United States now has more Spanish speakers than Spain – only Mexico has more

[hoosier88]

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Nothing like now. This is a great wound to America.

To the US? No, the peak immigration to the US from non-English speaking backgrounds was probably in the 1890s to 1910 CE or so. We had massive immigration, due to various factors. We coped, the public schools in the big cities in the Northeast - where the population tended to come in - did yeoman duty in helping to teach & acculturate the children, & there was also adult education - mostly language lessons, as I recall.

By what metrics do you consider that worse than today?

It's numerical - by sheer weight of numbers. Was there some other metric to apply? It seemed like a straightforward comparison to me.

So because we had a big wave before and managed to deal with it, you assume that we can again.

That's assume that the immigrants are basically the same and the nation is basically the same.

Both are not true.

The various European colonies & then the US in the New World have had a series of waves of immigration, typically from disasters or wars or crop failures in Europe. The Irish, bless them, were Caucasian & Christian & spoke English (often enough). It didn't help them in the short term, because groups of people & governments & churches can improvise - the Irish weren't the right flavor of Christianity (even if they were of the first flavor, excepting Judaism), they didn't come with scads of money nor aristos to speak up for them. & they were accused of being illiterate, thieves, drunkards, undisciplined, too fertile, & so on - the usual litany - as if that were going to deter anyone.

Yah, I assume that the US is still attractive - politically, economically, religiously, technologically, & in other ways - to a lot of the World. People still want to come to the US, & throw in with us. Yes, we managed to bring in peoples from Eastern & Southern Europe - & still the republic soldiers on. We've brought people in from our various adventures in Asia, the Middle East, Central & S. America, Africa, the Pacific - & we're still standing.

Yes, we have problems. But I don't see people braving mines, guard dogs & automatic weapons fire to break into N. Korea, China nor CIS - nor Cuba, for that matter. As long as people vote with their feet & against the odds & dangers to come here, I figure we're doing something right.

 

[hoosier88]

Millions of Democrat Voters are Racist Aztlan Nationalist who do not accept that America is a sovereign country and an english peaking country.

Hmm. & just out of curiosity, When precisely did they peak?

 

[Desperado]

In the ways that matter, they are.

Our nation used to demand assimilation. NOw we celebrate diversity.

Right there, we can't assume that the past will repeat.

Immigration without assimulation is called an invasion.

Immigrants today are assimilating just as those before them did.

No, no they're not. ....

They certainly are. If anything, they are assimilating more quickly and completely than those who came before.

Today’s immigrants assimilate faster than the Europeans who came before them

I take it you have never been to South Florida. The immigrants have carved out different areas forthemselves.The haitians have little haiti and north miami, the cubans have little Havanna and Hialeah, the south americans have the Doral area.
God knows where the Porta Rican immigrants will carve out for themselves. These groups all retain their language and culture making little or no effort to learn American traditons and culture.

 

[Unkotare]

Our nation used to demand assimilation. NOw we celebrate diversity.

Right there, we can't assume that the past will repeat.

Immigration without assimulation is called an invasion.

Immigrants today are assimilating just as those before them did.

No, no they're not. ....

They certainly are. If anything, they are assimilating more quickly and completely than those who came before.

Today’s immigrants assimilate faster than the Europeans who came before them

I take it you have never been to South Florida. The immigrants have carved out different areas forthemselves.The haitians have little haiti and north miami, the cubans have little Havanna and Hialeah, the south americans have the Doral area.
God knows where the Porta Rican immigrants will carve out for themselves. These groups all retain their language and culture making little or no effort to learn American traditons and culture.

The 1880s called and asked you to return their irrational fears.

 

[Correll]

Nothing like now. This is a great wound to America.

To the US? No, the peak immigration to the US from non-English speaking backgrounds was probably in the 1890s to 1910 CE or so. We had massive immigration, due to various factors. We coped, the public schools in the big cities in the Northeast - where the population tended to come in - did yeoman duty in helping to teach & acculturate the children, & there was also adult education - mostly language lessons, as I recall.

By what metrics do you consider that worse than today?

It's numerical - by sheer weight of numbers. Was there some other metric to apply? It seemed like a straightforward comparison to me.

So because we had a big wave before and managed to deal with it, you assume that we can again.

That's assume that the immigrants are basically the same and the nation is basically the same.

Both are not true.

The various European colonies & then the US in the New World have had a series of waves of immigration, typically from disasters or wars or crop failures in Europe. The Irish, bless them, were Caucasian & Christian & spoke English (often enough). It didn't help them in the short term, because groups of people & governments & churches can improvise - the Irish weren't the right flavor of Christianity (even if they were of the first flavor, excepting Judaism), they didn't come with scads of money nor aristos to speak up for them. & they were accused of being illiterate, thieves, drunkards, undisciplined, too fertile, & so on - the usual litany - as if that were going to deter anyone.

Yah, I assume that the US is still attractive - politically, economically, religiously, technologically, & in other ways - to a lot of the World. People still want to come to the US, & throw in with us. Yes, we managed to bring in peoples from Eastern & Southern Europe - & still the republic soldiers on. We've brought people in from our various adventures in Asia, the Middle East, Central & S. America, Africa, the Pacific - & we're still standing.

Yes, we have problems. But I don't see people braving mines, guard dogs & automatic weapons fire to break into N. Korea, China nor CIS - nor Cuba, for that matter. As long as people vote with their feet & against the odds & dangers to come here, I figure we're doing something right.

1. Being better than Mexico is not much of an accomoplishment.

2. Those waves ENDED, which this one won't unless we stop it.

3. And the Mexicans are not Irish.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Millions of Democrat Voters are Racist Aztlan Nationalist who do not accept that America is a sovereign country and an english peaking country.

Link?

Chicano Nationalism, Revanchism and the Aztlan Myth | Federation for American Immigration Reform
La Raza Facts
Racist Mexican Gangs "Ethnic Cleansing" Blacks In L.A.
‘Brown Pride’: University of California at Los Angeles Gives $100,000 to Racist Group

 

[Unkotare]

Millions of Democrat Voters are Racist Aztlan Nationalist who do not accept that America is a sovereign country and an english peaking country.

Link?

Chicano Nationalism, Revanchism and the Aztlan Myth | Federation for American Immigration Reform
La Raza Facts
Racist Mexican Gangs "Ethnic Cleansing" Blacks In L.A.
‘Brown Pride’: University of California at Los Angeles Gives $100,000 to Racist Group

Those links don’t support your claim.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Millions of Democrat Voters are Racist Aztlan Nationalist who do not accept that America is a sovereign country and an english peaking country.

Link?

Chicano Nationalism, Revanchism and the Aztlan Myth | Federation for American Immigration Reform
La Raza Facts
Racist Mexican Gangs "Ethnic Cleansing" Blacks In L.A.
‘Brown Pride’: University of California at Los Angeles Gives $100,000 to Racist Group

Those links don’t support your claim.

ooooook disconnected from reality lol
the only reason is why?
are you ashamed of the racist Aztlan Nationalist Democrats?

 

[Correll]

Millions of Democrat Voters are Racist Aztlan Nationalist who do not accept that America is a sovereign country and an english peaking country.

Link?

Chicano Nationalism, Revanchism and the Aztlan Myth | Federation for American Immigration Reform
La Raza Facts
Racist Mexican Gangs "Ethnic Cleansing" Blacks In L.A.
‘Brown Pride’: University of California at Los Angeles Gives $100,000 to Racist Group

Those links don’t support your claim.

Your empty denials are weak compared to shit such as this.




6. Former “Race” president Raul Yzaguirre, Hillary Clinton’s Hispanic outreach adviser, said this: “U.S. English is to Hispanics as the Ku Klux Klan is to blacks.” He was referring to U.S. English, the nation’s oldest, largest citizens’ action group dedicated to preserving the unifying role of the English language in the United States. “The Race” also pioneered Orwellian open-borders Newspeak and advised the Mexican government on how to lobby for illegal alien amnesty while avoiding the terms “illegal” and “amnesty.”

Read more at: La Raza Facts

 

[Unkotare]

Millions of Democrat Voters are Racist Aztlan Nationalist who do not accept that America is a sovereign country and an english peaking country.

Link?

Chicano Nationalism, Revanchism and the Aztlan Myth | Federation for American Immigration Reform
La Raza Facts
Racist Mexican Gangs "Ethnic Cleansing" Blacks In L.A.
‘Brown Pride’: University of California at Los Angeles Gives $100,000 to Racist Group

Those links don’t support your claim.

ooooook disconnected from reality lol
the only reason is why?
are you ashamed of the racist Aztlan Nationalist Democrats?

That seems to be your business. I’m just saying that your claim was specific, and the links didn’t support it.

 

[Unkotare]

Millions of Democrat Voters are Racist Aztlan Nationalist who do not accept that America is a sovereign country and an english peaking country.

Link?

Chicano Nationalism, Revanchism and the Aztlan Myth | Federation for American Immigration Reform
La Raza Facts
Racist Mexican Gangs "Ethnic Cleansing" Blacks In L.A.
‘Brown Pride’: University of California at Los Angeles Gives $100,000 to Racist Group

Those links don’t support your claim.

Your empty denials are weak compared to shit such as this.




6. Former “Race” president Raul Yzaguirre, Hillary Clinton’s Hispanic outreach adviser, said this: “U.S. English is to Hispanics as the Ku Klux Klan is to blacks.” He was referring to U.S. English, the nation’s oldest, largest citizens’ action group dedicated to preserving the unifying role of the English language in the United States. “The Race” also pioneered Orwellian open-borders Newspeak and advised the Mexican government on how to lobby for illegal alien amnesty while avoiding the terms “illegal” and “amnesty.”

Read more at: La Raza Facts

And? Who has denied that la raza is a whacky little fringe extremist group? You seem to want to keep making the same error in logic. The existence of this group is ‘proof’ that every Latino democrat is a member? Does that really sound reasonable to you?

 

[Correll]

Millions of Democrat Voters are Racist Aztlan Nationalist who do not accept that America is a sovereign country and an english peaking country.

Link?

Chicano Nationalism, Revanchism and the Aztlan Myth | Federation for American Immigration Reform
La Raza Facts
Racist Mexican Gangs "Ethnic Cleansing" Blacks In L.A.
‘Brown Pride’: University of California at Los Angeles Gives $100,000 to Racist Group

Those links don’t support your claim.

Your empty denials are weak compared to shit such as this.




6. Former “Race” president Raul Yzaguirre, Hillary Clinton’s Hispanic outreach adviser, said this: “U.S. English is to Hispanics as the Ku Klux Klan is to blacks.” He was referring to U.S. English, the nation’s oldest, largest citizens’ action group dedicated to preserving the unifying role of the English language in the United States. “The Race” also pioneered Orwellian open-borders Newspeak and advised the Mexican government on how to lobby for illegal alien amnesty while avoiding the terms “illegal” and “amnesty.”

Read more at: La Raza Facts

And? Who has denied that la raza is a whacky little fringe extremist group? You seem to want to keep making the same error in logic. The existence of this group is ‘proof’ that every Latino democrat is a member? Does that really sound reasonable to you?

Hillary Clinton, as the chosen Presidential Candidate of one of the two major Political Parties in this nation, shows that she disagrees with her action of

hiring this person as "hispanic outreach adviser".


Her actions shows that she and her campaign consider that person to be the best choice for them to reach out to the second largest ethnic group in this nation.

 

[Unkotare]

Millions of Democrat Voters are Racist Aztlan Nationalist who do not accept that America is a sovereign country and an english peaking country.

Link?

Chicano Nationalism, Revanchism and the Aztlan Myth | Federation for American Immigration Reform
La Raza Facts
Racist Mexican Gangs "Ethnic Cleansing" Blacks In L.A.
‘Brown Pride’: University of California at Los Angeles Gives $100,000 to Racist Group

Those links don’t support your claim.

Your empty denials are weak compared to shit such as this.




6. Former “Race” president Raul Yzaguirre, Hillary Clinton’s Hispanic outreach adviser, said this: “U.S. English is to Hispanics as the Ku Klux Klan is to blacks.” He was referring to U.S. English, the nation’s oldest, largest citizens’ action group dedicated to preserving the unifying role of the English language in the United States. “The Race” also pioneered Orwellian open-borders Newspeak and advised the Mexican government on how to lobby for illegal alien amnesty while avoiding the terms “illegal” and “amnesty.”

Read more at: La Raza Facts

And? Who has denied that la raza is a whacky little fringe extremist group? You seem to want to keep making the same error in logic. The existence of this group is ‘proof’ that every Latino democrat is a member? Does that really sound reasonable to you?

There is a question at the end of the post.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Immigration without assimulation is called an invasion.

Immigrants today are assimilating just as those before them did.

No, no they're not. ....

They certainly are. If anything, they are assimilating more quickly and completely than those who came before.

Today’s immigrants assimilate faster than the Europeans who came before them

I take it you have never been to South Florida. The immigrants have carved out different areas forthemselves.The haitians have little haiti and north miami, the cubans have little Havanna and Hialeah, the south americans have the Doral area.
God knows where the Porta Rican immigrants will carve out for themselves. These groups all retain their language and culture making little or no effort to learn American traditons and culture.

The 1880s called and asked you to return their irrational fears.

Wrong! That is an everyday reality in South Florida. Why the fuck can I speak Spanish, motherfucker? That's why. It's necessary.

PS: I messed up "en" but it still sounds the same.

Cubans and South Americans do assimilate. Haitians and Puerto-Ricans..eh.

 

[Correll]

Link?

Chicano Nationalism, Revanchism and the Aztlan Myth | Federation for American Immigration Reform
La Raza Facts
Racist Mexican Gangs "Ethnic Cleansing" Blacks In L.A.
‘Brown Pride’: University of California at Los Angeles Gives $100,000 to Racist Group

Those links don’t support your claim.

Your empty denials are weak compared to shit such as this.




6. Former “Race” president Raul Yzaguirre, Hillary Clinton’s Hispanic outreach adviser, said this: “U.S. English is to Hispanics as the Ku Klux Klan is to blacks.” He was referring to U.S. English, the nation’s oldest, largest citizens’ action group dedicated to preserving the unifying role of the English language in the United States. “The Race” also pioneered Orwellian open-borders Newspeak and advised the Mexican government on how to lobby for illegal alien amnesty while avoiding the terms “illegal” and “amnesty.”

Read more at: La Raza Facts

And? Who has denied that la raza is a whacky little fringe extremist group? You seem to want to keep making the same error in logic. The existence of this group is ‘proof’ that every Latino democrat is a member? Does that really sound reasonable to you?

There is a question at the end of the post.

Hillary Clinton and the dems seem to think the group and that school of thought is an excellent choice of outreach.


Voting patterns seem to show that she did NOT lose them with this approach.


"The national exit polls show that Mrs. Clinton drew 65 percent of the Latino vote compared with 29 percent for Mr. Trump. That is a landslide by any measure, and it is about the same margin in the exit polls for 2008 (67 percent vs. 31 percent)."



Here's What Happened with the Latino Vote

 

[Unkotare]

Immigrants today are assimilating just as those before them did.

No, no they're not. ....

They certainly are. If anything, they are assimilating more quickly and completely than those who came before.

Today’s immigrants assimilate faster than the Europeans who came before them

I take it you have never been to South Florida. The immigrants have carved out different areas forthemselves.The haitians have little haiti and north miami, the cubans have little Havanna and Hialeah, the south americans have the Doral area.
God knows where the Porta Rican immigrants will carve out for themselves. These groups all retain their language and culture making little or no effort to learn American traditons and culture.

The 1880s called and asked you to return their irrational fears.

Wrong! That is an everyday reality in South Florida. Why the fuck can I speak Spanish, motherfucker? That's why. It's necessary.

PS: I messed up "en" but it still sounds the same.

Cubans and South Americans do assimilate. Haitians and Puerto-Ricans..eh.

Now, as then...


"For the immigrants in America, Swedish remained the standard language, especially at home and at church, but the settlers soon learned enough English to manage their affairs. Some picked up a fractured combination of English and Swedish, which was derisively called "Swinglish." As the cultural world of Swedish America developed, English words and expressions crept into the community and a distinctive form of American Swedish developed that maintained older linguistic traditions of the Sweden of the 1860s and 1870s. The immigrant community was divided over the question of language, with some urging the retention of Swedish, and others seeking a rapid transition to English. For many older immigrants, especially of the first generation, English remained a very foreign language with which they were not comfortable. Swedish remained the language of the churches and social organizations, but the transition to English was rapid especially among the children of the immigrants. By 1920 English was beginning to replace Swedish in the immigrant community. Bilingual approaches were a temporary measure in many immigrant organizations, in order to meet the needs of both younger and older members of the immigrant community."

Sound familiar?

Read more: Swedish Americans - History, Significant immigration waves, Settlement patterns

 

[Unkotare]

Chicano Nationalism, Revanchism and the Aztlan Myth | Federation for American Immigration Reform
La Raza Facts
Racist Mexican Gangs "Ethnic Cleansing" Blacks In L.A.
‘Brown Pride’: University of California at Los Angeles Gives $100,000 to Racist Group

Those links don’t support your claim.

Your empty denials are weak compared to shit such as this.




6. Former “Race” president Raul Yzaguirre, Hillary Clinton’s Hispanic outreach adviser, said this: “U.S. English is to Hispanics as the Ku Klux Klan is to blacks.” He was referring to U.S. English, the nation’s oldest, largest citizens’ action group dedicated to preserving the unifying role of the English language in the United States. “The Race” also pioneered Orwellian open-borders Newspeak and advised the Mexican government on how to lobby for illegal alien amnesty while avoiding the terms “illegal” and “amnesty.”

Read more at: La Raza Facts

And? Who has denied that la raza is a whacky little fringe extremist group? You seem to want to keep making the same error in logic. The existence of this group is ‘proof’ that every Latino democrat is a member? Does that really sound reasonable to you?

There is a question at the end of the post.

Hillary Clinton and the dems seem to think the group and that school of thought is an excellent choice of outreach.....

Why won't you answer my question?

 

[Unkotare]

Mapping where English is not the language at home

View attachment 169055

 

[Unkotare]

There are 21 counties in America where German is still spoken actively

 

[Marion Morrison]

No, no they're not. ....

They certainly are. If anything, they are assimilating more quickly and completely than those who came before.

Today’s immigrants assimilate faster than the Europeans who came before them

I take it you have never been to South Florida. The immigrants have carved out different areas forthemselves.The haitians have little haiti and north miami, the cubans have little Havanna and Hialeah, the south americans have the Doral area.
God knows where the Porta Rican immigrants will carve out for themselves. These groups all retain their language and culture making little or no effort to learn American traditons and culture.

The 1880s called and asked you to return their irrational fears.

Wrong! That is an everyday reality in South Florida. Why the fuck can I speak Spanish, motherfucker? That's why. It's necessary.

PS: I messed up "en" but it still sounds the same.

Cubans and South Americans do assimilate. Haitians and Puerto-Ricans..eh.

Now, as then...


"For the immigrants in America, Swedish remained the standard language, especially at home and at church, but the settlers soon learned enough English to manage their affairs. Some picked up a fractured combination of English and Swedish, which was derisively called "Swinglish." As the cultural world of Swedish America developed, English words and expressions crept into the community and a distinctive form of American Swedish developed that maintained older linguistic traditions of the Sweden of the 1860s and 1870s. The immigrant community was divided over the question of language, with some urging the retention of Swedish, and others seeking a rapid transition to English. For many older immigrants, especially of the first generation, English remained a very foreign language with which they were not comfortable. Swedish remained the language of the churches and social organizations, but the transition to English was rapid especially among the children of the immigrants. By 1920 English was beginning to replace Swedish in the immigrant community. Bilingual approaches were a temporary measure in many immigrant organizations, in order to meet the needs of both younger and older members of the immigrant community."

Sound familiar?

Read more: Swedish Americans - History, Significant immigration waves, Settlement patterns

Read more- Take your ass to Calle Ocho @ 2AM, get out your car and walk down the street. Let us now how your SJW-ness serves you in that situation. Go to a store, any store in Miami and see what happens.