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An all-out-war would cost S. Korea thousands of lives, and turn a portion of the planet into a smoldering ruin (n. Korea). An embargo of trading partners with N. Korea kills no one and solves the problem. In addition, it may wake the US up to the fact that we should start making our own goods once again.
By saying that they haven't attacked us in the past and equating that to they won't is immature in the extreme. To wait until they can do serious damage to us before we act is outright anti-American. To say, we can obliterate N. Korea with our nukes if they attack us ignores the fact that if we nuke N. Korea, the fallout from that action lands squarely on us.
Much better this way.
We agree that it would cost many lives, but not as many as NoKo first dropping a nuke on Japan, for instance, and then the same all-out war occurring afterward. And, clearly, nobody believes that is a real possibility, else NoKo would already be a smoking hole in the ground. We are counting on the concept of M.A.D. to keep NoKo from nuking anyone. Agreed?
Apparently, nearly every nation involved thinks that's a strong possibility (that they won't use it), or NoKo would already be a smoking hole on the map.
We can't ignore the possibility that those other nations involved are short sighted idiots.
I'm not sure what that even means.... we have the capability to destroy the entire country of NoKo in place, ready to go at a moment's notice. that seems like the OPPOSITE of ignoring it...?
But, in the same spirit as your point: We can't ignore the possibility that we have a mentally ill President who often acts against the advice of everyone around him, ALL of whom are much smarter and more experienced than he is.
Being able to quickly destroy North Korea is irrelevant. They have the population of Seoul as hostages.
It is not irrelevant, as a nuke strike from NoKo would be more damaging than what they would do to Seoul with conventional missiles.
ALL OF IT WENT RIGHT OVER YOUR HEADS!!!
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I don't agree.We agree that it would cost many lives, but not as many as NoKo first dropping a nuke on Japan, for instance, and then the same all-out war occurring afterward. And, clearly, nobody believes that is a real possibility, else NoKo would already be a smoking hole in the ground. We are counting on the concept of M.A.D. to keep NoKo from nuking anyone. Agreed?
We agree that it would cost many lives, but not as many as NoKo first dropping a nuke on Japan, for instance, and then the same all-out war occurring afterward. And, clearly, nobody believes that is a real possibility, else NoKo would already be a smoking hole in the ground. We are counting on the concept of M.A.D. to keep NoKo from nuking anyone. Agreed?
I don't know if he'll be deposed, but he'll ABSO-MOTHERFUCKING-LUTELY be prevented from stopping all trade with China.
Sure, I'd love to see the anti-Trumpers, rallying around fucking China.
End trade with anyone doing business with N. Korea --> The sky is falling, the sky is falling!
N. Korea continues to develop an offensive Nuclear weapons platform. Who in their right mind thinks that they won't use it?
Apparently, nearly every nation involved thinks that's a strong possibility (that they won't use it), or NoKo would already be a smoking hole on the map.
We can't ignore the possibility that those other nations involved are short sighted idiots.
I'm not sure what that even means.... we have the capability to destroy the entire country of NoKo in place, ready to go at a moment's notice. that seems like the OPPOSITE of ignoring it...?
But, in the same spirit as your point: We can't ignore the possibility that we have a mentally ill President who often acts against the advice of everyone around him, ALL of whom are much smarter and more experienced than he is.
Being able to quickly destroy North Korea is irrelevant. They have the population of Seoul as hostages.
It is not irrelevant, as a nuke strike from NoKo would be more damaging than what they would do to Seoul with conventional missiles.
No, Ronald Reagan relied on the power of economics and correctly realized that the USSR could not continue to be a threat if their economy collapsed. It was the rest of the world that thought that M.A.D. was the ONLY way to ensure nothing bad happened. In fact, the best way was to eliminate the bad element in the equation."Everyone thought that M.A.D. was the good policy with The Soviet Union too. They were afraid and scared to do anything about that. However, Ronald Reagan thought differently."
Utterly false. MAD enabled Reagan to do what he did. Reagan relied 100% on MAD, else he would have attacked Russia first. Relying on MAD enabled Reagan to wage economic warfare on the USSR. These were acts that would have precipitated conventional war in a heartbeat, pre-1940.
if Seoul goes poof, then all of north Korea goes poof...Kimmy boy knows that...thus why it won't happen....he loves his life of luxury imo....Stock market would crash.
Same thing if Seoul goes poof
SEOUL (Reuters) - South Korean President Moon Jae-in and his U.S. counterpart Donald Trump agreed on Monday to scrap a warhead weight limit on South Korea’s missiles in the wake of North Korea’s sixth nuclear test, South Korea’s presidential office said. South Korea, U.S. to scrap warhead weight limit on South Korean missiles: Blue House We could also go the Reagan route and deploy nukes to South Korea.....
No, Ronald Reagan relied on the power of economics and correctly realized that the USSR could not continue to be a threat if their economy collapsed. It was the rest of the world that thought that M.A.D. was the ONLY way to ensure nothing bad happened. In fact, the best way was to eliminate the bad element in the equation."Everyone thought that M.A.D. was the good policy with The Soviet Union too. They were afraid and scared to do anything about that. However, Ronald Reagan thought differently."
Utterly false. MAD enabled Reagan to do what he did. Reagan relied 100% on MAD, else he would have attacked Russia first. Relying on MAD enabled Reagan to wage economic warfare on the USSR. These were acts that would have precipitated conventional war in a heartbeat, pre-1940.
That worked, and this will too.,
We had them when we put them in Europe too........SEOUL (Reuters) - South Korean President Moon Jae-in and his U.S. counterpart Donald Trump agreed on Monday to scrap a warhead weight limit on South Korea’s missiles in the wake of North Korea’s sixth nuclear test, South Korea’s presidential office said. South Korea, U.S. to scrap warhead weight limit on South Korean missiles: Blue House We could also go the Reagan route and deploy nukes to South Korea.....
We could, but we already have nukes on subs that can hit North Korea. they know this.
Trump will blame Obama!Stock market would crash.
If Donald Trump blocks trade with China for being a North Korean trade partner, then he’ll be immediately overthrown, says WikiLeaks co-founder Julian Assange, responding to Trump’s tweet threatening to ban trade with states that do business with Pyongyang.
Trump will be ‘deposed immediately’ if he blocks trade with China over N. Korea – Assange
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Well we will see where his informants take him will they feed Trump false information like good little puppet master slaves. Or will the real deal tell Trump what he must do in order to save our Country economically.
Trump already knows the answer and he is a business expert and for the idiots who think he lost a few companies or whatever.......... He sold them off and decided to get out of those deals. That's what business men do. Jackasses!
They are threatening entire region.....Peace... who has North Korea attacked lately? Why should we collapse 2 economies to stop an attack that's never going to happen?If you wont suffer some economic pain now to achieve some progress toward peace......do libs have some policy suggestions here.......You mean rallying for the U.S. economy. You know what? I hope Trump DOES end trade with China. It will only last a couple days once Trump realizes what he's done, and you inbreds will have learned an important lesson.Sure, I'd love to see the anti-Trumpers, rallying around fucking China.
Yeah, they're a threat to world peace ain't they.
Defense spending accounts for about 20 percent of all U.S. federal spending. Peter G. Peterson Foundation
Why are we now interested in NK after selling them nuclerar reactors a mere two years before Bush placed them on an "axis of evil" list one might ask? Oh, the usual.
North Korea’s Enormous Reserves of Minerals Could Be a Game-Changer | TIME.com
Largest known rare earth deposit discovered in North Korea | MINING.com
North Korea could be sitting on trillions in untapped mineral resources
Russia To Revamp North Korea's Rail System, Eyes Mineral Resources
True....with the caveat the the geography is a lot different, yet still I see your point. I suppose that, if you want to make your point, you put them right in their face.We had them when we put them in Europe too........SEOUL (Reuters) - South Korean President Moon Jae-in and his U.S. counterpart Donald Trump agreed on Monday to scrap a warhead weight limit on South Korea’s missiles in the wake of North Korea’s sixth nuclear test, South Korea’s presidential office said. South Korea, U.S. to scrap warhead weight limit on South Korean missiles: Blue House We could also go the Reagan route and deploy nukes to South Korea.....
We could, but we already have nukes on subs that can hit North Korea. they know this.
