Trump freezes Palestinian Authorities BANK ACCOUNTS

[Coyote]

They also stopped all funding to Jerusalem hospitals that serve Palestinians.

But that's ethically ok apparently.

That is ugly on Trump's part, but the PA's incitement and refusal to come to the table to negotiate is as well.

Trump freezes funding to east Jerusalem hospitals

Mind you, I do not condone this move. But it is not Israel doing it, it is the American Administration.

Believe me that just as there are European and other countries stepping up to fund UNWRA after the US stopped any funding of that organization, there will be countries and other organizations (including Israel, which always helps the Palestinians with health care ) willing to fund those hospitals to make sure that no job or patient has to suffer because of it.

Looks like we kind of posted at the same time. Yes, it's the US doing it, and it's very ugly.

Two sides need to come to the table. Only one is being pressured in an abhorent way.

Oh, those poor Palestinian leaders.
They are being pressured to do something so abhorrent to them like.....sitting across Jews and actually negotiating a Peace treaty.

As if they would accept ANY peace treaty, at all.

2000?

2008?

Does it ring a bell?

Attacking hospitals and medical treatment is disgusting. That is not the way conduct a peace process or facilitate negotations.

Is Israel giving up any of IT'S preconditions for peace? Or is it only the Palestinians who are being pressured to do so?

 

[Sixties Fan]

[ This is the BDS movement as the Palestinians see it.
Boycott Israel, boycott any offers made, boycott, boycott]

Abbas couldn’t make peace with the Jews; he believes his own lies about us

 

[Uncensored2008]

They also stopped all funding to Jerusalem hospitals that serve Palestinians.

But that's ethically ok apparently.

That is ugly on Trump's part, but the PA's incitement and refusal to come to the table to negotiate is as well.

Trump freezes funding to east Jerusalem hospitals

Mind you, I do not condone this move. But it is not Israel doing it, it is the American Administration.

Believe me that just as there are European and other countries stepping up to fund UNWRA after the US stopped any funding of that organization, there will be countries and other organizations (including Israel, which always helps the Palestinians with health care ) willing to fund those hospitals to make sure that no job or patient has to suffer because of it.

Looks like we kind of posted at the same time. Yes, it's the US doing it, and it's very ugly.

Two sides need to come to the table. Only one is being pressured in an abhorent way.

Oh, those poor Palestinian leaders.
They are being pressured to do something so abhorrent to them like.....sitting across Jews and actually negotiating a Peace treaty.

As if they would accept ANY peace treaty, at all.

2000?

2008?

Does it ring a bell?

Attacking hospitals and medical treatment is disgusting. That is not the way conduct a peace process or facilitate negotations.

Is Israel giving up any of IT'S preconditions for peace? Or is it only the Palestinians who are being pressured to do so?

Of course that never happened.

Trump froze American funds to your terrorist allies.

Period.

Not a word about targeting medical care or anything else.

You and the rest of the terrorist promoting democrats are just lying, as always.

 

[Coyote]

They also stopped all funding to Jerusalem hospitals that serve Palestinians.

But that's ethically ok apparently.

Do I really need to look up why the funding for those hospitals were stopped? You cannot do it yourself?
Ok. Just give me some time.
Oh, and they stopped funding the Arab schools in Jerusalem as well. Do you know why?

Probably because...like the Israeli schools...they presented an inaccurate history of events.

Here you go:
New Cuts In Medical Aid To Palestinians By Trump Administration
Trump freezes funding to east Jerusalem hospitals

Now, explain please how this is justified? It's one sided pressure that hurts the most vulnerable.

And you are simply assuming that Israel was ok with the defunding of the Palestinian hospitals.

Why is that?

Because Trump and Netanyahu seem to be very close.

 

[Coyote]

Oh and what the hell? More defunding, and this time - for programs that actually have some value!

US reallocating West Bank-Israel coexistence funds to Arab-Jewish programs

The United States on Sunday confirmed it has cut additional aid to the Palestinians for programs supporting conflict resolution with Israelis, adding to more than $500 million in other cuts.

The latest cuts come from $10 million in programs on reconciliation involving Palestinians as well as Jewish and Arab Israelis.

The portion of the money involving Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip was being redirected to programs between Jewish and Arab Israelis, a US Embassy official said.

....The official said the portion involving Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza would be used “to enhance” programs in Israel instead.

 

[Uncensored2008]

They also stopped all funding to Jerusalem hospitals that serve Palestinians.

But that's ethically ok apparently.

Do I really need to look up why the funding for those hospitals were stopped? You cannot do it yourself?
Ok. Just give me some time.
Oh, and they stopped funding the Arab schools in Jerusalem as well. Do you know why?

Probably because...like the Israeli schools...they presented an inaccurate history of events.

Here you go:
New Cuts In Medical Aid To Palestinians By Trump Administration
Trump freezes funding to east Jerusalem hospitals

Now, explain please how this is justified? It's one sided pressure that hurts the most vulnerable.

And you are simply assuming that Israel was ok with the defunding of the Palestinian hospitals.

Why is that?

Because Trump and Netanyahu seem to be very close.

Israel is the closest and most reliable ally America has.

You hate both nations and support the terrorist enemies of the two nations.

 

[Sixties Fan]

They also stopped all funding to Jerusalem hospitals that serve Palestinians.

But that's ethically ok apparently.

That is ugly on Trump's part, but the PA's incitement and refusal to come to the table to negotiate is as well.

Trump freezes funding to east Jerusalem hospitals

Mind you, I do not condone this move. But it is not Israel doing it, it is the American Administration.

Believe me that just as there are European and other countries stepping up to fund UNWRA after the US stopped any funding of that organization, there will be countries and other organizations (including Israel, which always helps the Palestinians with health care ) willing to fund those hospitals to make sure that no job or patient has to suffer because of it.

Looks like we kind of posted at the same time. Yes, it's the US doing it, and it's very ugly.

Two sides need to come to the table. Only one is being pressured in an abhorent way.

Oh, those poor Palestinian leaders.
They are being pressured to do something so abhorrent to them like.....sitting across Jews and actually negotiating a Peace treaty.

As if they would accept ANY peace treaty, at all.

2000?

2008?

Does it ring a bell?

Attacking hospitals and medical treatment is disgusting. That is not the way conduct a peace process or facilitate negotations.

Is Israel giving up any of IT'S preconditions for peace? Or is it only the Palestinians who are being pressured to do so?

Israel has never had any preconditions and has asked the Palestinians to come to the table the same way.

 

[The Purge]

They also stopped all funding to Jerusalem hospitals that serve Palestinians.

But that's ethically ok apparently.

Do I really need to look up why the funding for those hospitals were stopped? You cannot do it yourself?
Ok. Just give me some time.
Oh, and they stopped funding the Arab schools in Jerusalem as well. Do you know why?

Probably because...like the Israeli schools...they presented an inaccurate history of events.

Here you go:
New Cuts In Medical Aid To Palestinians By Trump Administration
Trump freezes funding to east Jerusalem hospitals

Now, explain please how this is justified? It's one sided pressure that hurts the most vulnerable.

And you are simply assuming that Israel was ok with the defunding of the Palestinian hospitals.

Why is that?

Because Trump and Netanyahu seem to be very close.

Obama admin. sent taxpayer money to campaign to oust Netanyahu - Washington Times
Washington Times › news › jul › obama-...
Jul 12, 2016 · President Obama meets with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin ... to build a campaign to oust Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in last

 

[Uncensored2008]

Oh and what the hell? More defunding, and this time - for programs that actually have some value!

US reallocating West Bank-Israel coexistence funds to Arab-Jewish programs

The United States on Sunday confirmed it has cut additional aid to the Palestinians for programs supporting conflict resolution with Israelis, adding to more than $500 million in other cuts.

The latest cuts come from $10 million in programs on reconciliation involving Palestinians as well as Jewish and Arab Israelis.

The portion of the money involving Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip was being redirected to programs between Jewish and Arab Israelis, a US Embassy official said.

Good.

America has no business supporting your terrorist allies.

 

[Sixties Fan]

The PLO:

Today, the PLO continues to exist; however, most of its leaders have now become top Fatah officials in the Palestinian Authority. Fatah-related militia groups, such as the Tanzim, Force 17 and the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade played a leading role in Palestinian violence during the Second Intifada, including suicide terrorist attacks, ambushes, and shootings of Israeli vehicles and facilities.

With the death of Arafat in November 2004, Mahmoud Abbas, a long-time secretary general of the PLO, became the new Chairman of the PLO and was subsequently elected President of the Palestinian Authority.

Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO)


In what way is Abbas, now President of "Palestine State" not responsible for any and all incitement of his people against Jews and Israel, and all the attacks and deaths which continue to occur?

 

[Sixties Fan]

Oh and what the hell? More defunding, and this time - for programs that actually have some value!

US reallocating West Bank-Israel coexistence funds to Arab-Jewish programs

The United States on Sunday confirmed it has cut additional aid to the Palestinians for programs supporting conflict resolution with Israelis, adding to more than $500 million in other cuts.

The latest cuts come from $10 million in programs on reconciliation involving Palestinians as well as Jewish and Arab Israelis.

The portion of the money involving Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip was being redirected to programs between Jewish and Arab Israelis, a US Embassy official said.

Good.

America has no business supporting your terrorist allies.

Coyote is not an ally of terrorists.
Is simply not capable of seeing the difference between Israel and the Arab/Muslim world when it comes to the issues surrounding that disputed territories.

So, no need to keep attacking Coyote this way.

Thank you.

 

[idb]

Huge win for Trump, and for Israel. No more money for Jew and American killers! HUGE WIN!!!!?

The United States is intensifying its pressure on the Palestinian Authority (PA). The Al-Jazeera network reported on Sunday evening that the US administration has decided to immediately close all bank accounts linked to the PA or the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) in banks across the United States.

The US is not confirming the report at the moment, but the State Department hinted last week after the closure of the PLO’s mission in Washington that there would be further steps against the Palestinian Arabs.

Earlier on Sunday, the Lebanon-based Al-Mayadeen television reported that the US ordered the PLO envoy to the US, Husam Zomlot, out of the country.

According to the report, the visas for Zomlot and his family were cancelled, their US bank accounts were closed, and he was ordered to leave.

“The American authorities cancelled my visa and my family’s visa,” said Zomlot, “and closed our bank accounts. We’ve been ordered to leave Washington immediately.” …

(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...

So, what is the WH hoping to achieve?
I'm confident that they have a well thought-out strategic plan.

 

[Coyote]

Trump has no Middle East plan - all he believes in is punishing people into submission.

Reshaping US aid to the Palestinians

The Trump administration continues to speak of its Middle East peace plan. In a pre-Rosh Hashanah phone call with rabbis and Jewish leaders last Thursday, President Trump said: "I stopped massive amounts of money that we were paying to the Palestinians and the Palestinian leaders. If we don’t make a deal, we’re not paying. I said to some of the past negotiators. ‘Did you ever do that before? Did you ever use the money angle?’ They said, ‘No, sir. We thought it would be disrespectful.’ I said, ‘I don’t think it’s disrespectful at all’ ... And I really do believe we’re going to make a deal."

Yet, the context for the “ultimate deal” could not be worse.​

Yet this same article brings up some interesting ideas - some damn good ideas on how to alter the aid given to the Palestinians so it is more effective:

With prospects for diplomacy dim, with the need to change reality on the ground to restore a sense of possibility, and with past lessons showing that assistance should be used to promote development and reduce Israeli-Palestinian friction, we propose three recommendations for Congress to reprogram the $200 million fiscal 2018 monies to create a more stable economic, political and security environment in Gaza and the West Bank:

First, use that assistance to take water off the negotiating table. In the not too distant past, water negotiations were zero-sum, given the limited supply of water between the Mediterranean and Jordan River. Now, due to technological gains in water desalination, water use and reuse, water negotiations are no longer binary trade-offs. Instead, they can focus on the much simpler challenges of distribution and pricing.

What could this mean in practice? U.S. assistance in Gaza can fund a small solar field to power the existing Gaza Wastewater Treatment Plant, build up the community-based solar desalination units piloted by MIT, expand the UNICEF solar-fuel facility in Gaza’s Khan Younis neighborhood, initiate additional phases of the World Bank-funded North Gaza Emergency Sanitation Treatment plant, and repair water infrastructure degraded by three wars. Water also is directly linked to electricity; progress in water and sanitation will yield a better, more predictable power supply. There is real potential for small-scale, renewable power throughout Gaza, supplying energy at the community level while minimizing the risk of disruption historically associated with Gaza’s power plant.

Second, U.S. assistance should be used to substantially expand trade between Palestinians and Israelis. Consider the northern West Bank city of Jenin: Israel decided 15 years ago that if it opened a crossing point so Israeli Arabs could shop in the West Bank, it would be a stabilizer, even though the Second Intifada rebellion was ongoing. That calculation was successful; increased Palestinian trade has reduced unemployment in the northern West Bank from reportedly 50 percent in 2003 to below 20 percent now. These robust trading channels have opened sustainable opportunities for small and medium-sized businesses, improved local governance and fostered broad-based security for Palestinians and Israelis alike. In 2003, Jenin was the center for suicide bombers during the peak of the Second Intifada but now is one of the more successful Palestinian cities.

The Jenin model is replicable. American aid can help establish similar trading zones in the West Bank city of Qalqilya where Palestinian traders, shopkeepers and small businesses can sell directly to the large Israeli Arab community a few miles away. The Jenin model also can work in Gaza: Palestinian textile manufacturers have relationships with Israeli designers and European markets; Gaza historically supplied much of the fresh fruits and vegetables in Israel. These relationships could restart in months with the sustained, predictable opening of the Karem Shalom crossing and additional trading corridors from Erez or elsewhere.

Perhaps most interesting is the nascent but growing Gaza tech sector, where Gaza Sky Geeks is incubating Palestinian start-ups and more established firms are initiating software development with tech firms in Israel and beyond. Israel’s tech industry has more than 10,000 unfilled jobs which could be filled from the surplus of high-tech graduates in the West Bank and Gaza.

Third, education is a key foundation for a better future. Israelis and Americans have long criticized the Palestinian Authority for not educating its people for peace. Why not engage American universities and NGOs to elevate the Palestinian education system and prepare Palestinians for a 21st century economy? Bard College has provided long-term teacher training at Al Quds University in which teachers and principals earn an American master’s degree in education and serve as leaders in their schools. Imagine if education programming and people-to-people funding allowed the best cohort of Palestinian youth to study in Israeli universities, intern at Israeli high-tech firms, and do residencies at Israeli hospitals. ​

 

[Uncensored2008]

Oh and what the hell? More defunding, and this time - for programs that actually have some value!

US reallocating West Bank-Israel coexistence funds to Arab-Jewish programs

The United States on Sunday confirmed it has cut additional aid to the Palestinians for programs supporting conflict resolution with Israelis, adding to more than $500 million in other cuts.

The latest cuts come from $10 million in programs on reconciliation involving Palestinians as well as Jewish and Arab Israelis.

The portion of the money involving Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip was being redirected to programs between Jewish and Arab Israelis, a US Embassy official said.

Good.

America has no business supporting your terrorist allies.

Coyote is not an ally of terrorists.
Is simply not capable of seeing the difference between Israel and the Arab/Muslim world when it comes to the issues surrounding that disputed territories.

So, no need to keep attacking Coyote this way.

Thank you.

I believe you are mistaken.

 

[Coyote]

The PLO:

Today, the PLO continues to exist; however, most of its leaders have now become top Fatah officials in the Palestinian Authority. Fatah-related militia groups, such as the Tanzim, Force 17 and the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade played a leading role in Palestinian violence during the Second Intifada, including suicide terrorist attacks, ambushes, and shootings of Israeli vehicles and facilities.

With the death of Arafat in November 2004, Mahmoud Abbas, a long-time secretary general of the PLO, became the new Chairman of the PLO and was subsequently elected President of the Palestinian Authority.

Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO)


In what way is Abbas, now President of "Palestine State" not responsible for any and all incitement of his people against Jews and Israel, and all the attacks and deaths which continue to occur?

He is responsible in the same way any leader is for the actions of his people and for government policies. That does not make him or the PLO a terrorist group today.

 

[Sixties Fan]

They also stopped all funding to Jerusalem hospitals that serve Palestinians.

But that's ethically ok apparently.

Do I really need to look up why the funding for those hospitals were stopped? You cannot do it yourself?
Ok. Just give me some time.
Oh, and they stopped funding the Arab schools in Jerusalem as well. Do you know why?

Probably because...like the Israeli schools...they presented an inaccurate history of events.

Here you go:
New Cuts In Medical Aid To Palestinians By Trump Administration
Trump freezes funding to east Jerusalem hospitals

Now, explain please how this is justified? It's one sided pressure that hurts the most vulnerable.

And you are simply assuming that Israel was ok with the defunding of the Palestinian hospitals.

Why is that?

Because Trump and Netanyahu seem to be very close.

If Israel wanted to hurt the Palestinians, it would simply refuse to pass any of the taxes owed to the PA, since the PA insists in paying salaries to those who harm or kill Jews. Not just some of it, as Israel is now doing, but all of it.

And it is not Israel destroying the Rafah crossings and all the destruction which is bound to harm the people in Gaza, refusing medical help from Israel or anything else.......just to prove that they, the leaders, can "do without" anything which comes from Israel. Which of course they cannot.

Israel is in no way forced to keep allowing any help into Gaza or the PA for that matter.
It does so Exactly for ethical reasons, because that is what Judaism demands of Jews.

 

[Coyote]

They also stopped all funding to Jerusalem hospitals that serve Palestinians.

But that's ethically ok apparently.

Do I really need to look up why the funding for those hospitals were stopped? You cannot do it yourself?
Ok. Just give me some time.
Oh, and they stopped funding the Arab schools in Jerusalem as well. Do you know why?

Probably because...like the Israeli schools...they presented an inaccurate history of events.

Here you go:
New Cuts In Medical Aid To Palestinians By Trump Administration
Trump freezes funding to east Jerusalem hospitals

Now, explain please how this is justified? It's one sided pressure that hurts the most vulnerable.

And you are simply assuming that Israel was ok with the defunding of the Palestinian hospitals.

Why is that?

Because Trump and Netanyahu seem to be very close.

Obama admin. sent taxpayer money to campaign to oust Netanyahu - Washington Times
Washington Times › news › jul › obama-...
Jul 12, 2016 · President Obama meets with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin ... to build a campaign to oust Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in last

That's mostly false: Blog claims U.S. funded anti-Netanyahu election effort in Israel

 

[Sixties Fan]

The PLO:

Today, the PLO continues to exist; however, most of its leaders have now become top Fatah officials in the Palestinian Authority. Fatah-related militia groups, such as the Tanzim, Force 17 and the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade played a leading role in Palestinian violence during the Second Intifada, including suicide terrorist attacks, ambushes, and shootings of Israeli vehicles and facilities.

With the death of Arafat in November 2004, Mahmoud Abbas, a long-time secretary general of the PLO, became the new Chairman of the PLO and was subsequently elected President of the Palestinian Authority.

Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO)


In what way is Abbas, now President of "Palestine State" not responsible for any and all incitement of his people against Jews and Israel, and all the attacks and deaths which continue to occur?

He is responsible in the same way any leader is for the actions of his people and for government policies. That does not make him or the PLO a terrorist group today.

Are you telling me that inciting people to murder civilians is not terrorism?

It was during the riots against Jews in 1920, 1921, 1929, 1936, 1948, each and every "Intifada".

That is what Husseini did.

That is what Arafat did.

That is what Abbas has been doing.

That is what Hamas has been doing.

Charging against a fence in order to enter a sovereign country and kill its citizens, is terrorism. One cannot call it defending their lives, because that is not what they are doing with the thousands, now, of fire and explosive balloons which have been sent into Israel, and all the Palestinians who have attempted to enter Israel in order to, in their own words, "kill some Jews".

I find it amazing how Abbas keeps being made responsible by the UN, the EU and others, for all the deaths of Jews and other Israelis he has been clearly responsible for since 1994.

 

[The Purge]

Do I really need to look up why the funding for those hospitals were stopped? You cannot do it yourself?
Ok. Just give me some time.
Oh, and they stopped funding the Arab schools in Jerusalem as well. Do you know why?

Probably because...like the Israeli schools...they presented an inaccurate history of events.

Here you go:
New Cuts In Medical Aid To Palestinians By Trump Administration
Trump freezes funding to east Jerusalem hospitals

Now, explain please how this is justified? It's one sided pressure that hurts the most vulnerable.

And you are simply assuming that Israel was ok with the defunding of the Palestinian hospitals.

Why is that?

Because Trump and Netanyahu seem to be very close.

Obama admin. sent taxpayer money to campaign to oust Netanyahu - Washington Times
Washington Times › news › jul › obama-...
Jul 12, 2016 · President Obama meets with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin ... to build a campaign to oust Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in last

That's mostly false: Blog claims U.S. funded anti-Netanyahu election effort in Israel

Bullshit!
Bipartisan report finds Obama campaign advisor used federal money to build anti-Netanyahu campaign organization - AEI
American Enterprise Institute › publication
Jul 13, 2016 · President Obama meets with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in ... efforts against Netanyahu's re-election did not happen in a vacuum

 

[Coyote]

Probably because...like the Israeli schools...they presented an inaccurate history of events.

Here you go:
New Cuts In Medical Aid To Palestinians By Trump Administration
Trump freezes funding to east Jerusalem hospitals

Now, explain please how this is justified? It's one sided pressure that hurts the most vulnerable.

And you are simply assuming that Israel was ok with the defunding of the Palestinian hospitals.

Why is that?

Because Trump and Netanyahu seem to be very close.

Obama admin. sent taxpayer money to campaign to oust Netanyahu - Washington Times
Washington Times › news › jul › obama-...
Jul 12, 2016 · President Obama meets with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin ... to build a campaign to oust Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in last

That's mostly false: Blog claims U.S. funded anti-Netanyahu election effort in Israel

Bullshit!
Bipartisan report finds Obama campaign advisor used federal money to build anti-Netanyahu campaign organization - AEI
American Enterprise Institute › publication
Jul 13, 2016 · President Obama meets with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in ... efforts against Netanyahu's re-election did not happen in a vacuum

A campaign advisor. Not the Obama Administration.