Porter Rockwell
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First, no it hasn’t collapsed-
MAJOR UPDATE on the Gofundme Wall – THIS IS THE INFO YOU HAVE ASKED FOR
Click here to support We The People Will Build the Wall organized by Brian Kolfage
Secondly, the salary of doctors has nothing to do with the costs to hospitals for treating those illegals that can’t pay. Why do you think hospitals close? They can’t stay afloat, due to unpaid bills due to indigent care, whether from illegals or others.
A Hospital on Border Going Over the Edge
Illegal Immigrants Overrun Arizona's Emergency Rooms
Prisons, thirdly. Take away the criminal illegal inhabitants, how much does our population come in line with other countries not facing the influx of illegals we have. And this figure does not include state prisons or local jail numbers.
Immigration Status of Aliens in BOP Custody
As of September 28, 2017, a total of 24,476 confirmed aliens were housed in BOP facilities, and an additional 14,979 foreign-born individuals in BOP facilities remained under ICE investigation; together these known and suspected aliens accounted for 21 percent of all federal inmates in BOP custody.2 At least 22,614 aliens in BOP facilities were unlawfully present, including 20,240 people (51 percent of the total) who had been ordered removed and 2,374 people (six percent) who were unlawfully present and in removal proceedings. Less than five percent of the total (1,852 people) were lawfully present and in removal proceedings, and just 10 aliens had received an immigration benefit or received relief from removal. See Figure 1.
https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/Alien_Incarceration_Report_OIS_FY17_Q4_2.pdf
It is stated that criminal illegal aliens avg 7 arrests.
How many of those elusive "illegals" left?
Let me answer your question with one of my own. Why do you oppose controlling who enters our nation?
That is a totally dumb ass question. But, let me fix it for you:
WHY I OPPOSE THE BUILD THE WALL CRACKPOTS
The number one reason is the dumb fucks on the right think the only way a foreigner should enter is through some non-existent method they call "legal" which is code for citizenship.
The Constitution does not require people to become citizens in order to participate in the free market. We're losing our country because the right is wrong on the way we do business.
Furthermore, the Constitution gives Congress a very limited role in this. It is in some very short and sweet language:
"Congress shall have the power ... To establish a uniform rule of naturalization" Article 1 Section 8 of the United States Constitution
The second major reason I'm opposed to those people is that after FOUR DECADES of being involved in this issue, the percentages of people from south of the border never changes.
The build the wall people harp on how many people come here, but never give a figure on how many go back to their native country. If they worked in the field and spent equal amounts of time on every side, they would understand: it's interstate commerce. People coming here to engage in the free market are not covered by the Constitution. The word immigration means to leave one's country for the purpose of coming to another country for permanent residence.Look it up in a legal dictionary if you don't believe it.
The third major reason can be found in my critics admission that I don't agree with this idiocy is that the immigration laws were forced through Congress by liberals. They were meant to implode and they end up being a subtle tool for committing genocide against the white people.
America was not built to be inhabited by every race, color, creed, political persuasion, sexual orientation, and religious viewpoint. Citizenship is a privilege, not a rite of passage in order to exercise unalienable Rights. You have to separate interstate commerce from immigration since coming here has NOTHING to do with immigration (constitutionally speaking) UNLESS the foreigner plans on staying here permanently.
The bigger question is why are people like you so consumed with CONTROL? Do you not listen to the voices of reason? To draw you a legal analogy (IF you can understand it) the way I ALMOST lost a court case came when I won a political battle to limit the places a person can smoke. Great. Separate areas for people to eat without breathing cigarette smoke.
Then the city of Atlanta banned "assault weapons." They cited the very bill I helped write. They said that we empowered government to protect our safety with the anti - smoking bill. So, by outlawing so - called assault weapons, they were protecting our safety. The ONLY reason we ended up winning is because Georgia law pre-empted local legislation that is inconsistent with state law.
Now you want to control people who come here and take advantage of opportunities willingly offered. Then you'll bitch when the government passes a law based upon legislation you supported to unconstitutionally control a group of people engaging in otherwise legal activities??? I should teach you the concept of regulation instead of control.
Our schools, jails, prisons and emergency rooms are filled with illegals and there is a cost associated with their presence, which is passed on to the American citizen. Obviously, the U.S. Congress and possibly half of the U.S. are opposed to border security and even having immigration policies. Why am I obligated to take food off of my child's plate in order to subsidize foreigners that have no legal right to be here? How did I incur that debt?
BULLSHIT
The House of Representatives fell to the Democrats. Trump lost support in the Senate. Then some group started a GoFundMe page to raise the money to build the wall. That effort collapsed and the people who started the page had to refund the collected funds. I'd like to put some perspective into what that effort represents:
One of the wallists talking points is that so called "illegals" are getting free health care and bankrupting the hospitals. So, the medical community had a dog in the fight - IF you buy the lie.
According to one source specialists make around $300,000 per year
How Much Do Doctors Make in 2018?
There are over 500,000 specialists in the United States:
Active physicians U.S. number by specialty 2018 | Statistic
Not all of those specialists will come into contact with undocumented foreigners; however, there are emergency hospital personnel, paramedics, LRNs, RPNs, PAs, etc., etc. that do which figure into the over-all picture. But if we use just the specialists only, we arrive at an income of $150 BILLION dollars a year. Again that does not count the 20 or so support personnel behind each specialist. And a GoFundMe page collapses because we cannot find $5 Billion dollars? Simply translated, the wallists are blowing smoke and there is no real concern by those supposedly affected to write a one time check to make their jobs easier and their incomes higher. The wallists do not understand the economics of their own country. Most Americans do NOT support the wall. That number rises daily.
Insofar as schools are concerned, your problem is with the federal government. You want to make government bigger. The reality is, Thomas Jefferson did not want the federal government involved in education.
Did you realize that when Thomas Jefferson penned the words to the Danbury Baptists regarding the separation of church and state, the educational system in the U.S. was the church's bailiwick? Jefferson was essentially promising the people that the government would never usurp that authority... yet that is exactly what happened and you're trying your best to justify it! The irony of it all.
With respect to prisons:
America has more people in prison than any nation on the planet. It is part and parcel of the ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT. Author Ayn Rand wrote:
"There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that’s the system … that’s the game…"
You are pushing horseshit. Border security and the wall aren't even remotely related. Foreigners are here because the American people willingly do business with them. The medical industry, with the most to lose, in your standard canard of excuses obviously disagrees with you. They spoke more with silence than I can with a thousand paragraphs.
Since your post started out with something utterly ridiculous, I didn't bother to read it.
If a doctor's salary is not impacted by these supposed costs, then there are NO real costs to the medical profession. That is high school accounting. You might get a few thank yous for stupidity, but if you post a link that supports a theory, I can post TEN to dispute. As such, the balance of your post isn't worth considering.