Trump has done an amazing job!!

[Roudy]

Meanwhile, Trump got more votes from women, Blacks, and Hispanics than either Romney or McCain. Like I said this playbook is no longer working.

1) Both Romney & McCain got a higher % of the women vote than Trump.

2) Trump got more black votes because he was not running against a black candidate.

3) McCain had a higher percentage of Hispanics than Trump.

Like I say, you really don't know shit about much of anything.

Well if what you're saying is even remotely true then Trump should hardly have gotten any women, Hispanics, or blacks. Instead he did phenomenally better than the Dems, the fake news media and their fake polls predicted. Which makes you just another dickhead leftie propagandist who can't deal with the truth.

Stupidity., ignorance, and feeble mindedness if found in all races & genders.

Dems have failed the races and genders. Fortunately, they haven't come to that realization, which is why the republicans will do even better in the next mid terms.

Clinton, an evil Democrat, balanced the budget. Bush, a wonderful Republican, took us to the worst recession in 80 years. Obama, an evil Democrat, brought us back with a record string of months with job growth. Trump, the dumbest person on the planet, will do worse than Bush - if he survives Russia-gate. Then Pence, if he survives Russiagate, will fuck us all.

Bzzzz wrong again, it was Clinton's ability to comprise with the Newt Gingrich's republican majority "contract with America" that balanced the budget. And years later the radical commie lefties took their revenge on Bill by ousting Hillary in 08 as the nominee, and replacing her with a radical named Hussein Obama who was left of left.

 

[RealDave]

1) Both Romney & McCain got a higher % of the women vote than Trump.

2) Trump got more black votes because he was not running against a black candidate.

3) McCain had a higher percentage of Hispanics than Trump.

Like I say, you really don't know shit about much of anything.

Well if what you're saying is even remotely true then Trump should hardly have gotten any women, Hispanics, or blacks. Instead he did phenomenally better than the Dems, the fake news media and their fake polls predicted. Which makes you just another dickhead leftie propagandist who can't deal with the truth.

Stupidity., ignorance, and feeble mindedness if found in all races & genders.

Dems have failed the races and genders. Fortunately, they haven't come to that realization, which is why the republicans will do even better in the next mid terms.

Clinton, an evil Democrat, balanced the budget. Bush, a wonderful Republican, took us to the worst recession in 80 years. Obama, an evil Democrat, brought us back with a record string of months with job growth. Trump, the dumbest person on the planet, will do worse than Bush - if he survives Russia-gate. Then Pence, if he survives Russiagate, will fuck us all.

Bzzzz wrong again, it was Clinton's ability to comprise with the Newt Gingrich's republican majority "contract with America" that balanced the budget. And years later the radical commie lefties took their revenge on Bill by ousting Hillary in 08 as the nominee, and replacing her with a radical named Hussein Obama who was left of left.

Clinton + Republican Congress = balanced budget

Bush + same Republican Congress = debt & destruction.

What changed?

Are your really sofa king dumb to say Bush did not negotiate with the Republican congress?

 

[Faun]

Well if what you're saying is even remotely true then Trump should hardly have gotten any women, Hispanics, or blacks. Instead he did phenomenally better than the Dems, the fake news media and their fake polls predicted. Which makes you just another dickhead leftie propagandist who can't deal with the truth.

Stupidity., ignorance, and feeble mindedness if found in all races & genders.

Dems have failed the races and genders. Fortunately, they haven't come to that realization, which is why the republicans will do even better in the next mid terms.

Clinton, an evil Democrat, balanced the budget. Bush, a wonderful Republican, took us to the worst recession in 80 years. Obama, an evil Democrat, brought us back with a record string of months with job growth. Trump, the dumbest person on the planet, will do worse than Bush - if he survives Russia-gate. Then Pence, if he survives Russiagate, will fuck us all.

Bzzzz wrong again, it was Clinton's ability to comprise with the Newt Gingrich's republican majority "contract with America" that balanced the budget. And years later the radical commie lefties took their revenge on Bill by ousting Hillary in 08 as the nominee, and replacing her with a radical named Hussein Obama who was left of left.

Clinton + Republican Congress = balanced budget

Bush + same Republican Congress = debt & destruction.

What changed?

Are your really sofa king dumb to say Bush did not negotiate with the Republican congress?

Conservatives live in a demented universe. They also fail to recognize the deficit began to drop before Republicans took over Congress.

 

[Roudy]

Well if what you're saying is even remotely true then Trump should hardly have gotten any women, Hispanics, or blacks. Instead he did phenomenally better than the Dems, the fake news media and their fake polls predicted. Which makes you just another dickhead leftie propagandist who can't deal with the truth.

Stupidity., ignorance, and feeble mindedness if found in all races & genders.

Dems have failed the races and genders. Fortunately, they haven't come to that realization, which is why the republicans will do even better in the next mid terms.

Clinton, an evil Democrat, balanced the budget. Bush, a wonderful Republican, took us to the worst recession in 80 years. Obama, an evil Democrat, brought us back with a record string of months with job growth. Trump, the dumbest person on the planet, will do worse than Bush - if he survives Russia-gate. Then Pence, if he survives Russiagate, will fuck us all.

Bzzzz wrong again, it was Clinton's ability to comprise with the Newt Gingrich's republican majority "contract with America" that balanced the budget. And years later the radical commie lefties took their revenge on Bill by ousting Hillary in 08 as the nominee, and replacing her with a radical named Hussein Obama who was left of left.

Clinton + Republican Congress = balanced budget

Bush + same Republican Congress = debt & destruction.

What changed?

Are your really sofa king dumb to say Bush did not negotiate with the Republican congress?

Bzzz wrong again, the economy was doing well under Bush, until the shady loans the Democrats forced the banks to give, blew up. Just more false fake news by the Dems and their lapdogs in the media.

New Study Confirms Economy Was Destroyed by Dem Policies

The Cause of the 2008 Financial Crisis

Senate Democrats demanded that Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac (FM&FM) buy more of these risky loans to help the poor. Since the mortgages purchased and guaranteed by FM&FM are backed by the U.S. government, the loans were re-sold primarily to investment banks which in turn bundled most of them, taking a hefty fee, and sold the mortgages to investors all over the world as virtually risk free.

 

[Roudy]

Stupidity., ignorance, and feeble mindedness if found in all races & genders.

Dems have failed the races and genders. Fortunately, they haven't come to that realization, which is why the republicans will do even better in the next mid terms.

Clinton, an evil Democrat, balanced the budget. Bush, a wonderful Republican, took us to the worst recession in 80 years. Obama, an evil Democrat, brought us back with a record string of months with job growth. Trump, the dumbest person on the planet, will do worse than Bush - if he survives Russia-gate. Then Pence, if he survives Russiagate, will fuck us all.

Bzzzz wrong again, it was Clinton's ability to comprise with the Newt Gingrich's republican majority "contract with America" that balanced the budget. And years later the radical commie lefties took their revenge on Bill by ousting Hillary in 08 as the nominee, and replacing her with a radical named Hussein Obama who was left of left.

Clinton + Republican Congress = balanced budget

Bush + same Republican Congress = debt & destruction.

What changed?

Are your really sofa king dumb to say Bush did not negotiate with the Republican congress?

Conservatives live in a demented universe. They also fail to recognize the deficit began to drop before Republicans took over Congress.

Actually when Bush took office he was dealing with Clinton's busted dot.com bubble. How quickly lefties forget their own shortcomings.

Dot-com bubble - Wikipedia

The collapse of the bubble took place during 1999–2001. Some companies, such as pets.com and Webvan, failed completely. Others – such as Cisco, whose stock declined by 86% – lost a large portion of their market capitalization but remained stable and profitable. Some, such as eBay.com, later recovered and even surpassed their dot-com-bubble peaks. The stock of Amazon.com came to exceed $700 per share, for example, after having gone from $107 to $7 in the crash.[4]

 

[Faun]

Stupidity., ignorance, and feeble mindedness if found in all races & genders.

Dems have failed the races and genders. Fortunately, they haven't come to that realization, which is why the republicans will do even better in the next mid terms.

Clinton, an evil Democrat, balanced the budget. Bush, a wonderful Republican, took us to the worst recession in 80 years. Obama, an evil Democrat, brought us back with a record string of months with job growth. Trump, the dumbest person on the planet, will do worse than Bush - if he survives Russia-gate. Then Pence, if he survives Russiagate, will fuck us all.

Bzzzz wrong again, it was Clinton's ability to comprise with the Newt Gingrich's republican majority "contract with America" that balanced the budget. And years later the radical commie lefties took their revenge on Bill by ousting Hillary in 08 as the nominee, and replacing her with a radical named Hussein Obama who was left of left.

Clinton + Republican Congress = balanced budget

Bush + same Republican Congress = debt & destruction.

What changed?

Are your really sofa king dumb to say Bush did not negotiate with the Republican congress?

Bzzz wrong again, the economy was doing well under Bush, until the shady loans the Democrats forced the banks to give, blew up.

New Study Confirms Economy Was Destroyed by Dem Policies

And by "doing well," you means lenders doling out millions of toxic loans that would eventually crater the economy.

 

[Faun]

Dems have failed the races and genders. Fortunately, they haven't come to that realization, which is why the republicans will do even better in the next mid terms.

Clinton, an evil Democrat, balanced the budget. Bush, a wonderful Republican, took us to the worst recession in 80 years. Obama, an evil Democrat, brought us back with a record string of months with job growth. Trump, the dumbest person on the planet, will do worse than Bush - if he survives Russia-gate. Then Pence, if he survives Russiagate, will fuck us all.

Bzzzz wrong again, it was Clinton's ability to comprise with the Newt Gingrich's republican majority "contract with America" that balanced the budget. And years later the radical commie lefties took their revenge on Bill by ousting Hillary in 08 as the nominee, and replacing her with a radical named Hussein Obama who was left of left.

Clinton + Republican Congress = balanced budget

Bush + same Republican Congress = debt & destruction.

What changed?

Are your really sofa king dumb to say Bush did not negotiate with the Republican congress?

Conservatives live in a demented universe. They also fail to recognize the deficit began to drop before Republicans took over Congress.

Actually when Bush took office he was dealing with Clinton's busted dot.com bubble. How quickly lefties forget their own shortcomings.

That was pretty mild. The NBER says if not for 9.11, there probably wouldn't have even been a recession in 2001.

But you have to be pretty fucking brain-dead to compare the 2001 recession with the mess Bush left for Obama.

 

[Roudy]

Dems have failed the races and genders. Fortunately, they haven't come to that realization, which is why the republicans will do even better in the next mid terms.

Clinton, an evil Democrat, balanced the budget. Bush, a wonderful Republican, took us to the worst recession in 80 years. Obama, an evil Democrat, brought us back with a record string of months with job growth. Trump, the dumbest person on the planet, will do worse than Bush - if he survives Russia-gate. Then Pence, if he survives Russiagate, will fuck us all.

Bzzzz wrong again, it was Clinton's ability to comprise with the Newt Gingrich's republican majority "contract with America" that balanced the budget. And years later the radical commie lefties took their revenge on Bill by ousting Hillary in 08 as the nominee, and replacing her with a radical named Hussein Obama who was left of left.

Clinton + Republican Congress = balanced budget

Bush + same Republican Congress = debt & destruction.

What changed?

Are your really sofa king dumb to say Bush did not negotiate with the Republican congress?

Bzzz wrong again, the economy was doing well under Bush, until the shady loans the Democrats forced the banks to give, blew up.

New Study Confirms Economy Was Destroyed by Dem Policies

And by "doing well," you means lenders doling out millions of toxic loans that would eventually crater the economy.

Toxic loans forced by the Democrats, get it right.

 

[Roudy]

Clinton, an evil Democrat, balanced the budget. Bush, a wonderful Republican, took us to the worst recession in 80 years. Obama, an evil Democrat, brought us back with a record string of months with job growth. Trump, the dumbest person on the planet, will do worse than Bush - if he survives Russia-gate. Then Pence, if he survives Russiagate, will fuck us all.

Bzzzz wrong again, it was Clinton's ability to comprise with the Newt Gingrich's republican majority "contract with America" that balanced the budget. And years later the radical commie lefties took their revenge on Bill by ousting Hillary in 08 as the nominee, and replacing her with a radical named Hussein Obama who was left of left.

Clinton + Republican Congress = balanced budget

Bush + same Republican Congress = debt & destruction.

What changed?

Are your really sofa king dumb to say Bush did not negotiate with the Republican congress?

Conservatives live in a demented universe. They also fail to recognize the deficit began to drop before Republicans took over Congress.

Actually when Bush took office he was dealing with Clinton's busted dot.com bubble. How quickly lefties forget their own shortcomings.

That was pretty mild. The NBER says if not for 9.11, there probably wouldn't have even been a recession in 2001.

But you have to be pretty fucking brain-dead to compare the 2001 recession with the mess Bush left for Obama.

The mess Democrats caused and used the media to blame Bush.

 

[Faun]

Clinton, an evil Democrat, balanced the budget. Bush, a wonderful Republican, took us to the worst recession in 80 years. Obama, an evil Democrat, brought us back with a record string of months with job growth. Trump, the dumbest person on the planet, will do worse than Bush - if he survives Russia-gate. Then Pence, if he survives Russiagate, will fuck us all.

Bzzzz wrong again, it was Clinton's ability to comprise with the Newt Gingrich's republican majority "contract with America" that balanced the budget. And years later the radical commie lefties took their revenge on Bill by ousting Hillary in 08 as the nominee, and replacing her with a radical named Hussein Obama who was left of left.

Clinton + Republican Congress = balanced budget

Bush + same Republican Congress = debt & destruction.

What changed?

Are your really sofa king dumb to say Bush did not negotiate with the Republican congress?

Bzzz wrong again, the economy was doing well under Bush, until the shady loans the Democrats forced the banks to give, blew up.

New Study Confirms Economy Was Destroyed by Dem Policies

And by "doing well," you means lenders doling out millions of toxic loans that would eventually crater the economy.

Toxic loans forced by the Democrats, get it right.

Nope. Too retarded. No one forced lenders to give out toxic loans. They did that themselves out of greed.

 

[Faun]

Bzzzz wrong again, it was Clinton's ability to comprise with the Newt Gingrich's republican majority "contract with America" that balanced the budget. And years later the radical commie lefties took their revenge on Bill by ousting Hillary in 08 as the nominee, and replacing her with a radical named Hussein Obama who was left of left.

Clinton + Republican Congress = balanced budget

Bush + same Republican Congress = debt & destruction.

What changed?

Are your really sofa king dumb to say Bush did not negotiate with the Republican congress?

Conservatives live in a demented universe. They also fail to recognize the deficit began to drop before Republicans took over Congress.

Actually when Bush took office he was dealing with Clinton's busted dot.com bubble. How quickly lefties forget their own shortcomings.

That was pretty mild. The NBER says if not for 9.11, there probably wouldn't have even been a recession in 2001.

But you have to be pretty fucking brain-dead to compare the 2001 recession with the mess Bush left for Obama.

The mess Democrats caused and used the media to blame Bush.

What are you talking about? Bush took the blame for that.

 

[RealDave]

Clinton, an evil Democrat, balanced the budget. Bush, a wonderful Republican, took us to the worst recession in 80 years. Obama, an evil Democrat, brought us back with a record string of months with job growth. Trump, the dumbest person on the planet, will do worse than Bush - if he survives Russia-gate. Then Pence, if he survives Russiagate, will fuck us all.

Bzzzz wrong again, it was Clinton's ability to comprise with the Newt Gingrich's republican majority "contract with America" that balanced the budget. And years later the radical commie lefties took their revenge on Bill by ousting Hillary in 08 as the nominee, and replacing her with a radical named Hussein Obama who was left of left.

Clinton + Republican Congress = balanced budget

Bush + same Republican Congress = debt & destruction.

What changed?

Are your really sofa king dumb to say Bush did not negotiate with the Republican congress?

Bzzz wrong again, the economy was doing well under Bush, until the shady loans the Democrats forced the banks to give, blew up.

New Study Confirms Economy Was Destroyed by Dem Policies

And by "doing well," you means lenders doling out millions of toxic loans that would eventually crater the economy.

Toxic loans forced by the Democrats, get it right.

Funny chit coming from the party that deregulated the banking industry.


I assume that you, being such a freakin dick, are taling about the CRA that forced no bank to make any toxic loans.

 

[airplanemechanic]

It's refreshing to see a politician start fulfilling his / her campaign promises from day one that he takes office. Wait until he starts running on all cylinders when his cabinet is fully in place, and the thousands of govt. jobs are filled, There is a reason the stock market is going crazy, they are anticipating big, very positive changes.

It is unusual to see an uninformed imbecile hacking up Bold Assertions.....

no....wait.....this is USMB........

never mind....

There is a reason the stock market is going crazy, they are anticipating big, very positive changes


What happened to the stock market between 2009 and 2016?

Roughly......

What happened to the stock market between November 8th and today, roughly?

Hint: The most record closes since 1987 since Trump was elected.

 

[TooTall]

By this time, Obama had signed legislation that help end the Bush recession & put us on the path of constant job growth.

Trump has done nothing.

He has created a "papers please" environmenmt with his military actions for deportation.

CBT were asking travelers on a domestic flight to prove citizenship. Trump well on the ewasy to make us Nazi Germany.

I don't call that an accomplishment.

Who signed legislation to end the recession?

The Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 (Division A of Pub.L. 110–343, 122 Stat. 3765, enacted October 3, 2008), commonly referred to as a bailout of the U.S. financial system, is a law enacted in response to the subprime mortgage crisis authorizing the United States Secretary of the Treasury to spend up to $700 billion to purchase distressed assets, especially mortgage-backed securities, and supply cash directly to banks. The funds for purchase of distressed assets were mostly redirected to inject capital into banks and other financial institutions while the Treasury continued to examine the usefulness of targeted asset purchases.[1][2] Both foreign and domestic banks are included in the program. The Act was proposed by Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson during the global financial crisis of 2008 and signed into law by President George W. Bush on October 3, 2008.

 

[Faun]

It's refreshing to see a politician start fulfilling his / her campaign promises from day one that he takes office. Wait until he starts running on all cylinders when his cabinet is fully in place, and the thousands of govt. jobs are filled, There is a reason the stock market is going crazy, they are anticipating big, very positive changes.

It is unusual to see an uninformed imbecile hacking up Bold Assertions.....

no....wait.....this is USMB........

never mind....

There is a reason the stock market is going crazy, they are anticipating big, very positive changes


What happened to the stock market between 2009 and 2016?

Roughly......

What happened to the stock market between November 8th and today, roughly?

Hint: The most record closes since 1987 since Trump was elected.

Here's s better hint... you're an idiot to believe that. Did you make it up or did you read it some where?

 

[Roudy]

Bzzzz wrong again, it was Clinton's ability to comprise with the Newt Gingrich's republican majority "contract with America" that balanced the budget. And years later the radical commie lefties took their revenge on Bill by ousting Hillary in 08 as the nominee, and replacing her with a radical named Hussein Obama who was left of left.

Clinton + Republican Congress = balanced budget

Bush + same Republican Congress = debt & destruction.

What changed?

Are your really sofa king dumb to say Bush did not negotiate with the Republican congress?

Bzzz wrong again, the economy was doing well under Bush, until the shady loans the Democrats forced the banks to give, blew up.

New Study Confirms Economy Was Destroyed by Dem Policies

And by "doing well," you means lenders doling out millions of toxic loans that would eventually crater the economy.

Toxic loans forced by the Democrats, get it right.

Nope. Too retarded. No one forced lenders to give out toxic loans. They did that themselves out of greed.

Wrong again:

The Cause of the 2008 Financial Crisis

Senate Democrats demanded that Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac (FM&FM) buy more of these risky loans to help the poor. Since the mortgages purchased and guaranteed by FM&FM are backed by the U.S. government, the loans were re-sold primarily to investment banks which in turn bundled most of them, taking a hefty fee, and sold the mortgages to investors all over the world as virtually risk free.

 

[Roudy]

By this time, Obama had signed legislation that help end the Bush recession & put us on the path of constant job growth.

Trump has done nothing.

He has created a "papers please" environmenmt with his military actions for deportation.

CBT were asking travelers on a domestic flight to prove citizenship. Trump well on the ewasy to make us Nazi Germany.

I don't call that an accomplishment.

Who signed legislation to end the recession?

The Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 (Division A of Pub.L. 110–343, 122 Stat. 3765, enacted October 3, 2008), commonly referred to as a bailout of the U.S. financial system, is a law enacted in response to the subprime mortgage crisis authorizing the United States Secretary of the Treasury to spend up to $700 billion to purchase distressed assets, especially mortgage-backed securities, and supply cash directly to banks. The funds for purchase of distressed assets were mostly redirected to inject capital into banks and other financial institutions while the Treasury continued to examine the usefulness of targeted asset purchases.[1][2] Both foreign and domestic banks are included in the program. The Act was proposed by Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson during the global financial crisis of 2008 and signed into law by President George W. Bush on October 3, 2008.

Yup. Bush saved the country from the blunder caused by the Democrats, then the Dems used the media to pin the blame on him.

 

[Roudy]

Clinton + Republican Congress = balanced budget

Bush + same Republican Congress = debt & destruction.

What changed?

Are your really sofa king dumb to say Bush did not negotiate with the Republican congress?

Conservatives live in a demented universe. They also fail to recognize the deficit began to drop before Republicans took over Congress.

Actually when Bush took office he was dealing with Clinton's busted dot.com bubble. How quickly lefties forget their own shortcomings.

That was pretty mild. The NBER says if not for 9.11, there probably wouldn't have even been a recession in 2001.

But you have to be pretty fucking brain-dead to compare the 2001 recession with the mess Bush left for Obama.

The mess Democrats caused and used the media to blame Bush.

What are you talking about? Bush took the blame for that.

link?

 

[Faun]

By this time, Obama had signed legislation that help end the Bush recession & put us on the path of constant job growth.

Trump has done nothing.

He has created a "papers please" environmenmt with his military actions for deportation.

CBT were asking travelers on a domestic flight to prove citizenship. Trump well on the ewasy to make us Nazi Germany.

I don't call that an accomplishment.

Who signed legislation to end the recession?

The Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 (Division A of Pub.L. 110–343, 122 Stat. 3765, enacted October 3, 2008), commonly referred to as a bailout of the U.S. financial system, is a law enacted in response to the subprime mortgage crisis authorizing the United States Secretary of the Treasury to spend up to $700 billion to purchase distressed assets, especially mortgage-backed securities, and supply cash directly to banks. The funds for purchase of distressed assets were mostly redirected to inject capital into banks and other financial institutions while the Treasury continued to examine the usefulness of targeted asset purchases.[1][2] Both foreign and domestic banks are included in the program. The Act was proposed by Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson during the global financial crisis of 2008 and signed into law by President George W. Bush on October 3, 2008.

Yep, Bush signed it alright.

TARP Bailout Was a Massive Failure

 

[Roudy]

Bzzzz wrong again, it was Clinton's ability to comprise with the Newt Gingrich's republican majority "contract with America" that balanced the budget. And years later the radical commie lefties took their revenge on Bill by ousting Hillary in 08 as the nominee, and replacing her with a radical named Hussein Obama who was left of left.

Clinton + Republican Congress = balanced budget

Bush + same Republican Congress = debt & destruction.

What changed?

Are your really sofa king dumb to say Bush did not negotiate with the Republican congress?

Bzzz wrong again, the economy was doing well under Bush, until the shady loans the Democrats forced the banks to give, blew up.

New Study Confirms Economy Was Destroyed by Dem Policies

And by "doing well," you means lenders doling out millions of toxic loans that would eventually crater the economy.

Toxic loans forced by the Democrats, get it right.

Funny chit coming from the party that deregulated the banking industry.


I assume that you, being such a freakin dick, are taling about the CRA that forced no bank to make any toxic loans.

now you're just talking out of your ignorant leftie ass. The 2008 crisis was manufactured by dirtbag Dems:

The Cause of the 2008 Financial Crisis

Why would banks make such risky loans? The answer is that the Clinton administration pressured the banks to help poor people become homeowners, a noble liberal idea. Also the Clinton Justice Department threatened banks with lawsuits and fines ($10,000 per application) for redlining (discrimination) if they did not make these loans. Also ACORN (Obama’s community service organization) was instrumental in providing borrowers and pressuring the banks to make these loans.

To allow Fannie Mae to make more loans, President Clinton also reduced Fannie Mae’s reserve requirement to 2.5%. That means it could purchase and/or guarantee $97.50 in mortgages for every $2.50 it had in equity to cover possible bad debts. If more than 2.5% of the loans go bad, the taxpayers (us) have to pay for them. That is what this bailout is all about. It is not the government paying the banks for the bad loans, it is us!!