To My White Male Friends...

[DriftingSand]

I'm white male and, yes, there is a good deal of hatred and racism towards whites (especially white males).

 

[squeeze berry]

we deserve that hatred because our ancestors did not prevent the black Africans from selling their own kind

 

[DriftingSand]

Let me address the OP in an honest manner based on some personal experience:

I grew up in a California city that was primarily white and Hispanic. Although I got along with most of my Hispanic classmates one thing became clear when the lunch bell rang. The whites would migrate to one area of the school grounds and the Hispanics would move to another area. This wasn't the case 100% of the time but certainly the vast majority of the time. It seemed to be a natural phenomena and nobody seemed to have a problem with it. There was always this underlying tension and no amount of good intentions or gestures of friendship changed it in the 12 years I went to public school. The handful of Vietnamese (25 or 30 students) would almost ALWAYS find a secluded area of their own.

Since then, I've lived in 9 different States of our great nation. I've lived in or around a number of big cities. There are several things that all big cities have in common but one of them is the fact that the various races (when left to their own devices) generally migrate and congregate with folks of like color. There's almost always a "Chinatown"; a black side of town; a white side of town; and a Hispanic side of town; etc. It's nature in action! And while "enlightened" Liberals do their very best to force these folks into one, big, happy melting pot they can't seem to overcome a person's natural, genetic inclination to seek out folks of like kind.

Liberals, today, want to call everyone "racist" when it's convenient and politically correct to do so but the fact of the matter is that the majority of white Liberals wouldn't dare walk down the street in an all-black neighborhood after dark. Most wouldn't walk down a Hispanic neighborhood at 10:30PM either. They want everyone to think that they're "enlightened" and PC but in their personal lives they know better than to place themselves in harm's way or to enter the city's "danger zone." Now I don't happen to call their sensible decision "racist" at all. I call it self-preservation. But most wouldn't hesitate to call ME a "racist" for simply recognizing the obvious.

Fact: There are different races on earth. When we look at global demographics we can't help but note that the various races are generally segregated on a global scale. Scandinavia is mostly white while the Congo is mostly black while Brazil is mostly Hispanic while China is mostly Oriental while the Mideast is mostly Arabic, etc. American cites reflect the exact same, general statistics on a micro-scale. When we really think about it is there really anything wrong with that? I don't believe there is. I remember a Disneyland ride when I was a kid called "It's A Small World." The really cool thing about this ride is that it reflected the fact that different peoples had different and unique cultures. Each group dressed differently; had architecture unique to its own culture; spoke different languages; etc. I find that kind diversity and uniqueness very interesting and beautiful in its own way. How horrible would it be if all these various cultures were lost in a vast melting pot of sameness!!!

 

[Derideo_Te]

we deserve that hatred because our ancestors did not prevent the black Africans from selling their own kind

White slave owners were forced by blacks to own black slaves and mistreat them? What kind of moronic excuse is that?

You are not just a racist, you are a dumber than dirt racist.

You are the subject of the OP because you lack the empathy to put yourself in the shoes of others.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Let me address the OP in an honest manner based on some personal experience:

I grew up in a California city that was primarily white and Hispanic. Although I got along with most of my Hispanic classmates one thing became clear when the lunch bell rang. The whites would migrate to one area of the school grounds and the Hispanics would move to another area. This wasn't the case 100% of the time but certainly the vast majority of the time. It seemed to be a natural phenomena and nobody seemed to have a problem with it. There was always this underlying tension and no amount of good intentions or gestures of friendship changed it in the 12 years I went to public school. The handful of Vietnamese (25 or 30 students) would almost ALWAYS find a secluded area of their own.

Since then, I've lived in 9 different States of our great nation. I've lived in or around a number of big cities. There are several things that all big cities have in common but one of them is the fact that the various races (when left to their own devices) generally migrate and congregate with folks of like color. There's almost always a "Chinatown"; a black side of town; a white side of town; and a Hispanic side of town; etc. It's nature in action! And while "enlightened" Liberals do their very best to force these folks into one, big, happy melting pot they can't seem to overcome a person's natural, genetic inclination to seek out folks of like kind.

Liberals, today, want to call everyone "racist" when it's convenient and politically correct to do so but the fact of the matter is that the majority of white Liberals wouldn't dare walk down the street in an all-black neighborhood after dark. Most wouldn't walk down a Hispanic neighborhood at 10:30PM either. They want everyone to think that they're "enlightened" and PC but in their personal lives they know better than to place themselves in harm's way or to enter the city's "danger zone." Now I don't happen to call their sensible decision "racist" at all. I call it self-preservation. But most wouldn't hesitate to call ME a "racist" for simply recognizing the obvious.

Fact: There are different races on earth. When we look at global demographics we can't help but note that the various races are generally segregated on a global scale. Scandinavia is mostly white while the Congo is mostly black while Brazil is mostly Hispanic while China is mostly Oriental while the Mideast is mostly Arabic, etc. American cites reflect the exact same, general statistics on a micro-scale. When we really think about it is there really anything wrong with that? I don't believe there is. I remember a Disneyland ride when I was a kid called "It's A Small World." The really cool thing about this ride is that it reflected the fact that different peoples had different and unique cultures. Each group dressed differently; had architecture unique to its own culture; spoke different languages; etc. I find that kind diversity and uniqueness very interesting and beautiful in its own way. How horrible would it be if all these various cultures were lost in a vast melting pot of sameness!!!

It isn't a matter of cultural differences which also exist within races.

It is matter of how other races are treated. This is about the attitude adopted about other races. There is constant contact between people of different races in this nation. We all work in the same buildingd, drive on the same roads, eat in the same places, watch the same movies, etc, etc. That is reality so we need to treat each other as equals because that is the basis for this nation and we as Americans must uphold the principles on which this country was founded upon.

 

[DriftingSand]

we deserve that hatred because our ancestors did not prevent the black Africans from selling their own kind

White slave owners were forced by blacks to own black slaves and mistreat them? What kind of moronic excuse is that?

You are not just a racist, you are a dumber than dirt racist.

You are the subject of the OP because you lack the empathy to put yourself in the shoes of others.

1) History shows that whites have had white slaves.
2) History shows that blacks sold other blacks into slavery.
3) History shows that blacks of had black slaves.
4) History shows that blacks owned white slaves. (White slaves Black slave owners in America
5) Not all white slave owners mistreated their slaves. Like it or not, slaves were an investment. It behooved ANY slave owner to treat his/her slaves well to get the most "bang for the buck" (so to speak).

 

[Derideo_Te]

we deserve that hatred because our ancestors did not prevent the black Africans from selling their own kind

White slave owners were forced by blacks to own black slaves and mistreat them? What kind of moronic excuse is that?

You are not just a racist, you are a dumber than dirt racist.

You are the subject of the OP because you lack the empathy to put yourself in the shoes of others.

1) History shows that whites have had white slaves.
2) History shows that blacks sold other blacks into slavery.
3) History shows that blacks of had black slaves.
4) History shows that blacks owned white slaves. (White slaves Black slave owners in America
5) Not all white slave owners mistreated their slaves. Like it or not, slaves were an investment. It behooved ANY slave owner to treat his/her slaves well to get the most "bang for the buck" (so to speak).

So you are defending slavery? Do you believe that it was a "good" thing that slaves were brought to America under appalling conditions and then worked until they died without ever knowing the freedoms that you have?

 

[DriftingSand]

Let me address the OP in an honest manner based on some personal experience:

I grew up in a California city that was primarily white and Hispanic. Although I got along with most of my Hispanic classmates one thing became clear when the lunch bell rang. The whites would migrate to one area of the school grounds and the Hispanics would move to another area. This wasn't the case 100% of the time but certainly the vast majority of the time. It seemed to be a natural phenomena and nobody seemed to have a problem with it. There was always this underlying tension and no amount of good intentions or gestures of friendship changed it in the 12 years I went to public school. The handful of Vietnamese (25 or 30 students) would almost ALWAYS find a secluded area of their own.

Since then, I've lived in 9 different States of our great nation. I've lived in or around a number of big cities. There are several things that all big cities have in common but one of them is the fact that the various races (when left to their own devices) generally migrate and congregate with folks of like color. There's almost always a "Chinatown"; a black side of town; a white side of town; and a Hispanic side of town; etc. It's nature in action! And while "enlightened" Liberals do their very best to force these folks into one, big, happy melting pot they can't seem to overcome a person's natural, genetic inclination to seek out folks of like kind.

Liberals, today, want to call everyone "racist" when it's convenient and politically correct to do so but the fact of the matter is that the majority of white Liberals wouldn't dare walk down the street in an all-black neighborhood after dark. Most wouldn't walk down a Hispanic neighborhood at 10:30PM either. They want everyone to think that they're "enlightened" and PC but in their personal lives they know better than to place themselves in harm's way or to enter the city's "danger zone." Now I don't happen to call their sensible decision "racist" at all. I call it self-preservation. But most wouldn't hesitate to call ME a "racist" for simply recognizing the obvious.

Fact: There are different races on earth. When we look at global demographics we can't help but note that the various races are generally segregated on a global scale. Scandinavia is mostly white while the Congo is mostly black while Brazil is mostly Hispanic while China is mostly Oriental while the Mideast is mostly Arabic, etc. American cites reflect the exact same, general statistics on a micro-scale. When we really think about it is there really anything wrong with that? I don't believe there is. I remember a Disneyland ride when I was a kid called "It's A Small World." The really cool thing about this ride is that it reflected the fact that different peoples had different and unique cultures. Each group dressed differently; had architecture unique to its own culture; spoke different languages; etc. I find that kind diversity and uniqueness very interesting and beautiful in its own way. How horrible would it be if all these various cultures were lost in a vast melting pot of sameness!!!

It isn't a matter of cultural differences which also exist within races.

It is matter of how other races are treated. This is about the attitude adopted about other races. There is constant contact between people of different races in this nation. We all work in the same buildingd, drive on the same roads, eat in the same places, watch the same movies, etc, etc. That is reality so we need to treat each other as equals because that is the basis for this nation and we as Americans must uphold the principles on which this country was founded upon.

Here is a misnomer: All peoples are "equal." That simply isn't true. Let's just look at whites compared to other whites. I've known some really big folks; some really small folks; some smart ones and some dumb ones. Some whites are prosperous while others are deadbeats. Some believe in Socialism while others believe in Individual Responsibility. Some are rich while others are poor. Some strong ... others weak. So this idea of "equality" is a false foundation right from the beginning.

Then, we venture into the realm of the various races on earth. All races have been on the planet for thousands and thousands of years. Each have had ample opportunity to create their own circumstances based on their collective intelligence, talents, collective forethought, desires, and collective motivation. During all of that time, some races raised themselves to higher standards of living while others have chosen to sit in the dirt and eat grubs. Why? Because there is an obvious lack of "equality." As far as I'm concerned, if one race is happy living in grass huts and eating tree bark then who am I to force them to live to a higher standard?

 

[DriftingSand]

we deserve that hatred because our ancestors did not prevent the black Africans from selling their own kind

White slave owners were forced by blacks to own black slaves and mistreat them? What kind of moronic excuse is that?

You are not just a racist, you are a dumber than dirt racist.

You are the subject of the OP because you lack the empathy to put yourself in the shoes of others.

1) History shows that whites have had white slaves.
2) History shows that blacks sold other blacks into slavery.
3) History shows that blacks of had black slaves.
4) History shows that blacks owned white slaves. (White slaves Black slave owners in America
5) Not all white slave owners mistreated their slaves. Like it or not, slaves were an investment. It behooved ANY slave owner to treat his/her slaves well to get the most "bang for the buck" (so to speak).

So you are defending slavery? Do you believe that it was a "good" thing that slaves were brought to America under appalling conditions and then worked until they died without ever knowing the freedoms that you have?

Firstly, I'm not "defending" anything. I'm countering your one-sided view that only whites are to be blamed for slavery. I understand that you've been programmed to respond to the topic in such a knee-jerk fashion but history and facts aren't on your side. Secondly, I wish to God that blacks had not been brought to America. It would have been much better for all parties had they been left in their own land to fend for themselves in their own manner.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

As to the op, I would answer yes -- i HAVE had a child who was harassed, bullied, threatened and terrorized at school because of the color of his skin, and the school refused to do a fucking thing about it. He was small and white, was not athletic because of a physical disability that had not yet been diagnosed and was one of only three white kids in his class. His tormentors were all black, and bigger.

The school was much of the same mind as the op in wanting to stamp out "racism" you see, so refused to intervene so as to make sure everybody knew they weren't.

 

[katsteve2012]

Just to continue in the pursiit poo f discussing your thread. I hsd a an incident occur

As to the op, I would answer yes -- i HAVE had a child who was harassed, bullied, threatened and terrorized at school because of the color of his skin, and the school refused to do a fucking thing about it. He was small and white, was not athletic because of a physical disability that had not yet been diagnosed and was one of only three white kids in his class. His tormentors were all black, and bigger.

The school was much of the same mind as the op in wanting to stamp out "racism" you see, so refused to intervene so as to make sure everybody knew they weren't.

Did you file a formal complaint to the board naming the adminstrators of the school?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Did you file a formal complaint to the board naming the adminstrators of the school?

Yes.

Have you ever dealt with pompous bureaucrats more interested in stonewalling and butt covering than finding the truth?

 

[squeeze berry]

we deserve that hatred because our ancestors did not prevent the black Africans from selling their own kind

White slave owners were forced by blacks to own black slaves and mistreat them? What kind of moronic excuse is that?

You are not just a racist, you are a dumber than dirt racist.

You are the subject of the OP because you lack the empathy to put yourself in the shoes of others.

lol

show me mistreated slaves and I'll have empathy for them

guess I'm racist for stating that too

 

[DriftingSand]

As to the op, I would answer yes -- i HAVE had a child who was harassed, bullied, threatened and terrorized at school because of the color of his skin, and the school refused to do a fucking thing about it. He was small and white, was not athletic because of a physical disability that had not yet been diagnosed and was one of only three white kids in his class. His tormentors were all black, and bigger.

The school was much of the same mind as the op in wanting to stamp out "racism" you see, so refused to intervene so as to make sure everybody knew they weren't.

Unfortunately, these kinds of stories are FAR more prevalent than America's Libs want to admit.

Question for the OP: Would you consider lions "racist" because they don't hang out with tigers? How about leopards. Are they "racist" because they don't associate with jaguars? Aren't you glad that there is such a nice variety of felines instead of only one kind?

 

[squeeze berry]

let's review what we have learned so far in this thread

1. black people have the right to lecture white people about race because only they are experts in the subject
2. black people and only black people have the right to define racism
3. black people hate white people because of something that ended 150 years ago
4. only white people are responsible for the African slave trade
5. it was white people that ended the slave trade, but that's only a lie made up by white people too

 

[katsteve2012]

Did you file a formal complaint to the board naming the adminstrators of the school?

Yes.

Have you ever dealt with pompous bureaucrats more interested in stonewalling and butt covering than finding the truth?

Did you file a formal complaint to the board naming the adminstrators of the school?

Yes.

Have you ever dealt with pompous bureaucrats more interested in stonewalling and butt covering than finding the truth?

Yes. I had a friend who had a similar situation happen with their child, and it just so happened that I knew the superintendent if the unified school district. One teacher was transferred and another reprimanded. Unfortunately, once they get tenure they are almost impossible to terminate.

 

[squeeze berry]

we deserve that hatred because our ancestors did not prevent the black Africans from selling their own kind

White slave owners were forced by blacks to own black slaves and mistreat them? What kind of moronic excuse is that?

You are not just a racist, you are a dumber than dirt racist.

You are the subject of the OP because you lack the empathy to put yourself in the shoes of others.

1) History shows that whites have had white slaves.
2) History shows that blacks sold other blacks into slavery.
3) History shows that blacks of had black slaves.
4) History shows that blacks owned white slaves. (White slaves Black slave owners in America
5) Not all white slave owners mistreated their slaves. Like it or not, slaves were an investment. It behooved ANY slave owner to treat his/her slaves well to get the most "bang for the buck" (so to speak).

So you are defending slavery? Do you believe that it was a "good" thing that slaves were brought to America under appalling conditions and then worked until they died without ever knowing the freedoms that you have?

when were you sold and beaten?

 

[Iceweasel]

How long are you hand wringers going to pick at the national scab of racism? Does racism exist? Sure. It does everywhere on Earth. Are many blacks racist too? Yep. Are there people making a good living at fanning the flames of racism? No doubt.

But to call this a racist nation is wrong. America elected a black man as president, twice. And no nation on Earth offers more opportunity to blacks, Asians, whites, etc.

If a black man can't succeed in todays' America, his skin color isn't to blame.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Firstly, I'm not "defending" anything. I'm countering your one-sided view that only whites are to be blamed for slavery.

Actually you did defend slavery and you failed to take my statement in context. I was sarcastically responding to Squeezeberry's racist statement about blaming whites.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Let me address the OP in an honest manner based on some personal experience:

I grew up in a California city that was primarily white and Hispanic. Although I got along with most of my Hispanic classmates one thing became clear when the lunch bell rang. The whites would migrate to one area of the school grounds and the Hispanics would move to another area. This wasn't the case 100% of the time but certainly the vast majority of the time. It seemed to be a natural phenomena and nobody seemed to have a problem with it. There was always this underlying tension and no amount of good intentions or gestures of friendship changed it in the 12 years I went to public school. The handful of Vietnamese (25 or 30 students) would almost ALWAYS find a secluded area of their own.

Since then, I've lived in 9 different States of our great nation. I've lived in or around a number of big cities. There are several things that all big cities have in common but one of them is the fact that the various races (when left to their own devices) generally migrate and congregate with folks of like color. There's almost always a "Chinatown"; a black side of town; a white side of town; and a Hispanic side of town; etc. It's nature in action! And while "enlightened" Liberals do their very best to force these folks into one, big, happy melting pot they can't seem to overcome a person's natural, genetic inclination to seek out folks of like kind.

Liberals, today, want to call everyone "racist" when it's convenient and politically correct to do so but the fact of the matter is that the majority of white Liberals wouldn't dare walk down the street in an all-black neighborhood after dark. Most wouldn't walk down a Hispanic neighborhood at 10:30PM either. They want everyone to think that they're "enlightened" and PC but in their personal lives they know better than to place themselves in harm's way or to enter the city's "danger zone." Now I don't happen to call their sensible decision "racist" at all. I call it self-preservation. But most wouldn't hesitate to call ME a "racist" for simply recognizing the obvious.

Fact: There are different races on earth. When we look at global demographics we can't help but note that the various races are generally segregated on a global scale. Scandinavia is mostly white while the Congo is mostly black while Brazil is mostly Hispanic while China is mostly Oriental while the Mideast is mostly Arabic, etc. American cites reflect the exact same, general statistics on a micro-scale. When we really think about it is there really anything wrong with that? I don't believe there is. I remember a Disneyland ride when I was a kid called "It's A Small World." The really cool thing about this ride is that it reflected the fact that different peoples had different and unique cultures. Each group dressed differently; had architecture unique to its own culture; spoke different languages; etc. I find that kind diversity and uniqueness very interesting and beautiful in its own way. How horrible would it be if all these various cultures were lost in a vast melting pot of sameness!!!

It isn't a matter of cultural differences which also exist within races.

It is matter of how other races are treated. This is about the attitude adopted about other races. There is constant contact between people of different races in this nation. We all work in the same buildingd, drive on the same roads, eat in the same places, watch the same movies, etc, etc. That is reality so we need to treat each other as equals because that is the basis for this nation and we as Americans must uphold the principles on which this country was founded upon.

Here is a misnomer: All peoples are "equal." That simply isn't true. Let's just look at whites compared to other whites. I've known some really big folks; some really small folks; some smart ones and some dumb ones. Some whites are prosperous while others are deadbeats. Some believe in Socialism while others believe in Individual Responsibility. Some are rich while others are poor. Some strong ... others weak. So this idea of "equality" is a false foundation right from the beginning.

Then, we venture into the realm of the various races on earth. All races have been on the planet for thousands and thousands of years. Each have had ample opportunity to create their own circumstances based on their collective intelligence, talents, collective forethought, desires, and collective motivation. During all of that time, some races raised themselves to higher standards of living while others have chosen to sit in the dirt and eat grubs. Why? Because there is an obvious lack of "equality." As far as I'm concerned, if one race is happy living in grass huts and eating tree bark then who am I to force them to live to a higher standard?

Once again you are taking what I have said out of context.

I specifically referred to the races here in America. And in this nation we have this concept of Equality Under the Law. Everyone is equal no matter how rich or poor, dumb or smart, etc, etc. Now if you can prove otherwise that just because someone in this nation has a different skin color to yours they are not equal then you might have a point.

But so far you have to reach to the ends of the earth to justify your own "position" because you certainly cannot justify it here in America.