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[Daryl Hunt]

Socialism has been tried countless times and in countless forms and has 100% failure rate long-term… The collective can pound sand

You think "socialist ideas” can’t work in a democracy?

This is supposed to be a republic, not a shit eating democracy. The problem with socialist ideas Everything about him Has to be mandatory for everybody even though they can’t possibly work for conservatives.

In the South, there are more "Conservatives" on welfare than not. In fact, it's so bad that the northern richer states sends their poorer Red State Cousins money to keep them from blowing away from the first stiff breeze. And that includes SD where you live. Colorado is a purple state and we are financially well off yet we send money through the Federal Government to your state (among others) so that your state can at least pretend to be part of the nation.

I propose that each state keeps what they have and only sends the minimums to the Federals. Your state wants to play Deep Red, fine. That's up to you but you play it on your own dime. How long before SD, ND and Wyoming has to become on big state just to make ends meet.

 

[Rustic]

Na, I don’t want to force anybody into shit they don’t want, and I expect the same back.

You drawing medicare, medicaid or Social Security?

Trump has given billions to farmers in trying to keep them solvent because of his tariffs having closed their markets. You don’t find that a little bit..... socialist?

I don’t believe in any socialist entitlement programs, because they are bankrupt ideology.
I’ve paid into those all my life and that will never see a cent from them, that’s OK. I know better than to rely on socialist entitlement programs.

Let's see if you gene pool improved. You say you paid into them all your life. Well so have I. And now I am taking some of that back out. Not as much as I should be able to since the Criminals (all politicians) have helped themselves to trillions and never paid it back. That's MY money and yours. And who is the latest one helping himself to MY money?

NO matter what you say, I am a fiscal conservative. We used to be the Republican Party before the JBS hijacked it and it became what you see today. I miss two things. My old party that was exceptional for America and those JBS signs about us getting out of the UN. I would trade today's Republican Party for the old JBS Get out of the UN sign in a heart beat.

I will never see a penny from what I have paid in My whole adult life, It will be bankrupt before I hit of age to collect anything. And that’s OK I don’t need it. I just wish I could quit paying into it because I know I’ll never get anything out of it. Lol
Typical socialist entitlement program… A load of shit

 

[Rustic]

Socialism has been tried countless times and in countless forms and has 100% failure rate long-term… The collective can pound sand

You think "socialist ideas” can’t work in a democracy?

This is supposed to be a republic, not a shit eating democracy. The problem with socialist ideas Everything about him Has to be mandatory for everybody even though they can’t possibly work for conservatives.

In the South, there are more "Conservatives" on welfare than not. In fact, it's so bad that the northern richer states sends their poorer Red State Cousins money to keep them from blowing away from the first stiff breeze. And that includes SD where you live. Colorado is a purple state and we are financially well off yet we send money through the Federal Government to your state (among others) so that your state can at least pretend to be part of the nation.

I propose that each state keeps what they have and only sends the minimums to the Federals. Your state wants to play Deep Red, fine. That's up to you but you play it on your own dime. How long before SD, ND and Wyoming has to become on big state just to make ends meet.

The Indian reservations are a huge drag on South Dakota...

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Best thread ever

Yep,
There would be no Trump if there was no Obama… I think Obama once said elections have consequences?

Actually, there was going to be a Rump regardless. All Obama did was delay it. I saw a severe breakdown non Nov. 8th 2008 and just get worse after that. But the seeds were already there. Much of the same would have happened if a Woman were to have been elected then as well. And heaven forbid, a Black Woman.

I saw what I through were perfectly balanced people all of a sudden start talking about hoping someone would shoot the President. They would never come out and directly way they would do it themselves. And I am retired Military and served under some very unsavory Presidents. When I stated, "Like him or not, He's MY president and no one shoots my president". I lost some very long time friends over that and have never talked to them since by their choice. And then Rump comes along and it just gets worse.

Rump is not the problem. He's the symptom. And we need to treat the symptoms. And a pill or a shot won't cure those problems until we start treating the symptoms. This is why I say, ":No More Free Rides".

 

[Rustic]

This is supposed to be a republic, not a shit eating democracy.

Jesus.

Well so much for this thread.

You have a good Halloween Rustic.

 

[Rustic]

Best thread ever

Yep,
There would be no Trump if there was no Obama… I think Obama once said elections have consequences?

Actually, there was going to be a Rump regardless. All Obama did was delay it. I saw a severe breakdown non Nov. 8th 2008 and just get worse after that. But the seeds were already there. Much of the same would have happened if a Woman were to have been elected then as well. And heaven forbid, a Black Woman.

I saw what I through were perfectly balanced people all of a sudden start talking about hoping someone would shoot the President. They would never come out and directly way they would do it themselves. And I am retired Military and served under some very unsavory Presidents. When I stated, "Like him or not, He's MY president and no one shoots my president". I lost some very long time friends over that and have never talked to them since by their choice. And then Rump comes along and it just gets worse.

Rump is not the problem. He's the symptom. And we need to treat the symptoms. And a pill or a shot won't cure those problems until we start treating the symptoms. This is why I say, ":No More Free Rides".

We’ve never had a conservative career politician in my lifetime, And certainly not a president that is conservative. The closest one is Trump to governing conservatively.
And it is refreshing to have someone that doesn’t let progressives rollover him, like Bush Junior, Senior and Reagan did.

 

[sparky]

When Trump was elected my biggest fear was that he was going to do just like Reagan

Trump openly admits his adoration of Reagan, with policies that follow suit

~S~

 

[Rustic]

The view of conservatives sure has changed a while lot from the days of fiscal responsibility, free trade, and foreign military intervention.

Actually no career politician even knows what fiscal responsibility even it, We’ve never had free trade, being the worlds policeman is absolutely ridiculous...

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Socialism has been tried countless times and in countless forms and has 100% failure rate long-term… The collective can pound sand

You think "socialist ideas” can’t work in a democracy?

This is supposed to be a republic, not a shit eating democracy. The problem with socialist ideas Everything about him Has to be mandatory for everybody even though they can’t possibly work for conservatives.

In the South, there are more "Conservatives" on welfare than not. In fact, it's so bad that the northern richer states sends their poorer Red State Cousins money to keep them from blowing away from the first stiff breeze. And that includes SD where you live. Colorado is a purple state and we are financially well off yet we send money through the Federal Government to your state (among others) so that your state can at least pretend to be part of the nation.

I propose that each state keeps what they have and only sends the minimums to the Federals. Your state wants to play Deep Red, fine. That's up to you but you play it on your own dime. How long before SD, ND and Wyoming has to become on big state just to make ends meet.

The Indian reservations are a huge drag on South Dakota...

Not just the Indian Rezes. The Welfare in Rancid City is out of control. It's lost a whole bunch of jobs in the last 30 years. Any city who's sole income is from a Military Base is going to be a welfare city. Not just in SD, but everywhere. I have a bit more experience in seeing that than you do. And I have watched cities and towns lose their Military bases. Some actually thrive but most turn into ghost towns. Since Rancid City has run out it's primary corporate businesses, guess which way it will go.

Be careful, almost all of the Military Bases I have been stationed at have closed. If my luck holds out, Ellsworth may be next. And what then for you income? You are a bit old to learn how to make beads and baskets.

 

[jwoodie]

The view of conservatives sure has changed a while lot from the days of fiscal responsibility, free trade, and foreign military intervention.

Conservative views:

1. Fiscal responsibility requires a Congress to rein in entitlement programs.

2. Free trade is a two way street.

3. Foreign military intervention should be used sparingly but decisively to protect vital American interests.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Best thread ever

Yep,
There would be no Trump if there was no Obama… I think Obama once said elections have consequences?

Actually, there was going to be a Rump regardless. All Obama did was delay it. I saw a severe breakdown non Nov. 8th 2008 and just get worse after that. But the seeds were already there. Much of the same would have happened if a Woman were to have been elected then as well. And heaven forbid, a Black Woman.

I saw what I through were perfectly balanced people all of a sudden start talking about hoping someone would shoot the President. They would never come out and directly way they would do it themselves. And I am retired Military and served under some very unsavory Presidents. When I stated, "Like him or not, He's MY president and no one shoots my president". I lost some very long time friends over that and have never talked to them since by their choice. And then Rump comes along and it just gets worse.

Rump is not the problem. He's the symptom. And we need to treat the symptoms. And a pill or a shot won't cure those problems until we start treating the symptoms. This is why I say, ":No More Free Rides".

We’ve never had a conservative career politician in my lifetime, And certainly not a president that is conservative. The closest one is Trump to governing conservatively.
And it is refreshing to have someone that doesn’t let progressives rollover him, like Bush Junior, Senior and Reagan did.

Rump is NOT a conservative. Step away from that Orange Koolaid. I am a fiscal Conservative. That is the reason I find Rump so hard to take. He claims to be one and them runs up the bills, lies out his ass, treats fiscal conservatives (and everyone else) like crap and then demand that we protect him or he will destroy us. They tried that with Ike and Harry and all it got them was spanked. Both of those guys had to pay for two wars and didn't go bankrupt to do it. And American saw some mighty big and mighty changes happen under those two. In fact, the next few Presidents rode on those two's coat tails.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

The view of conservatives sure has changed a while lot from the days of fiscal responsibility, free trade, and foreign military intervention.

Conservative views:

1. Fiscal responsibility requires a conservative Congress to rein in entitlement programs. We haven't had that since Newt Gingrich.

2. Free trade is a two way street.

3. Foreign military intervention should be used sparingly but decisively to protect vital American interests.

I was impressed by Newt, myself. His Contract with America is something we need once again. And Billy agreed to it so Clinton wasn't as bad as many think he was (barring a blow job or two).

There has never been a "Free Trade". It's only able to exist if everyone is honest. Since everyone isn't then the best you can do is "Fair Trade".

One 3, I agree. And when you do use it, turn it loose, don't play silly assed games. Make it so terrible that no other country will ever want to receive that again. Let the Military do it's job.

 

[skews13]

When Trump was elected my biggest fear was that he was going to do just like Reagan, Bush Senior and Junior did, bend over and let progressives Dominate him, That he didn’t.... refreshing. Lol

I know his personal beliefs are along the lines of Democrats, but the fact remains he governs more conservative than any career politician in modern times.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

This is supposed to be a republic, not a shit eating democracy.

Jesus.

Well so much for this thread.

You have a good Halloween Rustic.

Well, you have to admit I fall pretty well into this category, don't I.

 

[Crepitus]

He only bends over for Vladimir.

Lol
he doesn’t bend over for progressives like Bush Senior and Junior did... That’s what matters

So you're ok with him taking orders from the Kremlin.

Somehow I'm not surprised.

Anyone else?

 

[Lesh]

He only bends over for Vladimir.

Lol
he doesn’t bend over for progressives like Bush Senior and Junior did... That’s what matters

So you're ok with him taking orders from the Kremlin.

Somehow I'm not surprised.

Anyone else?

Not me...

 

[Daryl Hunt]

He only bends over for Vladimir.

Lol
he doesn’t bend over for progressives like Bush Senior and Junior did... That’s what matters

So you're ok with him taking orders from the Kremlin.

Somehow I'm not surprised.

Anyone else?

Not me...

He's looking past when he leaves office. The Moscow Rump Tower becomes a Reality where Putin gets his own top floor with opulence that he's never had before.

 

[Rustic]

Socialism has been tried countless times and in countless forms and has 100% failure rate long-term… The collective can pound sand

You think "socialist ideas” can’t work in a democracy?

This is supposed to be a republic, not a shit eating democracy. The problem with socialist ideas Everything about him Has to be mandatory for everybody even though they can’t possibly work for conservatives.

In the South, there are more "Conservatives" on welfare than not. In fact, it's so bad that the northern richer states sends their poorer Red State Cousins money to keep them from blowing away from the first stiff breeze. And that includes SD where you live. Colorado is a purple state and we are financially well off yet we send money through the Federal Government to your state (among others) so that your state can at least pretend to be part of the nation.

I propose that each state keeps what they have and only sends the minimums to the Federals. Your state wants to play Deep Red, fine. That's up to you but you play it on your own dime. How long before SD, ND and Wyoming has to become on big state just to make ends meet.

The Indian reservations are a huge drag on South Dakota...

Not just the Indian Rezes. The Welfare in Rancid City is out of control. It's lost a whole bunch of jobs in the last 30 years. Any city who's sole income is from a Military Base is going to be a welfare city. Not just in SD, but everywhere. I have a bit more experience in seeing that than you do. And I have watched cities and towns lose their Military bases. Some actually thrive but most turn into ghost towns. Since Rancid City has run out it's primary corporate businesses, guess which way it will go.

Be careful, almost all of the Military Bases I have been stationed at have closed. If my luck holds out, Ellsworth may be next. And what then for you income? You are a bit old to learn how to make beads and baskets.

Actually the Black Hills area is growing more than it ever has, it’s real attractive to businesses that need low taxes. Out in rapid Valley and south of rapid city it’s exploding with growth. Ellsworth chosen as training base, first to receive B-21 nuclear bombers
I have not had better business...
Rapid City, South Dakota Economy

 

[Rustic]

This is supposed to be a republic, not a shit eating democracy.

Jesus.

Well so much for this thread.

You have a good Halloween Rustic.

Well, you have to admit I fall pretty well into this category, don't I.

When you think about it there’s really no reason to get along, compromise solves nothing

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

He only bends over for Vladimir.

Add Dancing with the stars to the also taking order from the Kremlin list...

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