Porter Rockwell
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I'm not making assumptions. Maybe you can show us something different. Here is the MSM telling us where some of the money is already being taken from:
https://www.usnews.com/news/nationa...ps-civil-asset-forfeiture-to-fund-border-wall
Connect the dots. Trump nominates William Barr to be his Attorney General. Barr's views on asset forfeiture?
"I'm disturbed that he's been a big fan of taking people's property, civil asset forfeiture, without a conviction. Many poor people in our country have cash taken from them and then the government says, prove to us where you got the cash, and then you can get it back. But the burden is on the individual," (a quote from Rand Paul about Barr)
Rand Paul: Barr Nomination 'Very Troubling' as Far as Patriot Act, Civil Asset Forfeiture
My guess is, the money that Trump has access to via asset forfeiture, will greatly increase with Barr as his A.G. The people who own guns that will become criminals over-night will astonish you six months down the road when you see how much more the feds are raking in under Barr.
Well, thanks for at least admitting that your guess about the future is a guess.
Like I said, I am not happy about the abuses of Asset Seizure.
But we need the Wall.
You want to attack Asset Seizure? i'm with you. But not at this time, not as an excuse to not secure the border.
The bottom line of all bottom lines is that the border will not work in our constitutional Republic. It has been demonstrated that the peripheral laws will only expand, taking away your Liberty and making America a third world cesspool.
You are connecting two distinct issues and assuming cause and effect.
1. There is nothing about our Constitutional Republic that is contrary to having a Wall on the border to help maintain security.
2. The assumption that "peripheral laws" will expand, somehow because of this, a. unsupported, and b. still not a good enough reason.
I assume NOTHING. I've worked all sides of this issue since 1977. You?
When the wall is unnecessary, it is overreach by the president to ignore state governors, both Houses of Congress, the overwhelming majority of National Security Advisers, and the American people. You having a hard on for a dictator is no justification for something that is wholly unnecessary.
When peripheral laws connected to the wall nullify the Bill of Rights, it is the BEST reason to avoid it.
Well over 20 million illegals living in this country, show that the Wall, and many other steps are completely needed.
Liars like you inflating the numbers help provide bonafide reasons that most people call B.S. on your socialist solution.
Calling people illegal is a sign of weakness as well. Without the name calling, you have to look at them as people. You can't do that.