Top Communist Admits: Communist Party ‘Utilizes’ the Democratic Party – a Lesson for

[Siete]

with any luck another RW'r will start another thread on the same subject and prove to the board how smart they really aren't...

Duurrrrrrrrr

 

[NYcarbineer]

Something tells me that Redfish doesn't know that much about communism's specific labor theories. Also, there has NEVER, EVER BEEN a communist government on this earth. Communism is an ideology that is unworkable in modern economic society, or in large populations. Communism works quite well, however, in small communities or population groups.

Redfish confuses communism with totalitarian regimes such as the USSR, North Korea, or China.

so you support the communist party joining with the democrat party? At what level of US government do you want communist control?

Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security are communism. Do you support abolishing them?

 

[paulitician]

Obviously Communists have found a home in the Democratic Party. Is that really news to anyone? I mean, the current U.S. President is a Communist wanker for God's sake. Ya gotta give this guy some props, he's one of the very few honest Communists out there.

 

[danielpalos]

Thank goodness, socialism starts with a social Contract.

Our Founding Fathers already Told us what to do with ours:

We the people of the United States,
in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity,
do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.​

 

[DriftingSand]

If you look at Liberals and Conservatives, which parties do they align with? Liberals=Democrats, Republicans = Conservatives. Which party is more aligned with Communists? Liberals run away from being tied to Communism. Conservatives get lumped in with the Tea Party and they embrace it. If given the choice, would America choose Tea Party or Communism?

Our Founders chose Tea Party (from whence the name was derived). Stalin and the Bolsheviks chose Communism. Case is at rest.

 

[danielpalos]

dudes, the chief defining characteristic is the cognitive dissonance of the right while they proclaim their "gospel Truth" in public venues.

why do you believe the right had to practice their Communism, in Cuba?

 

[Pogo]

I thought they merged decades ago?

No, you're thinking of the GOP and KKK.

What? I thought the Democrats started the KKK and had their Grand Wizard Senator Byrd in office until quite recently?

Nope, Confederate soldiers started the KKK. It died by 1880 and then was revived in 1915 by a Georgia salesman named Simmons. That second incarnation did spread beyond the South and did dabble in politics a bit, elected some governors, senators and city council in Anaheim (and they were all Republicans anyway), but the KKK was never run by politicians. It saw itself as a moral crusader. You know, loose women, Jews, Catholics, adulterers, all those subversives. As for Byrd, he quit in the '40s before he ever ran for office at all.

Shit you hear in the blogosphere...

 

[The2ndAmendment]

I thought they merged decades ago?

No, you're thinking of the GOP and KKK.

What? I thought the Democrats started the KKK and had their Grand Wizard Senator Byrd in office until quite recently?

Nope

Woah, you're claiming the Democrats are not the party of the KKK?

Anything you say past that point is bullshit.

 

[Pogo]

I thought they merged decades ago?

No, you're thinking of the GOP and KKK.

Nope, Robert KKK Byrd was a democrat, so was Al Gore Sr.

Actually everybody in the South was Democrat -- at least everybody who wanted to get elected. That's how it was is in a one-party State. Didn't matter whether you were a racist or not, if you sought public office, your election was the primary. Get through that, it was all downhill. That's how it was until Strom Thurmond started the exodus, a few months after the Civil Rights Act.

 

[Pogo]

I thought they merged decades ago?

No, you're thinking of the GOP and KKK.

What? I thought the Democrats started the KKK and had their Grand Wizard Senator Byrd in office until quite recently?

Nope

Woah, you're claiming the Democrats are not the party of the KKK?

Anything you say past that point is bullshit.

The KKK (second incarnation) did dabble in politics a bit as I said above. Got Edward Jackson and Clarence Morley elected Governors of Indiana and Colorado respectively, Rice Means elected Colorado Senator , the Anaheim city council -- as well as some judgeships all of these around 1924-25, and all of them Republicans.

This is not because of any affinity with Republicans or Democrats; it's simply what got results in Indiana, Ohio, Colorado, Anaheim, and indeed other places in the West:

>> The Washington State Klan during the 1920s was part of the second of three waves of KKK activity in America. The second KKK was founded in 1915 and gained significant membership immediately following World War I. Though short-lived, it was a powerful anti-immigrant, anti-Catholic, anti-radical, white supremacist organization that promoted "100 percent Americanism." The second KKK claimed over 4 million members across the country; briefly dominated state legislatures of Colorado, Indiana, and Oregon; and in 1924 shaped presidential politics and helped pressure politicians to pass the most severe immigration restriction in the history of the United States. <<
​

The KKK never had a "party". To the extent it influenced politics, anyone who got elected or put in a position of power used whatever means and whatever party machine would get them there. But their basis was never politics anyway -- it was a self-appointed moral crusade to, in its tiny little mind, "protect" its country from the evil threats of communism, immorality, adultery, Jews, Catholics, and above all, the unspeakable horror of white women hooking up with black men.

Racism.. nationalism and anti-immigrationism... "Americanism".... the idea of white WASP supremacy... these were rampant in this country a hundred years ago, which is why William Simmons was able to revive the KKK in its white-sheet burning-cross version and spread it so far. It's part of our history. It's the same period that produced the Tulsa Race Riots (where the KKK got Governor Walton, who tried to drive them out, removed from office) as well as rampant lynchings throughout the country as far afield as Duluth (an event immortalized in the lyrics of Bob Dylan's "Desolation Row").

This is not "bullshit"; it's our history, the part the schoolbooks somehow forget to tell us. Denying it --- or pretending you can abuse it as a political football -- that's bullshit.

 

[BluesLegend]

Something tells me that Redfish doesn't know that much about communism's specific labor theories. Also, there has NEVER, EVER BEEN a communist government on this earth. Communism is an ideology that is unworkable in modern economic society, or in large populations. Communism works quite well, however, in small communities or population groups.

Redfish confuses communism with totalitarian regimes such as the USSR, North Korea, or China.

so you support the communist party joining with the democrat party? At what level of US government do you want communist control?

Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security are communism. Do you support abolishing them?

All three grossly mismanaged and looted by government hacks. Social Security was looted to the tune of $2 trillion dollars and government doesn't know how they are going to pay us back our money.

 

[NYcarbineer]

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Woah, you're claiming the Democrats are not the party of the KKK?

Anything you say past that point is bullshit.

The party platform of the KKK starts out with this:


The recognition that America was founded as a Christian nation.

As James Madison, known as the "Chief Architect of the Constitution" stated; " We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future of all of our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves to control ourselves to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God."

Do you think most Democrats believe that? Do you think most Conservatives believe that?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Something tells me that Redfish doesn't know that much about communism's specific labor theories. Also, there has NEVER, EVER BEEN a communist government on this earth. Communism is an ideology that is unworkable in modern economic society, or in large populations. Communism works quite well, however, in small communities or population groups.

Redfish confuses communism with totalitarian regimes such as the USSR, North Korea, or China.

so you support the communist party joining with the democrat party? At what level of US government do you want communist control?

Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security are communism. Do you support abolishing them?

All three grossly mismanaged and looted by government hacks. Social Security was looted to the tune of $2 trillion dollars and government doesn't know how they are going to pay us back our money.

You're an idiot.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Why doesn't this thread surprise me started by someone who lives in what Jimmy Breslin calls a low IQ state, the home of david duke

I don't live in New Jersey. Duke is a racist asshole. We have no use for him or his kind here.

I'll bet you agree with more of the KKK platform than you do with the Democratic Party platform.

Want to take that challenge?

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Want to take that challenge?

As soon as you complete the previous challenge in the other thread that you ran away from. You posted the Supremacy Clause, and I posted the Constitutional Convention Clause.

Do you admit defeat, that the Several States are the ultimate power in our government, or can you show me a clause that allows the federal government to overrule a Convention of the Several States?

 

[Pogo]

Look folks, the OP is merely pointing out a fact that the communist party is supporting the democrat party. If you have no problems with that, fine. But many americans find that very dangerous.

Personally I have no problem with that since there's no such thing as "the democrat party" anyway.
I'll put more consideration into sources that actually know what they're talking about.

 

[Pogo]

I see Redfish's hair-on-fire blog reading is moving right along. He's up to 1948.

So you support communism as a major democrat platform plank?

I support knowing one's history and how the McCarthyites liked to toss around monster stories to scare the gullible. Like 1948. Because those who remain ignorant of their own history are doomed to repeat it.

Moreover, I went back and read the OP (for the first time). It's not asserting the Democratic Party sees the CP as a useful avenue. It's asserting the opposite. So much for (more) dishonest charcterizations, let alone the complete dearth of analysis in favor of innuendo and out the other.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Want to take that challenge?

As soon as you complete the previous challenge in the other thread that you ran away from. You posted the Supremacy Clause, and I posted the Constitutional Convention Clause.

Do you admit defeat, that the Several States are the ultimate power in our government, or can you show me a clause that allows the federal government to overrule a Convention of the Several States?

The People are the ultimate power.

 

[candycorn]

If you look at Liberals and Conservatives, which parties do they align with? Liberals=Democrats, Republicans = Conservatives. Which party is more aligned with Communists? Liberals run away from being tied to Communism. Conservatives get lumped in with the Tea Party and they embrace it. If given the choice, would America choose Tea Party or Communism?

Our Founders chose Tea Party (from whence the name was derived). Stalin and the Bolsheviks chose Communism. Case is at rest.

Oh brother.

No shit-brains; The current TEA party is an acronym for Taxed Enough Already. You don't even read your own history much less anything having to do with the rest of the world.

 

[BluesLegend]

Something tells me that Redfish doesn't know that much about communism's specific labor theories. Also, there has NEVER, EVER BEEN a communist government on this earth. Communism is an ideology that is unworkable in modern economic society, or in large populations. Communism works quite well, however, in small communities or population groups.

Redfish confuses communism with totalitarian regimes such as the USSR, North Korea, or China.

so you support the communist party joining with the democrat party? At what level of US government do you want communist control?

Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security are communism. Do you support abolishing them?

All three grossly mismanaged and looted by government hacks. Social Security was looted to the tune of $2 trillion dollars and government doesn't know how they are going to pay us back our money.

You're an idiot.

A certified blithering idiot calling someone else an idiot really isn't effective. lol