Time to Call Obama and Kerry What They Are Traitors

[Alex.]

"Is support for the Iran deal dropping? It appears so.

Just two weeks after it was struck, Americans appear to be taking an increasingly negative view of the Iran nuclear deal.

A CNN-ORC poll released Tuesday finds 52 percent of Americans say Congress should reject the deal, while 44 percent want them to approve it. The findings mirror a Pew Research poll released last week and mark the first public polls this year to find majority or plurality opposition to a deal with Iran."

Is support for the Iran deal dropping It appears so. - The Washington Post

Seems people are having "buyers remorse" on this deal. Once they realized Obama supports state sponsored terrorism they had a change of heart.

No, just stupid people like you oppose it. It is what your handlers are telling you to parrot...

The new poll finds a sharp partisan gap on whether Congress should approve the deal, with 66% of Republicans and 55% of independents saying Congress ought to reject it and 61% of Democrats saying it should be approved. Younger adults, who tend to lean more Democratic, are more apt to favor the deal: 53% of those age 18-34 say approve it, while 56% of those age 35 or older say reject it. There is also an education divide on the deal, with 53% of college graduates saying the deal should be approved, while just 37% of those with a high school degree or less formal education saying they think it should be approved.

I am not stupid I just do not approve of giving away any leverage while getting very little in return.

 

[Alex.]

"Is support for the Iran deal dropping? It appears so.

Just two weeks after it was struck, Americans appear to be taking an increasingly negative view of the Iran nuclear deal.

A CNN-ORC poll released Tuesday finds 52 percent of Americans say Congress should reject the deal, while 44 percent want them to approve it. The findings mirror a Pew Research poll released last week and mark the first public polls this year to find majority or plurality opposition to a deal with Iran."

Is support for the Iran deal dropping It appears so. - The Washington Post

Seems people are having "buyers remorse" on this deal. Once they realized Obama supports state sponsored terrorism they had a change of heart.

Actually like you, the large majority of older Americans don't have an alternative that is valid or better than this deal. The right wing clamoring and false complaints do have an effect on the "over thirty five" and the "less educated" public opinion.


from your link to the CNN-ORC poll:

Younger adults, who tend to lean more Democratic, are more apt to favor the deal: 53% of those age 18-34 say approve it, while 56% of those age 35 or older say reject it. There is also an education divide on the deal, with 53% of college graduates saying the deal should be approved, while just 37% of those with a high school degree or less formal education saying they think it should be approved

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The deal is a ten to twenty year look-ahead giving a diplomatic solution a chance rather than military action. Why not let the younger Americans decide their future. Its not as if from 2000 on the 'adults' did such a bang up job specifically on foreign policy with Iraq and lousy economic policy from 2000 through 2007 during the Bush years.

I will wait for the poll that asks the more pertinent question ( Majority Of Americans Support Iran Nuclear Deal ) rather than this skewed question on in the CNN-ORC poll. Skewed because it only asks if Congress should approve it, not whether it is preferable to war with Iran or not or continuing sanctons?

This poll asked "As you may know, the U.S. Congress must approve the agreement the United States and five other
countries reached with Iran that is aimed at preventing Iran from developing nuclear weapons before it can take effect. Do you think Congress should approve or reject the deal with Iran? July 22-25 2015"

The most pertinent question and answers were taken and given just one week ago when folks were also asked if Congress should approve it and a 53% majority said yes. Quite a swing in a week. But its research went deeper than the poll you have selected:

The survey also offered Americans an opportunity to select which one of several policy options would be “most effective” in reducing the likelihood Iran develops nuclear weapons. Doing so found a plurality -40%— think the Iran nuclear agreement would be more effective than taking military action against Iran’s nuclear facilities (23%), imposing new economic sanctions against Iran (23%) or continuing existing sanctions against Iran (12%).

How would you answer that question? It a no brainer that diplomacy is preferred over war = unless you are a war monger.

The either/or dynamic, not a very sophisticated or intelligent way of looking at this.

 

[Alex.]

"there are many ways in which this agreement is worrisome. Kerry and Moniz argue convincingly, however, that the arrangement will stymie Iran’s ability to build a nuclear weapon in the short term, which is ultimately better than nothing.

But there are holes in the arguments being put forward by Kerry and his colleagues, who appeared before the House Foreign Affairs Committee on Tuesday. Indeed, Kerry and Moniz wrote that, “If Iran fails to meet its responsibilities, sanctions will snap back into place, and no country can stop that from happening.” But with China and Russia both keen to forge new business relationships with Iran, it’s unclear whether reinstating the current level of sanctions will be possible in the future. And unless the U.S. is able to reimpose sanctions with the support of all its partners in the deal, such a threat will be much less potent."

National Post View The Iran nuclear agreement is a sub-optimal deal National Post


The US is left with very little recourse and a strong indication that Iran will do exactly what it wants when it wants.

 

[idb]

"Is support for the Iran deal dropping? It appears so.

Just two weeks after it was struck, Americans appear to be taking an increasingly negative view of the Iran nuclear deal.

A CNN-ORC poll released Tuesday finds 52 percent of Americans say Congress should reject the deal, while 44 percent want them to approve it. The findings mirror a Pew Research poll released last week and mark the first public polls this year to find majority or plurality opposition to a deal with Iran."

Is support for the Iran deal dropping It appears so. - The Washington Post

Seems people are having "buyers remorse" on this deal. Once they realized Obama supports state sponsored terrorism they had a change of heart.

No, just stupid people like you oppose it. It is what your handlers are telling you to parrot...

The new poll finds a sharp partisan gap on whether Congress should approve the deal, with 66% of Republicans and 55% of independents saying Congress ought to reject it and 61% of Democrats saying it should be approved. Younger adults, who tend to lean more Democratic, are more apt to favor the deal: 53% of those age 18-34 say approve it, while 56% of those age 35 or older say reject it. There is also an education divide on the deal, with 53% of college graduates saying the deal should be approved, while just 37% of those with a high school degree or less formal education saying they think it should be approved.

I am not stupid I just do not approve of giving away any leverage while getting very little in return.

The leverage is still there - it's the threat of future sanctions and the backing of the other negotiating partners.
Iran is the only side that gave anything away.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

"Is support for the Iran deal dropping? It appears so.

Just two weeks after it was struck, Americans appear to be taking an increasingly negative view of the Iran nuclear deal.

A CNN-ORC poll released Tuesday finds 52 percent of Americans say Congress should reject the deal, while 44 percent want them to approve it. The findings mirror a Pew Research poll released last week and mark the first public polls this year to find majority or plurality opposition to a deal with Iran."

Is support for the Iran deal dropping It appears so. - The Washington Post

Seems people are having "buyers remorse" on this deal. Once they realized Obama supports state sponsored terrorism they had a change of heart.

No, just stupid people like you oppose it. It is what your handlers are telling you to parrot...

The new poll finds a sharp partisan gap on whether Congress should approve the deal, with 66% of Republicans and 55% of independents saying Congress ought to reject it and 61% of Democrats saying it should be approved. Younger adults, who tend to lean more Democratic, are more apt to favor the deal: 53% of those age 18-34 say approve it, while 56% of those age 35 or older say reject it. There is also an education divide on the deal, with 53% of college graduates saying the deal should be approved, while just 37% of those with a high school degree or less formal education saying they think it should be approved.

I am not stupid I just do not approve of giving away any leverage while getting very little in return.

The leverage is still there - it's the threat of future sanctions and the backing of the other negotiating partners.
Iran is the only side that gave anything away.

What leverage?
Russia, China and other Shanghai Cooperation Organization nations
have already stated sanctions against Iran are "unacceptable".
Sanctions against Iran unacceptable Russia China other SCO nations RT News
They are rushing all over themselves to do business with Iran and further sanctions from them are nearly impossible to imagine.

The Batman and Robin of ineffectual diplomacy (Obama and Kerry) have already committed us to a deal that removes all leverage and taken it to the UN
in an attempt to undercut and unduly influence Congress.
It's impossible to see what Iran has "given away" since they get all they wanted and more. All they have to do is wait. The deal is a bullshit sham and as such Obama would be right in considering it one of his shining accomplishments as president.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

” But with China and Russia both keen to forge new business relationships with Iran, it’s unclear whether reinstating the current level of sanctions will be possible in the future. And unless the U.S. is able to reimpose sanctions with the support of all its partners in the deal, such a threat will be much less potent."

If there were no agreement the current level of China and Russia on sanctions could drop off at any time. This argument is meaningless.

 

[idb]

"Is support for the Iran deal dropping? It appears so.

Just two weeks after it was struck, Americans appear to be taking an increasingly negative view of the Iran nuclear deal.

A CNN-ORC poll released Tuesday finds 52 percent of Americans say Congress should reject the deal, while 44 percent want them to approve it. The findings mirror a Pew Research poll released last week and mark the first public polls this year to find majority or plurality opposition to a deal with Iran."

Is support for the Iran deal dropping It appears so. - The Washington Post

Seems people are having "buyers remorse" on this deal. Once they realized Obama supports state sponsored terrorism they had a change of heart.

No, just stupid people like you oppose it. It is what your handlers are telling you to parrot...

The new poll finds a sharp partisan gap on whether Congress should approve the deal, with 66% of Republicans and 55% of independents saying Congress ought to reject it and 61% of Democrats saying it should be approved. Younger adults, who tend to lean more Democratic, are more apt to favor the deal: 53% of those age 18-34 say approve it, while 56% of those age 35 or older say reject it. There is also an education divide on the deal, with 53% of college graduates saying the deal should be approved, while just 37% of those with a high school degree or less formal education saying they think it should be approved.

I am not stupid I just do not approve of giving away any leverage while getting very little in return.

The leverage is still there - it's the threat of future sanctions and the backing of the other negotiating partners.
Iran is the only side that gave anything away.

What leverage?
Russia, China and other Shanghai Cooperation Organization nations
have already stated sanctions against Iran are "unacceptable".
Sanctions against Iran unacceptable Russia China other SCO nations RT News
They are rushing all over themselves to do business with Iran and further sanctions from them are nearly impossible to imagine.

The Batman and Robin of ineffectual diplomacy (Obama and Kerry) have already committed us to a deal that removes all leverage and taken it to the UN
in an attempt to undercut and unduly influence Congress.
It's impossible to see what Iran has "given away" since they get all they wanted and more. All they have to do is wait. The deal is a bullshit sham and as such Obama would be right in considering it one of his shining accomplishments as president.

So, what you're saying is that the sanctions were going to go away anyway?

 

[Vigilante]

Please

Well that answers that question. Republicans are apparently just about this stupid.

Truth hurts little subversives.... But they will complain even when confronted by it!

 

[skye]

One dangerous scenario is that Iran pulls out of the agreement anytime it wishes in the near future, on the grounds of a technical dispute, which would not be unlikely as there already are differences about the whole deal.

Iran knows only too well Obama has submitted to the Ayatollah and wont take any meaninful actions. He is a weak left wing idealist.

We had the winning hand as Iran was economically weak but thanks to Obama's cowardice they have won, that's why they are celebrating!

If Iran breaches the deal, sanctions can't be reimposed, one reason would be the blocking by Russia and China.

The rest of the world would meekly submit to whatever Iran does, just the same as happened with North Korea's nuclear agreement and going further back with nazi Germany prior the WWII, when the UK PM said "Peace In Our Times".


Once Iran, which has now been accepted and welcomed by the rest of the world, has consolidated its power, received its 150 billion dollars bonus and is trading full blast with other countries, what is to stop Iran from breaking the deal?

Absolutely nothing!



A rotten deal, thanks Obama, Kerry and his idiotic followers.

 

[Vigilante]

"Is support for the Iran deal dropping? It appears so.

Just two weeks after it was struck, Americans appear to be taking an increasingly negative view of the Iran nuclear deal.

A CNN-ORC poll released Tuesday finds 52 percent of Americans say Congress should reject the deal, while 44 percent want them to approve it. The findings mirror a Pew Research poll released last week and mark the first public polls this year to find majority or plurality opposition to a deal with Iran."

Is support for the Iran deal dropping It appears so. - The Washington Post

Seems people are having "buyers remorse" on this deal. Once they realized Obama supports state sponsored terrorism they had a change of heart.

No, just stupid people like you oppose it. It is what your handlers are telling you to parrot...

The new poll finds a sharp partisan gap on whether Congress should approve the deal, with 66% of Republicans and 55% of independents saying Congress ought to reject it and 61% of Democrats saying it should be approved. Younger adults, who tend to lean more Democratic, are more apt to favor the deal: 53% of those age 18-34 say approve it, while 56% of those age 35 or older say reject it. There is also an education divide on the deal, with 53% of college graduates saying the deal should be approved, while just 37% of those with a high school degree or less formal education saying they think it should be approved.

I am not stupid I just do not approve of giving away any leverage while getting very little in return.

The leverage is still there - it's the threat of future sanctions and the backing of the other negotiating partners.
Iran is the only side that gave anything away.

Worked well with N.Korea, didn't it...brainless!

 

[idb]

What

One dangerous scenario is that Iran pulls out of the agreement anytime it wishes in the near future, on the grounds of a technical dispute, which would not be unlikely as there already are differences about the whole deal.

Iran knows only too well Obama has submitted to the Ayatollah and wont take any meaninful actions. He is a weak left wing idealist.

We had the winning hand as Iran was economically weak but thanks to Obama's cowardice they have won, that's why they are celebrating!

If Iran breaches the deal, sanctions can't be reimposed, one reason would be the blocking by Russia and China.

The rest of the world would meekly submit to whatever Iran does, just the same as happened with North Korea's nuclear agreement and going further back with nazi Germany prior the WWII, when the UK PM said "Peace In Our Times".


Once Iran, which has now been accepted and welcomed by the rest of the world, has consolidated its power, received its 150 billion dollars bonus and is trading full blast with other countries, what is to stop Iran from breaking the deal?

Absolutely nothing!



A rotten deal, thanks Obama, Kerry and his idiotic followers.

What was the alternative?
You're talking about war aren't you?

 

[idb]

"Is support for the Iran deal dropping? It appears so.

Just two weeks after it was struck, Americans appear to be taking an increasingly negative view of the Iran nuclear deal.

A CNN-ORC poll released Tuesday finds 52 percent of Americans say Congress should reject the deal, while 44 percent want them to approve it. The findings mirror a Pew Research poll released last week and mark the first public polls this year to find majority or plurality opposition to a deal with Iran."

Is support for the Iran deal dropping It appears so. - The Washington Post

Seems people are having "buyers remorse" on this deal. Once they realized Obama supports state sponsored terrorism they had a change of heart.

No, just stupid people like you oppose it. It is what your handlers are telling you to parrot...

The new poll finds a sharp partisan gap on whether Congress should approve the deal, with 66% of Republicans and 55% of independents saying Congress ought to reject it and 61% of Democrats saying it should be approved. Younger adults, who tend to lean more Democratic, are more apt to favor the deal: 53% of those age 18-34 say approve it, while 56% of those age 35 or older say reject it. There is also an education divide on the deal, with 53% of college graduates saying the deal should be approved, while just 37% of those with a high school degree or less formal education saying they think it should be approved.

I am not stupid I just do not approve of giving away any leverage while getting very little in return.

The leverage is still there - it's the threat of future sanctions and the backing of the other negotiating partners.
Iran is the only side that gave anything away.

Worked well with N.Korea, didn't it...brainless!

It also worked well with Iran didn't it?

 

[Vigilante]

"Is support for the Iran deal dropping? It appears so.

Just two weeks after it was struck, Americans appear to be taking an increasingly negative view of the Iran nuclear deal.

A CNN-ORC poll released Tuesday finds 52 percent of Americans say Congress should reject the deal, while 44 percent want them to approve it. The findings mirror a Pew Research poll released last week and mark the first public polls this year to find majority or plurality opposition to a deal with Iran."

Is support for the Iran deal dropping It appears so. - The Washington Post

Seems people are having "buyers remorse" on this deal. Once they realized Obama supports state sponsored terrorism they had a change of heart.

No, just stupid people like you oppose it. It is what your handlers are telling you to parrot...

The new poll finds a sharp partisan gap on whether Congress should approve the deal, with 66% of Republicans and 55% of independents saying Congress ought to reject it and 61% of Democrats saying it should be approved. Younger adults, who tend to lean more Democratic, are more apt to favor the deal: 53% of those age 18-34 say approve it, while 56% of those age 35 or older say reject it. There is also an education divide on the deal, with 53% of college graduates saying the deal should be approved, while just 37% of those with a high school degree or less formal education saying they think it should be approved.

I am not stupid I just do not approve of giving away any leverage while getting very little in return.

The leverage is still there - it's the threat of future sanctions and the backing of the other negotiating partners.
Iran is the only side that gave anything away.

Worked well with N.Korea, didn't it...brainless!

It also worked well with Iran didn't it?

IF we kept the sanctions on, and did what we were doing... you think those scum in Iran would have done anything? If you do, what would they do?

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

"Time to Call Obama and Kerry What They Are Traitors"

Kerry has been a Traitor to the United States since the early 1970s when he went to Paris to sit down with the Communist enemies of North Vietnam, taking their plan to undermine the US war effort, bringing those plans back to the US and executing those plans.

He should have been charged, tried, convicted and hung... and if he HAD been, we wouldn't be watching that douche-bag conspire with a Muslim insurgent to license Iran with Nuclear weapons with which to attack the US, our interests and allies.

Fuck John Kerry ETERNALLY!

 

[idb]

No, just stupid people like you oppose it. It is what your handlers are telling you to parrot...

The new poll finds a sharp partisan gap on whether Congress should approve the deal, with 66% of Republicans and 55% of independents saying Congress ought to reject it and 61% of Democrats saying it should be approved. Younger adults, who tend to lean more Democratic, are more apt to favor the deal: 53% of those age 18-34 say approve it, while 56% of those age 35 or older say reject it. There is also an education divide on the deal, with 53% of college graduates saying the deal should be approved, while just 37% of those with a high school degree or less formal education saying they think it should be approved.

I am not stupid I just do not approve of giving away any leverage while getting very little in return.

The leverage is still there - it's the threat of future sanctions and the backing of the other negotiating partners.
Iran is the only side that gave anything away.

Worked well with N.Korea, didn't it...brainless!

It also worked well with Iran didn't it?

IF we kept the sanctions on, and did what we were doing... you think those scum in Iran would have done anything? If you do, what would they do?

I'm not sure what your question is.
It sort of looks like English but...

 

[idb]

"Time to Call Obama and Kerry What They Are Traitors"

Kerry has been a Traitor to the United States since the early 1970s when he went to Paris to sit down with the Communist enemies of North Vietnam, taking their plan to undermine the US war effort, bringing those plans back to the US and executing those plans.

He should have been charged, tried, convicted and hung... and if he HAD been, we wouldn't be watching that douche-bag conspire with a Muslim insurgent to license Iran with Nuclear weapons with which to attack the US, our interests and allies.

Fuck John Kerry ETERNALLY!

But, on the plus side, Iran gets no nuclear weapons and the US doesn't have to lose another war.

 

[Vigilante]

I am not stupid I just do not approve of giving away any leverage while getting very little in return.

The leverage is still there - it's the threat of future sanctions and the backing of the other negotiating partners.
Iran is the only side that gave anything away.

Worked well with N.Korea, didn't it...brainless!

It also worked well with Iran didn't it?

IF we kept the sanctions on, and did what we were doing... you think those scum in Iran would have done anything? If you do, what would they do?

I'm not sure what your question is.
It sort of looks like English but...

Sorry, it's pictures for dumbasses for you!

 

[Vigilante]

"Time to Call Obama and Kerry What They Are Traitors"

Kerry has been a Traitor to the United States since the early 1970s when he went to Paris to sit down with the Communist enemies of North Vietnam, taking their plan to undermine the US war effort, bringing those plans back to the US and executing those plans.

He should have been charged, tried, convicted and hung... and if he HAD been, we wouldn't be watching that douche-bag conspire with a Muslim insurgent to license Iran with Nuclear weapons with which to attack the US, our interests and allies.

Fuck John Kerry ETERNALLY!

But, on the plus side, Iran gets no nuclear weapons and the US doesn't have to lose another war.

Because they are so trust worth, as shown after 55 hostages were held for 444 days! DAMN!!!!

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

” But with China and Russia both keen to forge new business relationships with Iran, it’s unclear whether reinstating the current level of sanctions will be possible in the future. And unless the U.S. is able to reimpose sanctions with the support of all its partners in the deal, such a threat will be much less potent."

If there were no agreement the current level of China and Russia on sanctions could drop off at any time. This argument is meaningless.

OR... sanctions could have stayed in place indefinitely had the US, France, Germany and the UK provided a united front (which they didn't as Obama and his bitch John Kerry wanted this deal even more than the nut job theocrats in Iran).

The next president (a republican) should keep his supply of bunker busting bombs well stocked. Obama has insured this will be our only response available now that his give away has tied our hands.

 

[idb]

The leverage is still there - it's the threat of future sanctions and the backing of the other negotiating partners.
Iran is the only side that gave anything away.

Worked well with N.Korea, didn't it...brainless!

It also worked well with Iran didn't it?

IF we kept the sanctions on, and did what we were doing... you think those scum in Iran would have done anything? If you do, what would they do?

I'm not sure what your question is.
It sort of looks like English but...

Sorry, it's pictures for dumbasses for you!

What's changed?
You only converse in memes and cartoons anyway.