Turkey uses chemical weapons on Kurds

[ekrem]

Another example of where MSM is far behind the curve?

Pajamas Media Is Turkey Using Chemical Weapons Against the Kurds?

Is Turkey Using Chemical Weapons Against the Kurds?
Posted By Soeren Kern On August 15, 2010 @ 10:42 am In Europe, Israel, Middle East, Syria, Turkey, World News | 2 Comments

The German weekly newsmagazine Der Spiegel has published an investigative article [1] that accuses the Turkish military of using chemical weapons against members of the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK). The magazine reports that forensic experts at the Hamburg University Hospital have confirmed the authenticity of 31 photographs that show the severely scorched bodies of eight PKK fighters who are believed to have been killed in the Kurdish town of Çukurca in September 2009. The hospital says it is highly probable that the victims in the photographs, six men and two women who are said to be scarcely recognizable as human beings, died “due to the use of chemical substances.”

The photographs were given to a German human rights delegation that was visiting Turkey in March 2010. That delegation was associated with Die Linke [2], the far-left political party that traces its roots back to the communist party in the former East Germany, which would imply that the allegations warrant skepticism. But it seems unlikely that Der Spiegel, which is one of the largest publications in Europe, with a weekly circulation of more than one million, would publish the story without first determining its veracity. In any case, Der Spiegel reports that Hans Baumann, one of Germany’s leading forgery specialists, has also confirmed the authenticity of the photographs.

According to a detailed report [3] by the Berlin daily newspaper Die Tageszeitung, the incident took place on September 8, when Turkish military headquarters received word that one of its soldiers had been killed by PKK fighters. The army responded by dispatching helicopters and several troop units to the area in an effort to scatter an estimated 7,000 PKK fighters. According to eyewitnesses cited by Die Tageszeitung, eight PKK fighters tried to escape by hiding in a nearby cave. But they were soon discovered by Turkish troops, who proceeded to fire artillery shells, allegedly laden with poison gas, into the cave. Turkish troops later pulled the lifeless bodies from the cave, sprayed them with bullets, and then drove over them with their tanks.

Die Tageszeitung reports it has also obtained other autopsy photographs of six Kurds killed in similar circumstances in Şirnak province in south-eastern Anatolia. Those pictures currently are being analyzed for their authenticity by the University Hospital in Hamburg.

German politicians and human rights experts now are demanding an international probe. “The latest findings are so spectacular that the Turkish side urgently needs to explain things,” says Claudia Roth, the co-chair of Germany’s left-wing Green Party. “It is impossible to understand why an autopsy of the PKK fighters was ordered but the results kept under seal.” Roth adds that there have been repeated “mysterious incidents of this type that are crying out for an independent investigation.”

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Apart from a handful of news outlets, the mainstream media in Europe and the United States have mostly ignored these allegations. Now imagine the MSM reaction if it were Israel that was being accused of using chemical weapons.

Soeren Kern is Senior Analyst for Transatlantic Relations at the Madrid-based Grupo de Estudios Estratégicos / Strategic Studies Group.

Honey, Israel is neither part of Convention on prohibition of Chemical weapons nor the Nuclear non-proliferation treaty. Turkey is.
International inspections happen regularily in Turkey.

You do not hear anything anymore in Germany about this so-called chemical weapons use by Turkish Army. A claim, that was based on photos that were given to a püolitical party (Die Linke), which according to German Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution is increasingly infiltated by PKK.
What a coincidence don't you think?

 

[ekrem]

I had heard from the folks at Butterball that the turkeys were planning an up-rising this Thanksgiving but I didn't know they were going to use chemical weapons. I thought they were just going to flap around a little and gobble and bitch about people not eating more beef at Thanksgiving... We best keep a close eye on the Turkeys...

Will those turkeys from town Butterball begin their uprising before or after the ground-zero mosque is built?
Idiot.

 

[DiveCon]

I had heard from the folks at Butterball that the turkeys were planning an up-rising this Thanksgiving but I didn't know they were going to use chemical weapons. I thought they were just going to flap around a little and gobble and bitch about people not eating more beef at Thanksgiving... We best keep a close eye on the Turkeys...

Will those turkeys from town Butterball begin their uprising before or after the ground-zero mosque is built?
Idiot.

dude, lighten up
he was making a JOKE

 

[uscitizen]

Perhaps they were working with chemical weapons and blew themselves up?

Not enough info to tell.

 

[DiveCon]

Perhaps they were working with chemical weapons and blew themselves up?

Not enough info to tell.

that is a possibility
the PKK is on the State Dept list of terrorists

 

[uscitizen]

Maybe just a meth lab?

People blow themselves from time to time in KY with meth labs.

Who knows....

 

[DiveCon]

Maybe just a meth lab?

People blow themselves from time to time in KY with meth labs.

Who knows....

which is why there should be an external investigation

 

[uscitizen]

Maybe just a meth lab?

People blow themselves from time to time in KY with meth labs.

Who knows....

which is why there should be an external investigation

Like we welcome external investigations into our dealings?

Should Mexico and Cuba investigate the Gulf oil spill?

 

[DiveCon]

Maybe just a meth lab?

People blow themselves from time to time in KY with meth labs.

Who knows....

which is why there should be an external investigation

Like we welcome external investigations into our dealings?

Should Mexico and Cuba investigate the Gulf oil spill?

Mexico should

 

[uscitizen]

which is why there should be an external investigation

Like we welcome external investigations into our dealings?

Should Mexico and Cuba investigate the Gulf oil spill?

Mexico should

any country impacted by the spill should have a right to an investigation.

should China have investigated an internal US matter like Waco?

Or how about the Jim Jones Guiana thing?

 

[DiveCon]

Like we welcome external investigations into our dealings?

Should Mexico and Cuba investigate the Gulf oil spill?

Mexico should

any country impacted by the spill should have a right to an investigation.

should China have investigated an internal US matter like Waco?

Or how about the Jim Jones Guiana thing?

the Jim Jones thing was investigated

by the US

not just by the country it happened in

and the waco thing should have been investigated better than it was

 

[uscitizen]

Mexico should

any country impacted by the spill should have a right to an investigation.

should China have investigated an internal US matter like Waco?

Or how about the Jim Jones Guiana thing?

the Jim Jones thing was investigated

by the US

not just by the country it happened in

and the waco thing should have been investigated better than it was

Waco and ruby ridge were both covered over.

 

[Synthaholic]

What I am trying to say is, that Turkey will not agree to "International Investigation".
And everyone that pushes something like this will be denied entry into Turkey and brandmarked as in colloboration with PKK.

If Turkey is NOT using chemical weapons, why would they deny an independent investigation? Didn't you whine like a stuck pig when Israel refused an independent investigation into the boarding of your ship?

Using your own claim, the only reason Turkey would deny an independent investigation by an IMPARTIAL source is that they are guilty of using CHEMICAL WEAPONS.

The PKK are terrorists. Why do you want to coddle them. They should be killed. Dead is dead.

 

[DiveCon]

any country impacted by the spill should have a right to an investigation.

should China have investigated an internal US matter like Waco?

Or how about the Jim Jones Guiana thing?

the Jim Jones thing was investigated

by the US

not just by the country it happened in

and the waco thing should have been investigated better than it was

Waco and ruby ridge were both covered over.

i agree
next

 

[rhodescholar]

Like we welcome external investigations into our dealings?

Should Mexico and Cuba investigate the Gulf oil spill?

I'm assuming this idiotic trash is meant as a joke...

 

[rhodescholar]

The PPK are terrorists. Why do you want to coddle them. They should be killed. Dead is dead.

Spoken like erdogan the dog himself. The PKK are freedom fighters, with a legitimate claim to their lands - a more legitimate claim I should add than the fakestinians.

 

[rhodescholar]

any country impacted by the spill should have a right to an investigation.

should China have investigated an internal US matter like Waco?

Or how about the Jim Jones Guiana thing?

Are there accusations of broad genocide in these instances? I first thought you were joking, now i realize you're fucking stupid

 

[uscitizen]

any country impacted by the spill should have a right to an investigation.

should China have investigated an internal US matter like Waco?

Or how about the Jim Jones Guiana thing?

Are there accusations of broad genocide in these instances? I first thought you were joking, now i realize you're fucking stupid

Killing how many in a cave is genocide?

 

[Synthaholic]

The PPK are terrorists. Why do you want to coddle them. They should be killed. Dead is dead.

Spoken like erdogan the dog himself. The PKK are freedom fighters, with a legitimate claim to their lands - a more legitimate claim I should add than the fakestinians.

The PKK are brutal terrorists. Reagan called the terrorist Contras 'freedom fighters', too. Must be a wingnut delusion.

 

[uscitizen]

Who is a terrorist and who is not depends on the day of the week I think.

We put Sadam in power in Iraq.