True, Classical Liberals are Pro-Life

What about the liberty of the host body?

since pregnancy is a women's burden to bare, she should have a choice about said pregnancy.

However the choice has turned into a barbaric money making convenience.

Women need to be taught what an abortion really is and how it actually does hurt and kill a living human.
 
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What about the liberty of the host body?

Is that mentioned anywhere in the Declaration of Independence?

In regards to the topic of the thread, I think when you get right down to it, most people are pro-life, yes, even TM. I think the difference is in the role we perceive the government should have in determining the question of whether or not a woman should carry out a pregnancy.

Abortion is a tragedy every time one is performed. Tragedies happen. We should be working together to make fewer tragedies happen.

Immie

Which is why it was made legal again in the US.

MORE women died because they sought or were forced to seek back alley abortions that killed them.
 
From our Declaration of Independance:
"...endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. "

Which word comes first pinko's?

LIFE

:cool:

Yea, our founding fathers issued a grant to John Hopkins University to do a DNA study on embryo development, that was the same week George Washington's doctors treat his quinsy using calomel (ingesting mercurous chloride) and bloodletting...

Maybe you should instead use your tiny little pea brain to contemplate that 'endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life' would signify that health care is a RIGHT, not a privilege...

So, using your logic, the right to life means the right to free health care.

OK... so the right to car would then also mean the right to free gas.

Gee, we could apply that to all kinds stuff to get freebies, couldn't we.

No, no one needs a car to live. Maybe you need to either spend some time thinking about what is required FOR life to continue, or come back when you are an adult.
 
What about the liberty of the host body?

Is that mentioned anywhere in the Declaration of Independence?

In regards to the topic of the thread, I think when you get right down to it, most people are pro-life, yes, even TM. I think the difference is in the role we perceive the government should have in determining the question of whether or not a woman should carry out a pregnancy.

Abortion is a tragedy every time one is performed. Tragedies happen. We should be working together to make fewer tragedies happen.

Immie

Which is why it was made legal again in the US.

MORE women died because they sought or were forced to seek back alley abortions that killed them.

I... am... not... going... to... even... try...!!!

Forget it.

Immie
 
"dead people are not people"
Are you seriously proposing that the in-utero baby is merely a lump of dead human tissue?
:cuckoo:

Why are dead people different from the living?

It has nothing to do with whether cells in random tissues still function.
 
From our Declaration of Independance:
"...endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. "

Which word comes first pinko's?

LIFE

:cool:

Yea, our founding fathers issued a grant to John Hopkins University to do a DNA study on embryo development, that was the same week George Washington's doctors treat his quinsy using calomel (ingesting mercurous chloride) and bloodletting...

Maybe you should instead use your tiny little pea brain to contemplate that 'endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life' would signify that health care is a RIGHT, not a privilege...

So, using your logic, the right to life means the right to free health care.

OK... so the right to car would then also mean the right to free gas.

Gee, we could apply that to all kinds stuff to get freebies, couldn't we.

Who said anything about a right to a car?

Oh, you did- because you're a fucking moron.
 
For those who the lack of coverage and the ability to get care when needed HC is a matter of life and death.

How does a child born with a condition in which they will die without care survive without care?
 
From our Declaration of Independance:
"...endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. "

Which word comes first pinko's?

LIFE

:cool:

I kind of agree with you. They mainly are pro-life.... many however, do not feel they should inflict their view on others. Tricky.
 
Yea, our founding fathers issued a grant to John Hopkins University to do a DNA study on embryo development, that was the same week George Washington's doctors treat his quinsy using calomel (ingesting mercurous chloride) and bloodletting...

Maybe you should instead use your tiny little pea brain to contemplate that 'endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life' would signify that health care is a RIGHT, not a privilege...

So, using your logic, the right to life means the right to free health care.

OK... so the right to car would then also mean the right to free gas.

Gee, we could apply that to all kinds stuff to get freebies, couldn't we.

No, no one needs a car to live. Maybe you need to either spend some time thinking about what is required FOR life to continue, or come back when you are an adult.

Oh really? No one needs a car? How many do you have? I have an idea... why don't you SELL your car/s? Hmmm? Start walking that thirty mile one way commute to work every day. It ought to be especially enjoyable when it's 20 BELOW! Sheeeezuz... could you sound like more of an imbecile if you tried?

No one is ENTITLED to health care dumbass. It is not a RIGHT. It's a service provided by a private industry, or at least USED to be before you meddling, JACKASS, SOCIALIST, LIBERAL ASS WADS FUCKED WITH IT, and if you wanted it, you PAID for it. If you didn't want it, you DIDN'T pay for it, as it SHOULD be. But no, you fucking socialists, led by your uncouth, smart ass little dog eared marxist from Chicago just had to FUCK IT UP, and to put the frosting on the cake, it's the final insurance we needed to ensure our economy WILL FAIL.

Congratulations IDIOT.
 
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So, using your logic, the right to life means the right to free health care.

OK... so the right to car would then also mean the right to free gas.

Gee, we could apply that to all kinds stuff to get freebies, couldn't we.

No, no one needs a car to live. Maybe you need to either spend some time thinking about what is required FOR life to continue, or come back when you are an adult.

Oh really? No one needs a car? How many do you have? I have an idea... why don't you SELL your car/s? Hmmm? Start walking that thirty mile one way commute to work every day. It ought to be especially enjoyable when it's 20 BELOW! Sheeeezuz... could you sound like more of an imbecile if you tried?

No one is ENTITLED to health care dumbass. It is not a RIGHT. It's a service provided by a private industry, or at least USED to be before you meddling, JACKASS, SOCIALIST, LIBERAL ASS WADS FUCKED WITH IT, and if you wanted it, you PAID for it. If you didn't want it, you DIDN'T pay for it, as it SHOULD be. But no, you fucking socialists, led by your uncouth, smart ass little dog eared marxist from Chicago just had to FUCK IT UP, and to put the frosting on the cake, it's the final insurance we needed to ensure our economy WILL FAIL.

Congratulations IDIOT.

Congratulations Pale Rider...in one paragraph, you encapsulated the ignorance, hatred and lack of any morals or conscience that is now what's called conservative values...
 
From our Declaration of Independance:
"...endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. "

Which word comes first pinko's?

LIFE

:cool:

I kind of agree with you. They mainly are pro-life.... many however, do not feel they should inflict their view on others. Tricky.

Fail.

Yes, they do. Else they'd be anarchists and wouldn't use the State to enforce Law designed to enforce their views of what rights people have. They'd stick only to self-organization of willful participants for mutual cooperation and protection- in other words, they'd form gangs, not governments.
 
No one deserves to live if they are born with a condition that reguires medical care?
 
No, no one needs a car to live. Maybe you need to either spend some time thinking about what is required FOR life to continue, or come back when you are an adult.

Oh really? No one needs a car? How many do you have? I have an idea... why don't you SELL your car/s? Hmmm? Start walking that thirty mile one way commute to work every day. It ought to be especially enjoyable when it's 20 BELOW! Sheeeezuz... could you sound like more of an imbecile if you tried?

No one is ENTITLED to health care dumbass. It is not a RIGHT. It's a service provided by a private industry, or at least USED to be before you meddling, JACKASS, SOCIALIST, LIBERAL ASS WADS FUCKED WITH IT, and if you wanted it, you PAID for it. If you didn't want it, you DIDN'T pay for it, as it SHOULD be. But no, you fucking socialists, led by your uncouth, smart ass little dog eared marxist from Chicago just had to FUCK IT UP, and to put the frosting on the cake, it's the final insurance we needed to ensure our economy WILL FAIL.

Congratulations IDIOT.

Congratulations Pale Rider...in one paragraph, you encapsulated the ignorance, hatred and lack of any morals or conscience that is now what's called conservative values...

And with one line, you show how you liberals have absolutely no defense other than two bit, meaningless, empty and useless insults for a response to a factual argument.

STFU.
 
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Oh really? No one needs a car? How many do you have? I have an idea... why don't you SELL your car/s? Hmmm? Start walking that thirty mile one way commute to work every day. It ought to be especially enjoyable when it's 20 BELOW! Sheeeezuz... could you sound like more of an imbecile if you tried?

No one is ENTITLED to health care dumbass. It is not a RIGHT. It's a service provided by a private industry, or at least USED to be before you meddling, JACKASS, SOCIALIST, LIBERAL ASS WADS FUCKED WITH IT, and if you wanted it, you PAID for it. If you didn't want it, you DIDN'T pay for it, as it SHOULD be. But no, you fucking socialists, led by your uncouth, smart ass little dog eared marxist from Chicago just had to FUCK IT UP, and to put the frosting on the cake, it's the final insurance we needed to ensure our economy WILL FAIL.

Congratulations IDIOT.

Congratulations Pale Rider...in one paragraph, you encapsulated the ignorance, hatred and lack of any morals or conscience that is now what's called conservative values...

And with one line, you show how you liberals have absolutely no defense other than two bit, second rate, empty comments for a response to a factual argument.

STFU.

As a liberal, I defend your right to be ignorant, hateful and immoral...I just don't respect you.

I hope you refuse any benefits you receive from this bill. It would be hypocritical on your part to do otherwise.
 
Allah will judge those females who abort their babies. It is not man's place to do so.
 

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