Turkish newspaper: Conditions for Ankara to recognize the Kurdish state in KRG

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    13/04/2012

    Turkish media sources said that Ankara agree to recognize the state of Kurdistan in Kurdish Iraq, according to several conditions.

    The newspaper "Twilight News" daily: "The United States asked Turkey to recognize the state flag, because it's in their interest," adding: "Turkey may agree to this request for certain conditions."

    According to the paper, the "Turkey demanded that both the United States of America and the Kurdistan Region to support its military operations against the PKK, and the closure of all outlets in front of him and give full support to Turkey in its war on this party."

    It is noteworthy that senior officials in the Kurdistan Region, especially the Kurdish regional president Massoud Barzani has repeatedly asserted their willingness to cooperate with Turkey, except for the fighting and military operations against the party, and focus on dialogue and negotiations and decision-peaceful means to reach a final solution to the issue of Kurdish in Turkey.

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    KRG needs fighter jets to defend itself against the mullahs of Iran and al Maliki . kurds have never attacked others but also defending themselves , as for PKK they just want autonomy in kurdish region of turkey which they have a right t .
     
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    Iraqi Kurdistan is not an independent country. The idea of selling it fighter jets is a bit ludicrous. Maybe it will become independent one day if Iraq falls apart, but right now US policy is geared towards keeping Iraq intact.

    As for the PKK, however you look at it, the PKK is a terrorist organisation and very anti-democratic. I sympathize with the striving for Kurdish autonomy in Turkey, but the only thing that would be worse for the Kurdish people than living under the Turkish army would be living under PKK rule.
     
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    Iraqi kurdistan is already independent in fact it has been since 1991 , only needs proclaiming and international recognition , and if the people of Kurdistan want to have their own state there should not be anything that US should have a say at , if we hold a referendum and majority want this there is not much you can do except using a veto , who cares Cezch republic is independent but Russia's veto stopped it from a UN membership , we are better off as a state rather than be part of an arabic chaotic Iraq which was established by the British and the French in 1923 without kurdish people's consent , we will set the records straight once and for all , there are plenty of counties who would buy our oil if US uses veto though . there are countries with populations of 200,000 i am sure 30+ million kurds too want a state to call theirs , we have had enuff genocides done towards us by countries invading our lands and within their artificial borders of Iraq Iran Syria and turkey , its not always about US interests it sometime is about the peoples interests too .
     
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    Without US support Iraqi Kurdistan would be overrun in a heartbeat. Maybe independence will come someday, but right now this is not on the cards.
     
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    what US blessings ? your talking to me from Belgium so your prob a turk but i am to let me American fellows on some infos. we south Kurdistanis helped US in Iraq invasion and instead US helped the Shiites and sold them weapons and now the Shiites in Iraq allying themselves with Iran and they are serving Iranian interests giving money to Syria , letting Iraqi space for Iranian weapons transferred to Syria , and finally they excluded ExxonMobil from Iraq's 4th round bidding and replaced it with a "Syrian oil company".

    also i did not see Azawad proclaimed overrun by nobody but instead they are called upon to have negotiations by new Malli president , and they don't have US blessings !! sorry its not the ottoman empire era anymore , its the UN and Arab spring era . we will do it with or without US support , you are not the only super power in the world if you do not support , there is china and Russia , yes we prefer US first but if you disappoint there are others who will help ..

    Kurdish people are going to hold a referendum very soon , 4.5 million of south(Iraqi) kurdistan will vote and what ever the result it , Kurdistan parliament will approve it .
     
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    For one thing, I'm not Turkish. It is very stupid to make assumptions about people.
    It is also very stupid to post things without thinking about them.
    The whole autonomous structure of the Kurds in Northern Iraq wouldn't have existed without US support. That is simply a fact. It doesn't mean the aspirations of the Kurds are not legitimate. But it's important to keep both feet on the ground. Dreams have a way of turning into nightmares if you're not careful.
     
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    yes indeed but with a powerful modern army it will stand on its feet like Israel is .
     
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    Kurds including myself are pro Americans :D , it is time the USA shows its gratitude towards KRG(Kurdistan regional government) for the help in Iraq invasion and your so called ally turkey refused you to use its soil , its time US recognizes KRG as an independent state , it might have a domino affect in Syria and Iran , and prob turkey , but what will turkey have to lose if they gave kurds autonomy ? the only kurdish political party BDP in turkey only wants autonomy anyway !?

    we will never ever interfere in other kurdish regions of other 3 parts that it up to the kurds their to achieve their own goals .

    we will build a strong army to defend ourselves in case anyone close by tries to attack us .

    i hope US Gov't remembers that KRG has 45 billion barrels of oil reserve as well as 200 CBF of natural gas.
     

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