TheStripey1
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Nope, kill them all or let them live to a certain age, then soylent green them. Should solve lots of problems.
Why 60? Why not... say... how old are YOU? Why not that age? It'll do wonders for over population.
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Nope, kill them all or let them live to a certain age, then soylent green them. Should solve lots of problems.
Are you a brit, kathianne?
If you allow smoking in your bar, then I will NOT be a patron of it. If you want to smoke yourself to death, I frankly don't give a damn. It is YOUR choice. So how is that trying to regulate your behavior? Go for it. Smoke yourself into an early grave.
No fur off my muzzle.
IF the hospital wants to put restrictions on who they choose to operate on, it is their choice. If you don't like it, feel free to find another hospital.
treating the illness of a smoker is preferential treatment?
If you allow smoking in your bar, then I will NOT be a patron of it. If you want to smoke yourself to death, I frankly don't give a damn. It is YOUR choice. So how is that trying to regulate your behavior? Go for it. Smoke yourself into an early grave.
No fur off my muzzle.
IF the hospital wants to put restrictions on who they choose to operate on, it is their choice. If you don't like it, feel free to find another hospital.
Why is that relevant?
because RGS, rsr's thread opener is about medical care in ENGLAND... didn't you bother to read it?
if the hospital says quit smoking for 30 days prior to the operation and the tobacco addict can't do it then going through with the operation IS preferential treatment... IMO...
why should the hospital waste it's time and resources on someone who refuses to help themselves?
There are far too many patients who want treatment and are willing to give up this or that in order to get it. Those that aren't willing, should be free to find another insurance carrier, medical facility or country.
and you make my own point. Owners of property/establishments should set their own standards. Those that disagree, will opt not to patronize.
I'm in Illinois, in January the state will be 'smoke free' regarding public areas, including restaurants and bars. We are already transitioning to our homes, so our smoking friends are comfortable. Our favorite meeting place is concerned, we drop about $100 bucks per week. We have offered to allow their servers to come to our homes and join us. No tips of course.
im sure to a pink lunger ANYTHING that can fuck with a smoker is well within the realms of their opinon of preferential treatment.
again, are those going for tripple bypass surgeries told to lose weight or no operation?
no?
ok then.
I assure you that diabetes patients arent restricted from health care because they ate a candy bar a week before their operation. However, it seems to be fine to fuck with smokers these days.
Again, youd scream if doctor christians refused to treat gay people because of THEIR opinions about homosexuality... figure out why they would be just as wrong as you are.
I assure you that all the bar owners under the heel of recent pink lunger legislation would GLADLY let you choose another bar rather than go out of business thanks to a smoking ban.. indeed, no skin off of my nuts either.
you hate smoke.. some hate sugar. others hate fat. yay.
again, if you can judge then prepare to be judged since im SURE you dont live like the model of health according to someone elses opinion.
I do smoke.
and my city just passed a smoking ban in bars.
and, as of 2007, 6 locations paid the price for the vote of a city council and had to close their doors since their MARKET left to find a business that will cater to their smoking needs.
This is one issue that makes me as leary of the left as I am of the right.
you can take your self righteous pink lunger opinion with you when you go find yourself a non smoking bar to hang out at instead of having to poke your opinion on a legal substance into everyones business.
there is an aspect of 'big brother' here, I will admit, but my guess is that smokers who wish to pay for operations out of pocket would get treated in a timely fashion.
If taxpayers are paying the freight, some risk management assumptions are appropriate to be made.
I doubt that anyone would think twice if a 90 year old patient were turned down by their insurance company for a heart transplant....a similar assumption.
So, any thread about, say the US, should we only listen to Americans? You can not see the relevance of british health care and the insistance by some in the US we should have a similar system?
Shall I from now on ask anyone I suspect of not being a US citizen or alien living in the US the question " are you an American" in every thread about the US?
how far do you want to let people take that rationalization?
'cause i garentee that gays and birth control would be the first to get nixed due to the OPINIONS of others with a personal bone to pick.
Bar owners here have NOT gone out of business because their tobacco addicts were forced to smoke elsewhere. Their business for the most part has INCREASED because there are more NONsmokers than smokers... think about it... it might do your bottom line some good... or you can continue to smoke... I don't care... as I won't be going to your bar anyway.
It's the medical community in ENGLAND that is setting the standards we are discussing. If that's what they want, then that's their choice. Should you be a brit and want care in their facilities, you will do as they ask or you can find another establishment that will cater to you. It's YOUR choice. Either quit smoking for a month and get treated or find another medical facility. Simple.
im sure to a pink lunger ANYTHING that can fuck with a smoker is well within the realms of their opinon of preferential treatment.
again, are those going for tripple bypass surgeries told to lose weight or no operation?
no?
ok then.
I assure you that diabetes patients arent restricted from health care because they ate a candy bar a week before their operation. However, it seems to be fine to fuck with smokers these days.
Again, youd scream if doctor christians refused to treat gay people because of THEIR opinions about homosexuality... figure out why they would be just as wrong as you are.