Trophy Hunting -- Yea or Nay?

[martybegan]

Yo, its senseless, who can miss a sitting duck? The big animal has no chance of escaping, like a rabbit or bird?
So, if they want a big head hanging on the wall, buy a plastic one!!!

"GTP"

So you'd rather they die a slow painful death from starvation?

No, they'd rather poachers with AK 47's get every last one of them before "hunters" get them.

I do not consider most of what is sold as "hunting" in South Africa to be "hunting".

More like culling.

You go out into a National Forest in America, and kill a 5 year old white-tail buck, and you are a hunter.

Ordering a rhino or elephant on the internet, and flying to Africa to shoot it, is not hunting.

I can see that reasoning, but if there is a demand, and said demand can be used to fund conservation programs that help the overall specie, then let the canned hunter can hunt.

I am all for letting the canned hunter hunt.

If I won the lottery, I would not do it though.

Pachyderms never did shit to me, and lions are just big kitties.

Got no quarrel with either.

The only reason I could ever fathom shooting a predator is personal protection or live stock preservation.
They're just to damn cool to be shooting for no reason.

The key to your statement is: "without cause." My OP reveals several "causes" for shooting animals. The "cause" that would initiate your killing of a cockroach is the same one that farmer would use to kill a mole or a Starling or the one that a rancher would use to kill a predator.

Also, there's no reason why "survival" and "sport" can't be combined. But one doesn't necessarily need to hunt deer for either sport or survival. It could be that a man is on a tight budget and decides that it's more economical to shoot a deer for the meat than to buy a year's worth of beef. Also, as stated in the OP, a person could shoot a particular species of animal for the long term benefit to that species. When herds of deer become overpopulated then food becomes scarce and the entire herd is in danger of starvation and disease.

Food for thought.

I can at least semi-understand people that hunt and eat their food. But I still don't feel like it's the right thing to do in this day and age. It's not necessary. I think humans have a responsibility to be friends of nature as much as possible.

Hunting is absolutely necessary to keep populations under control.
You'd have starving deer all over the damn place if you didnt thin em out.

That's right wing propaganda. Nature can balance itself.

We ARE part of nature, we just overcame our lack of thick skin, claws and large teeth via our naturally larger and more complex brains.

You're only making my original point. Barbarians choose to see themselves as simply animals too.

We are animals that can make lasers. Sooner or later the hunting laser will be perfected and hunting and cooking will be combined into one!

Look at that deer.... ZAAAPP!!! who wants a venison streak?

 

[DriftingSand]

So you'd rather they die a slow painful death from starvation?

No, they'd rather poachers with AK 47's get every last one of them before "hunters" get them.

I do not consider most of what is sold as "hunting" in South Africa to be "hunting".

More like culling.

You go out into a National Forest in America, and kill a 5 year old white-tail buck, and you are a hunter.

Ordering a rhino or elephant on the internet, and flying to Africa to shoot it, is not hunting.

I can see that reasoning, but if there is a demand, and said demand can be used to fund conservation programs that help the overall specie, then let the canned hunter can hunt.

I am all for letting the canned hunter hunt.

If I won the lottery, I would not do it though.

Pachyderms never did shit to me, and lions are just big kitties.

Got no quarrel with either.

The only reason I could ever fathom shooting a predator is personal protection or live stock preservation.
They're just to damn cool to be shooting for no reason.

I can at least semi-understand people that hunt and eat their food. But I still don't feel like it's the right thing to do in this day and age. It's not necessary. I think humans have a responsibility to be friends of nature as much as possible.

Hunting is absolutely necessary to keep populations under control.
You'd have starving deer all over the damn place if you didnt thin em out.

That's right wing propaganda. Nature can balance itself.

We ARE part of nature, we just overcame our lack of thick skin, claws and large teeth via our naturally larger and more complex brains.

You're only making my original point. Barbarians choose to see themselves as simply animals too.

We are animals that can make lasers. Sooner or later the hunting laser will be perfected and hunting and cooking will be combined into one!

Look at that deer.... ZAAAPP!!! who wants a venison streak?

Maybe we could create some antler scrimshaw while we're at it.

 

[DriftingSand]

People who hunt animals are barbaric, imo.

LOL. Ever kill a spider? An ant? A wasp? An earwig? All are living things. Would you consider yourself "barbaric" for killing one? Since the beginning of time man has been hunting for survival. Some have killed to protect themselves from being ripped to pieces. Interestingly, I bet you're one of them who believe killing an unborn baby is perfectly acceptable. That's how the upside down mind of a Progressive generally works.

First off, comparing animals to insects is inhumane. But second off, I don't mindlessly kill insects w/o cause. I respect the ecosystem. Third off, hunting for survival and hunting for sport are two different things. Fourth off, I'm not a liberal deuche hypocrite, I'm not for abortion....I just happen to have an enlightened view upon respecting animals and people. Apparently in your left vs right world it's choose one or the other.

The key to your statement is: "without cause." My OP reveals several "causes" for shooting animals. The "cause" that would initiate your killing of a cockroach is the same one that farmer would use to kill a mole or a Starling or the one that a rancher would use to kill a predator.

Also, there's no reason why "survival" and "sport" can't be combined. But one doesn't necessarily need to hunt deer for either sport or survival. It could be that a man is on a tight budget and decides that it's more economical to shoot a deer for the meat than to buy a year's worth of beef. Also, as stated in the OP, a person could shoot a particular species of animal for the long term benefit to that species. When herds of deer become overpopulated then food becomes scarce and the entire herd is in danger of starvation and disease.

Food for thought.

I can at least semi-understand people that hunt and eat their food. But I still don't feel like it's the right thing to do in this day and age. It's not necessary. I think humans have a responsibility to be friends of nature as much as possible.

I've been a "friend of nature" for as long as I've hunted and fished.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

People who hunt animals are barbaric, imo.

LOL. Ever kill a spider? An ant? A wasp? An earwig? All are living things. Would you consider yourself "barbaric" for killing one? Since the beginning of time man has been hunting for survival. Some have killed to protect themselves from being ripped to pieces. Interestingly, I bet you're one of them who believe killing an unborn baby is perfectly acceptable. That's how the upside down mind of a Progressive generally works.

First off, comparing animals to insects is inhumane. But second off, I don't mindlessly kill insects w/o cause. I respect the ecosystem. Third off, hunting for survival and hunting for sport are two different things. Fourth off, I'm not a liberal deuche hypocrite, I'm not for abortion....I just happen to have an enlightened view upon respecting animals and people. Apparently in your left vs right world it's choose one or the other.

The key to your statement is: "without cause." My OP reveals several "causes" for shooting animals. The "cause" that would initiate your killing of a cockroach is the same one that farmer would use to kill a mole or a Starling or the one that a rancher would use to kill a predator.

Also, there's no reason why "survival" and "sport" can't be combined. But one doesn't necessarily need to hunt deer for either sport or survival. It could be that a man is on a tight budget and decides that it's more economical to shoot a deer for the meat than to buy a year's worth of beef. Also, as stated in the OP, a person could shoot a particular species of animal for the long term benefit to that species. When herds of deer become overpopulated then food becomes scarce and the entire herd is in danger of starvation and disease.

Food for thought.

I can at least semi-understand people that hunt and eat their food. But I still don't feel like it's the right thing to do in this day and age. It's not necessary. I think humans have a responsibility to be friends of nature as much as possible.

I've been a "friend of nature" for as long as I've hunted and fished.

Yea, cos friends kill friends.

 

[DriftingSand]

LOL. Ever kill a spider? An ant? A wasp? An earwig? All are living things. Would you consider yourself "barbaric" for killing one? Since the beginning of time man has been hunting for survival. Some have killed to protect themselves from being ripped to pieces. Interestingly, I bet you're one of them who believe killing an unborn baby is perfectly acceptable. That's how the upside down mind of a Progressive generally works.

First off, comparing animals to insects is inhumane. But second off, I don't mindlessly kill insects w/o cause. I respect the ecosystem. Third off, hunting for survival and hunting for sport are two different things. Fourth off, I'm not a liberal deuche hypocrite, I'm not for abortion....I just happen to have an enlightened view upon respecting animals and people. Apparently in your left vs right world it's choose one or the other.

The key to your statement is: "without cause." My OP reveals several "causes" for shooting animals. The "cause" that would initiate your killing of a cockroach is the same one that farmer would use to kill a mole or a Starling or the one that a rancher would use to kill a predator.

Also, there's no reason why "survival" and "sport" can't be combined. But one doesn't necessarily need to hunt deer for either sport or survival. It could be that a man is on a tight budget and decides that it's more economical to shoot a deer for the meat than to buy a year's worth of beef. Also, as stated in the OP, a person could shoot a particular species of animal for the long term benefit to that species. When herds of deer become overpopulated then food becomes scarce and the entire herd is in danger of starvation and disease.

Food for thought.

I can at least semi-understand people that hunt and eat their food. But I still don't feel like it's the right thing to do in this day and age. It's not necessary. I think humans have a responsibility to be friends of nature as much as possible.

I've been a "friend of nature" for as long as I've hunted and fished.

Yea, cos friends kill friends.

And eat 'em too.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

First off, comparing animals to insects is inhumane. But second off, I don't mindlessly kill insects w/o cause. I respect the ecosystem. Third off, hunting for survival and hunting for sport are two different things. Fourth off, I'm not a liberal deuche hypocrite, I'm not for abortion....I just happen to have an enlightened view upon respecting animals and people. Apparently in your left vs right world it's choose one or the other.

The key to your statement is: "without cause." My OP reveals several "causes" for shooting animals. The "cause" that would initiate your killing of a cockroach is the same one that farmer would use to kill a mole or a Starling or the one that a rancher would use to kill a predator.

Also, there's no reason why "survival" and "sport" can't be combined. But one doesn't necessarily need to hunt deer for either sport or survival. It could be that a man is on a tight budget and decides that it's more economical to shoot a deer for the meat than to buy a year's worth of beef. Also, as stated in the OP, a person could shoot a particular species of animal for the long term benefit to that species. When herds of deer become overpopulated then food becomes scarce and the entire herd is in danger of starvation and disease.

Food for thought.

I can at least semi-understand people that hunt and eat their food. But I still don't feel like it's the right thing to do in this day and age. It's not necessary. I think humans have a responsibility to be friends of nature as much as possible.

I've been a "friend of nature" for as long as I've hunted and fished.

Yea, cos friends kill friends.

And eat 'em too.

I'm sure you had X # of generations tell you how great and natural that hunting is. But its 2015; not 1815. You can be the change you want to see, bro. Stop terrorizing animals.

 

[DriftingSand]

The key to your statement is: "without cause." My OP reveals several "causes" for shooting animals. The "cause" that would initiate your killing of a cockroach is the same one that farmer would use to kill a mole or a Starling or the one that a rancher would use to kill a predator.

Also, there's no reason why "survival" and "sport" can't be combined. But one doesn't necessarily need to hunt deer for either sport or survival. It could be that a man is on a tight budget and decides that it's more economical to shoot a deer for the meat than to buy a year's worth of beef. Also, as stated in the OP, a person could shoot a particular species of animal for the long term benefit to that species. When herds of deer become overpopulated then food becomes scarce and the entire herd is in danger of starvation and disease.

Food for thought.

I can at least semi-understand people that hunt and eat their food. But I still don't feel like it's the right thing to do in this day and age. It's not necessary. I think humans have a responsibility to be friends of nature as much as possible.

I've been a "friend of nature" for as long as I've hunted and fished.

Yea, cos friends kill friends.

And eat 'em too.

I'm sure you had X # of generations tell you how great and natural that hunting is. But its 2015; not 1815. You can be the change you want to see, bro. Stop terrorizing animals.

1) Hunting is just as enjoyable today as it was a 1000 years ago.
2) Hunting is still necessary to keep herd sizes under control; thus, a benefit to wildlife.
3) Wild game tastes better and is healthier for you than hormone fed beef full of antibiotics.
4) Only pussies don't hunt.

 

[skye]

Leave animal creatures alone!

If hunters need to hang a trophy on the wall I suggest this instead.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

I can at least semi-understand people that hunt and eat their food. But I still don't feel like it's the right thing to do in this day and age. It's not necessary. I think humans have a responsibility to be friends of nature as much as possible.

I've been a "friend of nature" for as long as I've hunted and fished.

Yea, cos friends kill friends.

And eat 'em too.

I'm sure you had X # of generations tell you how great and natural that hunting is. But its 2015; not 1815. You can be the change you want to see, bro. Stop terrorizing animals.

1) Hunting is just as enjoyable today as it was a 1000 years ago.
2) Hunting is still necessary to keep herd sizes under control; thus, a benefit to wildlife.
3) Wild game tastes better and is healthier for you than hormone fed beef full of antibiotics.
4) Only pussies don't hunt.

Oh, you're a man's man cos 'pussies don't hunt!' Malarky! You think you need to prove you're the toughest of the tough? Become one of the select few hundred American mercenaries fighting against ISIS.

How come they don't hunt buffaloes in Yellowstone (a high tourism place) if hunting is necessary to population control?

Wow, you can press a trigger and kill an unsuspecting animal; oh aren't you just bad ass! (Sarcasm).

 

[9thIDdoc]

Antihunters are just city idiots with an abiding fear of the outdoors and those who enjoy it.

 

[Politico]

If you eat and use what you kill I have no objections. If you're only doing it for a picture, trophy, etc. then I have a big problem with it and would have no problem with anti-hunter hunters stalking the trophy hunters.

The US has been sending special forces members to help snipe out any poachers..

No they haven't lol.

 

[DriftingSand]

I've been a "friend of nature" for as long as I've hunted and fished.

Yea, cos friends kill friends.

And eat 'em too.

I'm sure you had X # of generations tell you how great and natural that hunting is. But its 2015; not 1815. You can be the change you want to see, bro. Stop terrorizing animals.

1) Hunting is just as enjoyable today as it was a 1000 years ago.
2) Hunting is still necessary to keep herd sizes under control; thus, a benefit to wildlife.
3) Wild game tastes better and is healthier for you than hormone fed beef full of antibiotics.
4) Only pussies don't hunt.

Oh, you're a man's man cos 'pussies don't hunt!' Malarky! You think you need to prove you're the toughest of the tough? Become one of the select few hundred American mercenaries fighting against ISIS.

How come they don't hunt buffaloes in Yellowstone (a high tourism place) if hunting is necessary to population control?

Wow, you can press a trigger and kill an unsuspecting animal; oh aren't you just bad ass! (Sarcasm).

1) The plural of buffalo is buffalo!
2) Regulated hunting and total annihilation are two, different things.
3) You can hunt buffalo in the USA. It's regulated and you can only hunt in certain areas.
4) You can't hunt buffalo in Yellowstone because it's a National Park that draws lots of tourists and because Yellowstone management is busy regulating the population of bison without the help of hunters: Yellowstone Initiates 2014 Wild Bison Slaughter The Wildlife News They're purposely killing off bison for the benefit of the herd of 3000 to 3500. Even Yellowstone management knows that killing is sometimes necessary.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

The key to your statement is: "without cause." My OP reveals several "causes" for shooting animals. The "cause" that would initiate your killing of a cockroach is the same one that farmer would use to kill a mole or a Starling or the one that a rancher would use to kill a predator.

Also, there's no reason why "survival" and "sport" can't be combined. But one doesn't necessarily need to hunt deer for either sport or survival. It could be that a man is on a tight budget and decides that it's more economical to shoot a deer for the meat than to buy a year's worth of beef. Also, as stated in the OP, a person could shoot a particular species of animal for the long term benefit to that species. When herds of deer become overpopulated then food becomes scarce and the entire herd is in danger of starvation and disease.

Food for thought.

I can at least semi-understand people that hunt and eat their food. But I still don't feel like it's the right thing to do in this day and age. It's not necessary. I think humans have a responsibility to be friends of nature as much as possible.

Hunting is absolutely necessary to keep populations under control.
You'd have starving deer all over the damn place if you didnt thin em out.

That's right wing propaganda. Nature can balance itself.

What a dumbass.. How exactly does that happen?
THEY STARVE TO DEATH you fucken dolt!

How many dears have you come across that were near starvation? Check and mate.

Sorry,I cant take anything someone says seriously when they cant even spell ''deer" properly. And to add to the stupid you put an "S" at the end.
And yes I have seen starving "deer".

 

[DriftingSand]

I can at least semi-understand people that hunt and eat their food. But I still don't feel like it's the right thing to do in this day and age. It's not necessary. I think humans have a responsibility to be friends of nature as much as possible.

Hunting is absolutely necessary to keep populations under control.
You'd have starving deer all over the damn place if you didnt thin em out.

That's right wing propaganda. Nature can balance itself.

What a dumbass.. How exactly does that happen?
THEY STARVE TO DEATH you fucken dolt!

How many dears have you come across that were near starvation? Check and mate.

Sorry,I cant take anything someone says seriously when they cant even spell ''deer" properly. And to add to the stupid you put an "S" at the end.
And yes I have seen starving "deer".

LOL. You mean you have seen starving "dears." Hahahaha

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

The key to your statement is: "without cause." My OP reveals several "causes" for shooting animals. The "cause" that would initiate your killing of a cockroach is the same one that farmer would use to kill a mole or a Starling or the one that a rancher would use to kill a predator.

Also, there's no reason why "survival" and "sport" can't be combined. But one doesn't necessarily need to hunt deer for either sport or survival. It could be that a man is on a tight budget and decides that it's more economical to shoot a deer for the meat than to buy a year's worth of beef. Also, as stated in the OP, a person could shoot a particular species of animal for the long term benefit to that species. When herds of deer become overpopulated then food becomes scarce and the entire herd is in danger of starvation and disease.

Food for thought.

I can at least semi-understand people that hunt and eat their food. But I still don't feel like it's the right thing to do in this day and age. It's not necessary. I think humans have a responsibility to be friends of nature as much as possible.

I've been a "friend of nature" for as long as I've hunted and fished.

Yea, cos friends kill friends.

And eat 'em too.

I'm sure you had X # of generations tell you how great and natural that hunting is. But its 2015; not 1815. You can be the change you want to see, bro. Stop terrorizing animals.

Terrorizing? I promise you the deer doesnt even know what hit him.
Unlike that cow who watches his buddies get the bolt gun and can smell the blood from the hundreds of cows that came before him.
Stop with the fake sympathy....bro.

 

[Moonglow]

If you eat and use what you kill I have no objections. If you're only doing it for a picture, trophy, etc. then I have a big problem with it and would have no problem with anti-hunter hunters stalking the trophy hunters.

The US has been sending special forces members to help snipe out any poachers..

No they haven't lol.

Sure they have been....Saw a show on it last week..

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Yea, cos friends kill friends.

And eat 'em too.

I'm sure you had X # of generations tell you how great and natural that hunting is. But its 2015; not 1815. You can be the change you want to see, bro. Stop terrorizing animals.

1) Hunting is just as enjoyable today as it was a 1000 years ago.
2) Hunting is still necessary to keep herd sizes under control; thus, a benefit to wildlife.
3) Wild game tastes better and is healthier for you than hormone fed beef full of antibiotics.
4) Only pussies don't hunt.

Oh, you're a man's man cos 'pussies don't hunt!' Malarky! You think you need to prove you're the toughest of the tough? Become one of the select few hundred American mercenaries fighting against ISIS.

How come they don't hunt buffaloes in Yellowstone (a high tourism place) if hunting is necessary to population control?

Wow, you can press a trigger and kill an unsuspecting animal; oh aren't you just bad ass! (Sarcasm).

1) The plural of buffalo is buffalo!
2) Regulated hunting and total annihilation are two, different things.
3) You can hunt buffalo in the USA. It's regulated and you can only hunt in certain areas.
4) You can't hunt buffalo in Yellowstone because it's a National Park that draws lots of tourists and because Yellowstone management is busy regulating the population of bison without the help of hunters: Yellowstone Initiates 2014 Wild Bison Slaughter The Wildlife News They're purposely killing off bison for the benefit of the herd of 3000 to 3500. Even Yellowstone management knows that killing is sometimes necessary.

That's not population control, dude. That's f'ing politics like anything else. That's a tribe of Indians making money on killing 25 buffalo and selling their meat at market. Nice try; but even you had to have know that was malarky. You probably were hoping I wouldn't read the fine print though.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

I can at least semi-understand people that hunt and eat their food. But I still don't feel like it's the right thing to do in this day and age. It's not necessary. I think humans have a responsibility to be friends of nature as much as possible.

I've been a "friend of nature" for as long as I've hunted and fished.

Yea, cos friends kill friends.

And eat 'em too.

I'm sure you had X # of generations tell you how great and natural that hunting is. But its 2015; not 1815. You can be the change you want to see, bro. Stop terrorizing animals.

Terrorizing? I promise you the deer doesnt even know what hit him.
Unlike that cow who watches his buddies get the bolt gun and can smell the blood from the hundreds of cows that came before him.
Stop with the fake sympathy....bro.

Deer often don't die right away. And if you want to argue that slaughterhouses are inhumane, then fine. But it's not an argument for hunting imo.

 

[Politico]

If you eat and use what you kill I have no objections. If you're only doing it for a picture, trophy, etc. then I have a big problem with it and would have no problem with anti-hunter hunters stalking the trophy hunters.

The US has been sending special forces members to help snipe out any poachers..

No they haven't lol.

Sure they have been....Saw a show on it last week..

Yes saw it on tv so it must be true lol.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

I've been a "friend of nature" for as long as I've hunted and fished.

Yea, cos friends kill friends.

And eat 'em too.

I'm sure you had X # of generations tell you how great and natural that hunting is. But its 2015; not 1815. You can be the change you want to see, bro. Stop terrorizing animals.

Terrorizing? I promise you the deer doesnt even know what hit him.
Unlike that cow who watches his buddies get the bolt gun and can smell the blood from the hundreds of cows that came before him.
Stop with the fake sympathy....bro.

Deer often don't die right away. And if you want to argue that slaughterhouses are inhumane, then fine. But it's not an argument for hunting imo.

Doesnt really matter what you think. The fact remains that deer have to be thinned out or starvation becomes a problem.
You'd rather see them suffer for months,id rather see them put down quickly.
You endorse sickness and hunger for the entire herd,while I endorse the quick death of a few to keep the majority healthy.
You're one sick individual.