True conservatism

[REVxERIK]

blu, you have wondered in the wonder land of modern "conservatism". Modern conservatism denies the natural rights to "life, liberty, and property". How? By favoring big and small business over the labor of the working man and woman. Obama is far more a classic liberal than any of the so-called conservatives here.

Usually liberalism and socialism is working hand in hand. So I see how you would come to the conclusion about Obama.

You didnt read the article.
Liberalism is the antithesis of socialism. Jake Starkey is equally a moron if he thinks that conservatism favors business over labor and this is somehow a denial of natural rights (whatever those are).

this is the first and probably the only time i'll be with you on something rabbi

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

blu, you have wondered in the wonder land of modern "conservatism". Modern conservatism denies the natural rights to "life, liberty, and property". How? By favoring big and small business over the labor of the working man and woman. Obama is far more a classic liberal than any of the so-called conservatives here.

Usually liberalism and socialism is working hand in hand. So I see how you would come to the conclusion about Obama.

You didnt read the article.
Liberalism is the antithesis of socialism. Jake Starkey is equally a moron if he thinks that conservatism favors business over labor and this is somehow a denial of natural rights (whatever those are).

I read the article and it is more of the same nonsense which seeks to defend the indefensible. It is libertarian drivel which calls for the anarchist free-for-all; where each is encouraged to lay naked in the public square, writhing amongst the excrement and urine, because, for THEM... it 'feels good.' A notion which demands that to establish a standard of behavior which precludes such activity, is by its very existance a usurpation of a right to do so.

The problem is that Human Rights are natural rights... natural rights are those rights which come as a result of the natural order; and those rights are the ONLY "Rights" that one enjoys. All other 'rights'; those which stem from the ethereal social contract are merely temporal privileges, which ebb and flow along with the power which endorses them, thus are served by them.

Natural Rights, come with sustaining responsibilties... specifically these responsibilities require that one is rightfully entitled to do whatever one recognizes as providing for the fulfillment of one's life, that does not infringe upon or usurp the right of another to exercise their own rights.

Writhing in excrement, in the public square violates my right to not be subject to spectacles of debauchery; to not be subject to the filth and hazards associated with such; where such behavior is that which you see as essential to your life... thus a right; FINE WITH ME... but you've a RESPONSIBILITY TO EXERCISE THAT RIGHT, WHERE SUCH DOES NOT USURP MY RIGHT TO NOT BE SUBJECTED TO ITS DEBILITATING EFFECTS... you've no right to my consent; you've no right to my approval; no right to the product of my labor to sustain such and no right to be isolated from ridicule for having been found engaging in or advocating for such; thus you've no right to advocate for the lowering of a cultural standard, to provide for the cultural acceptance of such, in the absence of reasoned contest.

And what's more, you cannot be present in the public square; soaked on piss and covered in crap and lament being chastized for that which you enjoy in the privacy of your HOME...

Nor can you isolate yourself from being chastized for such, when you come to the public square to proclaim yourself as a crap writher... and DEMAND A RIGHT TO WRITH IN CRAP... by claiming that such is a PRIVATE MATTER.

I have a right and a duty to hold those around me accountable for their behavior. Where the sum of individuals do so, we call this PUBLIC STANDARDS... and the NOTION that the establishment, adherence to and maintenance of PUBLIC STANDARDS is somehow LESS THAN CONSERVATIVE IS IGNORANCE ADORNED DELUSION, ON PARADE!

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

It likely this thread will simply fade into obscurity... it is a certainty that the premise in the OP has been refuted in its entirety.

 

[midcan5]

"Ideally citizens are to think of themselves as if they were legislators and ask themselves what statutes, supported by what reasons satisfying the criterion of reciprocity, they would think is most reasonable to enact." John Rawls (modern day liberal)


Jeez, another piece of revisionist history from guess who: conservatives. Has anyone ever considered that classical liberals (CL) were liberals and their ideology was based on the times they lived in? Now conservatives saying they are CL is the same as saying they are liberals? And they are not. Ideologies evolve as all things do, they change and mutate and modern liberalism is in the same tree as CL as that is its foundation. A conservative saying they were born liberal is bizarre at its core. Consider the freedoms they dislike and their intolerance, and you see clearly they cannot be liberal. It seems after fascism that conservatives do nothing but run from themselves, even Bush was not a conservative now. Too much!

Please answer my question posed here. What is a conservative? – Political Pass

Do this easy thought experiment. Place yourself in a cave with a conservative and a liberal. One will argue that change is not possible, that leaving the cave will be dangerous, that raising crops is not possible and will ruin hunting; the other will say let's try it, I think it can work, this cave is dark and dingy, I like the sun, and we can do better. One can then extrapolate to any historic time and use our two people. Slavery - suffrage - equal rights - welfare - better working conditions - labor laws - minimum wage - social security, you name them and you know who will move forward and who will stand still. Albert Hirschman who I url-ed below calls this reactionary tactic by three thesis tags: Perversity, futility, and jeopardy. Or 'it will make things worse, it won't work, or it will ruin existing structure.

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Rhetoric-Reaction-Perversity-Futility-Jeopardy/dp/067476868X/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_c]Amazon.com: The Rhetoric of Reaction: Perversity, Futility, Jeopardy (9780674768680): Albert O. Hirschman: Books[/ame]

That is conservatism in nutshell today and maybe always. And the only area in which I see conservative allow change is in corporate power, at that altar conservatives worship - to the detriment of America's working class and often to the detriment of the world.

Liberal Rights" Jeremy Waldron See Chapter 2 Page 35
Liberal rights: collected papers ... - Google Books

http://www.princeton.edu/~starr/articles/articles07/Starr.WhyLiberalismWorks.pdf

 

[Oddball]

Problem with that blog op-ed is that the so-called conservatives (whatever the hell that's supposed to mean anymore) merely talk about smaller gubmint and more personal responsibility, then turn around and govern like the socialists they supposedly oppose.

 

[REVxERIK]

Problem with that blog op-ed is that the so-called conservatives (whatever the hell that's supposed to mean anymore) merely talk about smaller gubmint and more personal responsibility, then turn around and govern like the socialists they supposedly oppose.

hey, i believe in small government and i really oppose socialism. how do you know this guy doesn't?

 

[REVxERIK]

The Right Side: The True Conservative (Part I)

Read this and ask yourself if you are REALLY a conservative, neo liberal, or neo conservative.

i found that i'm a true conservative, or a "classic" liberal!
cool!

NOTE- THIS IS A BLOGGER WHO I AGREE WITH BASED ON INDEPENDENT RESEARCH AND BELIEFS. HIS IS A JUST A SUMMARY THAT I THINK IS ACCURATE.
SO DON"T ATTACK MY SOURCE AS EVERYONE USUALLY WILL.

As is so often the case, your author is a child. No one takes anything a child says seriously, because, while it may be cute that such wants to present themselves as something with the potential to more than a child... they are, in fact, children; thus their perspective is that of the child.

His understanding of Left-think is correct for the most part... but he is infected with the false premises that are intrinsic with such.

Conservatives believe in moral certainties... and one of those moral certainties is that where one encourages the abnormal, immoral behavior... one will realize more immoral behavior... with the only potential being that the level of abnormality will escalate consistant with the acceptance.

Homosexuality is taboo for the sound reasons that thousands of years of human experience have demonstrated that such is to be avoided... from the incontestable health issues, to the degeneracy of the culture and so on.

That children disagree is irrelevant...

They're children... they're idiots . And my advice to such children is to shut the fuck up and speak only when you're spoken to... No one cares what you think and that's because you do so little of it, that you simply suck at it.

And this from as true a conservative as God has ever placed on this earth...

Well since homosexuality is not a choice then how do you avoid it?
you clearly lack love compassion and equality btw.

 

[REVxERIK]

It likely this thread will simply fade into obscurity... it is a certainty that the premise in the OP has been refuted in its entirety.

except it hasn't.
Way to play the oh so Enlightened asshole
you really should kick your belief that you're the all knowing, it's toxic to others.

 

[Oddball]

Problem with that blog op-ed is that the so-called conservatives (whatever the hell that's supposed to mean anymore) merely talk about smaller gubmint and more personal responsibility, then turn around and govern like the socialists they supposedly oppose.

hey, i believe in small government and i really oppose socialism. how do you know this guy doesn't?

Because he's really in no position to act, other than running himself or continuing to play hit-n-hope by voting for republicans.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Problem with that blog op-ed is that the so-called conservatives (whatever the hell that's supposed to mean anymore) merely talk about smaller gubmint and more personal responsibility, then turn around and govern like the socialists they supposedly oppose.

Dude, don't let these idiots get away with this...

US Conservatives are the embodiment of America... Conservatives are those people that seek to CONSERVE the immutable principles on which the United States was founded; the principles that are "America." Conservatism is represented in the US Declaration of Independence... and there is NOTHING within the entire scope of Left-think, including 'liberalism,' which advances, advocates for or adheres to ANY of those principles.

Where Liberalism tries to do so, it does so PURELY on the false notion that whatever "RIGHT" the Left claims to adhere, they claim such on the want for the Right... even as they REJECT THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT SUSTAINS THE RIGHT... and there is absolutely no means to possess a right absent the foundational responsibility for that right.

Be it Free-speech, Privacy, Property, sexual.... they claim the right and reject the responsibility which ensures that right.

Conservatism has a meaning; and the OP itself; and all of the harping on the issue which originates with the Left, with regard to the projection of 'true Conservatives' is nothing less than a concerted effort to blur the meaning of that word.

By simply stating' 'conservatives... whatever that means anymore' you promote the notion that Conservatism doesn't mean anything.

There is NOTHING in the American root which precludes the establishment of or provides a justifiable grounds to disregard sound cultural standards. PERIOD.

Thus there is absolutely no potential basis in sound reasoning which can claim that 'true conservatives' would stand against the normalizations of sexual abnormality... or deprive the sexually abnormal from participating in cultural circumstances which are limited to the normal...

The argument is NO MORE COMPLEX than THAT... and all of these fruits and nuts clambering on trying to define their opposition is nothing more than a delusion on mass which advances a just as massive straw Dog, against which they hope to successfully present an effective argument.

It's nonsense... they're losing... and they're about to LOSE BIG! They know this and they're growing desperate...

Let them lose... the arguments are all fundamental... there are no new deep thoughts to be had... there is no new 'thinking' to be applied... it's all old news and there's absolutely no means for them to succeed, unless we allow them to re-invent the players... which is all the left has ever done. That's how we ended up with Socialists, Progressives, Fascists, Communists, Liberals... and so on... THEY FAIL AND NEED TO RE-LABLE THEMSELVES TO ISOLATE THEMSELVES FROM THEIR OWN FAILURE.

They're not relableing us... Our system works... it works well, it succeeds everywhere it is tried and has yet to deomonstrate a single failure anywhere.

 

[Oddball]

Meh....

The only thing I see the alleged "conservatives" conserving is fuel, on the road to serfdom.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

It likely this thread will simply fade into obscurity... it is a certainty that the premise in the OP has been refuted in its entirety.

except it hasn't.
Way to play the oh so Enlightened asshole
you really should kick your belief that you're the all knowing, it's toxic to others.

ROFLMNAO... and what ya see here is the same delusion that props up the looming failures of Socialist Europe as examples of "Socialism that works..." They erroneously feel that because it presently exists, it will always exist...

Rest assured witless, that this thread will fade into obscurity and it will do so when you and yours feel that it no longer serves your purpose.

There's not that much to know, Shitshank... These are fundamental issues... and there's just not that much to them.

Sadly, for you and the culture which you infect; when you SCREW-UP THE FUNDAMENTALS... you promote the probability of failure.

It also worth noting that while you seem desperate to project that my positions are in error... that you've failed to address what that, or those errors are... and opt instead to simply advance the flaccid 'nuh-uh' defense... and while you claim to be a conservative... your tendency is to waddle and quack in the tradition of the impotence that is: Left-think.

Now the only question reamining is whether or not you're simply wrong... or you're not sufficiently equipped to advance your reasoning... my bet is that what we have here is yet another example of the dreaded COMBO...

The good and bad news for you, is that YOU're the one who will answer that question...

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

The Right Side: The True Conservative (Part I)

Read this and ask yourself if you are REALLY a conservative, neo liberal, or neo conservative.

i found that i'm a true conservative, or a "classic" liberal!
cool!

NOTE- THIS IS A BLOGGER WHO I AGREE WITH BASED ON INDEPENDENT RESEARCH AND BELIEFS. HIS IS A JUST A SUMMARY THAT I THINK IS ACCURATE.
SO DON"T ATTACK MY SOURCE AS EVERYONE USUALLY WILL.

As is so often the case, your author is a child. No one takes anything a child says seriously, because, while it may be cute that such wants to present themselves as something with the potential to more than a child... they are, in fact, children; thus their perspective is that of the child.

His understanding of Left-think is correct for the most part... but he is infected with the false premises that are intrinsic with such.

Conservatives believe in moral certainties... and one of those moral certainties is that where one encourages the abnormal, immoral behavior... one will realize more immoral behavior... with the only potential being that the level of abnormality will escalate consistant with the acceptance.

Homosexuality is taboo for the sound reasons that thousands of years of human experience have demonstrated that such is to be avoided... from the incontestable health issues, to the degeneracy of the culture and so on.

That children disagree is irrelevant...

They're children... they're idiots . And my advice to such children is to shut the fuck up and speak only when you're spoken to... No one cares what you think and that's because you do so little of it, that you simply suck at it.

And this from as true a conservative as God has ever placed on this earth...

Well since homosexuality is not a choice then how do you avoid it?

LOL... By choosing not to engage IN IT.

you clearly lack love compassion and equality btw.

Hmm... Let's see now...

You've defined, through implication, that compassion is a function of tolerating the differing opinions of others... and in so doing, you've done so through the unapologetic intolerance of my position... thus demonstrating the absence of compassion, at least as you've implied its meaning.

After which you stated the absurdity that I lack equality...

First, equality is a state of being... thus it exists where it exist; and where such is the case, its existance is relative to that which establishes that existance. Thus where a given facet of my existance is equal to a facet of another's existance, I possess equality...

Meaning that where another possesses simple common sense, natural good looks, a rapier wit and uncommon hetero-sexual prowess... I exemplify equality common to those equitable traits common to and exemplified in the other.

You of course were speaking to my perception of equality... which again demonstrates your personal failure to see "equality;" in the sense common to the US Declaration of Independence as a function of outcome... and not of opportunity. Again demonstrating your mindset as being infected with virulent Left-think.

The simple fact is that the Homo-sexual and the hetero-sexual are both born with equal rights and both are presented with equal opportunities to pursue the fulfillment of their respective lives.

Both can choose that which identifies them... Both can pursue that which inevitably defines them... and BOTH MAY AVOID HAVING THEIR RESPECTIVE KINKS BE THAT WHICH DEFINES THEM... and BOTH MAY OR MAY NOT CHOOSE TO BE IDENTIFIED BY SOMETHING OTHER THAN THEIR SEXUALITY...

You see, I believe that the immutable principles of nature provide that one is entitled to engage in whatever sexual activity flips their switch... as LONG as that activity is not detrimental to the rights of another.

So where two men or two women are sexually attracted to one another, what they do in the private, is PRIVATE... and the right to such rests on their RESPONSIBILTIY TO KEEP IT PRIVATE... and that where they fail to KEEP PRIVATE BEHAVIOR PRIVATE; they forfeit the right which was founded upon such; which more often than not results in PUBLIC RIDICULE... and if sufficiently perverse, public SCORN...

The rights are equal, as the responsibilities are equal... and it is THE RESPONSIBILITY which you idiots SHIRK... and it is the FAILURE TO ADHERE TO THE RESPONSIBILITY which most often represents what you erroneously "FEEL" to be inequality. The equality rests PURELY in the opportunity... and being a DUMBASS, you simply 'feel' that this isn't FAIR... which doesn't change ANYTHING... despite your feelings to the contrary.

In truth it is the purest embodiment of FAIRNESS... it is perfection in reasoning; which thus demonstrates its divine origins; which establishes the authority on which it rests... and in so doing represents the unalienable quality that are your human rights.

As I've noted many times... Left-think is BIG on "RIGHTS"... but it rejects entirely the foundation on which all rights rest... which are their INHERENT RESPONSIBILITIES.

 

[Oscar Wao]

The Right Side: The True Conservative (Part I)

Read this and ask yourself if you are REALLY a conservative, neo liberal, or neo conservative.

i found that i'm a true conservative, or a "classic" liberal!
cool!

NOTE- THIS IS A BLOGGER WHO I AGREE WITH BASED ON INDEPENDENT RESEARCH AND BELIEFS. HIS IS A JUST A SUMMARY THAT I THINK IS ACCURATE.
SO DON"T ATTACK MY SOURCE AS EVERYONE USUALLY WILL.

As is so often the case, your author is a child. No one takes anything a child says seriously, because, while it may be cute that such wants to present themselves as something with the potential to more than a child... they are, in fact, children; thus their perspective is that of the child.

His understanding of Left-think is correct for the most part... but he is infected with the false premises that are intrinsic with such.

Conservatives believe in moral certainties... and one of those moral certainties is that where one encourages the abnormal, immoral behavior... one will realize more immoral behavior... with the only potential being that the level of abnormality will escalate consistant with the acceptance.

Homosexuality is taboo for the sound reasons that thousands of years of human experience have demonstrated that such is to be avoided... from the incontestable health issues, to the degeneracy of the culture and so on.

That children disagree is irrelevant...

They're children... they're idiots . And my advice to such children is to shut the fuck up and speak only when you're spoken to... No one cares what you think and that's because you do so little of it, that you simply suck at it.

And this from as true a conservative as God has ever placed on this earth...

Well since homosexuality is not a choice then how do you avoid it?
you clearly lack love compassion and equality btw.

Another thing he clearly doesn't understand is that these "children" are going to become voters in 2012 (if they're 18 by then) and beyond. Also, those "kids should shut up unless they're asked a question" (according to him) might found the next huge corporation and advance the tech boom, become the next SCOTUS justice, discover a cure for cancer, or even become our next President.

I wouldn't underestimate the power of us yutes...

Disregarding us young people is like dipping your finger in some gas and then seeing if you can stick it in fire or trying to tease a bull and think you can run away from it...

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Problem with that blog op-ed is that the so-called conservatives (whatever the hell that's supposed to mean anymore) merely talk about smaller gubmint and more personal responsibility, then turn around and govern like the socialists they supposedly oppose.

Dude, don't let these idiots get away with this...

US Conservatives are the embodiment of America... Conservatives are those people that seek to CONSERVE the immutable principles on which the United States was founded; the principles that are "America." Conservatism is represented in the US Declaration of Independence... and there is NOTHING within the entire scope of Left-think, including 'liberalism,' which advances, advocates for or adheres to ANY of those principles.

Where Liberalism tries to do so, it does so PURELY on the false notion that whatever "RIGHT" the Left claims to adhere, they claim such on the want for the Right... even as they REJECT THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT SUSTAINS THE RIGHT... and there is absolutely no means to possess a right absent the foundational responsibility for that right.

Be it Free-speech, Privacy, Property, sexual.... they claim the right and reject the responsibility which ensures that right.

Conservatism has a meaning; and the OP itself; and all of the harping on the issue which originates with the Left, with regard to the projection of 'true Conservatives' is nothing less than a concerted effort to blur the meaning of that word.

By simply stating' 'conservatives... whatever that means anymore' you promote the notion that Conservatism doesn't mean anything.

There is NOTHING in the American root which precludes the establishment of or provides a justifiable grounds to disregard sound cultural standards. PERIOD.

Thus there is absolutely no potential basis in sound reasoning which can claim that 'true conservatives' would stand against the normalizations of sexual abnormality... or deprive the sexually abnormal from participating in cultural circumstances which are limited to the normal...

The argument is NO MORE COMPLEX than THAT... and all of these fruits and nuts clambering on trying to define their opposition is nothing more than a delusion on mass which advances a just as massive straw Dog, against which they hope to successfully present an effective argument.

It's nonsense... they're losing... and they're about to LOSE BIG! They know this and they're growing desperate...

Let them lose... the arguments are all fundamental... there are no new deep thoughts to be had... there is no new 'thinking' to be applied... it's all old news and there's absolutely no means for them to succeed, unless we allow them to re-invent the players... which is all the left has ever done. That's how we ended up with Socialists, Progressives, Fascists, Communists, Liberals... and so on... THEY FAIL AND NEED TO RE-LABLE THEMSELVES TO ISOLATE THEMSELVES FROM THEIR OWN FAILURE.

They're not relableing us... Our system works... it works well, it succeeds everywhere it is tried and has yet to deomonstrate a single failure anywhere.

Meh....

The only thing I see the alleged "conservatives" conserving is fuel, on the road to serfdom.

Well, again... it may be that we are accepting Leftists, who represent themselves as Conservatives; and the most obvious and most predictable manifestation which results from such, is that the concept of "Conservatism" ... OKA: Americanism... becomes blurred... meaningless. Such circumstances would certainly produce the perspective wherein America itself, defined as it was founded... would be considered "EXTREME...


I personally could not care less, what anyone of such a perspective feels about anything. I consider such people to be sub-human and care vastly more about the life of my own pets, than I do about the well being of such individuals.

Now if we're to conserve and sustain the immutable principles that comprise America... we cannot advance any form, of so much as a PRETENSE that these people are entitled to advance such an opinion.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

As is so often the case, your author is a child. No one takes anything a child says seriously, because, while it may be cute that such wants to present themselves as something with the potential to more than a child... they are, in fact, children; thus their perspective is that of the child.

His understanding of Left-think is correct for the most part... but he is infected with the false premises that are intrinsic with such.

Conservatives believe in moral certainties... and one of those moral certainties is that where one encourages the abnormal, immoral behavior... one will realize more immoral behavior... with the only potential being that the level of abnormality will escalate consistant with the acceptance.

Homosexuality is taboo for the sound reasons that thousands of years of human experience have demonstrated that such is to be avoided... from the incontestable health issues, to the degeneracy of the culture and so on.

That children disagree is irrelevant...

They're children... they're idiots . And my advice to such children is to shut the fuck up and speak only when you're spoken to... No one cares what you think and that's because you do so little of it, that you simply suck at it.

And this from as true a conservative as God has ever placed on this earth...

Well since homosexuality is not a choice then how do you avoid it?
you clearly lack love compassion and equality btw.

Another thing he clearly doesn't understand is that these "children" are going to become voters in 2012 (if they're 18 by then) and beyond. Also, those "kids should shut up unless they're asked a question" (according to him) might found the next huge corporation and advance the tech boom, become the next SCOTUS justice, discover a cure for cancer, or even become our next President.

I wouldn't underestimate the power of us yutes...

Disregarding us young people is like dipping your finger in some gas and then seeing if you can stick it in fire or trying to tease a bull and think you can run away from it...

It is impossible to underestimate idiots.

 

[JakeStarkey]

It is impossible to underestimate one who is a birther, a deather, a falsifier, and who sounds like a general all around jerk like you, PI.

 

[code1211]

The Right Side: The True Conservative (Part I)

Read this and ask yourself if you are REALLY a conservative, neo liberal, or neo conservative.

i found that i'm a true conservative, or a "classic" liberal!
cool!

NOTE- THIS IS A BLOGGER WHO I AGREE WITH BASED ON INDEPENDENT RESEARCH AND BELIEFS. HIS IS A JUST A SUMMARY THAT I THINK IS ACCURATE.
SO DON"T ATTACK MY SOURCE AS EVERYONE USUALLY WILL.

Having read ahead a little, it seems that folks like to respond to something without reading it. Interesting approach and it is one that is used consistantly.

I did read it and Stone makes some points that I have made in the past. Stressing that I am making no referance or comparisson to Hitler, our current drift of government is heading toward Fascism which is government control of privately held companies.

In the areas of Finance and Autos, it is defacto control. In all other areas, the regulation amounts to contol. Some of that control is needed i.e. : FDA regulation, building codes and so forth. Some is overreaching, ill planned and abusive. The ethanol fiasco that continues today is a great example of this.

In my opinion, I am a Conservative as Stone defines it.

 

[Oddball]

Well, again... it may be that we are accepting Leftists, who represent themselves as Conservatives; and the most obvious and most predictable manifestation which results from such, is that the concept of "Conservatism" ... OKA: Americanism... becomes blurred... meaningless. Such circumstances would certainly produce the perspective wherein America itself, defined as it was founded... would be considered "EXTREME...

Accepting them??...Hell, the party ran two of them for president the last three elections.

Now if we're to conserve and sustain the immutable principles that comprise America... we cannot advance any form, of so much as a PRETENSE that these people are entitled to advance such an opinion.

You've already failed in that task....It's time to restore liberty that has been lost, via the appeasement and enabling of the Fabian left by the fake "conservatives".

Which, ironically, would make you a true liberal.

 

[code1211]

The Right Side: The True Conservative (Part I)

Read this and ask yourself if you are REALLY a conservative, neo liberal, or neo conservative.

i found that i'm a true conservative, or a "classic" liberal!
cool!

NOTE- THIS IS A BLOGGER WHO I AGREE WITH BASED ON INDEPENDENT RESEARCH AND BELIEFS. HIS IS A JUST A SUMMARY THAT I THINK IS ACCURATE.
SO DON"T ATTACK MY SOURCE AS EVERYONE USUALLY WILL.

As is so often the case, your author is a child. No one takes anything a child says seriously, because, while it may be cute that such wants to present themselves as something with the potential to more than a child... they are, in fact, children; thus their perspective is that of the child.

His understanding of Left-think is correct for the most part... but he is infected with the false premises that are intrinsic with such.

Conservatives believe in moral certainties... and one of those moral certainties is that where one encourages the abnormal, immoral behavior... one will realize more immoral behavior... with the only potential being that the level of abnormality will escalate consistant with the acceptance.

Homosexuality is taboo for the sound reasons that thousands of years of human experience have demonstrated that such is to be avoided... from the incontestable health issues, to the degeneracy of the culture and so on.
That children disagree is irrelevant...

They're children... they're idiots . And my advice to such children is to shut the fuck up and speak only when you're spoken to... No one cares what you think and that's because you do so little of it, that you simply suck at it.

And this from as true a conservative as God has ever placed on this earth...

I must have missed the author's pronouncements on the "moral certainties" that you cite. Could you please cut and paste them from the article in question?