Trumps Lawyers Issue Legal Response Kicking House Democrats In The Balls

[RealDave]

The fact is, most hyper-partisan hacks, who have their head buried in Trump's posterior, would think that Trump's team kicked the "House Democrats In The Balls."
Where as liberal Constitutional scholars, think otherwise.
‘Alternative law:’ Constitutional scholar on the Dershowitz defense of Trump
So, there we have it! Each sides hyper-partisans have their take, but who is Constitutionally right?

Alan is a democrat and won’t vote for trump,, he’s telling all of you democrats you have TDS.. get help

My post is basically none partisan. But you are such a goose-stepping Little Trumpster, you think anyone who is not a Trunk butt-sniffer is a Democrat. Have you checked Trumpster's poll numbers with Independents & moderates?
My post takes neither side on who's approach is correct.
But your post clearly shows who really has "TDS".

de·range·ment
(dĕ-rānj'mĕnt)
1. A disturbance of the regular order or arrangement.
2. Older term for a mental disturbance or disorder.
derangement
You are highly obsessed with Trumpism, as demonstrated with your multiple posts in such a short period of time. If I am on here for fifteen years total,, I still won't reach your total post numbers for one year total. You are an obsessive, which is a mental health disorder. Fact.

Democrats always exhibit one form or another of various derangements and mentall illnesses when a republican president is in office, but it's never been so severe as it is now with Trump.

It goes both ways. The complete obsession with Little Trumpsters is pretty concerning to the point that psychologists are comparing such loyalty to cultism.

That's where you're wrong. Trump supporters come from all walks of life and races, and in many liberal cities are hiding in plain sight. Democrats have literally gone over the cliff with their hatred of Trump and obsession for power. Most of them would be diagnosed as clinically insane.

Actually, the idea you support a fraud, business cheat, accused rapist, over 20 accusations of sexual misconduct, adulterer who drove deficits back over a trillion dollars while claiming a good economy. He trashed our military leaders and veterans. He is allowing for more polluted water ^ dirtier air & more dangerous food supply and more dangerous workplaces.

What about this orange piece of shit do you like? His racism & bigotry? His insults of foreign leaders, his stupidity, his love of Russia?

 

[mudwhistle]

The Republicans weren't wrong.....but the standards of conduct by presidents have sunk so low since Bill Clinton....it seems like he was a victim.
They had a genuine purpose to impeach him. Removing him from office was possibly another thing entirely.

He was a married man and the president of the US who would obviously lie about having an extra marital affair. I don't think it amounted up to "high crimes".

Uh....Clinton was impeached for perjury in a sexual-harassment lawsuit.
Not for getting a BJ in the Oval Orifice.

The pervert lied under oath for having sex with an intern old enough to be his daughter. He took his chances, and the republicans made him and the Democrats pay exposing the lie and impeaching him, leading to Bush being elected. Pelosi is trying to implement the same strategy, however with little success so far. If anything it's turned Trump into a victim and underdog in the eyes of the public, and Americans love underdogs.

I got the feeling that Clinton was up to some really bad shit.
He murdered families in WACO and Ruby Ridge.....he refused to give US forces and my team armored vehicles in Mogadishu which left us open to being shot in the street. All we had was a bit of Aluminum and glass to protect us from being wasted. Every other country had armor. Blackhawk Down and Benghazi is what happens when you don't give a shit about the people you put in harm's way.

Oh please, GW Bush sent soldiers into Iraq without any body armor & unarmoued troop carriers.

Ruby Ridge was in 1992 you stupid fuck.
The Solalia action started in 1992
HW Bush was President.

Maybe you should stick to shit you know about, dirtbag.

Bush sent us to war with the crap that was leftover from the Clinton drawdown.
Everyone knows that when you go to war.....you go with what you have.

Mogadishu was supposed to be a humanitarian mission. It wasn't even considered by the Clinton White House to be a dangerous mission. Then Bubba and the UN General Secretary butchered a bunch of clan leaders.

So they started trying to kill us.

Delta and the Rangers were sent in to started kicking down doors and using gunships to find Aideed. In the space of a few months we went from giving aid to starving Somalis to becoming moving targets for the locals. And why did this happen?

Because Clinton pissed them off and killed members of their family. What we had to drive around in after that was the same HMVEEs we were issued for a humanitarian mission. And every attempt to get armor was refused by the White House.

 

[JLW]

It's a childish, and ridiculous statement and defense, written for kindergarteners imo.

Geez, I hope he has a better defense than that......??

Anyone who thinks that what Cippoline and Sekulow wrote is brilliant law obviously understands nothing of the law. All the answer is a mixture of opinion and legal conclusions, not law. In law school that Answer would be a D-. When you have nothing to argue you just argue no matter how stupid it makes you look. That is Trump’s strategy. The attorneys were probably holding their noses when they submitted that piece of garbage.

 

[RealDave]

He was a married man and the president of the US who would obviously lie about having an extra marital affair. I don't think it amounted up to "high crimes".

Uh....Clinton was impeached for perjury in a sexual-harassment lawsuit.
Not for getting a BJ in the Oval Orifice.

The pervert lied under oath for having sex with an intern old enough to be his daughter. He took his chances, and the republicans made him and the Democrats pay exposing the lie and impeaching him, leading to Bush being elected. Pelosi is trying to implement the same strategy, however with little success so far. If anything it's turned Trump into a victim and underdog in the eyes of the public, and Americans love underdogs.

I got the feeling that Clinton was up to some really bad shit.
He murdered families in WACO and Ruby Ridge.....he refused to give US forces and my team armored vehicles in Mogadishu which left us open to being shot in the street. All we had was a bit of Aluminum and glass to protect us from being wasted. Every other country had armor. Blackhawk Down and Benghazi is what happens when you don't give a shit about the people you put in harm's way.

Oh please, GW Bush sent soldiers into Iraq without any body armor & unarmoued troop carriers.

Ruby Ridge was in 1992 you stupid fuck.
The Solalia action started in 1992
HW Bush was President.

Maybe you should stick to shit you know about, dirtbag.

Bush sent us to war with the crap that was leftover from the Clinton drawdown.
Everyone knows that when you go to war.....you go with what you have.

Mogadishu was supposed to be a humanitarian mission. It wasn't even considered by the Clinton White House to be a dangerous mission. Then Bubba and the UN General Secretary butchered a bunch of clan leaders.

So they started trying to kill us.

Delta and the Rangers were sent in to started kicking down doors and using gunships to find Aideed. In the space of a few months we went from giving aid to starving Somalis to becoming moving targets for the locals. And why did this happen?

Because Clinton pissed them off and killed members of their family. What we had to drive around in after that was the same HMVEEs we were issued for a humanitarian mission. And every attempt to get armor was refused by the White House.

Unless you decide when to start the war like your buddy Bush did? So you say it was Bush who started a war before he had the equipment to do it sand it is Bill Clinton's fault? Maybe if our shit was not still in Afghanistan?
Quit blaming Clinton for reducing the military when your hero dick Cheney cut far more than Clinton did.

All, you do is blame Democrats while being too stupid to know who the blame really belongs - Republicans.

Ruby Ridge - Republican
Somalia started by a Republican
Iraq war - started by a Republican.

 

[RealDave]

He was a married man and the president of the US who would obviously lie about having an extra marital affair. I don't think it amounted up to "high crimes".

Uh....Clinton was impeached for perjury in a sexual-harassment lawsuit.
Not for getting a BJ in the Oval Orifice.

The pervert lied under oath for having sex with an intern old enough to be his daughter. He took his chances, and the republicans made him and the Democrats pay exposing the lie and impeaching him, leading to Bush being elected. Pelosi is trying to implement the same strategy, however with little success so far. If anything it's turned Trump into a victim and underdog in the eyes of the public, and Americans love underdogs.

I got the feeling that Clinton was up to some really bad shit.
He murdered families in WACO and Ruby Ridge.....he refused to give US forces and my team armored vehicles in Mogadishu which left us open to being shot in the street. All we had was a bit of Aluminum and glass to protect us from being wasted. Every other country had armor. Blackhawk Down and Benghazi is what happens when you don't give a shit about the people you put in harm's way.

Oh please, GW Bush sent soldiers into Iraq without any body armor & unarmoued troop carriers.

Ruby Ridge was in 1992 you stupid fuck.
The Solalia action started in 1992
HW Bush was President.

Maybe you should stick to shit you know about, dirtbag.

Bush sent us to war with the crap that was leftover from the Clinton drawdown.
Everyone knows that when you go to war.....you go with what you have.

Mogadishu was supposed to be a humanitarian mission. It wasn't even considered by the Clinton White House to be a dangerous mission. Then Bubba and the UN General Secretary butchered a bunch of clan leaders.

So they started trying to kill us.

Delta and the Rangers were sent in to started kicking down doors and using gunships to find Aideed. In the space of a few months we went from giving aid to starving Somalis to becoming moving targets for the locals. And why did this happen?

Because Clinton pissed them off and killed members of their family. What we had to drive around in after that was the same HMVEEs we were issued for a humanitarian mission. And every attempt to get armor was refused by the White House.

HW put the troops there to provide protection for humanitarian aid & inspectors. Quit blaming Clinton for it. Things turned to shit.

 

[mudwhistle]

Uh....Clinton was impeached for perjury in a sexual-harassment lawsuit.
Not for getting a BJ in the Oval Orifice.

The pervert lied under oath for having sex with an intern old enough to be his daughter. He took his chances, and the republicans made him and the Democrats pay exposing the lie and impeaching him, leading to Bush being elected. Pelosi is trying to implement the same strategy, however with little success so far. If anything it's turned Trump into a victim and underdog in the eyes of the public, and Americans love underdogs.

I got the feeling that Clinton was up to some really bad shit.
He murdered families in WACO and Ruby Ridge.....he refused to give US forces and my team armored vehicles in Mogadishu which left us open to being shot in the street. All we had was a bit of Aluminum and glass to protect us from being wasted. Every other country had armor. Blackhawk Down and Benghazi is what happens when you don't give a shit about the people you put in harm's way.

Oh please, GW Bush sent soldiers into Iraq without any body armor & unarmoued troop carriers.

Ruby Ridge was in 1992 you stupid fuck.
The Solalia action started in 1992
HW Bush was President.

Maybe you should stick to shit you know about, dirtbag.

Bush sent us to war with the crap that was leftover from the Clinton drawdown.
Everyone knows that when you go to war.....you go with what you have.

Mogadishu was supposed to be a humanitarian mission. It wasn't even considered by the Clinton White House to be a dangerous mission. Then Bubba and the UN General Secretary butchered a bunch of clan leaders.

So they started trying to kill us.

Delta and the Rangers were sent in to started kicking down doors and using gunships to find Aideed. In the space of a few months we went from giving aid to starving Somalis to becoming moving targets for the locals. And why did this happen?

Because Clinton pissed them off and killed members of their family. What we had to drive around in after that was the same HMVEEs we were issued for a humanitarian mission. And every attempt to get armor was refused by the White House.

HW put the troops there to provide protection for humanitarian aid & inspectors. Quit blaming Clinton for it. Things turned to shit.

Yeah..sure...and you were there like I was???

 

[mudwhistle]

Uh....Clinton was impeached for perjury in a sexual-harassment lawsuit.
Not for getting a BJ in the Oval Orifice.

The pervert lied under oath for having sex with an intern old enough to be his daughter. He took his chances, and the republicans made him and the Democrats pay exposing the lie and impeaching him, leading to Bush being elected. Pelosi is trying to implement the same strategy, however with little success so far. If anything it's turned Trump into a victim and underdog in the eyes of the public, and Americans love underdogs.

I got the feeling that Clinton was up to some really bad shit.
He murdered families in WACO and Ruby Ridge.....he refused to give US forces and my team armored vehicles in Mogadishu which left us open to being shot in the street. All we had was a bit of Aluminum and glass to protect us from being wasted. Every other country had armor. Blackhawk Down and Benghazi is what happens when you don't give a shit about the people you put in harm's way.

Oh please, GW Bush sent soldiers into Iraq without any body armor & unarmoued troop carriers.

Ruby Ridge was in 1992 you stupid fuck.
The Solalia action started in 1992
HW Bush was President.

Maybe you should stick to shit you know about, dirtbag.

Bush sent us to war with the crap that was leftover from the Clinton drawdown.
Everyone knows that when you go to war.....you go with what you have.

Mogadishu was supposed to be a humanitarian mission. It wasn't even considered by the Clinton White House to be a dangerous mission. Then Bubba and the UN General Secretary butchered a bunch of clan leaders.

So they started trying to kill us.

Delta and the Rangers were sent in to started kicking down doors and using gunships to find Aideed. In the space of a few months we went from giving aid to starving Somalis to becoming moving targets for the locals. And why did this happen?

Because Clinton pissed them off and killed members of their family. What we had to drive around in after that was the same HMVEEs we were issued for a humanitarian mission. And every attempt to get armor was refused by the White House.

Unless you decide when to start the war like your buddy Bush did? So you say it was Bush who started a war before he had the equipment to do it sand it is Bill Clinton's fault? Maybe if our shit was not still in Afghanistan?
Quit blaming Clinton for reducing the military when your hero dick Cheney cut far more than Clinton did.

All, you do is blame Democrats while being too stupid to know who the blame really belongs - Republicans.

Ruby Ridge - Republican
Somalia started by a Republican
Iraq war - started by a Republican.

Fuck you.
Truth is Bush is part of the same establishment that Clinton belongs to.

 

[lantern2814]

It's a childish, and ridiculous statement and defense, written for kindergarteners imo.

Geez, I hope he has a better defense than that......??

Obviously way above your comprehension level. Poor baby, getting your ass kicked already.

 

[JimBowie1958]

It's a childish, and ridiculous statement and defense, written for kindergarteners imo.
Geez, I hope he has a better defense than that......??

Canned response.

The canned and rancid response of the Bully getting his ass kicked, "Dat da bess you got?"

No, and you will soon see more.

 

[JimBowie1958]

The whole issue will come down to votes. I doubt republicans are likely to pay attention to democrat talking points, since they cite no crimes or impeachable offenses.

And I know for damned sure no democrats will jump ship. They have no scruples or ethics. "By any means necessary" is
the Alinskey/Communist code.

Manchin will probably bolt the Dimocrat herd.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Bush sent us to war with the crap that was leftover from the Clinton drawdown.
Everyone knows that when you go to war.....you go with what you have.

Mogadishu was supposed to be a humanitarian mission. It wasn't even considered by the Clinton White House to be a dangerous mission. Then Bubba and the UN General Secretary butchered a bunch of clan leaders.

So they started trying to kill us.

Delta and the Rangers were sent in to started kicking down doors and using gunships to find Aideed. In the space of a few months we went from giving aid to starving Somalis to becoming moving targets for the locals. And why did this happen?

Because Clinton pissed them off and killed members of their family. What we had to drive around in after that was the same HMVEEs we were issued for a humanitarian mission. And every attempt to get armor was refused by the White House.

The worst kind of mission creep when leadership fails to adjust to new circumstances. As soon as the mission became "Get Aideed." you guys should have had M1A1s flown in.

 

[Wapasha]

It's a childish, and ridiculous statement and defense, written for kindergarteners imo.

Geez, I hope he has a better defense than that......??

Okay, summarize it for us then, cite what high crime or high misdemeanor President Trump committed?

It was a rhetorical question, since the answer of course is - NONE

 

[Ame®icano]

18 minutes.

18 minutes after the election results were in, democrats vowed to begin impeachment.

It started earlier than that.

Could Trump Be Impeached Shortly After He Takes Office? - Politico, April 2016

 

[Wapasha]

I don't think it's an obsession.....more like common-sense.
It's clear that when the Democrat Party supports a country like Iran...and they're flooding the country with illegals....and they're trying to take away our rights to own a gun....the only sane thing to do is support who they oppose.

You might as well claim the colonists had an "obsession" with the British monarchy and self rule.

A party that is on the verge of being toppled by socialist progressives, that gives aid and comfort to enemies of America, that tries to flood the nation with illegal voters...that party doesn't deserve to exist. Not in this nation, anyway.

Even worse.....Democrats have become a party of spies who are a worse security risk than your average KGB member.

Forcing Trump to use private citizens like Rudy Giuliani, because the State Department is full of idiots like Sondland who make presumptions out of ignorance, and repeat it as if it's fact. It's also full of backstabbing little traitors like Vindman who heard our president make a comment about Biden firing Shokin, has no clue what that is referring to. So he just speculates and creates his own versions of events. Joining Sondland in spreading lies and rumors as if they are fact.

 

[mudwhistle]

Bush sent us to war with the crap that was leftover from the Clinton drawdown.
Everyone knows that when you go to war.....you go with what you have.

Mogadishu was supposed to be a humanitarian mission. It wasn't even considered by the Clinton White House to be a dangerous mission. Then Bubba and the UN General Secretary butchered a bunch of clan leaders.

So they started trying to kill us.

Delta and the Rangers were sent in to started kicking down doors and using gunships to find Aideed. In the space of a few months we went from giving aid to starving Somalis to becoming moving targets for the locals. And why did this happen?

Because Clinton pissed them off and killed members of their family. What we had to drive around in after that was the same HMVEEs we were issued for a humanitarian mission. And every attempt to get armor was refused by the White House.

The worst kind of mission creep when leadership fails to adjust to new circumstances. As soon as the mission became "Get Aideed." you guys should have had M1A1s flown in.

I would have settled for a few APCs. MRAPs would have saved alot of lives. But Bubba didn't give a shit. We had our guns to protect us. Guns make soldiers bulletproof according to the left.

 

[JimBowie1958]

I would have settled for a few APCs. MRAPs would have saved alot of lives. But Bubba didn't give a shit. We had our guns to protect us. Guns make soldiers bulletproof according to the left.

Hug the ground, heels down....better than nothing I guess.

 

[Care4all]

It's a childish, and ridiculous statement and defense, written for kindergarteners imo.

Geez, I hope he has a better defense than that......??

Okay, summarize it for us then, cite what high crime or high misdemeanor President Trump committed?

It was a rhetorical question, since the answer of course is - NONE

first, let me ask... what do you think a high misdemeanor is....?

everyone on the right, is arguing that it doesn't just have to be a crime, but a HIGH crime, as if HIGH means something even above a normal, regular ole crime, but a HIGH crime....

so if that is the case, what is a HIGH misdemeanor? And are we talking in terms of a high crime being a felony and a high misdemeanor, being a misdemeanor....in today's terms of the crime laws on the books?

I've spent some time trying to figure out, why in the heck would they list it as a HIGH misdemeanor? There is no such thing in our laws as a high misdemeanor.. a misdemeanor, is always a lesser crime, something most would consider a MINOR crime...??

YET, according to our constitution, a president and others in certain high positions ofpower and responsibility in our govt, can be impeached and removed for this so called high misdemeanor?

Well, all of these questions of mine, lead me to doing some research on it, and to make a long story short.... it seems that HIGH crimes and misdemeanors, the HIGH was never refering to the degree above the norm of the crimes or misdemeanors, it refered to the person committing the crimes or misdemeanors being a person holding a HIGH position of power in government, who we put the public trust in.... presidents, judges, prime ministers, VP's, etc.....

And at the time of our founders and in Common Law, the term High Crimes and misdemeanors had a specific meaning of 'a person in a HIGH position, abusing their power and losing the public's trust in them' Federalist Papers #65....

In Nixon's Articles of impeachment, Abuse of Power... several articles on his abuse of power, was what he was being impeached for....

NOT any crime, he was not involved with his men and the break in, in watergate....but his high crime and misdemeanor was for the Cover up of a crime.... the abuse of his power as president, to obfuscate and obstruct congress, to hold back subpoenaed documents, to telling his admin and others to lie....just all kinds of things like that...

so please keep this in mind....

-----------------------------

As far as alleged crimes, very briefly:

breaking
Campaign Finance laws on Foreign gvt help in an election

Withholding the whistleblower urgent complaint from Congress, which was required by law for the IG to give it to them within 10 to 14 days or so.

Govt corruption- soliciting a personal favor from a foreign gvt and using his position in our govt as leverage,

the Impoundment Control Act was broken when the president held the Congressionally passed military aid for the Ukraine's protection against Russia

READ the impeachment manager's brief.. it's in depth, 140 pages, and an easy flowing read... that eplains the above and much more.

 

[Care4all]

18 minutes.

18 minutes after the election results were in, democrats vowed to begin impeachment.

It started earlier than that.

Could Trump Be Impeached Shortly After He Takes Office? - Politico, April 2016

BECAUSE OF WHAT TRUMP said and did on his campaign...

OF COURSE impeachment would be on everyone's tongue, not because they were creating things to do it, to get him out of office,but because of how he thought and what he said his stances were, WERE IMPEACHABLE OFFENSES...

From your article;


Donald Trump isn’t even the Republican nominee yet. But his incendiary rhetoric, most notably about killing the families of terrorists and bringing back torture, has critics on the right and the left discussing the most extreme of countermeasures at an unusually early point in the race.

“Impeachment” is already on the lips of pundits, newspaper editorials, constitutional scholars, and even a few members of Congress. From the right, Washington attorney Bruce Fein puts the odds at 50/50 that a President Trump commits impeachable offenses as president.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

It was wrong when Republicans did it, and since there wasn't even a crime committed, even more wrong now when Democrats are doing it.

So when are you going to officially come out of the closet? You literally begin and end all your responses with "assfuck"?

The Republicans weren't wrong.....but the standards of conduct by presidents have sunk so low since Bill Clinton....it seems like he was a victim.
They had a genuine purpose to impeach him. Removing him from office was possibly another thing entirely.

He was a married man and the president of the US who would obviously lie about having an extra marital affair. I don't think it amounted up to "high crimes".

Uh....Clinton was impeached for perjury in a sexual-harassment lawsuit.
Not for getting a BJ in the Oval Orifice.

The pervert lied under oath for having sex with an intern old enough to be his daughter. He took his chances, and the republicans made him and the Democrats pay exposing the lie and impeaching him, leading to Bush being elected. Pelosi is trying to implement the same strategy, however with little success so far. If anything it's turned Trump into a victim and underdog in the eyes of the public, and Americans love underdogs.

I got the feeling that Clinton was up to some really bad shit.
He murdered families in WACO and Ruby Ridge.....he refused to give US forces and my team armored vehicles in Mogadishu which left us open to being shot in the street. All we had was a bit of Aluminum and glass to protect us from being wasted. Every other country had armor. Blackhawk Down and Benghazi is what happens when you don't give a shit about the people you put in harm's way.

Jeff Epstein was a frequent visitor to the Clinton White House. Did he bring 16 year old "nieces" with him?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

18 minutes.

18 minutes after the election results were in, democrats vowed to begin impeachment.

It started earlier than that.

Could Trump Be Impeached Shortly After He Takes Office? - Politico, April 2016

BECAUSE OF WHAT TRUMP said and did on his campaign...

OF COURSE impeachment would be on everyone's tongue, not because they were creating things to do it, to get him out of office,but because of how he thought and what he said his stances were, WERE IMPEACHABLE OFFENSES...

From your article;


Donald Trump isn’t even the Republican nominee yet. But his incendiary rhetoric, most notably about killing the families of terrorists and bringing back torture, has critics on the right and the left discussing the most extreme of countermeasures at an unusually early point in the race.

“Impeachment” is already on the lips of pundits, newspaper editorials, constitutional scholars, and even a few members of Congress. From the right, Washington attorney Bruce Fein puts the odds at 50/50 that a President Trump commits impeachable offenses as president.

You people need to be eithervcompletely defeated and/or relocated to your own One Party Rule country. Modern Progressives are no longer Americans