To You Zionists

[Sixties Fan]

Can you explain why, with the Billions (yes, Billions!!!) of dollars given to the Palestinians by the USA, Europe, and Muslim countries, the Palestinians continue to be in the situation they are in, instead of being , like Israel, an advanced Nation.

"The UN estimated that more than 7,000 homes for 10,000 families were razed, together with an additional 89,000 homes damaged, of which roughly 10,000 were severely affected by the bombing. Rebuilding costs were calculated to run from 4-6 billions dollars, over 20 years."
2014 Israel–Gaza conflict - Wikipedia

Wrong thread, but I will play.

The 2014 Gaza war was started by Hamas.
Hamas, being Muslim, follows the teachings of Islam.
Since 1948 Muslims decided that any Muslim who dies for the destruction of Israel goes to Paradise.
Something which does not exist in the Quran, but.....those are the Muslims of today.

Now, when one attacks Israel from civilian centers, from Mosques, schools, homes, etc....there are consequences, because those places are NOT protected by the rules of combat if one attacks from any of them.

In other words, Hamas is the sole responsible entity for the thousands of homes, building and Muslim lives lost in that war, and in all previous wars where they have done exactly the same thing.

Hizbollah did exactly the same thing in the last war, firing from civilian homes, and other places where they should not have been. Lebanon paid the price. And is about to do it again if they really intend on starting a war in 2018 hiding amongst civilians again, as Israel knows that they are right now.

Now, where exactly did the IDF hide amongst Jewish and non Jewish civilians to counter the attacks from Hamas or Hizbollah?
By all means let me know.

There should be tons of International reporting about how Israel fired from civilian homes, hospitals, etc within Israel to respond to the Hamas rockets in 2014.

 

[Bleipriester]

If you think there is a big difference between Jews and Muslims, you are wrong. Israel has become an advanced nation with help of the US. If you think there are Jews with caps and hats, braids ect developing stuff, you are wrong. They are that conservative, they simply can´t. Most of the stuff is overrated by the American worshipers, anyway. Take the Iron Dome for example. It is by far not as good as the worshipers claim. Or the Merkava IV´s Trophy hardkill system, which is basically an interactive reactive armor.

Is that right? See thread titled --- Israel: Helping To Make A Better World. Enjoy!

I know that thread!

"Bow down! Israeli sidewalk swept properly! Praise the greatness of Israel or be an anti-semite, anti-semite!"

EXCELLENT POINT! We need a thread to educate the Zionists titled --- Palestinians: Helping To Make A Better World. Don't you agree?

How about "Germany Helping To Make A Better World"

From A like Aryanism to Z like Zionism we literally invented everything! How great we are, there is no word to express. So overwhelming fantastic. We even invented rolls!

You do not like staying on the subject. Don't worry, we can figure out why.

You wish to create threads about Germany and other countries making a better world? Go to the right forums and start them.

You, like many others, sidestepped what the Palestinians have brought to better the world. So be it.

Oh, and THANK YOU for your subtle comparison between Aryanism and Zionism.

Glad to see that you truly know what you are talking about, and what you came to this thread and forum to do.

Why don´t you reply to our discussion but intervene with nonsense in another?

 

[Bleipriester]

If you think there is a big difference between Jews and Muslims, you are wrong. Israel has become an advanced nation with help of the US. If you think there are Jews with caps and hats, braids ect developing stuff, you are wrong. They are that conservative, they simply can´t. Most of the stuff is overrated by the American worshipers, anyway. Take the Iron Dome for example. It is by far not as good as the worshipers claim. Or the Merkava IV´s Trophy hardkill system, which is basically an interactive reactive armor.

Is that right? See thread titled --- Israel: Helping To Make A Better World. Enjoy!

I know that thread!

"Bow down! Israeli sidewalk swept properly! Praise the greatness of Israel or be an anti-semite, anti-semite!"

EXCELLENT POINT! We need a thread to educate the Zionists titled --- Palestinians: Helping To Make A Better World. Don't you agree?

How about "Germany Helping To Make A Better World"

From A like Aryanism to Z like Zionism we literally invented everything! How great we are, there is no word to express. So overwhelming fantastic. We even invented rolls!

RIGHT ON!

Never saw such strange facial expressions. And what is that supposed to be? A handshake?

 

[Sixties Fan]

Is that right? See thread titled --- Israel: Helping To Make A Better World. Enjoy!

I know that thread!

"Bow down! Israeli sidewalk swept properly! Praise the greatness of Israel or be an anti-semite, anti-semite!"

EXCELLENT POINT! We need a thread to educate the Zionists titled --- Palestinians: Helping To Make A Better World. Don't you agree?

How about "Germany Helping To Make A Better World"

From A like Aryanism to Z like Zionism we literally invented everything! How great we are, there is no word to express. So overwhelming fantastic. We even invented rolls!

You do not like staying on the subject. Don't worry, we can figure out why.

You wish to create threads about Germany and other countries making a better world? Go to the right forums and start them.

You, like many others, sidestepped what the Palestinians have brought to better the world. So be it.

Oh, and THANK YOU for your subtle comparison between Aryanism and Zionism.

Glad to see that you truly know what you are talking about, and what you came to this thread and forum to do.

Why don´t you reply to our discussion but intervene with nonsense in another?

English comprehension issues, is it?
Nothing I can do about it.

 

[Bleipriester]

I know that thread!

"Bow down! Israeli sidewalk swept properly! Praise the greatness of Israel or be an anti-semite, anti-semite!"

EXCELLENT POINT! We need a thread to educate the Zionists titled --- Palestinians: Helping To Make A Better World. Don't you agree?

How about "Germany Helping To Make A Better World"

From A like Aryanism to Z like Zionism we literally invented everything! How great we are, there is no word to express. So overwhelming fantastic. We even invented rolls!

You do not like staying on the subject. Don't worry, we can figure out why.

You wish to create threads about Germany and other countries making a better world? Go to the right forums and start them.

You, like many others, sidestepped what the Palestinians have brought to better the world. So be it.

Oh, and THANK YOU for your subtle comparison between Aryanism and Zionism.

Glad to see that you truly know what you are talking about, and what you came to this thread and forum to do.

Why don´t you reply to our discussion but intervene with nonsense in another?

English comprehension issues, is it?
Nothing I can do about it.

Everybody can see you are doing exactly what you blame on me.

 

[Sixties Fan]

EXCELLENT POINT! We need a thread to educate the Zionists titled --- Palestinians: Helping To Make A Better World. Don't you agree?

How about "Germany Helping To Make A Better World"

From A like Aryanism to Z like Zionism we literally invented everything! How great we are, there is no word to express. So overwhelming fantastic. We even invented rolls!

You do not like staying on the subject. Don't worry, we can figure out why.

You wish to create threads about Germany and other countries making a better world? Go to the right forums and start them.

You, like many others, sidestepped what the Palestinians have brought to better the world. So be it.

Oh, and THANK YOU for your subtle comparison between Aryanism and Zionism.

Glad to see that you truly know what you are talking about, and what you came to this thread and forum to do.

Why don´t you reply to our discussion but intervene with nonsense in another?

English comprehension issues, is it?
Nothing I can do about it.

Everybody can see you are doing exactly what you blame on me.

In other words, you cannot discuss/respond to what I wrote in my posts in answer to yours.

Thanks

 

[Bleipriester]

Can you explain why, with the Billions (yes, Billions!!!) of dollars given to the Palestinians by the USA, Europe, and Muslim countries, the Palestinians continue to be in the situation they are in, instead of being , like Israel, an advanced Nation.

"The UN estimated that more than 7,000 homes for 10,000 families were razed, together with an additional 89,000 homes damaged, of which roughly 10,000 were severely affected by the bombing. Rebuilding costs were calculated to run from 4-6 billions dollars, over 20 years."
2014 Israel–Gaza conflict - Wikipedia

Wrong thread, but I will play.

The 2014 Gaza war was started by Hamas.
Hamas, being Muslim, follows the teachings of Islam.
Since 1948 Muslims decided that any Muslim who dies for the destruction of Israel goes to Paradise.
Something which does not exist in the Quran, but.....those are the Muslims of today.

Now, when one attacks Israel from civilian centers, from Mosques, schools, homes, etc....there are consequences, because those places are NOT protected by the rules of combat if one attacks from any of them.

In other words, Hamas is the sole responsible entity for the thousands of homes, building and Muslim lives lost in that war, and in all previous wars where they have done exactly the same thing.

Hizbollah did exactly the same thing in the last war, firing from civilian homes, and other places where they should not have been. Lebanon paid the price. And is about to do it again if they really intend on starting a war in 2018 hiding amongst civilians again, as Israel knows that they are right now.

Now, where exactly did the IDF hide amongst Jewish and non Jewish civilians to counter the attacks from Hamas or Hizbollah?
By all means let me know.

There should be tons of International reporting about how Israel fired from civilian homes, hospitals, etc within Israel to respond to the Hamas rockets in 2014.

Listen, Zionut. Even if Hamas started the war there is no reason to bomb civilians and their homes. But of course it is bullshit and here is what actually happened:

I have prepared a standard reply to post for when angry Zionists turn their propellers in denial:

March 2006: Olmert affirms demand for acknowledgment:
"Acting Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said Wednesday that he would not wait years for Hamas to recognize Israel, a precondition for peace talks, and that he was prepared to take unilateral steps in the meantime."
Olmert: We`won't wait' for Hamas to recognize us

June 11 2006: Hamas ready to recognize Israel:
"The Hamas movement is ready to recognize agreements signed with Israel, and in fact recognize Israel, but only within the '67 borders, senior Hamas member Khaled Suleiman said Wednesday."
Ynetnews News - Hamas: We’ll recognize Israel within '67 borders

June 28 2006: Israel attacks Gaza:
Operation Summer Rains - Wikipedia

Surely, Hamas is not very good but what is worse than Hamas? US-backed Zion-Hamas with airforce!
You only lie, lie and lie. It´s always the others, poor, poor Israel.

 

[Bleipriester]

How about "Germany Helping To Make A Better World"

From A like Aryanism to Z like Zionism we literally invented everything! How great we are, there is no word to express. So overwhelming fantastic. We even invented rolls!

You do not like staying on the subject. Don't worry, we can figure out why.

You wish to create threads about Germany and other countries making a better world? Go to the right forums and start them.

You, like many others, sidestepped what the Palestinians have brought to better the world. So be it.

Oh, and THANK YOU for your subtle comparison between Aryanism and Zionism.

Glad to see that you truly know what you are talking about, and what you came to this thread and forum to do.

Why don´t you reply to our discussion but intervene with nonsense in another?

English comprehension issues, is it?
Nothing I can do about it.

Everybody can see you are doing exactly what you blame on me.

In other words, you cannot discuss/respond to what I wrote in my posts in answer to yours.

Thanks

Standard zionut reply that only runs you deeper in the pool of stupidity. Do you think when you pretend something it becomes true?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

What are you mumbling about, Ivan?

You´re supporting the regime taking Palestinian land every day. So it´s you who must take the refugees. I am sure your neighborhood does not have a Hamas mosque yet.

You´re supporting the regime taking Palestinian land every day.

Palestinian land? When did they ever have any land?

Palestine is internationally recognized.

You didn't answer the question.
When did they ever have any land?

Since 1948.

Palestinians punted in 1948.
No land in 1947. No land in 1949.
No land ever.

 

[Bleipriester]

You´re supporting the regime taking Palestinian land every day. So it´s you who must take the refugees. I am sure your neighborhood does not have a Hamas mosque yet.

You´re supporting the regime taking Palestinian land every day.

Palestinian land? When did they ever have any land?

Palestine is internationally recognized.

You didn't answer the question.
When did they ever have any land?

Since 1948.

Palestinians punted in 1948.
No land in 1947. No land in 1949.
No land ever.

Give your land back that you have stolen from the Indians

 

[there4eyeM]

Israel exists because Americans and America support it. What the advantage to America is may not be questioned, even if it is not evident. With the pestilential dualistic thinking that dominates America, daring to call any sacred cow into question means one opposes it. "Debate" only means divide and curse today. Peace in the Middle East is not something the U.S. could ever determine of its own accord. Perhaps no one and nothing could.

 

[Sixties Fan]

You´re supporting the regime taking Palestinian land every day.

Palestinian land? When did they ever have any land?

Palestine is internationally recognized.

You didn't answer the question.
When did they ever have any land?

Since 1948.

Palestinians punted in 1948.
No land in 1947. No land in 1949.
No land ever.

Give your land back that you have stolen from the Indians

Are you as you say in your profile Syrian?
An Arab who comes from Syria? Or an indegenous Syrian? Or are you just using the word for effect?
Are the Arabs the indigenous people of Syria?
Of Iraq? Phoenicia (Lebanon) ?

Are the Jews not indigenous to the Land of Israel ? It says so in the Quran .

So, the question remains, what is it that so many Arabs, by calling themselves Palestinians, insist to take the whole land from its indigenous population?

No one in America contests the fact that the 500 First Nations are the indigenous rightful owners of the land in the American continent. North, Central or South America. Or in Australia, or New Zealand.

The issue remains one of nearly 2000 years of some in the Christian and Islam religions refusing to treat Jews as their equals and allow them to have the less than 20% of the Jewish Homeland left to them after the British gave away most of it to an Arab tribe in 1925.

If one keeps coming from the belief that Jews do not have the right to any land on the ancient Jewish homeland, than where is any conversation going to go?

Clearly you do believe that Zionism is an evil thing, set to take away land belonging to others, and killing Palestinians "just because".

The Indians of America as well as the Jews of the Land of Israel are fighting for their rights, and winning. American Indians have gotten very little back as far as their legal rights, and so have the Jews.

The Indigenous people from all the New world fought as they could until the end of the 19th century to protect their ancient lands. Now they do it legally.

The Jews legally won the right to recreate their ancient Nation on Their ancient homeland.
Now, they do it legally and militarily as any other country would have to as so many rockets and attacks have been aimed at all who live in Israel, Jews and non Jews.

Militarily Israel has already won all the wars ALL the Arab countries have aimed at it from 1948 to 1973. The same against those in Gaza, who regardless of getting full control of all of Gaza, do not think that Gaza alone is enough. Just read their charter.

Why is Hamas continuing to fire rockets into Israel since 2007 when it has all of Gaza? Care to find out the answer?

 

[Sixties Fan]

Israel exists because Americans and America support it. What the advantage to America is may not be questioned, even if it is not evident. With the pestilential dualistic thinking that dominates America, daring to call any sacred cow into question means one opposes it. "Debate" only means divide and curse today. Peace in the Middle East is not something the U.S. could ever determine of its own accord. Perhaps no one and nothing could.

So, in other words, you are trying to convince people to be anti America.
Why would that be?
Arab refusal to sign a peace treaty has absolutely nothing to do with the
Israel-Arab conflict.

And please, do not bring the whole Middle East into it. This conflict has nothing to do with what is happening in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Iran.

 

[Bleipriester]

Are you as you say in your profile Syrian?
An Arab who comes from Syria? Or an indegenous Syrian? Or are you just using the word for effect?
Are the Arabs the indigenous people of Syria?
Of Iraq? Phoenicia (Lebanon) ?

Where does it say I am Syrian?

Are the Jews not indigenous to the Land of Israel ? It says so in the Quran .

So, the question remains, what is it that so many Arabs, by calling themselves Palestinians, insist to take the whole land from its indigenous population?

The question is what makes today´s Israelis equal to ancient Israelites. It´s another people, made out of various nationalities. And again, many people´s lived there.

No one in America contests the fact that the 500 First Nations are the indigenous rightful owners of the land in the American continent. North, Central or South America. Or in Australia, or New Zealand.

lol

The issue remains one of nearly 2000 years of some in the Christian and Islam religions refusing to treat Jews as their equals and allow them to have the less than 20% of the Jewish Homeland left to them after the British gave away most of it to an Arab tribe in 1925.

And Jews did not consider themselves to be equal to non-Jews. So what´s the point?

If one keeps coming from the belief that Jews do not have the right to any land on the ancient Jewish homeland, than where is any conversation going to go?
Clearly you do believe that Zionism is an evil thing, set to take away land belonging to others, and killing Palestinians "just because".

I don´t see any ancient Christian homeland, Muslim homeland, ect. Israel can only be accepted if other countries like Jordan or Palestine are accepted too.
History shows that only Syria and Palestine have a consistent presence in history:

1000 BCE:

500 BCE:

200 BCE:

30 BCE:

200 CE:

500 CE:

750 CE:

979 CE:

1215 CE:

1453 CE:

1648 CE:

1789 CE:

1837 CE:

1871 CE:

1914 CE:

Even all the maps do not cover all the empires that were around in the region. For example there was the Palmyrean Empire.
We can learn from the maps that nobody has the right to determine which group of people has a right to their own country and which not.
Modern countries like Syria or Israel never existed as actual countries in the past. This is the history of all countries. They were part of other mostly short-lived entities
and it is only hilarious to say this country may exist and that country may not.

Why is Hamas continuing to fire rockets into Israel since 2007 when it has all of Gaza? Care to find out the answer?

Israel was involved in the creation of Hamas and I think they have an agreement to bomb each other in order to justify their regimes.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Are you as you say in your profile Syrian?
An Arab who comes from Syria? Or an indegenous Syrian? Or are you just using the word for effect?
Are the Arabs the indigenous people of Syria?
Of Iraq? Phoenicia (Lebanon) ?

Where does it say I am Syrian?

Are the Jews not indigenous to the Land of Israel ? It says so in the Quran .

So, the question remains, what is it that so many Arabs, by calling themselves Palestinians, insist to take the whole land from its indigenous population?

The question is what makes today´s Israelis equal to ancient Israelites. It´s another people, made out of various nationalities. And again, many people´s lived there.

No one in America contests the fact that the 500 First Nations are the indigenous rightful owners of the land in the American continent. North, Central or South America. Or in Australia, or New Zealand.

lol

The issue remains one of nearly 2000 years of some in the Christian and Islam religions refusing to treat Jews as their equals and allow them to have the less than 20% of the Jewish Homeland left to them after the British gave away most of it to an Arab tribe in 1925.

And Jews did not consider themselves to be equal to non-Jews. So what´s the point?

If one keeps coming from the belief that Jews do not have the right to any land on the ancient Jewish homeland, than where is any conversation going to go?
Clearly you do believe that Zionism is an evil thing, set to take away land belonging to others, and killing Palestinians "just because".

I don´t see any ancient Christian homeland, Muslim homeland, ect. Israel can only be accepted if other countries like Jordan or Palestine are accepted too.
History shows that only Syria and Palestine have a consistent presence in history:

1000 BCE:

500 BCE:

200 BCE:

30 BCE:

200 CE:

500 CE:

750 CE:

979 CE:

1215 CE:

1453 CE:

1648 CE:

1789 CE:

1837 CE:

1871 CE:

1914 CE:

Even all the maps do not cover all the empires that were around in the region. For example there was the Palmyrean Empire.
We can learn from the maps that nobody has the right to determine which group of people has a right to their own country and which not.
Modern countries like Syria or Israel never existed as actual countries in the past. This is the history of all countries. They were part of other mostly short-lived entities
and it is only hilarious to say this country may exist and that country may not.

Why is Hamas continuing to fire rockets into Israel since 2007 when it has all of Gaza? Care to find out the answer?

Israel was involved in the creation of Hamas and I think they have an agreement to bomb each other in order to justify their regimes.

I was not saying that you are a Syrian, but your "Syrian troll farm" did raise the question to me.

From all of your responses it is rather easy to see that you subscribe to the Jews are not indigenous of the land of Israel theories which have been circulating ONLY since 1948.

And all the other conspiracy theories about Jews in between.

If someone like you thinks that Israel never existed as a Nation, with a capital, currency, laws, trade with other Nations, etc.....then who am I to say otherwise?

 

[Bleipriester]

I was not saying that you are a Syrian, but your "Syrian troll farm" did raise the question to me.

Whatever, nowhere says my profile anything about nationality. The troll farm is ironic as should be realized.

From all of your responses it is rather easy to see that you subscribe to the Jews are not indigenous of the land of Israel theories which have been circulating ONLY since 1948.
And all the other conspiracy theories about Jews in between.

No, I do not subscribe to anything. Where do I have to subscribe to get free stuff? I am particularly interested in the free 38,5 billion Dollars.

If someone like you thinks that Israel never existed as a Nation, with a capital, currency, laws, trade with other Nations, etc.....then who am I to say otherwise?

"The name Israel first appears in non-biblical sources c. 1209 BCE, in an inscription of the Egyptian pharaoh Merneptah. The inscription is very brief and says simply: "Israel is laid waste and his seed is not" (see below). The inscription refers to a people, not to an individual or a nation-state."

I claim the land of Dan because this is my name. You will agree that since the land is named after me, it is only logical to turn it over to me so I can establish my kindhearted reign and no other than me should rule it.

 

[Sixties Fan]

I was not saying that you are a Syrian, but your "Syrian troll farm" did raise the question to me.

Whatever, nowhere says my profile anything about nationality. The troll farm is ironic as should be realized.

From all of your responses it is rather easy to see that you subscribe to the Jews are not indigenous of the land of Israel theories which have been circulating ONLY since 1948.
And all the other conspiracy theories about Jews in between.

No, I do not subscribe to anything. Where do I have to subscribe to get free stuff? I am particularly interested in the free 38,5 billion Dollars.

If someone like you thinks that Israel never existed as a Nation, with a capital, currency, laws, trade with other Nations, etc.....then who am I to say otherwise?

"The name Israel first appears in non-biblical sources c. 1209 BCE, in an inscription of the Egyptian pharaoh Merneptah. The inscription is very brief and says simply: "Israel is laid waste and his seed is not" (see below). The inscription refers to a people, not to an individual or a nation-state."

I claim the land of Dan because this is my name. You will agree that since the land is named after me, it is only logical to turn it over to me so I can establish my kindhearted reign and no other than me should rule it.

You assume that all would know what "Syrian troll farm" means. Your mistake.

And you have, for any reason, wiped out the Nation of Israel from history which existed from about 3000 years ago.

And no, your name being Dan, or not, you do not have any claim to any land which never belong to you or your ancestors, anymore than it belonged to any deceased or living Arab, Pagan, Christian or Muslim.

Free stuff? The internet is full of it. Just look it up.

Chag Sameach.

 

[MJB12741]

Is that right? See thread titled --- Israel: Helping To Make A Better World. Enjoy!

I know that thread!

"Bow down! Israeli sidewalk swept properly! Praise the greatness of Israel or be an anti-semite, anti-semite!"

EXCELLENT POINT! We need a thread to educate the Zionists titled --- Palestinians: Helping To Make A Better World. Don't you agree?

How about "Germany Helping To Make A Better World"

From A like Aryanism to Z like Zionism we literally invented everything! How great we are, there is no word to express. So overwhelming fantastic. We even invented rolls!

You do not like staying on the subject. Don't worry, we can figure out why.

You wish to create threads about Germany and other countries making a better world? Go to the right forums and start them.

You, like many others, sidestepped what the Palestinians have brought to better the world. So be it.

Oh, and THANK YOU for your subtle comparison between Aryanism and Zionism.

Glad to see that you truly know what you are talking about, and what you came to this thread and forum to do.

Why don´t you reply to our discussion but intervene with nonsense in another?

I am still waiting for you to show us even one post where I EVER claimed Palestinians don't exist as you accuse me of. Time to chime in. Dilly Dilly!

 

[Bleipriester]

You assume that all would know what "Syrian troll farm" means. Your mistake.

No, your´s. Even if the term troll farm was strange for you, it would be clear it is something special and you´d google it before you make any assumptions.

And you have, for any reason, wiped out the Nation of Israel from history which existed from about 3000 years ago.

I just pointed out that the history of the ME is not that onesided. If the Jewish nation wants to be in the ME, they have to accept there are other peoples too. Both sides have to negotiate. Zionist rulers are doing exactly what has been before and in the religion was the reason why God scattered the Jews in the world.

"In the period that preceded the monarchy, Israel had no king; everyone did as he saw fit (Judges 21:25). God raised up Samuel to lead the people (1 Samuel 3:4). All of Israel knew that Samuel was established to be a prophet of the Lord (1 Samuel 3:20). Samuel judged Israel all the days of his life, and when he was old he made his sons judges over Israel (1 Samuel 8:1). Israel rejected the sons, refused to obey Samuel and demanded a king (1 Samuel 8:19–20). When Samuel reported their request to God, the Lord answered, “Listen to them and give them a king” (1 Samuel 8:22).

Saul was the first king. He was of the tribe of Benjamin, which, in the days of the judges, had almost been annihilated. Tall, handsome and humble, Saul began his reign with a brilliant victory over the Ammonites. Any misgivings about the new “kingdom” disappeared. But success rapidly went to his head, and humility gave place to pride. He offered sacrifice, which was the exclusive function of priests, showing his presumed self-importance. He deliberately disobeyed God, causing God to tell Samuel, “I am grieved that I have made Saul king, because he has turned away from me and has not carried out my instructions” (1 Samuel 15:10). Saul reigned unsuccessfully from 1049 BC to 1009 BC, then he “took his own sword and fell on it” (1 Samuel 31:4).

David, although anointed as king when just a boy, did not “take the throne” until after Saul’s death (2 Samuel 2:4). David was short of stature, ruddy, of beautiful countenance, handsome, of immense physical strength and great personal attractiveness. He was a man of war, prudent in speech, very brave, very musical and very religious. His most recognized “claim to fame” was God’s promise that David’s family should reign forever. “A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse [David’s father] and from his roots a Branch [Jesus] will bear fruit” (Isaiah 11:1). After Saul’s death, David was made king over Judah, and seven years later he was made king over all Israel. He was 30 years old when he became king and reigned from 1009 BC to 969 BC.

Solomon became king in 971 BC, possibly two years before his father David died, and reigned until 931 BC. Solomon was born of Bathsheba, and, though not in line for the succession, he was chosen by David and approved by God to be David’s successor (1 Chronicles 23:1). Solomon had inherited the throne of the most powerful kingdom then existing. It was an era of peace and prosperity with vast business enterprises and literary attainments. God told Solomon to ask what he would, and Solomon asked for wisdom to govern his people. That pleased God, who richly rewarded him with wealth, wisdom, power and the important task of building the temple (1 Chronicles 28:2–6).

After the death of Solomon, the kingdom was divided. Ten tribes formed the Northern Kingdom, called Israel; Judah and Benjamin formed the Southern Kingdom, called Judah. The date of the division of the kingdom is approximately 931 BC. The following dates are approximate, due to overlapping reigns, associated sovereignty, intervals of anarchy, and parts of years referred to as full years. Some of the reigns were, in part, concurrent. All the kings of Israel practiced idolatry; the worst served Baal. Many of the kings of Judah served idols; few served the Lord faithfully. Some bad kings were partly good; some good kings partly bad. The kings, the approximate dates of their reigns and their dispositions are listed below:

KINGS OF ISRAEL: Jeroboam I, bad, 931—910 BC
Nadab, bad, 910—909 BC
Baasha, bad, 909—886 BC
Elah, bad, 886—885 BC
Zimri, bad, 885 BC
Tibni, bad, 885—880 BC
Omri (overlap), extra bad, 885—874 BC
Ahab, the worst, 874—853 BC
Ahaziah, bad, 853—852 BC
Joram/Jehoram, bad mostly, 852—841 BC
Jehu, not good but better than the rest, 841—814 BC
Jehoahaz, bad, 814—798 BC
Joash, bad, 798—782 BC
Jeroboam II (overlap), bad, 793—753 BC
Zechariah, bad, 753 BC
Shallum, bad, 752 BC
Menahem, bad, 752—742 BC
Pekahiah, bad, 742—740 BC
Pekah (overlap), bad, 752—732 BC
Hoshea, bad, 732—722 BC

KINGS OF JUDAH:
Rehoboam, bad mostly, 931—913 BC
Abijah, bad mostly, 913—911 BC
Asa, GOOD, 911—870 BC
Jehoshaphat (overlap), GOOD, 873—848 BC
Jehoram/Joram (overlap), bad, 853—841 BC
Ahaziah, bad, 841 BC
Athaliah (queen), devilish, 841—835 BC
Joash/Jehoash, good mostly, 835—796 BC
Amaziah, good mostly, 796—767 BC
Uzziah/Azariah (overlap), GOOD mostly, 790—739 BC
Jotham (overlap), GOOD, 750—731 BC
Ahaz, wicked, 735—715 BC
Hezekiah, GREAT, 715—686 BC
Manasseh, the worst, 695—642 BC
Amon, the worst, 642—640 BC
Josiah, THE BEST, 640—609 BC
Jehoahaz, bad, 609 BC
Jehoiakim, wicked, 609—597 BC
Jehoiachin, bad, 597 BC
Zedekiah, bad, 597—586 BC"

Who were the kings of Israel and Judah?

And no, your name being Dan, or not, you do not have any claim to any land which never belong to you or your ancestors, anymore than it belonged to any deceased or living Arab, Pagan, Christian or Muslim.

Why not?

Chag Sameach.

For you too.

 

[Bleipriester]

I know that thread!

"Bow down! Israeli sidewalk swept properly! Praise the greatness of Israel or be an anti-semite, anti-semite!"

EXCELLENT POINT! We need a thread to educate the Zionists titled --- Palestinians: Helping To Make A Better World. Don't you agree?

How about "Germany Helping To Make A Better World"

From A like Aryanism to Z like Zionism we literally invented everything! How great we are, there is no word to express. So overwhelming fantastic. We even invented rolls!

You do not like staying on the subject. Don't worry, we can figure out why.

You wish to create threads about Germany and other countries making a better world? Go to the right forums and start them.

You, like many others, sidestepped what the Palestinians have brought to better the world. So be it.

Oh, and THANK YOU for your subtle comparison between Aryanism and Zionism.

Glad to see that you truly know what you are talking about, and what you came to this thread and forum to do.

Why don´t you reply to our discussion but intervene with nonsense in another?

I am still waiting for you to show us even one post where I EVER claimed Palestinians don't exist as you accuse me of. Time to chime in. Dilly Dilly!

You are presenting the things as you like.
Question: Under certain circumstances would you accept a Palestinian people independent from Israel? The people would be mostly Muslim and border Israel.