Undocumented Immigrants Flock To Get Driver's Licenses Under New California Law

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California Department of Motor Vehicles locations, often the bane of a driver’s existence, will be exciting places for more than 1 million Californians next month.

Effective Jan. 2, undocumented immigrants in the state will be able to obtain driver’s licenses and car insurance for the first time, following a decades-long push by the state legislature’s Latino caucus to address problems caused by so many unlicensed, uninsured motorists.

"While undocumented immigrants form the backbone of many key industries in California, exclusion from the ability to apply for a license has meant a simple trip to work or school can easily morph into a nightmare," Jon Rodney, a spokesman for the California Immigrant Policy Center, told The Huffington Post. "Folks have faced discriminatory car impounds, costing working families untold thousands of dollars, and even arrests."

With more than 33,000 traffic fatalities recorded in the U.S. in 2012, state officials said it’s vital to prioritize road safety over policing immigrants.

“It has nothing to do with if they’re in the country legally or illegally,” Julie Powell, a spokeswoman for the California Highway Patrol, told The Sacramento Bee. “Our main concern is that the people of California are safe, and one way to assist in accomplishing that mission is to make sure California drivers are tested, trained and insured.”

Undocumented Immigrants Flock To Get Driver s Licenses Under New California Law

First, I do not really understand how this measure is supposed to reduce the number of car accidents and traffic fatalities. Are the officials going to teach the immigrants to drive? If not, are they going just to issue more licenses?

And second, using these licenses, will the immigrants be able to vote?
 
California Department of Motor Vehicles locations, often the bane of a driver’s existence, will be exciting places for more than 1 million Californians next month.

Effective Jan. 2, undocumented immigrants in the state will be able to obtain driver’s licenses and car insurance for the first time, following a decades-long push by the state legislature’s Latino caucus to address problems caused by so many unlicensed, uninsured motorists.

"While undocumented immigrants form the backbone of many key industries in California, exclusion from the ability to apply for a license has meant a simple trip to work or school can easily morph into a nightmare," Jon Rodney, a spokesman for the California Immigrant Policy Center, told The Huffington Post. "Folks have faced discriminatory car impounds, costing working families untold thousands of dollars, and even arrests."

With more than 33,000 traffic fatalities recorded in the U.S. in 2012, state officials said it’s vital to prioritize road safety over policing immigrants.

“It has nothing to do with if they’re in the country legally or illegally,” Julie Powell, a spokeswoman for the California Highway Patrol, told The Sacramento Bee. “Our main concern is that the people of California are safe, and one way to assist in accomplishing that mission is to make sure California drivers are tested, trained and insured.”

Undocumented Immigrants Flock To Get Driver s Licenses Under New California Law

First, I do not really understand how this measure is supposed to reduce the number of car accidents and traffic fatalities. Are the officials going to teach the immigrants to drive? If not, are they going just to issue more licenses?

And second, using these licenses, will the immigrants be able to vote?

Why do you think this is stupid? I mean now we have all of their addresses, Send in the drones.


Seriously though, no they won't be able to vote, no different than having ID doesn't allow minors to drink.
 
California Department of Motor Vehicles locations, often the bane of a driver’s existence, will be exciting places for more than 1 million Californians next month.

Effective Jan. 2, undocumented immigrants in the state will be able to obtain driver’s licenses and car insurance for the first time, following a decades-long push by the state legislature’s Latino caucus to address problems caused by so many unlicensed, uninsured motorists.

"While undocumented immigrants form the backbone of many key industries in California, exclusion from the ability to apply for a license has meant a simple trip to work or school can easily morph into a nightmare," Jon Rodney, a spokesman for the California Immigrant Policy Center, told The Huffington Post. "Folks have faced discriminatory car impounds, costing working families untold thousands of dollars, and even arrests."

With more than 33,000 traffic fatalities recorded in the U.S. in 2012, state officials said it’s vital to prioritize road safety over policing immigrants.

“It has nothing to do with if they’re in the country legally or illegally,” Julie Powell, a spokeswoman for the California Highway Patrol, told The Sacramento Bee. “Our main concern is that the people of California are safe, and one way to assist in accomplishing that mission is to make sure California drivers are tested, trained and insured.”

Undocumented Immigrants Flock To Get Driver s Licenses Under New California Law

First, I do not really understand how this measure is supposed to reduce the number of car accidents and traffic fatalities. Are the officials going to teach the immigrants to drive? If not, are they going just to issue more licenses?

And second, using these licenses, will the immigrants be able to vote?
it doesnt reduce nothing.....but they have to prove they have ins if they own a car.....so if they run into you they are covered....unlike before......and it says on the license not for Federal purposes.... so they cant register to vote......from the DMV.....
Customers applying for an original driver license will need to do the following:
  • Study for the driver license exam
  • Complete a driver license application form (DL 44) available at the DMV office
  • Under AB 60, applicants will need to provide DMV with:
  • Pass a vision test, TouchScreen knowledge (written) test, and if applicable, a road sign test
  • Give a thumb print
  • Have a picture taken
  • Schedule a future appointment for the behind-the-wheel driving test
Applicants under 18 applying for an original driver license will also need to submit proof of driver education completion.
 
California Department of Motor Vehicles locations, often the bane of a driver’s existence, will be exciting places for more than 1 million Californians next month.

Effective Jan. 2, undocumented immigrants in the state will be able to obtain driver’s licenses and car insurance for the first time, following a decades-long push by the state legislature’s Latino caucus to address problems caused by so many unlicensed, uninsured motorists.

"While undocumented immigrants form the backbone of many key industries in California, exclusion from the ability to apply for a license has meant a simple trip to work or school can easily morph into a nightmare," Jon Rodney, a spokesman for the California Immigrant Policy Center, told The Huffington Post. "Folks have faced discriminatory car impounds, costing working families untold thousands of dollars, and even arrests."

With more than 33,000 traffic fatalities recorded in the U.S. in 2012, state officials said it’s vital to prioritize road safety over policing immigrants.

“It has nothing to do with if they’re in the country legally or illegally,” Julie Powell, a spokeswoman for the California Highway Patrol, told The Sacramento Bee. “Our main concern is that the people of California are safe, and one way to assist in accomplishing that mission is to make sure California drivers are tested, trained and insured.”

Undocumented Immigrants Flock To Get Driver s Licenses Under New California Law

First, I do not really understand how this measure is supposed to reduce the number of car accidents and traffic fatalities. Are the officials going to teach the immigrants to drive? If not, are they going just to issue more licenses?

And second, using these licenses, will the immigrants be able to vote?
it doesnt reduce nothing.....but they have to prove they have ins if they own a car.....so if they run into you they are covered....unlike before......and it says on the license not for Federal purposes.... so they cant register to vote......from the DMV.....
Customers applying for an original driver license will need to do the following:
  • Study for the driver license exam
  • Complete a driver license application form (DL 44) available at the DMV office
  • Under AB 60, applicants will need to provide DMV with:
  • Pass a vision test, TouchScreen knowledge (written) test, and if applicable, a road sign test
  • Give a thumb print
  • Have a picture taken
  • Schedule a future appointment for the behind-the-wheel driving test
Applicants under 18 applying for an original driver license will also need to submit proof of driver education completion.

Just stop, rubes on either side don't actually want facts.
 
California Department of Motor Vehicles locations, often the bane of a driver’s existence, will be exciting places for more than 1 million Californians next month.

Effective Jan. 2, undocumented immigrants in the state will be able to obtain driver’s licenses and car insurance for the first time, following a decades-long push by the state legislature’s Latino caucus to address problems caused by so many unlicensed, uninsured motorists.

"While undocumented immigrants form the backbone of many key industries in California, exclusion from the ability to apply for a license has meant a simple trip to work or school can easily morph into a nightmare," Jon Rodney, a spokesman for the California Immigrant Policy Center, told The Huffington Post. "Folks have faced discriminatory car impounds, costing working families untold thousands of dollars, and even arrests."

With more than 33,000 traffic fatalities recorded in the U.S. in 2012, state officials said it’s vital to prioritize road safety over policing immigrants.

“It has nothing to do with if they’re in the country legally or illegally,” Julie Powell, a spokeswoman for the California Highway Patrol, told The Sacramento Bee. “Our main concern is that the people of California are safe, and one way to assist in accomplishing that mission is to make sure California drivers are tested, trained and insured.”

Undocumented Immigrants Flock To Get Driver s Licenses Under New California Law

First, I do not really understand how this measure is supposed to reduce the number of car accidents and traffic fatalities. Are the officials going to teach the immigrants to drive? If not, are they going just to issue more licenses?

And second, using these licenses, will the immigrants be able to vote?
it doesnt reduce nothing.....but they have to prove they have ins if they own a car.....so if they run into you they are covered....unlike before......and it says on the license not for Federal purposes.... so they cant register to vote......from the DMV.....
Customers applying for an original driver license will need to do the following:
  • Study for the driver license exam
  • Complete a driver license application form (DL 44) available at the DMV office
  • Under AB 60, applicants will need to provide DMV with:
  • Pass a vision test, TouchScreen knowledge (written) test, and if applicable, a road sign test
  • Give a thumb print
  • Have a picture taken
  • Schedule a future appointment for the behind-the-wheel driving test
Applicants under 18 applying for an original driver license will also need to submit proof of driver education completion.
So I take it you are now for voter ID? As it should be.
 
Undocumented Immigrants has as much right to be in this country as the pilgrims did.

Correct

None

So, we should do as the indians tried to do to us, and kick their asses out.

Are you saying that the Europeans did not have the right to take this country from
it's indigenous people?

That's relative.

First, did it belong to the "indigenous?"
Second, we purchased most of the land called the USA
Third, since the history books are always written by the winners, too bad for the injuns.
 
California Department of Motor Vehicles locations, often the bane of a driver’s existence, will be exciting places for more than 1 million Californians next month.

Effective Jan. 2, undocumented immigrants in the state will be able to obtain driver’s licenses and car insurance for the first time, following a decades-long push by the state legislature’s Latino caucus to address problems caused by so many unlicensed, uninsured motorists.

"While undocumented immigrants form the backbone of many key industries in California, exclusion from the ability to apply for a license has meant a simple trip to work or school can easily morph into a nightmare," Jon Rodney, a spokesman for the California Immigrant Policy Center, told The Huffington Post. "Folks have faced discriminatory car impounds, costing working families untold thousands of dollars, and even arrests."

With more than 33,000 traffic fatalities recorded in the U.S. in 2012, state officials said it’s vital to prioritize road safety over policing immigrants.

“It has nothing to do with if they’re in the country legally or illegally,” Julie Powell, a spokeswoman for the California Highway Patrol, told The Sacramento Bee. “Our main concern is that the people of California are safe, and one way to assist in accomplishing that mission is to make sure California drivers are tested, trained and insured.”

Undocumented Immigrants Flock To Get Driver s Licenses Under New California Law

First, I do not really understand how this measure is supposed to reduce the number of car accidents and traffic fatalities. Are the officials going to teach the immigrants to drive? If not, are they going just to issue more licenses?

And second, using these licenses, will the immigrants be able to vote?

1. Yes, they'll have to take a driver's test and get insurance.

2. No. We don't need ID to vote in CA, anyway.
 
If it not belong to the "indigenous" then I guess your home and it's
belonging don't belong to you. Somebody stronger wants them somebody
stronger should have them.

"most of the land" OK, do we give back 100% of the land that was not purchased?
 
California Department of Motor Vehicles locations, often the bane of a driver’s existence, will be exciting places for more than 1 million Californians next month.

Effective Jan. 2, undocumented immigrants in the state will be able to obtain driver’s licenses and car insurance for the first time, following a decades-long push by the state legislature’s Latino caucus to address problems caused by so many unlicensed, uninsured motorists.

"While undocumented immigrants form the backbone of many key industries in California, exclusion from the ability to apply for a license has meant a simple trip to work or school can easily morph into a nightmare," Jon Rodney, a spokesman for the California Immigrant Policy Center, told The Huffington Post. "Folks have faced discriminatory car impounds, costing working families untold thousands of dollars, and even arrests."

With more than 33,000 traffic fatalities recorded in the U.S. in 2012, state officials said it’s vital to prioritize road safety over policing immigrants.

“It has nothing to do with if they’re in the country legally or illegally,” Julie Powell, a spokeswoman for the California Highway Patrol, told The Sacramento Bee. “Our main concern is that the people of California are safe, and one way to assist in accomplishing that mission is to make sure California drivers are tested, trained and insured.”

Undocumented Immigrants Flock To Get Driver s Licenses Under New California Law

First, I do not really understand how this measure is supposed to reduce the number of car accidents and traffic fatalities. Are the officials going to teach the immigrants to drive? If not, are they going just to issue more licenses?

And second, using these licenses, will the immigrants be able to vote?
it doesnt reduce nothing.....but they have to prove they have ins if they own a car.....so if they run into you they are covered....unlike before......and it says on the license not for Federal purposes.... so they cant register to vote......from the DMV.....
Customers applying for an original driver license will need to do the following:
  • Study for the driver license exam
  • Complete a driver license application form (DL 44) available at the DMV office
  • Under AB 60, applicants will need to provide DMV with:
  • Pass a vision test, TouchScreen knowledge (written) test, and if applicable, a road sign test
  • Give a thumb print
  • Have a picture taken
  • Schedule a future appointment for the behind-the-wheel driving test
Applicants under 18 applying for an original driver license will also need to submit proof of driver education completion.
So I take it you are now for voter ID? As it should be.
i am now for?.....was i ever against it?....
 
California Department of Motor Vehicles locations, often the bane of a driver’s existence, will be exciting places for more than 1 million Californians next month.

Effective Jan. 2, undocumented immigrants in the state will be able to obtain driver’s licenses and car insurance for the first time, following a decades-long push by the state legislature’s Latino caucus to address problems caused by so many unlicensed, uninsured motorists.

"While undocumented immigrants form the backbone of many key industries in California, exclusion from the ability to apply for a license has meant a simple trip to work or school can easily morph into a nightmare," Jon Rodney, a spokesman for the California Immigrant Policy Center, told The Huffington Post. "Folks have faced discriminatory car impounds, costing working families untold thousands of dollars, and even arrests."

With more than 33,000 traffic fatalities recorded in the U.S. in 2012, state officials said it’s vital to prioritize road safety over policing immigrants.

“It has nothing to do with if they’re in the country legally or illegally,” Julie Powell, a spokeswoman for the California Highway Patrol, told The Sacramento Bee. “Our main concern is that the people of California are safe, and one way to assist in accomplishing that mission is to make sure California drivers are tested, trained and insured.”

Undocumented Immigrants Flock To Get Driver s Licenses Under New California Law

First, I do not really understand how this measure is supposed to reduce the number of car accidents and traffic fatalities. Are the officials going to teach the immigrants to drive? If not, are they going just to issue more licenses?

And second, using these licenses, will the immigrants be able to vote?
it doesnt reduce nothing.....but they have to prove they have ins if they own a car.....so if they run into you they are covered....unlike before......and it says on the license not for Federal purposes.... so they cant register to vote......from the DMV.....
Customers applying for an original driver license will need to do the following:
  • Study for the driver license exam
  • Complete a driver license application form (DL 44) available at the DMV office
  • Under AB 60, applicants will need to provide DMV with:
  • Pass a vision test, TouchScreen knowledge (written) test, and if applicable, a road sign test
  • Give a thumb print
  • Have a picture taken
  • Schedule a future appointment for the behind-the-wheel driving test
Applicants under 18 applying for an original driver license will also need to submit proof of driver education completion.
So I take it you are now for voter ID? As it should be.
i am now for?.....was i ever against it?....


If a random message board poster says you were, you must have been
 
Undocumented Immigrants has as much right to be in this country as the pilgrims did.

Actually they do not have that right, it is against federal laws. I think it is funny how this admin can say law of the land as it applies to affordable care act, but fail to enforce laws they do not like. Anyway what can you do? Obama was correct it is not feasible to send all illegal immigrants back. And as for securing the border? I don't think they can fully secure it, too big, too much money and corruption with the drug cartels. One way perhaps is if all congress and the whitehouse was moved to the border. I think they would have to secure it. I don't think they would put up with the constant stream across the border into their property. Lol. But that won't happen.
 
Undocumented Immigrants has as much right to be in this country as the pilgrims did.

Actually they do not have that right, it is against federal laws. I think it is funny how this admin can say law of the land as it applies to affordable care act, but fail to enforce laws they do not like. Anyway what can you do? Obama was correct it is not feasible to send all illegal immigrants back. And as for securing the border? I don't think they can fully secure it, too big, too much money and corruption with the drug cartels. One way perhaps is if all congress and the whitehouse was moved to the border. I think they would have to secure it. I don't think they would put up with the constant stream across the border into their property. Lol. But that won't happen.


The solution is rather simple of course.

$100K fine per instance of employing an illegal.

NO ONE is going to risk that, no jobs and they self deport.
 
Giving them driver's licenses won't help. They will get tickets, drive drunk and run from accidents just like always. Take their driver's licenses and they will drive without them just like always.
 
Undocumented Immigrants has as much right to be in this country as the pilgrims did.

Actually they do not have that right, it is against federal laws. I think it is funny how this admin can say law of the land as it applies to affordable care act, but fail to enforce laws they do not like. Anyway what can you do? Obama was correct it is not feasible to send all illegal immigrants back. And as for securing the border? I don't think they can fully secure it, too big, too much money and corruption with the drug cartels. One way perhaps is if all congress and the whitehouse was moved to the border. I think they would have to secure it. I don't think they would put up with the constant stream across the border into their property. Lol. But that won't happen.


The solution is rather simple of course.

$100K fine per instance of employing an illegal.

NO ONE is going to risk that, no jobs and they self deport.
Lol perhaps but the companies that hire them, are the ones making the laws through donations and special interest groups, they do have laws against hiring them as well and they are fined but again who is going to enforce it when the politicians need the money and the wealthy business have a back door to the politicians on which laws are made and what is enforced lol.
 
Allowing undocumented immigrants to apply for a driver's license is perfectly appropriate and comports with 14th Amendment jurisprudence, where one is not guilty of a crime until his guilt has been determined in a court of law. That one is undocumented does not necessarily mean he is 'illegal,' nor does it warrant denying him due process or equal protection of the law.

Moreover, the notion that this policy will 'encourage' more 'illegal' immigration is ignorant, unfounded, and fails as a post hoc fallacy.
 

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