United Airlines...inspired?

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Were you inspired by the badass tactics of United and the cops to take that dude off the plane? I think it's awesome. An airline that doesn't mess around.

I wonder if this sparks a chain of other airlines adopting their own SWAT units.

In the airline business, the customer isn't right.
 
Were you inspired by the badass tactics of United and the cops to take that dude off the plane?
No.
Here's my question. With United revolutionizing the way we fly, I think they should display the new rules on the plane. Do you agree?
1. If your seat is chosen and you are asked to leave the plane, please do so.
2. If you refuse you receive a verbal warning. You will be told exactly how you will be catching a beating
3. You are instantly tazed
4. You catch a beating
5. You are dragged off the plane

Now, how many passengers do you think would F-k around after seeing that? Zero.
 
Were you inspired by the badass tactics of United and the cops to take that dude off the plane?
No.
Here's my question. With United revolutionizing the way we fly, I think they should display the new rules on the plane. Do you agree?
1. If your seat is chosen and you are asked to leave the plane, please do so.
2. If you refuse you receive a verbal warning. You will be told exactly how you will be catching a beating
3. You are instantly tazed
4. You catch a beating
5. You are dragged off the plane

Now, how many passengers do you think would F-k around after seeing that? Zero.
To the best of my recollection, the DoT rules on overbooking and bumping are noted in the terms and conditions to which every passenger must agree prior to paying for their ticket on a plane. The only instances in which I'm aware of one's not having easy and ready access to those terms is when purchasing a ticket directly from a travel agent, and that only because I've never known an agent to actually offer to or be asked to read them to a customer. (They may read them if one asks. I don't know.) In any case, that information is also published on the DoT's website. Additionally, regulations pertaining to compliance with crew instructions is published on the FAA's website.

One must remember that in the U.S. we operate as much as possible in a free market, and part of that means it's the customer's responsibility to read the "rules of engagement" in any purchase transaction, not the seller's responsibility to "drop them in one's lap," supplemented with pictures and audio for the cognitively compromised. It's like much else in that if one is going to participate in an activity, it's one's responsibility to know the "rules of the road" prior to engaging in the activity.

One's duty to know the way the game is played before engaging is nothing new. We go to class prepared for lectures and tests. We show up at work prepared for what the day may bring. We go shopping prepared to spend money. The list of instances is endless...in law, it's called "ignorantia legis neminem excusat." The fact is that one can participate and be sufficiently/fully prepared, partially prepared, inadequately prepared, or unprepared. One's state of readiness is left to one's discretion, but those of us who are most risk averse will be as fully prepared as is possible to be.

So to directly answer the question you've asked me, yes, I agree people should be told what the rules are; however, as I see it, they have been told. That is to say, the rulemakers have adequately published the rules for all to see and read. If one doesn't bother to find them and read them, well, that and its consequences are one's own problem(s) and nobody else's.
 
Were you inspired by the badass tactics of United and the cops to take that dude off the plane?
No.
Here's my question. With United revolutionizing the way we fly, I think they should display the new rules on the plane. Do you agree?
1. If your seat is chosen and you are asked to leave the plane, please do so.
2. If you refuse you receive a verbal warning. You will be told exactly how you will be catching a beating
3. You are instantly tazed
4. You catch a beating
5. You are dragged off the plane

Now, how many passengers do you think would F-k around after seeing that? Zero.
To the best of my recollection, the DoT rules on overbooking and bumping are noted in the terms and conditions to which every passenger must agree prior to paying for their ticket on a plane. The only instances in which I'm aware of one's not having easy and ready access to those terms is when purchasing a ticket directly from a travel agent, and that only because I've never known an agent to actually offer to or be asked to read them to a customer. (They may read them if one asks. I don't know.) In any case, that information is also published on the DoT's website. Additionally, regulations pertaining to compliance with crew instructions is published on the FAA's website.

One must remember that in the U.S. we operate as much as possible in a free market, and part of that means it's the customer's responsibility to read the "rules of engagement" in any purchase transaction, not the seller's responsibility to "drop them in one's lap," supplemented with pictures and audio for the cognitively compromised. It's like much else in that if one is going to participate in an activity, it's one's responsibility to know the "rules of the road" prior to engaging in the activity.

One's duty to know the way the game is played before engaging is nothing new. We go to class prepared for lectures and tests. We show up at work prepared for what the day may bring. We go shopping prepared to spend money. The list of instances is endless...in law, it's called "ignorantia legis neminem excusat." The fact is that one can participate and be sufficiently/fully prepared, partially prepared, inadequately prepared, or unprepared. One's state of readiness is left to one's discretion, but those of us who are most risk averse will be as fully prepared as is possible to be.

So to directly answer the question you've asked me, yes, I agree people should be told what the rules are; however, as I see it, they have been told.
Totally on the same page. It's why I agree with their new 'take a beating' policy. Now, only the true travelers will fly United because they know they will obey the rules.
 
Were you inspired by the badass tactics of United and the cops to take that dude off the plane?
No.
Here's my question. With United revolutionizing the way we fly, I think they should display the new rules on the plane. Do you agree?
1. If your seat is chosen and you are asked to leave the plane, please do so.
2. If you refuse you receive a verbal warning. You will be told exactly how you will be catching a beating
3. You are instantly tazed
4. You catch a beating
5. You are dragged off the plane

Now, how many passengers do you think would F-k around after seeing that? Zero.
To the best of my recollection, the DoT rules on overbooking and bumping are noted in the terms and conditions to which every passenger must agree prior to paying for their ticket on a plane. The only instances in which I'm aware of one's not having easy and ready access to those terms is when purchasing a ticket directly from a travel agent, and that only because I've never known an agent to actually offer to or be asked to read them to a customer. (They may read them if one asks. I don't know.) In any case, that information is also published on the DoT's website. Additionally, regulations pertaining to compliance with crew instructions is published on the FAA's website.

One must remember that in the U.S. we operate as much as possible in a free market, and part of that means it's the customer's responsibility to read the "rules of engagement" in any purchase transaction, not the seller's responsibility to "drop them in one's lap," supplemented with pictures and audio for the cognitively compromised. It's like much else in that if one is going to participate in an activity, it's one's responsibility to know the "rules of the road" prior to engaging in the activity.

One's duty to know the way the game is played before engaging is nothing new. We go to class prepared for lectures and tests. We show up at work prepared for what the day may bring. We go shopping prepared to spend money. The list of instances is endless...in law, it's called "ignorantia legis neminem excusat." The fact is that one can participate and be sufficiently/fully prepared, partially prepared, inadequately prepared, or unprepared. One's state of readiness is left to one's discretion, but those of us who are most risk averse will be as fully prepared as is possible to be.

So to directly answer the question you've asked me, yes, I agree people should be told what the rules are; however, as I see it, they have been told.
Totally on the same page. It's why I agree with their new 'take a beating' policy. Now, only the true travelers will fly United because they know they will obey the rules.
OT:
I have to be honest...the people I know who travel the most don't care about what United or any commercial airline does. I used to be among the workers who traveled a lot and once my job got that "busy," like many of my fellow really heavy travelers, I spent far more time on charter flights than on commercial ones. One pretty much has no choice these days as commercial air travel in only the most limited situations works well enough to allow one to attend meetings in three cities in one day (unless one can reliably hold meetings in airports, which I briefly tried doing with my staff).

I seem to recall some airports trying to implement "frequent flyer" security lines. I don't know how well that worked. I know it didn't work as well as being dropped off at general aviation, walking to the plane, sitting down and being in the air ten minutes later.
 
Were you inspired by the badass tactics of United and the cops to take that dude off the plane?
No.
Here's my question. With United revolutionizing the way we fly, I think they should display the new rules on the plane. Do you agree?
1. If your seat is chosen and you are asked to leave the plane, please do so.
2. If you refuse you receive a verbal warning. You will be told exactly how you will be catching a beating
3. You are instantly tazed
4. You catch a beating
5. You are dragged off the plane

Now, how many passengers do you think would F-k around after seeing that? Zero.
To the best of my recollection, the DoT rules on overbooking and bumping are noted in the terms and conditions to which every passenger must agree prior to paying for their ticket on a plane. The only instances in which I'm aware of one's not having easy and ready access to those terms is when purchasing a ticket directly from a travel agent, and that only because I've never known an agent to actually offer to or be asked to read them to a customer. (They may read them if one asks. I don't know.) In any case, that information is also published on the DoT's website. Additionally, regulations pertaining to compliance with crew instructions is published on the FAA's website.

One must remember that in the U.S. we operate as much as possible in a free market, and part of that means it's the customer's responsibility to read the "rules of engagement" in any purchase transaction, not the seller's responsibility to "drop them in one's lap," supplemented with pictures and audio for the cognitively compromised. It's like much else in that if one is going to participate in an activity, it's one's responsibility to know the "rules of the road" prior to engaging in the activity.

One's duty to know the way the game is played before engaging is nothing new. We go to class prepared for lectures and tests. We show up at work prepared for what the day may bring. We go shopping prepared to spend money. The list of instances is endless...in law, it's called "ignorantia legis neminem excusat." The fact is that one can participate and be sufficiently/fully prepared, partially prepared, inadequately prepared, or unprepared. One's state of readiness is left to one's discretion, but those of us who are most risk averse will be as fully prepared as is possible to be.

So to directly answer the question you've asked me, yes, I agree people should be told what the rules are; however, as I see it, they have been told.
Totally on the same page. It's why I agree with their new 'take a beating' policy. Now, only the true travelers will fly United because they know they will obey the rules.
OT:
I have to be honest...the people I know who travel the most don't care about what United or any commercial airline does. I used to be among the workers who traveled a lot and once my job got that "busy," like many of my fellow really heavy travelers, I spent far more time on charter flights than on commercial ones. One pretty much has no choice these days as commercial air travel in only the most limited situations works well enough to allow one to attend meetings in three cities in one day (unless one can reliably hold meetings in airports, which I briefly tried doing with my staff).

I seem to recall some airports trying to implement "frequent flyer" security lines. I don't know how well that worked. I know it didn't work as well as being dropped off at general aviation, walking to the plane, sitting down and being in the air ten minutes later.

The new Beat Down policy by United will form a special set of travelers. People won't take their time boarding the plane. People won't complain on board. People will be regimented because they don't want to catch a beat down.
 
Were you inspired by the badass tactics of United and the cops to take that dude off the plane?
No.
Here's my question. With United revolutionizing the way we fly, I think they should display the new rules on the plane. Do you agree?
1. If your seat is chosen and you are asked to leave the plane, please do so.
2. If you refuse you receive a verbal warning. You will be told exactly how you will be catching a beating
3. You are instantly tazed
4. You catch a beating
5. You are dragged off the plane

Now, how many passengers do you think would F-k around after seeing that? Zero.
how many passengers do you think would F-k around after seeing that?

I don't know what has ever led individuals to think that when they get on a plane they should "F-k around" I mean really. You get on a commercial plane and people in uniforms tell you what to do. They want to get the plane safely and on time from point A to B, which is basically all anyone on the plane should want. If they say one must do something, then friggin' do it. It's not as though they are instructing "such and such" for personal reasons.
 
The new Beat Down policy by United will form a special set of travelers.
I don't know a thing about the existence of anything called a "Beat Down" policy. I'm shocked United has a policy by that name. I'm taking your word for it that they do, and I'm not checking because I don't care what policy United implements for they aren't going to have issues with me, nor I with them and their crews and planes.
 
The new Beat Down policy by United will form a special set of travelers.
I don't know a thing about the existence of anything called a "Beat Down" policy. I'm shocked United has a policy by that name. I'm taking your word for it that they do, and I'm not checking because I don't care what policy United implements for they aren't going to have issues with me, nor I with them and their crews and planes.
You're the perfect passenger. Much respect to you.

Unfortunately there are people like that fake doctor who want to waste our time by refusing to get up. Everyone else has places to be. We don't have time for his nonsense. This new Beat Down method by United shows the public that it won't be tolerated and they WILL get us to our destination on time.
 
Were you inspired by the badass tactics of United and the cops to take that dude off the plane? I think it's awesome. An airline that doesn't mess around.

I wonder if this sparks a chain of other airlines adopting their own SWAT units.

In the airline business, the customer isn't right.


Only fearful, impotent little "man" would be inspired by the violent and illegal assault of an innocent person.

Sounds like it's time for a viagra scrip for you.


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The new Beat Down policy by United will form a special set of travelers.
I don't know a thing about the existence of anything called a "Beat Down" policy. I'm shocked United has a policy by that name. I'm taking your word for it that they do, and I'm not checking because I don't care what policy United implements for they aren't going to have issues with me, nor I with them and their crews and planes.


He's lying about United having a "beat down policy" just as he's lying about the not being a doctor.

If this had been done to the OP, he'd still be sobbing.




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Were you inspired by the badass tactics of United and the cops to take that dude off the plane? I think it's awesome. An airline that doesn't mess around.

I wonder if this sparks a chain of other airlines adopting their own SWAT units.

In the airline business, the customer isn't right.


Only fearful, impotent little "man" would be inspired by the violent and illegal assault of an innocent person.

Sounds like it's time for a viagra scrip for you.


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How would someone be "fearful" and "little" if they want people thrown off an air plane? Just wondering how people would come to that conclusion. The new Beat Down policy ensures YOU get to where you need to go, on time. You're welcome
 

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