tRump's despicable attitude toward the historic fire in Calif. proves he hates America.

[william104]

As a result of what is happening in Calif with the fires and loss of life further proves 45's indifference and callous way of demonstrating he simply does nor care. Additionally, this so-called president further proves he is more devoted to Russia and other enemies of America than the well being of U.S. society and having any outreach or compassion for victims of natural and man made disasters. 45's atrocious and cold shoulder attitude toward the historic fire and victims of this environmental disaster whether man made and/or by nature demonstrates his utter contempt at being a inhumane and a negative demagogue.

Trump couldn't just express empathy for California fire victims. What's the matter with him?

Trump’s first tweet about the California fires should have been: “We are saddened by the loss of life and property caused by California’s fires. Our thanks and admiration to the firefighters and others on the front lines of this tragedy. Your government will do everything it can to assist.”

Instead, it was: “There is no reason for these massive, deadly and costly forest fires in California except that forest management is so poor. Billions of dollars are given each year, with so many lives lost, all because of gross mismanagement of the forests. Remedy now or no more Fed payments!”
source: latimes .com

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

The stupid CA Democrats screwed up by preventing the removal of underbrush

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

As a result of what is happening in Calif with the fires and loss of life further proves 45's indifference and callous way of demonstrating he simply does nor care. Additionally, this so-called president further proves he is more devoted to Russia and other enemies of America than the well being of U.S. society and having any outreach or compassion for victims of natural and man made disasters. 45's atrocious and cold shoulder attitude toward the historic fire and victims of this environmental disaster whether man made and/or by nature demonstrates his utter contempt at being a inhumane and a negative demagogue.

Trump couldn't just express empathy for California fire victims. What's the matter with him?

Trump’s first tweet about the California fires should have been: “We are saddened by the loss of life and property caused by California’s fires. Our thanks and admiration to the firefighters and others on the front lines of this tragedy. Your government will do everything it can to assist.”

Instead, it was: “There is no reason for these massive, deadly and costly forest fires in California except that forest management is so poor. Billions of dollars are given each year, with so many lives lost, all because of gross mismanagement of the forests. Remedy now or no more Fed payments!”
source: latimes .com

If I am not mistaken, didnt Californication try to secede from the United States? That makes them the enemy of our country and should get no federal funding for their stupid shit. Funny how easy liberals forget this, then it comes back and smacks them in their burned up asses.

California Just Put Secession On The 2018 Ballot

If the signature collection endeavor is successful it would force a special election in 2019 where Californians would be allowed to alter California’s constitution by removing the language which says California is an “inseparable part of the United States.” It would further remove the language which says the Constitution of the United States is the “supreme law of the land.”

Fuck em all...

 

[Coyote]

Trump is an idiot.

Why are California wildfires so bad? An interactive look

Climate change is making the state hotter and drier
Hot temperatures and dry conditions caused by global warming are taking a toll on west coast forests. The past five years in California have been the hottest on record, and the state recently came out of a nearly six-year drought, its second worst in history.

A lack of rainfall coupled with disappearing groundwater increases the likelihood of tree death. Dead trees act as explosive fuel when wildfires start.

There are millions of dead trees in California
Because of drought, rising temperatures and a growing epidemic of migrating bark beetles that prey on trees, an alarming number of trees, nearly 129m, have died since 2010. California has removed only 1.3m of these trees in that same period: the rest litter the state's forests with tinder.

Much of California is a time bomb
The large number of dead trees, combined with California's already dry, hot and windy climate, has made much of the state susceptible to wildfires. It doesn't take a lot to start one - humans are responsible for 84% of them - and with about a quarter of California counties facing severe or worsening drought conditions, rain and groundwater are often unavailable to help put out fires.




It is like blaming Florida for hurricanes.

 

[Sunsettommy]

As a result of what is happening in Calif with the fires and loss of life further proves 45's indifference and callous way of demonstrating he simply does nor care. Additionally, this so-called president further proves he is more devoted to Russia and other enemies of America than the well being of U.S. society and having any outreach or compassion for victims of natural and man made disasters. 45's atrocious and cold shoulder attitude toward the historic fire and victims of this environmental disaster whether man made and/or by nature demonstrates his utter contempt at being a inhumane and a negative demagogue.

Trump couldn't just express empathy for California fire victims. What's the matter with him?

Trump’s first tweet about the California fires should have been: “We are saddened by the loss of life and property caused by California’s fires. Our thanks and admiration to the firefighters and others on the front lines of this tragedy. Your government will do everything it can to assist.”

Instead, it was: “There is no reason for these massive, deadly and costly forest fires in California except that forest management is so poor. Billions of dollars are given each year, with so many lives lost, all because of gross mismanagement of the forests. Remedy now or no more Fed payments!”
source: latimes .com

Gosh William, the fact that he is correct wasn't even considered possible at all. Just another fake outrage making you look ignorant or stupid.

 

[Coyote]

As a result of what is happening in Calif with the fires and loss of life further proves 45's indifference and callous way of demonstrating he simply does nor care. Additionally, this so-called president further proves he is more devoted to Russia and other enemies of America than the well being of U.S. society and having any outreach or compassion for victims of natural and man made disasters. 45's atrocious and cold shoulder attitude toward the historic fire and victims of this environmental disaster whether man made and/or by nature demonstrates his utter contempt at being a inhumane and a negative demagogue.

Trump couldn't just express empathy for California fire victims. What's the matter with him?

Trump’s first tweet about the California fires should have been: “We are saddened by the loss of life and property caused by California’s fires. Our thanks and admiration to the firefighters and others on the front lines of this tragedy. Your government will do everything it can to assist.”

Instead, it was: “There is no reason for these massive, deadly and costly forest fires in California except that forest management is so poor. Billions of dollars are given each year, with so many lives lost, all because of gross mismanagement of the forests. Remedy now or no more Fed payments!”
source: latimes .com

If I am not mistaken, didnt Californication try to secede from the United States? That makes them the enemy of our country and should get no federal funding for their stupid shit. Funny how easy liberals forget this, then it comes back and smacks them in their burned up asses.

California Just Put Secession On The 2018 Ballot

If the signature collection endeavor is successful it would force a special election in 2019 where Californians would be allowed to alter California’s constitution by removing the language which says California is an “inseparable part of the United States.” It would further remove the language which says the Constitution of the United States is the “supreme law of the land.”

Fuck em all...

So has Texas.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Trump is an idiot.

Why are California wildfires so bad? An interactive look

Climate change is making the state hotter and drier
Hot temperatures and dry conditions caused by global warming are taking a toll on west coast forests. The past five years in California have been the hottest on record, and the state recently came out of a nearly six-year drought, its second worst in history.

A lack of rainfall coupled with disappearing groundwater increases the likelihood of tree death. Dead trees act as explosive fuel when wildfires start.

There are millions of dead trees in California
Because of drought, rising temperatures and a growing epidemic of migrating bark beetles that prey on trees, an alarming number of trees, nearly 129m, have died since 2010. California has removed only 1.3m of these trees in that same period: the rest litter the state's forests with tinder.

Much of California is a time bomb
The large number of dead trees, combined with California's already dry, hot and windy climate, has made much of the state susceptible to wildfires. It doesn't take a lot to start one - humans are responsible for 84% of them - and with about a quarter of California counties facing severe or worsening drought conditions, rain and groundwater are often unavailable to help put out fires.




It is like blaming Florida for hurricanes.

Anyone have a tin foil hat? Maybe it can reflect all that heat off of Coyote here?

 

[Sunsettommy]

Trump is an idiot.

Why are California wildfires so bad? An interactive look

Climate change is making the state hotter and drier
Hot temperatures and dry conditions caused by global warming are taking a toll on west coast forests. The past five years in California have been the hottest on record, and the state recently came out of a nearly six-year drought, its second worst in history.

A lack of rainfall coupled with disappearing groundwater increases the likelihood of tree death. Dead trees act as explosive fuel when wildfires start.

There are millions of dead trees in California
Because of drought, rising temperatures and a growing epidemic of migrating bark beetles that prey on trees, an alarming number of trees, nearly 129m, have died since 2010. California has removed only 1.3m of these trees in that same period: the rest litter the state's forests with tinder.

Much of California is a time bomb
The large number of dead trees, combined with California's already dry, hot and windy climate, has made much of the state susceptible to wildfires. It doesn't take a lot to start one - humans are responsible for 84% of them - and with about a quarter of California counties facing severe or worsening drought conditions, rain and groundwater are often unavailable to help put out fires.




It is like blaming Florida for hurricanes.

1) misleading since the warming is NEGLIGIBLE over 118 years:

Figure 1. Average monthly California temperatures from the WRCC. The seasonal variations have been removed.

Figure 2. Annualized monthly rainfall in California per the WRCC. Since rainfall data is usually given in inches per year, not per month, I have multiplied all of the values by 12 to “a

The real problem were Lawsuits:

"First, our forests have not been harvested properly for some years. This is the result of a variety of lawsuits, one of which banned logging in many areas in 1994. This was in a vain attempt to protect the Spotted Owl. Unfortunately, this was just a green fantasy—stopping the logging has had no effect on the decline of the Spotted Owl. It appears that instead, it is being displaced by another owl, the Barred Owl. Oops … and there have been a host of other lawsuits that have stopped or restricted logging.

Next, California regulations highly restrict both the logging and the thinning of forests. After the fires in Redding, Governor Brown said he’d work to change the laws … but so far, crickets."

 

[badger2]

California must be helped and not chastised. Those humans, houses, trees and wildlife had the right to be protected from fire. At least the misconceptions of this thread are placed in an environmental forum. The true heroes, the firefighters, lay exhausted for their effort. We vow not to let them down. California will rise from these ashes.

 

[skookerasbil]

As a result of what is happening in Calif with the fires and loss of life further proves 45's indifference and callous way of demonstrating he simply does nor care. Additionally, this so-called president further proves he is more devoted to Russia and other enemies of America than the well being of U.S. society and having any outreach or compassion for victims of natural and man made disasters. 45's atrocious and cold shoulder attitude toward the historic fire and victims of this environmental disaster whether man made and/or by nature demonstrates his utter contempt at being a inhumane and a negative demagogue.

Trump couldn't just express empathy for California fire victims. What's the matter with him?

Trump’s first tweet about the California fires should have been: “We are saddened by the loss of life and property caused by California’s fires. Our thanks and admiration to the firefighters and others on the front lines of this tragedy. Your government will do everything it can to assist.”

Instead, it was: “There is no reason for these massive, deadly and costly forest fires in California except that forest management is so poor. Billions of dollars are given each year, with so many lives lost, all because of gross mismanagement of the forests. Remedy now or no more Fed payments!”
source: latimes .com

Who gets upset about st00pid stuff like this?

People who haven't figured out that life is about calling the shots as you see them. Get some real responsibilities in your life s0n and you might figure out how to buckle up your chin strap.

 

[Anathema]

Please show me anywhere in the US Constitution thst indicates LOCAL natural disasters are the problem f the Federal Government.

These fires, and many of the other recurring disasters are simply a matter of people being too stupid to recognize and do the things necessary to avoid them. Why should the Government repeatedly pay these people to rebuild their communities in these danger areas with no additional requirements to remedy the issues?

 

[mamooth]

It's the heat and dryness. The temperature keeps climbing, and that dries out the vegetation more, even if rainfall levels remain steady. This chart shows the 1950-2000 change.

California Temperatures on the Rise
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[mamooth]

California Just Put Secession On The 2018 Ballot

If the signature collection endeavor is successful it would force a special election in 2019 where Californians would be allowed to alter California’s constitution by removing the language which says California is an “inseparable part of the United States.” It would further remove the language which says the Constitution of the United States is the “supreme law of the land.”

Fuck em all...

Did you perhaps notice the 2018 election passed, and the issue was _not_ on the ballot? So why are you whining about it?

Or, that's right. You're looking for excuses to _not_ help fellow Americans based entirely on politics. You never saw liberals doing that. We're much better Americans than you are.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

California Just Put Secession On The 2018 Ballot

If the signature collection endeavor is successful it would force a special election in 2019 where Californians would be allowed to alter California’s constitution by removing the language which says California is an “inseparable part of the United States.” It would further remove the language which says the Constitution of the United States is the “supreme law of the land.”

Fuck em all...

Did you perhaps notice the 2018 election passed, and the issue was _not_ on the ballot? So why are you whining about it?

Or, that's right. You're looking for excuses to _not_ help fellow Americans based entirely on politics. You never saw liberals doing that. We're much better Americans than you are.

Dear, I use that term very loosely, you fucktards forget what was said, and then when it is brought up again, you immediately go on the offensive to shut down the argument. When it was said that President Trump hated Californicatians(who claimed to be Americans) I just pointed out that it is Californicatians who hate America, want to no longer be part of the Unites States, so should be treated like enemies and thus burn by their own declarations.. And you whiney bitches hate it when you are called out for it also.

Time to say buy bye to the bitch, again, like many other liberals I have put on ignore, I no longer will attempt to enlighten them on who the real enemy of the people are. They can rot in hell, for all I care, they vote for them , they must suffer for what the liberal FORCE upon them..

Buh Bye..

 

[jc456]

As a result of what is happening in Calif with the fires and loss of life further proves 45's indifference and callous way of demonstrating he simply does nor care. Additionally, this so-called president further proves he is more devoted to Russia and other enemies of America than the well being of U.S. society and having any outreach or compassion for victims of natural and man made disasters. 45's atrocious and cold shoulder attitude toward the historic fire and victims of this environmental disaster whether man made and/or by nature demonstrates his utter contempt at being a inhumane and a negative demagogue.

Trump couldn't just express empathy for California fire victims. What's the matter with him?

Trump’s first tweet about the California fires should have been: “We are saddened by the loss of life and property caused by California’s fires. Our thanks and admiration to the firefighters and others on the front lines of this tragedy. Your government will do everything it can to assist.”

Instead, it was: “There is no reason for these massive, deadly and costly forest fires in California except that forest management is so poor. Billions of dollars are given each year, with so many lives lost, all because of gross mismanagement of the forests. Remedy now or no more Fed payments!”
source: latimes .com

and is that statement wrong? that is the question.

 

[bodecea]

The stupid CA Democrats screwed up by preventing the removal of underbrush

Underbrush is removed and replaced by iceplant within reach of homes.....are you saying that all chaparral throughout the state needs to be stripped out in order to prevent fires?

 

[Sunsettommy]

As a result of what is happening in Calif with the fires and loss of life further proves 45's indifference and callous way of demonstrating he simply does nor care. Additionally, this so-called president further proves he is more devoted to Russia and other enemies of America than the well being of U.S. society and having any outreach or compassion for victims of natural and man made disasters. 45's atrocious and cold shoulder attitude toward the historic fire and victims of this environmental disaster whether man made and/or by nature demonstrates his utter contempt at being a inhumane and a negative demagogue.

Trump couldn't just express empathy for California fire victims. What's the matter with him?

Trump’s first tweet about the California fires should have been: “We are saddened by the loss of life and property caused by California’s fires. Our thanks and admiration to the firefighters and others on the front lines of this tragedy. Your government will do everything it can to assist.”

Instead, it was: “There is no reason for these massive, deadly and costly forest fires in California except that forest management is so poor. Billions of dollars are given each year, with so many lives lost, all because of gross mismanagement of the forests. Remedy now or no more Fed payments!”
source: latimes .com

and is that statement wrong? that is the question.

Mamooth, William and Coyote doesn't address what the President said at all, just skirt around it with babble, heck Mamooth ignored my superior post about the state temperature and Precipitation trends.

Trump was correct that the state and ecoloonies who were the ones who hamstrings the proper forest management practice of keeping the fuel loads down. I brought that up in post #8, which has been ignored.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

The stupid CA Democrats screwed up by preventing the removal of underbrush

Underbrush is removed and replaced by iceplant within reach of homes.....are you saying that all chaparral throughout the state needs to be stripped out in order to prevent fires? View attachment 228716

yes

 

[bodecea]

The stupid CA Democrats screwed up by preventing the removal of underbrush

Underbrush is removed and replaced by iceplant within reach of homes.....are you saying that all chaparral throughout the state needs to be stripped out in order to prevent fires? View attachment 228716

yes

Then you accept that we will have mud slides then. And after that, how do you suggest we stop the native chaparral from growing back?

 

[jc456]

The stupid CA Democrats screwed up by preventing the removal of underbrush

Underbrush is removed and replaced by iceplant within reach of homes.....are you saying that all chaparral throughout the state needs to be stripped out in order to prevent fires? View attachment 228716

it does need to be maintained. You should ask yourself what is the fuel for the fires? So you think it's trees?