True socialism a simple poll to middle class Americans

[Wyatt earp]

We already seen the history of it at the new world. Ie ....America....true socialism collapses , that's why they had to go to capitalism.

The idea that the choice we have is socialism or capitalism is itself a lie that you were sold. There isn't a major economy in the world today that isn't based on both capitalism and government involvement. Socialism isn't even the major economic issue of the day. It is actually global trade and modern forms of mercantilism.

Even Bernie Sanders who will refer to himself as a democratic socialist models his views off of economies where the means of production are owned by private parties and the economies are not planned.

dude you are back tracking

If you believe and implement true socialism, I will quit my job in a heart beat.

You and your minions figure out how to process a molding machine, you and your minions figure out how to fix it

You and your minions figure out how to program a 6 axis AB robot or Faunc.

I won't tell you I am retired

I am not for what you call "true socialism" but I am not sure anyone is considering what you describe doesn't really exist from what I can tell.

I am glad you feel like you are important at your job.

I should show you the headhunters always bugging me on emails

Yup kid, I am as good as I say I am


You couldn't even hold my fluke multi meter or Simpson 1950 analog meter

You trying to talk about socialism would be like me trying to use your fluke Simpson multi analog meter thing/s.

I get it now millenal child, you want to destroy the middle class through socialism...

Sorry kid I will be as lazy as you

 

[Wyatt earp]

And won't teach you or tell you a damn thing.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Not my problem, I will be yours

 

[Wyatt earp]

See how socialism works?

 

[Camp]

And won't teach you or tell you a damn thing.

If you are living and working in a capitalist system your boss will instruct you to train the apprentice and you will do it or loose your job. All the company need do is enter the training of new workers and apprentice's into your job description. Without a socialist inspired union you will have no choice. Train the new guy or go work someplace else.

 

[Wyatt earp]

What are you going to do child? Force me to work, force me to tell you how a Simpson analog 1950 meter works

That is socialism = communism

Now do you get it?

 

[Bombur]

The idea that the choice we have is socialism or capitalism is itself a lie that you were sold. There isn't a major economy in the world today that isn't based on both capitalism and government involvement. Socialism isn't even the major economic issue of the day. It is actually global trade and modern forms of mercantilism.

Even Bernie Sanders who will refer to himself as a democratic socialist models his views off of economies where the means of production are owned by private parties and the economies are not planned.

dude you are back tracking

If you believe and implement true socialism, I will quit my job in a heart beat.

You and your minions figure out how to process a molding machine, you and your minions figure out how to fix it

You and your minions figure out how to program a 6 axis AB robot or Faunc.

I won't tell you I am retired

I am not for what you call "true socialism" but I am not sure anyone is considering what you describe doesn't really exist from what I can tell.

I am glad you feel like you are important at your job.

I should show you the headhunters always bugging me on emails

Yup kid, I am as good as I say I am


You couldn't even hold my fluke multi meter or Simpson 1950 analog meter

You trying to talk about socialism would be like me trying to use your fluke Simpson multi analog meter thing/s.

I get it now millenal child, you want to destroy the middle class through socialism...

Sorry kid I will be as lazy as you

The middle class has been harmed by broken arguments about socialism versus capitalism because that is the only argument the old timers understand. Meanwhile the real debate of the day is more about mercantilism than socialism or capitalism. Your world view is dated and broken. Time to retire.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Are there socialist countries where everyone, no matter what job, janitor or skilled craftsman gets the same pay and people who don't even work get that pay also. That seems to be what the poll questions are implying.

Isn't the promise of your party "to each according to his need, from each according to his ability?"

Of course when dollars are not used to motivate people to work, the traditional motivator - the whip - is used.

Ultimately that is what you leftists offer - the return to the whip.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Sorry to disappoint camp I am one in a million, never been fired in 30 years plus, I quit many jobs, and they cry to call me back

Do you guys suck so bad at your jobs?

I believe so

 

[Wyatt earp]

That your so worthless and lazy on here with no fucking skills


You cry for pure /true socialism?

Good luck with that. I Will retire in a heart beat if that day ever comes.

 

[Camp]

Are there socialist countries where everyone, no matter what job, janitor or skilled craftsman gets the same pay and people who don't even work get that pay also. That seems to be what the poll questions are implying.

Isn't the promise of your party "to each according to his need, from each according to his ability?"

Of course when dollars are not used to motivate people to work, the traditional motivator - the whip - is used.

Ultimately that is what you leftists offer - the return to the whip.

I do not have a party sir. I have been registered as an non affiliated independent voter my entire voting age life. I have never actually volunteer worked for a Democratic candidate. I have volunteer worked for several Republican ones.
You are attempting to answer a question by asking a new question. That is called a deflection. Why not just answer the question with an answer?

 

[Uncensored2008]

I do not have a party sir.

Sure you don't - you just spew Soros tripe 24/7 because um. OBAMA AKBAR...

I have been registered as an non affiliated independent voter my entire voting age life. I have never actually volunteer worked for a Democratic candidate. I have volunteer worked for several Republican ones.
You are attempting to answer a question by asking a new question. That is called a deflection. Why not just answer the question with an answer?

You are one of the more partisan posters on this board.

As for answering the question you recited, there is no country which you would accept as socialist. I can point to North Korea, Cambodia, Cuba, et al. - but you'll just do the Soros schtick that these aren't really real socialist like the good and pure socialism that you offer if we just submit to authoritarian rule...

 

[CrusaderFrank]

You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

Socialism = Progressive

If you want to use the term socialism to describe the political platform of "progressives" in the US then that is fine. The problem is when you then try and use the word socialism to compare the progressive platform to all forms of socialism ever conceived throughout history.

I assume you are only calling the progressive platform socialism so that you can compare it to Soviet Russia or something equally ridiculous I think it is safe for me to dismiss your rants as ignorant and illogical BS. I will give you the opportunity of proving me wrong but the odds are heavily in my favor.

Who the fuck are you?

 

[Bombur]

You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

Socialism = Progressive

If you want to use the term socialism to describe the political platform of "progressives" in the US then that is fine. The problem is when you then try and use the word socialism to compare the progressive platform to all forms of socialism ever conceived throughout history.

I assume you are only calling the progressive platform socialism so that you can compare it to Soviet Russia or something equally ridiculous I think it is safe for me to dismiss your rants as ignorant and illogical BS. I will give you the opportunity of proving me wrong but the odds are heavily in my favor.

Who the fuck are you?

and the odds just keep getting better.

 

[cnm]

This thread has been a demonstration of the rightard need to redefine words in order to make an argument.

 

[Wry Catcher]

I would definitely quit my job and say fuck it, I won't tell you anything I know about the 30 years plus being in a industrial injection molding maintenance guy

Don't quit our day job to being work as a troll. The society of trolls will kick you out of their organization if this tread is indicative of your skill set.