Trinity, there is not one that is all 3

[RetiredGySgt]

The belief that there is a Holy Trinity, that encompasses God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit as one single being is NOT in the Bible. This is a false teaching.

Read John in any version you wish ( I use the King James Version). Through out John Jesus himself repeatedly describes himself as the SON of God, as NOT God, and that God uses the Holy Spirit. He states he is NOT God, but rather his Son. That everything he does he does because his father lets him do it. He says it in NUMEROUS passages in John, in his own words.

 

[hortysir]

Is Jesus not referred to as The Word?

One only has to get as far as John 1:1 to disprove your claim.

In the beginning was the Word. And the Word was with God and the Word was God.

 

[rightwinger]

Of the three

God still rules. He is the big guy
Jesus is the Junior partner

The Holy Spirit is kind of wimpy and the other two pick on him

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The belief that there is a Holy Trinity, that encompasses God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit as one single being is NOT in the Bible. This is a false teaching.

Read John in any version you wish ( I use the King James Version). Through out John Jesus himself repeatedly describes himself as the SON of God, as NOT God, and that God uses the Holy Spirit. He states he is NOT God, but rather his Son. That everything he does he does because his father lets him do it. He says it in NUMEROUS passages in John, in his own words.

You see the word

John 1:1
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

and who is the word?

John 1:14
14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

 

[AmericanFirst]

Of the three

God still rules. He is the big guy
Jesus is the Junior partner

The Holy Spirit is kind of wimpy and the other two pick on him

You are definetly twisted.

 

[AmericanFirst]

The belief that there is a Holy Trinity, that encompasses God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit as one single being is NOT in the Bible. This is a false teaching.

Read John in any version you wish ( I use the King James Version). Through out John Jesus himself repeatedly describes himself as the SON of God, as NOT God, and that God uses the Holy Spirit. He states he is NOT God, but rather his Son. That everything he does he does because his father lets him do it. He says it in NUMEROUS passages in John, in his own words.

Wrong. The Bible does support, and say, there is a Holy Trinity. You need to read the whole Bible. But then the book of John, contrary to your statement, supports the Holy Trinity. Try again.

 

[Marie888]

The belief that there is a Holy Trinity, that encompasses God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit as one single being is NOT in the Bible. This is a false teaching.

Read John in any version you wish ( I use the King James Version). Through out John Jesus himself repeatedly describes himself as the SON of God, as NOT God, and that God uses the Holy Spirit. He states he is NOT God, but rather his Son. That everything he does he does because his father lets him do it. He says it in NUMEROUS passages in John, in his own words.

This gets interesting a bit when talking of the Trinity. May I please ask, Sgt.. do you call Jesus Christ your Lord and Savior?

If you say yes, then what you said can only be false. Because how can you call Jesus Christ your Lord, when God has said repeatedly throughout His Word - there is only ONE God?

Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD. Deuteronomy 6:4

Jesus and God are one.....

I and my Father are one. John 10:30

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God...All things were made by him...He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not...And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us John 1:1, 3, 10, 14
Jesus saith...he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? John 14:9
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 1 John 5:7

Jesus is from everlasting...

But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah...out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting. Micah 5:2

God is from everlasting....
The LORD reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the LORD is clothed with strength, wherewith he hath girded himself: the world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved. Thy throne is established of old: thou art from everlasting. Psalms 93:1-2

God is 'I am'.
And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. (Exodus 3:14)

Jesus is 'I am'.
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
(John 8:58)

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This verse in particular shows Father, Son, and Holy Spirit:

"And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: GOD was manifest in the FLESH, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, BELIEVED ON in the world, RECEIVED UP into glory."
--1 Timothy 3:16

However, if you say no, that Jesus Christ is not the Lord; then it is understandable what you said above, but it is still false and/or as per His Word.

The whole point of the "Revelation" of Jesus Christ, is that we KNOW He is the Lord.
Not God, the Father, but God, the Son. Fully man, and Fully God. And this is not revealed by "man" but by through the Spirit.

Just because we do not fully understand something; doesn't mean it isn't true.

 

[Marie888]

The belief that there is a Holy Trinity, that encompasses God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit as one single being is NOT in the Bible. This is a false teaching.

Read John in any version you wish ( I use the King James Version). Through out John Jesus himself repeatedly describes himself as the SON of God, as NOT God, and that God uses the Holy Spirit. He states he is NOT God, but rather his Son. That everything he does he does because his father lets him do it. He says it in NUMEROUS passages in John, in his own words.

Wrong. The Bible does support, and say, there is a Holy Trinity. You need to read the whole Bible. But then the book of John, contrary to your statement, supports the Holy Trinity. Try again.

Exactly.

 

[uscitizen]

The trinity idea was floated by the catholic church to consolidate and strengthen their power. Nothing more.

 

[rightwinger]

Of the three

God still rules. He is the big guy
Jesus is the Junior partner

The Holy Spirit is kind of wimpy and the other two pick on him

You are definetly twisted.

Who gets top billing? The Father
Then the Son

Holy Spirit is a weak third. His god powers are nowhere close to the other two.

 

[hortysir]

This gets interesting a bit when talking of the Trinity. May I please ask, Sgt.. do you call Jesus Christ your Lord and Savior?

If you say yes, then what you said can only be false. Because how can you call Jesus Christ your Lord, when God has said repeatedly throughout His Word - there is only ONE God?

If he says yes to your question that makes his post blasphemy against the Holy Spirit; the one and only sin that God does not forgive.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Of the three

God still rules. He is the big guy
Jesus is the Junior partner

The Holy Spirit is kind of wimpy and the other two pick on him

You are definetly twisted.

Who gets top billing? The Father
Then the Son

Holy Spirit is a weak third. His god powers are nowhere close to the other two.

Dude really according to Christian's making fun of (mocking) the Holy Ghost is the only sin that is unforgivable. If I were you I wouldn't go down that road.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

This gets interesting a bit when talking of the Trinity. May I please ask, Sgt.. do you call Jesus Christ your Lord and Savior?

If you say yes, then what you said can only be false. Because how can you call Jesus Christ your Lord, when God has said repeatedly throughout His Word - there is only ONE God?

If he says yes to your question that makes his post blasphemy against the Holy Spirit; the one and only sin that God does not forgive.

I just posted something similar to right winger Me being a non Christian even I would never go down that road.

 

[hortysir]

Creepy, ain't it?

 

[Azrael]

The belief that there is a Holy Trinity, that encompasses God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit as one single being is NOT in the Bible. This is a false teaching.

Read John in any version you wish ( I use the King James Version). Through out John Jesus himself repeatedly describes himself as the SON of God, as NOT God, and that God uses the Holy Spirit. He states he is NOT God, but rather his Son. That everything he does he does because his father lets him do it. He says it in NUMEROUS passages in John, in his own words.

Wrong. The Bible does support, and say, there is a Holy Trinity. You need to read the whole Bible. But then the book of John, contrary to your statement, supports the Holy Trinity. Try again.

Which part of the new testament displays this information?
Not that I agree with it, just want to know where.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The belief that there is a Holy Trinity, that encompasses God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit as one single being is NOT in the Bible. This is a false teaching.

Read John in any version you wish ( I use the King James Version). Through out John Jesus himself repeatedly describes himself as the SON of God, as NOT God, and that God uses the Holy Spirit. He states he is NOT God, but rather his Son. That everything he does he does because his father lets him do it. He says it in NUMEROUS passages in John, in his own words.

Wrong. The Bible does support, and say, there is a Holy Trinity. You need to read the whole Bible. But then the book of John, contrary to your statement, supports the Holy Trinity. Try again.

Which part of the new testament displays this information?
Not that I agree with it, just want to know where.

John 1:1 and John 1:14

 

[Azrael]

Wrong. The Bible does support, and say, there is a Holy Trinity. You need to read the whole Bible. But then the book of John, contrary to your statement, supports the Holy Trinity. Try again.

Which part of the new testament displays this information?
Not that I agree with it, just want to know where.

John 1:1 and John 1:14

"John 1:1
The Word Became Flesh
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 1:14
The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth."

Yep it most certainty says that,
but I do not feel that it's true I feel that this is one mans opinion of a great man who was not God but just his son and greatest prophet.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Which part of the new testament displays this information?
Not that I agree with it, just want to know where.

John 1:1 and John 1:14

"John 1:1
The Word Became Flesh
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 1:14
The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth."

Yep it most certainty says that,
but I do not feel that it's true I feel that this is one mans opinion of a great man who was not God but just his son and greatest prophet.

OH one mans opinion?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

I can cite passage after passage where John and Jesus sate that Jesus is the Son, that Jesus has only the power give n him by his Father God. Passages where Jesus states he is NOT God, he is his son.

And the Bible talks of other Gods. Only one God is supreme. Jesus was God's first creation. He is as one with God, they think and act alike but they are not one being. God gave to Jesus the power to help him create everything after Jesus.

John 1:33 tells us that God commanded John to baptize Jesus with the holy Ghost, 3 separate entities, 2 visible to John at the same time.

John 1:34 states that this is Jesus the SON of God.

In Jesus own words he states he is not God but his son. In John 2:16 he reprimands those selling in the temple and warns them not to make HIS FATHER'S Hoses a store.

John 3:16 through 19 Jesus informs that he, THE SON of GOD was sent to save the world.

I can go on and on with JUST John.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I can cite passage after passage where John and Jesus sate that Jesus is the Son, that Jesus has only the power give n him by his Father God. Passages where Jesus states he is NOT God, he is his son.

And the Bible talks of other Gods. Only one God is supreme. Jesus was God's first creation. He is as one with God, they think and act alike but they are not one being. God gave to Jesus the power to help him create everything after Jesus.

John 1:33 tells us that God commanded John to baptize Jesus with the holy Ghost, 3 separate entities, 2 visible to John at the same time.

John 1:34 states that this is Jesus the SON of God.

In Jesus own words he states he is not God but his son. In John 2:16 he reprimands those selling in the temple and warns them not to make HIS FATHER'S Hoses a store.

John 3:16 through 19 Jesus informs that he, THE SON of GOD was sent to save the world.

I can go on and on with JUST John.

What about this?

The belief that there is a Holy Trinity, that encompasses God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit as one single being is NOT in the Bible. This is a false teaching.

Read John in any version you wish ( I use the King James Version). Through out John Jesus himself repeatedly describes himself as the SON of God, as NOT God, and that God uses the Holy Spirit. He states he is NOT God, but rather his Son. That everything he does he does because his father lets him do it. He says it in NUMEROUS passages in John, in his own words.

You see the word

John 1:1
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

and who is the word?

John 1:14
14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.