Turning Natural Gas Into Water

[RGR]

Scott Cline addresses more of Deborah Rogers' spin:

Where Is That Natural Gas Treadmill? | Energy In Depth – Northeast Marcellus Initiative

Why are you pimping the Marcellus so hard?

 

[RGR]

Dr. Scott Cline has been attending Deborah Rogers' presentations on her tour of upstate New York. He has assembled a complete evaluation of her remarks, which will be appear in a multi-part series entitled "Mother of All Spin" on the EID-Marcellus blog. Check out Part I of the series here (Part II will appear tomorrow, etc.):

Natural Gas Critic Refuses to See What's Before Her Eyes | Energy In Depth – Northeast Marcellus Initiative

Great stuff!

What part of a run of the mill shale gas development plan do you think is "great stuff"? And why?

The Marcellus a reasonable amount of natural gas. Cool. I'll take a Norphlet well any day of the week over any 50 Marcellus wells. Do you even understand why, or are you pimping indiscriminately?

 

[RGR]

Couldn't agree more with that last coment. Renewables are outstanding but are stuck at 2% and will be for decades to come because they require 100X the subsidies of gas, are intermittent and only produce about 25% of their capacity. They are a great supplement but cannot replace fossil fuels. Let's get real here!

Some of us are. Which is why we use solar panels, buy into windmill power, drive EVs, bicycle when we can, and prefer natural gas fired power to, say, coal? Or we like nukes over anything fossil fuelish.

Why your fascination with a relatively small source of natural gas like the Marcellus? Jobs for friends? You are from Pennsylvania perhaps? Leasing mineral rights? What?

 

[Mr.Green]

Excellent article. I'm glad Republicans have the right solution to the gas situation. More offshore drilling, drilling shale deposits in the rockies, and building the Alaska naturL gas pipeline. I'm not opposed to any kind of alternative energy source, but they're simply not practical enough, and wont be for ages. Liberals need to realize the only way to lower gas prices is DRILL BABY DRILL!

 

[RGR]

Scott Cline ties it all together with Part IV in his "Mother of All Spin" series on Deborah Rogers:

Deborah Rogers: Mother of All Natural Gas Spin | Energy In Depth – Northeast Marcellus Initiative

and you keep harping on the Marcellus...why?

 

[RGR]

The natural gas industry is doing great things to improve the lives of young Pennsylvanians:

20+Ton Textbook Gifted to Lackawanna College by Natural Gas Industry | Energy In Depth – Northeast Marcellus Initiative

Yup. They drilled up so much natural gas that the price crashed and the rigs are now moving to Ohio. Good job Pennsylvania!

 

[RGR]

That Franklin Forks water well problem looks a lot more like a flooding and mechanical issue than a natural gas one.

Franklin Forks Facts | Energy In Depth – Northeast Marcellus Initiative

Do you actually KNOW anything about this topic, or just pimp the blogs of others?

 

[Mr. H.]

The natural gas industry is doing great things to improve the lives of young Pennsylvanians:

20+Ton Textbook Gifted to Lackawanna College by Natural Gas Industry | Energy In Depth – Northeast Marcellus Initiative

I was going to say it wasn't for lack a wanna but...

Hey RGR- what's so special about Ohio?

Liquid hydrocarbs? Shirley not more nat gas.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

The natural gas industry is doing great things to improve the lives of young Pennsylvanians:

20+Ton Textbook Gifted to Lackawanna College by Natural Gas Industry | Energy In Depth – Northeast Marcellus Initiative

Wrong.



They're doing great things to ensure they have an educated workforce.


You are confusing the virtue of long range foresight with the virtue of charitable giving.


Don't get me wrong. I think its great when a company has good long range planning skills and as a result, others benefit

If I'm a student that gets to learn with this thing, when I graduate, I'm thinking maybe I'd like to work for Exterran, the company that donated it. Exterran then gets more applicants for their job openings and can hence pick the best from a larger pool of applicants and the end result is higher PROFIT.

 

[waltky]

Obama needs to open up some more oil leases...

Number of New Oil Wells and New Leases Have Decreased Under Obama, Data from BLM Show
April 5, 2012 – Since President Obama took office, both the number of new drilling operations started on federal lands and the number of new leases for oil operations on federal lands has decreased, Bureau of Land Management (BLM) data show.

In fiscal year 2008, the last official year of the President George W. Bush’s administration, 5,044 new oil wells were started, meaning that actual drilling began, which is what oil firms refer to as “spudding in” or to “spud” a well bore. In FY 2009, however, in Obama’s first year as president, there were 3,267 wells spudded, a decline of 1,777. Fiscal year 2008 was from October 2007 through September 2008; fiscal year 2009 was from October 2008 through September 2009. President Bush’s last year in office ended on Jan. 20, 2009, when Barack Obama was inaugurated.

In addition, the Obama administration spudded 3,166 new wells in fiscal year 2010 and 3,260 in FY 2011, according to the Bureau of Land Management. That’s still less than the number of wells spudded, per year, under Bush in 2008, as well as the number in 2007 – 5,343 wells – and in 2006 – 4,708 wells. The number of new oil drilling leases also declined under Obama, according to the Bureau of Land Management. In FY 2008, there were 2,416 leases issued for operations on federal lands.

In FY 2009, however, the number of new leases issued fell to 2,072, according to the Bureau of Land Management. In FY 2010, the number was lower still at 1,308; and in FY 2011, the number was 2,188. In every year of the Obama administration, the number of new leases issued was lower than in Bush’s last year. The data from the Bureau of Land Management on new oil wells and new leases on federal lands is presented below.

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[Mr. H.]

This story showed up on the RIGZONE website at least a week ago.
You should subscribe.

You should also participate in all these threads you're creating.

What's your view on this article?

 

[Douger]

How many times does it take for everyone to realize the Dimock water is safe and uncontaminated by natural gas development?

More Data from Dimock: EPA Confirms Water is Safe (Again) | Energy In Depth – Northeast Marcellus Initiative

These are the same cocksuckers that fluoridate your water SHEEPstoned.

 

[RGR]

How many times does it take for everyone to realize the Dimock water is safe and uncontaminated by natural gas development?

More Data from Dimock: EPA Confirms Water is Safe (Again) | Energy In Depth – Northeast Marcellus Initiative

How many more times are you going to pimp the Marcellus?

 

[RGR]

This story showed up on the RIGZONE website at least a week ago.
You should subscribe.

You should also participate in all these threads you're creating.

What's your view on this article?

Not only that, but I thought he/she already posted something very similar, if not the same thing?

 

[RGR]

Many people do not realize this but natural gas development and hydraulic fracturing do not deplete water supplies:

Turning Natural Gas Into Water | Energy In Depth – Northeast Marcellus Initiative

Some people don't realize that carpet bombing in links without discussing them, or apparently even reading them, is considered rude.

 

[Mr. H.]

As I've said before, he reminds me of johnusa.
Informative and interesting stuff, but he just starts a thread and leaves it hanging.

 

[Old Rocks]

I have yet to see where anyone has claimed that fracking depletes the water table. Pollutes it, and renders it unfit for use in some cases, but no claims of depleting it.

 

[waltky]

Man-made quakes caused by resource production...

Study ties oil, gas production to Midwest quakes
Fri, Apr 6, 2012 — Oil and gas production may explain a sharp increase in small earthquakes in the nation's midsection, a new study from the U.S. Geological Survey suggests.

The rate has jumped six-fold from the late 20th century through last year, the team reports, and the changes are "almost certainly man-made." Outside experts were split in their opinions about the report, which is not yet published but is due to be presented at a meeting later this month. The study said a relatively mild increase starting in 2001 comes from increased quake activity in a methane production area along the state line between Colorado and New Mexico. The increase began about the time that methane production began there, so there's a "clear possibility" of a link, says lead author William Ellsworth of the USGS. The increase over the nation's midsection has gotten steeper since 2009, due to more quakes in a variety of oil and gas production areas, including some in Arkansas and Oklahoma, the researchers say.

It's not clear how the earthquake rates might be related to oil and gas production, the study authors said. They note that others have linked earthquakes to injecting huge amounts of leftover wastewater deep into the earth. There has been concern about potential earthquakes from a smaller-scale injection of fluids during a process known as hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, which is used to recover gas. But Ellsworth said Friday he is confident that fracking is not responsible for the earthquake trends his study found, based on prior studies. The study covers a swath of the United States that lies roughly west of Ohio and east of Utah. It counted earthquakes of magnitude 3 and above.

Magnitude 3 quakes are mild, and may be felt by only a few people in the upper floors of buildings, or may cause parked cars to rock slightly. The biggest counted in the study was a magnitude-5.6 quake that hit Oklahoma last Nov. 5, damaging dozens of homes. Experts said it was too strong to be linked to oil and gas production. The researchers reported that from 1970 to 2000, the region they studied averaged about 21 quakes a year. That rose to about 29 a year for 2001 through 2008, they wrote, and the three following years produced totals of 50, 87 and 134, respectively. The study results make sense and are likely due to man-made stress in the ground, said Rowena Lohman, a Cornell University geophysicist. "The key thing to remember is magnitude 3s are really small," Lohman said. "We've seen this sort of behavior in the western United States for a long time."

Usually, it's with geothermal energy, dams or prospecting. With magnitude 4 quakes, a person standing on top of them would at most feel like a sharp jolt, but mostly don't last long enough to be a problem for buildings, she said. The idea is to understand how the man-made activity triggers quakes, she said. One possibility is that the injected fluids change the friction and stickiness of minerals on fault lines. Another concept is that they change the below-surface pressure because the fluid is trapped and builds, and then "sets off something that's about ready to go anyway," Lohman said.

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[Iplaynaked]

Many people do not realize this but natural gas development and hydraulic fracturing do not deplete water supplies:

Turning Natural Gas Into Water | Energy In Depth – Northeast Marcellus Initiative[/url]

Lets see, water comes from earth, earth has natural gas, they use explosives & chemicals to break down earth, chemicals aren't dissoluble, chemicals stay in ground, water coming from ground gets contaminated by chemicals that have no where else to go, water is poisoned.

Like when in the 50's 60's and 70's cigarette companies paid doctors to say cigarettes weren't dangerous.

I'd post the link to the site I viewed but it won't let me post links.

 

[Iplaynaked]

How many times does it take for everyone to realize the Dimock water is safe and uncontaminated by natural gas development?

The EPA also said pink slime is safe for human consumption but up until 2001 it was only used in dog food. I don't trust ANY government agency.

It won't let me post links yet.