Trump is putting coal workers out of work

[hadit]

Which we knew was going to happen no matter when or how you opened back up. It's a virus and when humans are in contact, it spreads. There's nothing new about that, and we knew from the beginning that it just didn't matter how long you maintained the shutdown. As soon as you lifted it there would be a surge in the number of new cases, so the only question left was how long we were willing to strangle the economy.

Look, everyone, it's the "Granny was gonna die anyway" strategy.

Hey, fuck Granny, Trump might get voted out.

If you want to hide in your house for the rest of your life, that's on you. But just know that you WILL be exposed to the virus.

 

[JoeB131]

If you want to hide in your house for the rest of your life, that's on you. But just know that you WILL be exposed to the virus.

Will I? Maybe we'll have a vaccine by then.

 

[hadit]

If you want to hide in your house for the rest of your life, that's on you. But just know that you WILL be exposed to the virus.

Will I? Maybe we'll have a vaccine by then.

If everyone hid until we had a vaccine, you would starve in your house long before you could come out. Why do you want everyone else to continue working so you can be supplied in isolation? And how long do you think UE is going to hold out so you can pay for your pizza? And yes, you will be exposed whenever you come out of hiding. What do you plan to do, have pharmacist come to your house to give you the shot?

We've never before isolated the healthy, only the sick, for good reason.

 

[JoeB131]

If everyone hid until we had a vaccine, you would starve in your house long before you could come out. Why do you want everyone else to continue working so you can be supplied in isolation? And how long do you think UE is going to hold out so you can pay for your pizza? And yes, you will be exposed whenever you come out of hiding. What do you plan to do, have pharmacist come to your house to give you the shot?

We've never before isolated the healthy, only the sick, for good reason.

The rich have plenty of money we can take back from them.

No worries, Covid will magically disappear once Trump is gone...

The problem is, of course, every other country did a lockdown early and completely.

It's why South Korea only had 300 deaths, they locked down, practiced social distancing and waited for the virus to pass.

Trump, of course, did the opposite of that. It's why we have the most cases, the most deaths, and the most economic devastation.

 

[hadit]

If everyone hid until we had a vaccine, you would starve in your house long before you could come out. Why do you want everyone else to continue working so you can be supplied in isolation? And how long do you think UE is going to hold out so you can pay for your pizza? And yes, you will be exposed whenever you come out of hiding. What do you plan to do, have pharmacist come to your house to give you the shot?

We've never before isolated the healthy, only the sick, for good reason.

The rich have plenty of money we can take back from them.

Oh, brother, that again. How are you going to take their money if you're afraid to leave your house? Do you believe that you're magically protected from the virus if you're self righteously setting fire to somebody's car? Here's a hint. At the first sign of anything like that, all the rich peoples' money disappears because they're not stupid and have places to put it where they can laugh at your feeble attempts to get it. Then you become the rich guy and see your house go up in flames because those who live in tents envy you.

No worries, Covid will magically disappear once Trump is gone...

Oh, absolutely the REPORTING on Covid will magically disappear should Quid Pro Joe manage to actually get elected. That's expected, because they're currently using it as a political football. All of a sudden, they'll be minimizing the virus and its effects, yelling at people to get out of their houses again.

The problem is, of course, every other country did a lockdown early and completely.

It's why South Korea only had 300 deaths, they locked down, practiced social distancing and waited for the virus to pass.

Trump, of course, did the opposite of that. It's why we have the most cases, the most deaths, and the most economic devastation.

Here's the thing. A virus like this doesn't "pass", any more than the flu "passes". It stays around and flares up again. Expect to hide in your house every year. And you will be exposed to the virus, it's inevitable.

 

[JoeB131]

Oh, brother, that again. How are you going to take their money if you're afraid to leave your house? Do you believe that you're magically protected from the virus if you're self righteously setting fire to somebody's car? Here's a hint. At the first sign of anything like that, all the rich peoples' money disappears because they're not stupid and have places to put it where they can laugh at your feeble attempts to get it. Then you become the rich guy and see your house go up in flames because those who live in tents envy you.

The rich don't have the power you think they have. If they did, they wouldn't spend so much money playing on your racial, religious and sexual fears to get you to keep voting their interests.

Oh, absolutely the REPORTING on Covid will magically disappear should Quid Pro Joe manage to actually get elected. That's expected, because they're currently using it as a political football. All of a sudden, they'll be minimizing the virus and its effects, yelling at people to get out of their houses again.

I was being sarcastic, but never mind. I know you all think this is a hoax to make Trump look like an idiot. Trump was in on it when he actually ACTED like an idiot on the Axios interview.

Here's the thing. A virus like this doesn't "pass", any more than the flu "passes". It stays around and flares up again. Expect to hide in your house every year. And you will be exposed to the virus, it's inevitable.

Again, South Korea handled it just fine. So did Japan, Germany, etc. They aren't suffering nearly as bad as we are.

Even the Italians are back in business again, because they took the harsh measures Trump refused to take.

 

[hadit]

Oh, brother, that again. How are you going to take their money if you're afraid to leave your house? Do you believe that you're magically protected from the virus if you're self righteously setting fire to somebody's car? Here's a hint. At the first sign of anything like that, all the rich peoples' money disappears because they're not stupid and have places to put it where they can laugh at your feeble attempts to get it. Then you become the rich guy and see your house go up in flames because those who live in tents envy you.

The rich don't have the power you think they have. If they did, they wouldn't spend so much money playing on your racial, religious and sexual fears to get you to keep voting their interests.

The rich are not stupid. If they can buy legislators, it doesn't matter how socialist a Senator pretends to be, once he gets into office, he ends up playing their game and dropping out of the race to keep Hillary happy and viola, he owns 5 houses. Those are the most effective, because they convince you rubes that they are gonna git dose rich guys, this time fer sher, and you eat it up every time.

Oh, absolutely the REPORTING on Covid will magically disappear should Quid Pro Joe manage to actually get elected. That's expected, because they're currently using it as a political football. All of a sudden, they'll be minimizing the virus and its effects, yelling at people to get out of their houses again.

I was being sarcastic, but never mind. I know you all think this is a hoax to make Trump look like an idiot. Trump was in on it when he actually ACTED like an idiot on the Axios interview.

And, as is normal for you, you know wrong. The virus is for real, people really do get sick and small percentage of them die. We have never, though, shut down the entire country over a virus that kills such a small percentage of those who get sick. The "hoax" is in the reaction. You know it's a political calculation when Churches, which pay few taxes, are shut down while liquor stores, which pay a lot of taxes, are kept open. You know it's a political calculation when you have to postpone surgery and dental visits but abortion clinics are kept open. You know it's a political calculation when politicians appear in public without masks while demanding that ordinary people have to wear them. You know it's a political calculation when they arrest a guy alone on a paddleboard with no one anywhere close to him. You know it's a political calculation when you can exercise on a beach but not walk on a beach. And on it goes.

Here's the thing. A virus like this doesn't "pass", any more than the flu "passes". It stays around and flares up again. Expect to hide in your house every year. And you will be exposed to the virus, it's inevitable.

Again, South Korea handled it just fine. So did Japan, Germany, etc. They aren't suffering nearly as bad as we are.

Even the Italians are back in business again, because they took the harsh measures Trump refused to take.

And we're getting back to business as well, despite the poor response by the state governors who wouldn't take their responsibility for their people, instead waiting for TRUMP! to tell them what to do.

 

[JoeB131]

The rich are not stupid. If they can buy legislators, it doesn't matter how socialist a Senator pretends to be, once he gets into office,

Blah, blah, blah.

I bet you were the kid who hung out with the School Bully, until he got his lights punched out and then you wanted to hang with the kid who punched his lights out.

And, as is normal for you, you know wrong. The virus is for real, people really do get sick and small percentage of them die. We have never, though, shut down the entire country over a virus that kills such a small percentage of those who get sick. The "hoax" is in the reaction. You know it's a political calculation when Churches, which pay few taxes, are shut down while liquor stores, which pay a lot of taxes, are kept open.

Not at all...

You keep the Liquor stores open because otherwise, you'd just have more people crowding into the grocery stores looking for booze.

A transaction in a Liquor store is short. Usually only a few people in there for a few minutes at a time.

A Church, on the other hand, you have hundreds of people in close proximity praying to their imaginary sky friend. It's a recipe for spreading contagion.

You know it's a political calculation when you have to postpone surgery and dental visits but abortion clinics are kept open.

Again- Abortion clinics- Time sensitive. Dentistry- not so much.

And we're getting back to business as well, despite the poor response by the state governors who wouldn't take their responsibility for their people, instead waiting for TRUMP! to tell them what to do.

Again, Trump's response was a disaster, and the governors did the best they could despite his lack of leadershp.

 

[hadit]

The rich are not stupid. If they can buy legislators, it doesn't matter how socialist a Senator pretends to be, once he gets into office,

Blah, blah, blah.

I bet you were the kid who hung out with the School Bully, until he got his lights punched out and then you wanted to hang with the kid who punched his lights out.

It's easy to see when you reach the end of your limited intellect.

And, as is normal for you, you know wrong. The virus is for real, people really do get sick and small percentage of them die. We have never, though, shut down the entire country over a virus that kills such a small percentage of those who get sick. The "hoax" is in the reaction. You know it's a political calculation when Churches, which pay few taxes, are shut down while liquor stores, which pay a lot of taxes, are kept open.

Not at all...

You keep the Liquor stores open because otherwise, you'd just have more people crowding into the grocery stores looking for booze.

A transaction in a Liquor store is short. Usually only a few people in there for a few minutes at a time.

A Church, on the other hand, you have hundreds of people in close proximity praying to their imaginary sky friend. It's a recipe for spreading contagion.

Oh, that's just precious. You actually believe it was something other than taxes and a power grab. Heck, they were trying to shut down Church services where everyone stayed in their own cars in the parking lot. IOW, practicing social distancing, but that wasn't good enough for the power grabbers who just wanted to shut them down.

You know it's a political calculation when you have to postpone surgery and dental visits but abortion clinics are kept open.

Again- Abortion clinics- Time sensitive. Dentistry- not so much.

Sure, sure. Can't have more babies actually be born and have a shot at life, now can we? Politics.

And we're getting back to business as well, despite the poor response by the state governors who wouldn't take their responsibility for their people, instead waiting for TRUMP! to tell them what to do.

Again, Trump's response was a disaster, and the governors did the best they could despite his lack of leadershp.

They did the best they could? Like having a hospital ship sent over (by TRUMP!) that sat empty while piling up the highest number of deaths? Sure, keep believing that. IOW, when you start complaining about the poor decisions by the governors, I MIGHT believe you actually mean it.

And you will be exposed to the virus. It's inevitable.

 

[JoeB131]

Oh, that's just precious. You actually believe it was something other than taxes and a power grab. Heck, they were trying to shut down Church services where everyone stayed in their own cars in the parking lot. IOW, practicing social distancing, but that wasn't good enough for the power grabbers who just wanted to shut them down.

Yes, I know it was sad. "I haven't grovelled in front of an Imaginary Sky Fairy for WEEKS.... I'm going into withdrawal, man!!!!

They did the best they could? Like having a hospital ship sent over (by TRUMP!) that sat empty while piling up the highest number of deaths?

Yes, Trump did fuck everything up, didn't he. "I sent a boat" That had really, no ability to treat this...but he sent a boat..

Meanwhile the Bodies are piling up in the Red States, where they listened to Trump on Masks and HCL.

 

[hadit]

Oh, that's just precious. You actually believe it was something other than taxes and a power grab. Heck, they were trying to shut down Church services where everyone stayed in their own cars in the parking lot. IOW, practicing social distancing, but that wasn't good enough for the power grabbers who just wanted to shut them down.

Yes, I know it was sad. "I haven't grovelled in front of an Imaginary Sky Fairy for WEEKS.... I'm going into withdrawal, man!!!!

Which, of course, does nothing to negate what I said. They were more interested in flexing their political muscles than they were in slowing the inevitable spread of the virus. Had they been truly interested in that, there would have been absolutely no problem with the Church service. Like I said, you know it's a political move when they do things like that.

They did the best they could? Like having a hospital ship sent over (by TRUMP!) that sat empty while piling up the highest number of deaths?

Yes, Trump did fuck everything up, didn't he. "I sent a boat" That had really, no ability to treat this...but he sent a boat..

Meanwhile the Bodies are piling up in the Red States, where they listened to Trump on Masks and HCL.

He sent a ship to give NY City more hospital beds, and they didn't use it. If they really needed the space, they would have used it, but did not. So, go ahead, try to convince me that Cuomo did a stellar job.

 

[JoeB131]

Which, of course, does nothing to negate what I said. They were more interested in flexing their political muscles than they were in slowing the inevitable spread of the virus. Had they been truly interested in that, there would have been absolutely no problem with the Church service. Like I said, you know it's a political move when they do things like that.

No, it was about slowing the virus. There's no NEED to go to church... In fact, we could tear down every church in the country and probably be better off for it.

It's an voluntary activity.

He sent a ship to give NY City more hospital beds, and they didn't use it.

because it wasn't useful. Those ships are designed to treat wounded in combat, not a mass plague. It's like all his actions- Useless or counter-productive. it's why we have the MOST deaths and MOST cases.

 

[hadit]

Which, of course, does nothing to negate what I said. They were more interested in flexing their political muscles than they were in slowing the inevitable spread of the virus. Had they been truly interested in that, there would have been absolutely no problem with the Church service. Like I said, you know it's a political move when they do things like that.

No, it was about slowing the virus. There's no NEED to go to church... In fact, we could tear down every church in the country and probably be better off for it.

It's an voluntary activity.

Irrelevant. The Church goers were in their cars. There was no need to shut it down.

He sent a ship to give NY City more hospital beds, and they didn't use it.

because it wasn't useful. Those ships are designed to treat wounded in combat, not a mass plague. It's like all his actions- Useless or counter-productive. it's why we have the MOST deaths and MOST cases.

It was extra beds, which they claimed they needed desperately. Guess not really.

 

[JoeB131]

It was extra beds, which they claimed they needed desperately. Guess not really.

Not useable, either

Irrelevant. The Church goers were in their cars. There was no need to shut it down.

There was also no need for them to meet...

 

[hadit]

It was extra beds, which they claimed they needed desperately. Guess not really.

Not useable, either

They needed bed space, they had extra bed space, they didn't use it. If it's not usable, why does the military have it?

Irrelevant. The Church goers were in their cars. There was no need to shut it down.

There was also no need for them to meet...

And no need to stop them. You have it backward, the people don't have to justify their actions to the government, the government has to justify any restrictions it places on the peoples' actions. In this case, there was no justification. Come on, you know that.

 

[JoeB131]

They needed bed space, they had extra bed space, they didn't use it. If it's not usable, why does the military have it?

Same reason they have lots of other crap that doesn't work.. you've obviously never been in the military.

And no need to stop them. You have it backward, the people don't have to justify their actions to the government, the government has to justify any restrictions it places on the peoples' actions. In this case, there was no justification. Come on, you know that.

Again, they were restricting the spread of the disease by limiting unneeded activities. There's no need to grovel in front of an Imaginary Sky Man.

 

[hadit]

They needed bed space, they had extra bed space, they didn't use it. If it's not usable, why does the military have it?

Same reason they have lots of other crap that doesn't work.. you've obviously never been in the military.

Link to why it wasn't usable?

And no need to stop them. You have it backward, the people don't have to justify their actions to the government, the government has to justify any restrictions it places on the peoples' actions. In this case, there was no justification. Come on, you know that.

Again, they were restricting the spread of the disease by limiting unneeded activities. There's no need to grovel in front of an Imaginary Sky Man.

No, people sitting in their own cars are not spreading the disease any more than they would sitting in their own homes. You're just happy to see someone trying to shut down Churches. The disease is just a smoke screen for you, because you would have had no problem with people going to a drive-in movie or going to an outdoors Quid Pro Joe rally and staying in their cars (all 5 of them, that is).

 

[JoeB131]

Link to why it wasn't usable?

I don't do links unless I feel like it.

No, people sitting in their own cars are not spreading the disease any more than they would sitting in their own homes. You're just happy to see someone trying to shut down Churches.

Oh, I'm always happy to see people shut down these centers for ignorance, superstition and bigotry... but in this case, it was necessary.

Of course, I have a great plan for reopening the Churches. We only let you reopen your church is you can prove you speak for God. Because God will protect your faithful from the Nasty Chinese Virus..

So we take you to the top of a tall building and throw you off the roof. If God catches you on the way down, we give you your permit.

 

[hadit]

Link to why it wasn't usable?

I don't do links unless I feel like it.

Okay, so you don't get to state that like it's fact any more. It's just you wishing it was true.

No, people sitting in their own cars are not spreading the disease any more than they would sitting in their own homes. You're just happy to see someone trying to shut down Churches.

Oh, I'm always happy to see people shut down these centers for ignorance, superstition and bigotry... but in this case, it was necessary.

Of course, I have a great plan for reopening the Churches. We only let you reopen your church is you can prove you speak for God. Because God will protect your faithful from the Nasty Chinese Virus..

So we take you to the top of a tall building and throw you off the roof. If God catches you on the way down, we give you your permit.

And you proved my point. There was no reason beyond a naked power grab to stop those people from gathering in their cars. You really make arguing here easy, did you know that? There's no need to even argue with you any further, because you've conceded every one of my points.

 

[JoeB131]

Okay, so you don't get to state that like it's fact any more. It's just you wishing it was true.

Sure I do. I just don't do your work for you.. I don't do links because you guys pretend you don't see them when I do them.

So no links unless I feel like doing them.