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Yes, if they were unfair. Since I am not working on campus in an office dealing with sexual assault, I really can't say. It sounds from what I read last year that some of the young men were being expelled from college without due process? That is not right, if that is what happened.Betsy DeVos is set to weaken sexual misconduct enforcement on campus.
The New York Times reported on Wednesday afternoon that the Education Department secretary is revising Title IX standards for addressing cases of sexual harassment and assault on college campuses. DeVos has yet to finalize the revisions, but a draft obtained by Times will “bolster the rights” of accused students, “narrow the definition of sexual harassment,” and hold “schools accountable only for formal complaints filed through proper authorities and for conduct said to have occurred on their campuses.”
If ushered in, the new/revised rules will be titled, 'Make Grabbing Pussy Great Again'
So, do any of the women here agree that campus sexual assault guidelines should be relaxed?
I advocate women being supported in the case of rape, regardless of where it happens. I don't advocate ruining a young man's education with accusations that are not properly looked into and confirmed.
The article (see Marty Began's link, post #5) explains things a little better and the why and wherefore of it.
I don't think most of us have the actual knowledge of how these rules work to know if this is going to make things more or less fair for victims and the accused.
No one get me wrong, I've seen the other side of this and seen how much a scared young college student has to go through before the police or even campus security can intervene when a stalker is after her. It's terrifying, especially when the guy is someone who has broken bones on past girlfriends.So, right now, All a victim does is point & the accused goes to jail. No lawyers, no judge, no trials.Oh go fuck yourself. There was due process before these changes.Trumps dumbass Education Secretary is rewriting the guidelines for colleges as to what constitutes sexual harassment.
Evidently anythings goes if it does not interfer with the education process of the victim.
The new standards will make it nearly impossible for victims to pursue any legal channel within the institutions.
Yes..... people like you, totalitarians believe in Star Chambers and Secret Courts who can arrest, try and convict innocent people all they want.... this move by Trump simply reinstates "Due Process" to the kangaroo courts on these left wing college campuses.....yes, for you asshats the rule of law sucks...but for normal people, we like to have our day in court.
No, there wasn't, you stupid doofus........ read the stories and do some basic research.
Who knew?
We have many examples of a person being expelled, suspended for just the accusations. There needs to be justice and not arbitrary BS.
You ave no clue what evidence was provided to the school.So, right now, All a victim does is point & the accused goes to jail. No lawyers, no judge, no trials.Oh go fuck yourself. There was due process before these changes.Trumps dumbass Education Secretary is rewriting the guidelines for colleges as to what constitutes sexual harassment.
Evidently anythings goes if it does not interfer with the education process of the victim.
The new standards will make it nearly impossible for victims to pursue any legal channel within the institutions.
Yes..... people like you, totalitarians believe in Star Chambers and Secret Courts who can arrest, try and convict innocent people all they want.... this move by Trump simply reinstates "Due Process" to the kangaroo courts on these left wing college campuses.....yes, for you asshats the rule of law sucks...but for normal people, we like to have our day in court.
No, there wasn't, you stupid doofus........ read the stories and do some basic research.
Who knew?
We have many examples of a person being expelled, suspended for just the accusations. There needs to be justice and not arbitrary BS.
Yes, if they were unfair. Since I am not working on campus in an office dealing with sexual assault, I really can't say. It sounds from what I read last year that some of the young men were being expelled from college without due process? That is not right, if that is what happened.Betsy DeVos is set to weaken sexual misconduct enforcement on campus.
The New York Times reported on Wednesday afternoon that the Education Department secretary is revising Title IX standards for addressing cases of sexual harassment and assault on college campuses. DeVos has yet to finalize the revisions, but a draft obtained by Times will “bolster the rights” of accused students, “narrow the definition of sexual harassment,” and hold “schools accountable only for formal complaints filed through proper authorities and for conduct said to have occurred on their campuses.”
If ushered in, the new/revised rules will be titled, 'Make Grabbing Pussy Great Again'
So, do any of the women here agree that campus sexual assault guidelines should be relaxed?
I advocate women being supported in the case of rape, regardless of where it happens. I don't advocate ruining a young man's education with accusations that are not properly looked into and confirmed.
The article (see Marty Began's link, post #5) explains things a little better and the why and wherefore of it.
I don't think most of us have the actual knowledge of how these rules work to know if this is going to make things more or less fair for victims and the accused.
there are over 5,200 colleges & universities within the US. If someone is expelled from one educational institution, what precludes that person from going to one of the other 5,199 schools?
You ave no clue what evidence was provided to the school.So, right now, All a victim does is point & the accused goes to jail. No lawyers, no judge, no trials.Oh go fuck yourself. There was due process before these changes.Yes..... people like you, totalitarians believe in Star Chambers and Secret Courts who can arrest, try and convict innocent people all they want.... this move by Trump simply reinstates "Due Process" to the kangaroo courts on these left wing college campuses.....yes, for you asshats the rule of law sucks...but for normal people, we like to have our day in court.
No, there wasn't, you stupid doofus........ read the stories and do some basic research.
Who knew?
We have many examples of a person being expelled, suspended for just the accusations. There needs to be justice and not arbitrary BS.
Yes, if they were unfair. Since I am not working on campus in an office dealing with sexual assault, I really can't say. It sounds from what I read last year that some of the young men were being expelled from college without due process? That is not right, if that is what happened.Betsy DeVos is set to weaken sexual misconduct enforcement on campus.
The New York Times reported on Wednesday afternoon that the Education Department secretary is revising Title IX standards for addressing cases of sexual harassment and assault on college campuses. DeVos has yet to finalize the revisions, but a draft obtained by Times will “bolster the rights” of accused students, “narrow the definition of sexual harassment,” and hold “schools accountable only for formal complaints filed through proper authorities and for conduct said to have occurred on their campuses.”
If ushered in, the new/revised rules will be titled, 'Make Grabbing Pussy Great Again'
So, do any of the women here agree that campus sexual assault guidelines should be relaxed?
I advocate women being supported in the case of rape, regardless of where it happens. I don't advocate ruining a young man's education with accusations that are not properly looked into and confirmed.
The article (see Marty Began's link, post #5) explains things a little better and the why and wherefore of it.
I don't think most of us have the actual knowledge of how these rules work to know if this is going to make things more or less fair for victims and the accused.
there are over 5,200 colleges & universities within the US. If someone is expelled from one educational institution, what precludes that person from going to one of the other 5,199 schools?
If he did nothing wrong why should he be expelled and forced to go to another school? What about his right to go to the school of his choice?
Apparently Dave doesn’t like due process.
Too bad, this is America
So, there was no due process before? A viictim pointed a finger & they hauled the accused off to jail. Who knew?
And there a list 100 times longer of women that were raped & abused.Trumps dumbass Education Secretary is rewriting the guidelines for colleges as to what constitutes sexual harassment.
Evidently anythings goes if it does not interfer with the education process of the victim.
The new standards will make it nearly impossible for victims to pursue any legal channel within the institutions.
Yeah, Due Process is a horrible concept, right, Stalin?
There was due procerss before, dumbass.
Like at Duke?
And I can list countless other examples, by the way, but that is probably the most notorious and egregious.
In the past an accusation has been enough to destroy a young mans future.Sure Marty. We need protection for the accused by masking it nearly impossible to file a complsauintTrumps dumbass Education Secretary is rewriting the guidelines for colleges as to what constitutes sexual harassment.
Evidently anythings goes if it does not interfer with the education process of the victim.
The new standards will make it nearly impossible for victims to pursue any legal channel within the institutions.
Once again you lie. The guidelines are to make sure due process is followed during the process of determining the validity of the accusations.
Preliminary Education Department rules on campus sexual misconduct include important due process protections, according to report
They kicked them out of college etc. On the baisis of an accusation, no due process. That is unacceptable.Apparently Dave doesn’t like due process.
Too bad, this is America
So, there was no due process before? A viictim pointed a finger & they hauled the accused off to jail. Who knew?
Yes, if they were unfair. Since I am not working on campus in an office dealing with sexual assault, I really can't say. It sounds from what I read last year that some of the young men were being expelled from college without due process? That is not right, if that is what happened.Betsy DeVos is set to weaken sexual misconduct enforcement on campus.
The New York Times reported on Wednesday afternoon that the Education Department secretary is revising Title IX standards for addressing cases of sexual harassment and assault on college campuses. DeVos has yet to finalize the revisions, but a draft obtained by Times will “bolster the rights” of accused students, “narrow the definition of sexual harassment,” and hold “schools accountable only for formal complaints filed through proper authorities and for conduct said to have occurred on their campuses.”
If ushered in, the new/revised rules will be titled, 'Make Grabbing Pussy Great Again'
So, do any of the women here agree that campus sexual assault guidelines should be relaxed?
I advocate women being supported in the case of rape, regardless of where it happens. I don't advocate ruining a young man's education with accusations that are not properly looked into and confirmed.
The article (see Marty Began's link, post #5) explains things a little better and the why and wherefore of it.
I don't think most of us have the actual knowledge of how these rules work to know if this is going to make things more or less fair for victims and the accused.
there are over 5,200 colleges & universities within the US. If someone is expelled from one educational institution, what precludes that person from going to one of the other 5,199 schools?
If he did nothing wrong why should he be expelled and forced to go to another school? What about his right to go to the school of his choice?
the poster stated something to the effect of ruining someon's education; impossible. There are too many schools for that to happen.
They kicked them out of college etc. On the baisis of an accusation, no due process. That is unacceptable.Apparently Dave doesn’t like due process.
Too bad, this is America
So, there was no due process before? A viictim pointed a finger & they hauled the accused off to jail. Who knew?
Why should they have to?Yes, if they were unfair. Since I am not working on campus in an office dealing with sexual assault, I really can't say. It sounds from what I read last year that some of the young men were being expelled from college without due process? That is not right, if that is what happened.Betsy DeVos is set to weaken sexual misconduct enforcement on campus.
The New York Times reported on Wednesday afternoon that the Education Department secretary is revising Title IX standards for addressing cases of sexual harassment and assault on college campuses. DeVos has yet to finalize the revisions, but a draft obtained by Times will “bolster the rights” of accused students, “narrow the definition of sexual harassment,” and hold “schools accountable only for formal complaints filed through proper authorities and for conduct said to have occurred on their campuses.”
If ushered in, the new/revised rules will be titled, 'Make Grabbing Pussy Great Again'
So, do any of the women here agree that campus sexual assault guidelines should be relaxed?
I advocate women being supported in the case of rape, regardless of where it happens. I don't advocate ruining a young man's education with accusations that are not properly looked into and confirmed.
The article (see Marty Began's link, post #5) explains things a little better and the why and wherefore of it.
I don't think most of us have the actual knowledge of how these rules work to know if this is going to make things more or less fair for victims and the accused.
there are over 5,200 colleges & universities within the US. If someone is expelled from one educational institution, what precludes that person from going to one of the other 5,199 schools?
I don't see such a broad range of options as, "ruining a young man's education."
Yes, if they were unfair. Since I am not working on campus in an office dealing with sexual assault, I really can't say. It sounds from what I read last year that some of the young men were being expelled from college without due process? That is not right, if that is what happened.Betsy DeVos is set to weaken sexual misconduct enforcement on campus.
The New York Times reported on Wednesday afternoon that the Education Department secretary is revising Title IX standards for addressing cases of sexual harassment and assault on college campuses. DeVos has yet to finalize the revisions, but a draft obtained by Times will “bolster the rights” of accused students, “narrow the definition of sexual harassment,” and hold “schools accountable only for formal complaints filed through proper authorities and for conduct said to have occurred on their campuses.”
If ushered in, the new/revised rules will be titled, 'Make Grabbing Pussy Great Again'
So, do any of the women here agree that campus sexual assault guidelines should be relaxed?
I advocate women being supported in the case of rape, regardless of where it happens. I don't advocate ruining a young man's education with accusations that are not properly looked into and confirmed.
The article (see Marty Began's link, post #5) explains things a little better and the why and wherefore of it.
I don't think most of us have the actual knowledge of how these rules work to know if this is going to make things more or less fair for victims and the accused.
there are over 5,200 colleges & universities within the US. If someone is expelled from one educational institution, what precludes that person from going to one of the other 5,199 schools?
If he did nothing wrong why should he be expelled and forced to go to another school? What about his right to go to the school of his choice?
Yes, if they were unfair. Since I am not working on campus in an office dealing with sexual assault, I really can't say. It sounds from what I read last year that some of the young men were being expelled from college without due process? That is not right, if that is what happened.Betsy DeVos is set to weaken sexual misconduct enforcement on campus.
The New York Times reported on Wednesday afternoon that the Education Department secretary is revising Title IX standards for addressing cases of sexual harassment and assault on college campuses. DeVos has yet to finalize the revisions, but a draft obtained by Times will “bolster the rights” of accused students, “narrow the definition of sexual harassment,” and hold “schools accountable only for formal complaints filed through proper authorities and for conduct said to have occurred on their campuses.”
If ushered in, the new/revised rules will be titled, 'Make Grabbing Pussy Great Again'
So, do any of the women here agree that campus sexual assault guidelines should be relaxed?
I advocate women being supported in the case of rape, regardless of where it happens. I don't advocate ruining a young man's education with accusations that are not properly looked into and confirmed.
The article (see Marty Began's link, post #5) explains things a little better and the why and wherefore of it.
I don't think most of us have the actual knowledge of how these rules work to know if this is going to make things more or less fair for victims and the accused.
there are over 5,200 colleges & universities within the US. If someone is expelled from one educational institution, what precludes that person from going to one of the other 5,199 schools?
If he did nothing wrong why should he be expelled and forced to go to another school? What about his right to go to the school of his choice?
the poster stated something to the effect of ruining someon's education; impossible. There are too many schools for that to happen.
So you’re seriously trying to arguing that if someone gets kicked out of Harvard based on an accusation and nothing else they won’t have their education ruined because they can go to Trump University?
I've seen the other side of this and seen how much a scared young college student has to go through before the police or even campus security can intervene when a stalker is after her.
Exactly.They kicked them out of college etc. On the baisis of an accusation, no due process. That is unacceptable.Apparently Dave doesn’t like due process.
Too bad, this is America
So, there was no due process before? A viictim pointed a finger & they hauled the accused off to jail. Who knew?
Not to mention they would likely be blacklisted from any other college. What university is going to except someone who is kicked out of their last college for rape charges?
Yes, if they were unfair. Since I am not working on campus in an office dealing with sexual assault, I really can't say. It sounds from what I read last year that some of the young men were being expelled from college without due process? That is not right, if that is what happened.Betsy DeVos is set to weaken sexual misconduct enforcement on campus.
The New York Times reported on Wednesday afternoon that the Education Department secretary is revising Title IX standards for addressing cases of sexual harassment and assault on college campuses. DeVos has yet to finalize the revisions, but a draft obtained by Times will “bolster the rights” of accused students, “narrow the definition of sexual harassment,” and hold “schools accountable only for formal complaints filed through proper authorities and for conduct said to have occurred on their campuses.”
If ushered in, the new/revised rules will be titled, 'Make Grabbing Pussy Great Again'
So, do any of the women here agree that campus sexual assault guidelines should be relaxed?
I advocate women being supported in the case of rape, regardless of where it happens. I don't advocate ruining a young man's education with accusations that are not properly looked into and confirmed.
The article (see Marty Began's link, post #5) explains things a little better and the why and wherefore of it.
I don't think most of us have the actual knowledge of how these rules work to know if this is going to make things more or less fair for victims and the accused.
there are over 5,200 colleges & universities within the US. If someone is expelled from one educational institution, what precludes that person from going to one of the other 5,199 schools?
If he did nothing wrong why should he be expelled and forced to go to another school? What about his right to go to the school of his choice?
the poster stated something to the effect of ruining someon's education; impossible. There are too many schools for that to happen.
So you’re seriously trying to arguing that if someone gets kicked out of Harvard based on an accusation and nothing else they won’t have their education ruined because they can go to Trump University?
Why should someone who has been denied due process be forced to leave their college and then attempt to resume their studies elsewhere?Yes, if they were unfair. Since I am not working on campus in an office dealing with sexual assault, I really can't say. It sounds from what I read last year that some of the young men were being expelled from college without due process? That is not right, if that is what happened.
I advocate women being supported in the case of rape, regardless of where it happens. I don't advocate ruining a young man's education with accusations that are not properly looked into and confirmed.
The article (see Marty Began's link, post #5) explains things a little better and the why and wherefore of it.
I don't think most of us have the actual knowledge of how these rules work to know if this is going to make things more or less fair for victims and the accused.
there are over 5,200 colleges & universities within the US. If someone is expelled from one educational institution, what precludes that person from going to one of the other 5,199 schools?
If he did nothing wrong why should he be expelled and forced to go to another school? What about his right to go to the school of his choice?
the poster stated something to the effect of ruining someon's education; impossible. There are too many schools for that to happen.
So you’re seriously trying to arguing that if someone gets kicked out of Harvard based on an accusation and nothing else they won’t have their education ruined because they can go to Trump University?
Harvard isn't the only university in America & Trump University was nothing but a scam, by a con man.
Why should they have to?Yes, if they were unfair. Since I am not working on campus in an office dealing with sexual assault, I really can't say. It sounds from what I read last year that some of the young men were being expelled from college without due process? That is not right, if that is what happened.Betsy DeVos is set to weaken sexual misconduct enforcement on campus.
The New York Times reported on Wednesday afternoon that the Education Department secretary is revising Title IX standards for addressing cases of sexual harassment and assault on college campuses. DeVos has yet to finalize the revisions, but a draft obtained by Times will “bolster the rights” of accused students, “narrow the definition of sexual harassment,” and hold “schools accountable only for formal complaints filed through proper authorities and for conduct said to have occurred on their campuses.”
If ushered in, the new/revised rules will be titled, 'Make Grabbing Pussy Great Again'
So, do any of the women here agree that campus sexual assault guidelines should be relaxed?
I advocate women being supported in the case of rape, regardless of where it happens. I don't advocate ruining a young man's education with accusations that are not properly looked into and confirmed.
The article (see Marty Began's link, post #5) explains things a little better and the why and wherefore of it.
I don't think most of us have the actual knowledge of how these rules work to know if this is going to make things more or less fair for victims and the accused.
there are over 5,200 colleges & universities within the US. If someone is expelled from one educational institution, what precludes that person from going to one of the other 5,199 schools?
I don't see such a broad range of options as, "ruining a young man's education."
It has happened many times. If a crime is alleged it is not for college staff to ‘investigate’.Yes, if they were unfair. Since I am not working on campus in an office dealing with sexual assault, I really can't say. It sounds from what I read last year that some of the young men were being expelled from college without due process? That is not right, if that is what happened.Betsy DeVos is set to weaken sexual misconduct enforcement on campus.
The New York Times reported on Wednesday afternoon that the Education Department secretary is revising Title IX standards for addressing cases of sexual harassment and assault on college campuses. DeVos has yet to finalize the revisions, but a draft obtained by Times will “bolster the rights” of accused students, “narrow the definition of sexual harassment,” and hold “schools accountable only for formal complaints filed through proper authorities and for conduct said to have occurred on their campuses.”
If ushered in, the new/revised rules will be titled, 'Make Grabbing Pussy Great Again'
So, do any of the women here agree that campus sexual assault guidelines should be relaxed?
I advocate women being supported in the case of rape, regardless of where it happens. I don't advocate ruining a young man's education with accusations that are not properly looked into and confirmed.
The article (see Marty Began's link, post #5) explains things a little better and the why and wherefore of it.
I don't think most of us have the actual knowledge of how these rules work to know if this is going to make things more or less fair for victims and the accused.
there are over 5,200 colleges & universities within the US. If someone is expelled from one educational institution, what precludes that person from going to one of the other 5,199 schools?
If he did nothing wrong why should he be expelled and forced to go to another school? What about his right to go to the school of his choice?Yes, if they were unfair. Since I am not working on campus in an office dealing with sexual assault, I really can't say. It sounds from what I read last year that some of the young men were being expelled from college without due process? That is not right, if that is what happened.
I advocate women being supported in the case of rape, regardless of where it happens. I don't advocate ruining a young man's education with accusations that are not properly looked into and confirmed.
The article (see Marty Began's link, post #5) explains things a little better and the why and wherefore of it.
I don't think most of us have the actual knowledge of how these rules work to know if this is going to make things more or less fair for victims and the accused.
there are over 5,200 colleges & universities within the US. If someone is expelled from one educational institution, what precludes that person from going to one of the other 5,199 schools?
If he did nothing wrong why should he be expelled and forced to go to another school? What about his right to go to the school of his choice?
the poster stated something to the effect of ruining someon's education; impossible. There are too many schools for that to happen.
So you’re seriously trying to arguing that if someone gets kicked out of Harvard based on an accusation and nothing else they won’t have their education ruined because they can go to Trump University?
So, you really think all it takes is an accusation. No investigation, nothing. How did you get this naive?
