the battle lines.

In the real world, there's no point in escalating a war that's already decided. Russia counters every Ukraine move with impunity.

 

[toobfreak]

Cluster bombs. F-16s. Feels like we are solidly in the fuck around and find out zone. The President is supposed to do the opposite of provoking a nuclear war.

Biden has done far worse than that. He has driven Russia into the hands of the Chinese to form, a new joint military and economic alliance against the USA.

 

[elektra]

When will the Democrats and Biden finish paying their debt to the Ukraine for firing the prosecutor investigating the Bidens? Seems like that debt should be paid off by now.

F-16 jets seems like a steep payment for the few millions that the Democrats extorted from the Ukraine.

 

[Donald H]

Biden has done far worse than that. He has driven Russia into the hands of the Chinese to form, a new joint military and economic alliance against the USA.

Can you imagine any way that could have been avoided?
The situation is only a preliminary reaction by America that is testing the waters for the reactions of China and Russia.
Of greatest significance is the question on whether America or Russia will prevail in the Ukraine.

Americans are being slow on coming to the understanding that the outcome of the war against Russia is of huge consequence globally.

There may still be a possibility of a mutually agreed upon peace settlement that doesn't need any consideration for the fate of the Ukraine.

China will almost certainly provide the table over which negotiations can happen.

 

[toobfreak]

Can you imagine any way that could have been avoided?

Easily. By simply doing the EXACT OPPOSITE of everything Biden has done and act like a real US president for a change: brokering peace talks, a cease fire and a settlement between Russian and Ukraine that would have settled this thing a year ago without the bloodshed instead of weaponizing the US dollar and trying to show the world what a BMOC Biden was trying to cut off their money, banks, and blowing up the Nordstream II, then flooding Russia's border with billions in revenue, jets, tanks and missiles.

 

[Kilroy2]

Russian air strikes are hitting civilian population building. It probably is an escalation but people are dying because Russia is targeting civilian.

 

[Donald H]

Easily. By simply doing the EXACT OPPOSITE of everything Biden has done and act like a real US president for a change:

Caving to Russia's and China's endgame of creating a Brics that eclipses America's economic and military power. I think you still don't appreciate the reason and the purpose of America starting a proxy war against Russia.
For you, it's worth mentioning that RFK junior spilt the beans. Nuff said on that!

brokering peace talks, a cease fire and a settlement between Russian and Ukraine that would have settled this thing a year ago without the bloodshed instead of weaponizing the US dollar and trying to show the world what a BMOC Biden was trying to cut off their money, banks, and blowing up the Nordstream II, then flooding Russia's border with billions in revenue, jets, tanks and missiles.

The facts are, Russia and the Ukraine had reached agreement at the Minsk talks. That we know through Kennedy's explanation.

America didn't allow peace to happen.

What would Trump have done differently? Allow Russia and China to proceed unchallenged?
In hoopes that we can have a normal and rational discussion?

 

[Donald H]

Russian air strikes are hitting civilian population building. It probably is an escalation but people are dying because Russia is targeting civilian.

It's all suspect as propaganda by the Ukraine.
But if it's factual, then it will most likely be an escalation in kind by Russia.

The sad fact of the matter for the Ukrainians is that any escalation by their military can be answered by Russia X10 at least.

Only America has the capability to turn this war around for the Ukraine.

But that's the final escalation that must always be forbidden.

 

[Kilroy2]

Well the Afghan war did last for about 10 years before Russia gave up. Yes and when the US left, the country fell into the control of the Taliban.

Yes, Ukraine has and will suffer huge casualties.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Ukrainian F-16 Combat Proficiency At Scale Not Likely Before 2027, Air Force General Says

Training demands mean Ukraine won't get F-16s until next year at the earliest and substantial combat proficiency will take much longer.

www.thedrive.com

 

[Rogue AI]

Russian air strikes are hitting civilian population building. It probably is an escalation but people are dying because Russia is targeting civilian.

Russia is clearly not targeting civilians, if they were they would level whole neighborhoods at a time.

 

[Kilroy2]

Russia is clearly not targeting civilians, if they were they would level whole neighborhoods at a time.

Ukraine: civilian casualty update 14 August 2023

Date: 14 August 20231 Civilian casualties from 1 to 13 August 2023 From 1 to 13 August 2023, Office of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) recorded 258 civilian casualties in Ukraine: 48 killed (23 men, 21 women, 1 boy, 1 girl, as well as 2 adults whose sex is not yet known), and...

www.ohchr.org

Does it really matter if they are targeting civilian's when there are significant number of civilian casualties being reported. Russia invaded and they are war.

 

[pknopp]

The question we should ask is why are these jets in the Netherlands and Denmark to start with?

 

[skye]

Let them send the F-16s

They will be destroyed, like 90% of arms sent to Ukraine.

 

[Manonthestreet]

The question we should ask is why are these jets in the Netherlands and Denmark to start with?

This will be over before they learn to use them effectively. Never should have been sent. More mindless waste