Don't you think the word "attacks" is inappropriate in this case? You could say democrats attack the homes and families of Supreme Court Justices but Trump merely criticized the election results. Drama queens on the left never miss a freaking trick.
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Threats to those after Trump attacks them
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Sixties Fan
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Use any other words for what any of this verbal occurrence would be called at any other time, in any other country.Don't you think the word "attacks" is inappropriate in this case? You could say democrats attack the homes and families of Supreme Court Justices but Trump merely criticized the election results. Drama queens on the left never miss a freaking trick.
In His Own Words: The President’s Attacks on the Courts
Donald Trump has displayed a troubling pattern of attacking judges and the courts for rulings he disagrees with.
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Like the summer of love from BLM AND ANITFA.
Its the people’s right to destroy property and assault people!
DONT START WHINING ABOUT RIOTS.
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Trump attacks = Trump exercises his right to free speech.Trump attacks the election results, threats from his supporters happen.
Trump attacks Mike Pence, threats from his supporters happen.
Trump attacks Poll Workers, threats from his supporters happen.
Trump attacks Election officials, threats from his supporters happen.
Trump attacks Congress members, threats from his supporters happen.
Trump attacks the DOJ, threats from his supporters happen.
Trump attacks the FBI, threats and attacks from his supporters happen.
Trump attacks NARA, threats from his supporters happen.
GFY, you anti-American butthole.
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link us up to a video where Trump told anyone to attack anything.They were not told by any President or former President , or Congress officials to Stand Down, or to come to those places as Trump asked his supporters to come to DC on 1/6/21.
Trump knows that if he attacks anyone, or any institution or organization, that some of his supporters will go online, or in person and threaten those he is saying anything against.
It was never like this before Trump took office.
Ill wait.
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Portland journalist Andy Ngo speaks out, says Antifa behind attack
"The hits kept coming from all different directions and just when I thought it was done, it wasn't."
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From his Fixer, who did everything Trump indirectly told him to do, for ten years.link us up to a video where Trump told anyone to attack anything.
Ill wait.
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link us up to a video where Trump told anyone to attack anything.
Ill wait.
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what specific time in the video is Trump there telling people to attack something? I dont want to see the entire propaganda nonsense. Just the moment with Trump doing that.
go ahead and admit you're full of shit and he's not there doing that so we can save some time.
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Trump's patsy Lindsey Graham has predicted riots if Trump is prosecuted. Apparently Graham was lying as usual when he condemned what happened on Jan. 6.
It there is violence Graham will be hiding under Trump's desk at Mar A Lago, his favorite spot.
It there is violence Graham will be hiding under Trump's desk at Mar A Lago, his favorite spot.
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what specific time in the video is Trump there telling people to attack something? I dont want to see the entire propaganda nonsense. Just the moment with Trump doing that.
go ahead and admit you're full of shit and he's not there doing that so we can save some time.
And they say you aren't a snowflake....lolTrump attacks the election results, threats from his supporters happen.
Trump attacks Mike Pence, threats from his supporters happen.
Trump attacks Poll Workers, threats from his supporters happen.
Trump attacks Election officials, threats from his supporters happen.
Trump attacks Congress members, threats from his supporters happen.
Trump attacks the DOJ, threats from his supporters happen.
Trump attacks the FBI, threats and attacks from his supporters happen.
Trump attacks NARA, threats from his supporters happen.
The last one is the latest coming from Trump basically sending his smoke signals to his supporters that he needs help in delegitimizing what has been happening in the past year and a half.
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The National Archives and Records Administration has become yet another target of threats in the wake of attacks by former President Donald Trump after the FBI seized government documents from his Mar-a-Lago residence, sources have told The Washington Post.
After Trump unleashed a torrent of invective against an agency widely viewed as librarian-like and apolitical, police increased patrols around the National Archives building in Washington, D.C., due to a troubling “spike in online chatter” about the facility, sources told the Post.
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Acting archivist Debra Steidel Wall sent a message Wednesday telling NARA staff to stand strong in the face of threats, according to the Post.
“NARA has received messages from the public accusing us of corruption and conspiring against the former President, or congratulating NARA for ‘bringing him down,’” Steidel Wall wrote in the agency-wide message obtained by The Post. “Neither is accurate or welcome.”
Trump has treated the documents as his personal property, though, under the Presidential Records Act, they belong to the American people.
National Archives Now Targeted By Threats After Trump Attacks: Report
Acting archivist Debra Steidel Wall has told staff simply working to enforce the law to stand strong.www.huffpost.com
National Archives hit with threats after Trump search
The National Archives isn't the only federal agency facing a deluge of threats after the Mar-a-Lago search.www.axios.com
The above may not be all of the people or organizations being threatened by Trump supporters once he attacks them in the past six or seven years. There may be more.
Needless to say, no other former President has ever attacked any of those people or organizations, that I know of, which would lead their supporters, in office or voters, to act by threatening or even physically attacking them.
Needless to say, any other government official, and non official, etc, would have already been indicted. But supporters like Lindsay Graham have recently stated that if Trump is prosecuted, there will be riots in the street. Only making things worse for the Rule of Law.
Too much is at stake with some people, too many people, thinking that they do not have to honor and uphold the Constitution and the Rule of Law of the USA, which they swore to once they took office.
Anyway, how many of these threads does one section need?
Trump condemned those who broke the law January 6th, and he spoke before the event calling for a peaceful demonstration.
That is all you can do.
No he didn't condemn them. He said they were special.
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Better aAnd they say you aren't a snowflake....lol
Anyway, how many of these threads does one section need?
Than a
The second one is your attempt at being knowledgeable. That is all that comes out.
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"Had one of his groupies....."???"Bernie Sanders had one of his groupies show up to assassinate....."
To state the above on a public social media site is reckless and irresponsible. Unthinking statements accelerate the corrosive discourse in America.
To poster Votto, the divisive rhetoric we so often witness in today's America lead directly back to the mindset that any old dickhead statement can be made on social media as sort of a verbal enema.....and it is OK.
It is not OK.
If one wants to be a jerk....confine it to one's home. And to one's family. Be that kind of a role model to the children.
No offense intended.
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Earlier this month, the Department of Justice announced the arrest of a Pennsylvania man charged with threatening to kill FBI personnel after federal agents executed a search warrant at the Florida home of former President Donald Trump.
The suspect, Adam Bies, had allegedly posted a series of threats on the far-right social media platform Gab, in which he compared the FBI to Nazi- and Soviet-era secret police, discussed wanting to “slaughter” agents and wrote, among other things, “I sincerely believe that if you work at the FBI you deserve to die.” He’s been charged with interstate threats and influencing or retaliating against a federal officer.
Bies’s alleged posts were part of a deluge of violent and vulgar content that spread quickly across pro-Trump segments of social media in response to the Aug. 8 search of Mar-a-Lago, which stemmed from an investigation into the possible mishandling of classified documents that were taken from the White House after Trump’s term in office.
Outraged Trump supporters called for civil war and circulated personal information about the federal judge who approved the warrant authorizing the search, along with antisemitic threats. But the bulk of the vitriol was directed at the FBI.
On Aug. 11, one day before Bies was arrested at his home in Mercer, Pa., a man in Ohio was killed by police after he allegedly attempted to attack an FBI field office in Cincinnati with a nail gun and an AR-15. He appears to have posted a call to arms against the FBI on Truth Social, Trump’s social media platform, prior to the attempted attack.
For extremism experts and federal law enforcement alike, the Cincinnati incident highlighted how this kind of rhetoric can inspire real-world violence. But intercepting such threats can be complicated.
The Bies case offers a glimpse of how law enforcement identifies legitimate threats of violence online, and what the difference is between criminal threats and the rest of the hateful, vile and often violent — yet protected — speech that has become commonplace across social media.
“The way I had always internalized it is, it needed to be a specific threat to injure, harm or kill a particular individual or group of individuals,” she said. Simply disapproving of the way the FBI operates, or even generally wishing death on the agency’s employees, would not be enough to constitute a prosecutorial offense.
“When I was in the U.S. attorney's office, we’d have a few of these every year where somebody posted something online about killing cops,” McQuade said. “And it’s hard because we would get these things from social media where people said really awful, ugly things. But even [something] like ‘All cops should die’ or ‘I wish they would die’ would not amount to what is known as a true threat.”
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According to court documents, after being alerted to the threatening posts by the DTTM, the FBI issued an emergency disclosure request to Gab, which promptly handed over information regarding the BlankFocus account, including the user’s email address and recent IP logs, which ultimately led the bureau to Bies.
After Bies’s arrest, Gab CEO Andrew Torba issued a warning to other users: “Let me spell this out for you in plain terms: do not post threats of violence on Gab or anywhere else on the internet. Threats of violence are not protected by the First Amendment and therefore are not protected by Gab’s Terms of Service.”
Gab also confirmed its cooperation with the FBI in a statement days later, after receiving a letter from top Democrats on the House Oversight Committee requesting information on how social media companies are responding to the spike in online threats against law enforcement officers since the search at Mar-a-Lago.
Following his initial court appearance, a grand jury indicted Bies on a total of 14 counts — seven for interstate threats and seven for influencing or retaliating against a federal officer — related to seven of his alleged posts targeting FBI officers following the Mar-a-Lago raid. If found guilty, he faces a maximum penalty of up to 10 years in prison, a fine of $250,000 or both.
Bies has pleaded not guilty. Sarah Levin, the federal public defender representing him, did not respond to a request for comment.
At a detention hearing on Aug. 19, Frankhouser reportedly testified that when agents arrived to arrest Bies at his home, he emerged from the house carrying an AR-style assault rifle before complying with commands to drop the weapon. Prosecutors said 12 other guns were found in a search of the house, including shotguns, rifles and pistols, as well as a compound bow.
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The suspect, Adam Bies, had allegedly posted a series of threats on the far-right social media platform Gab, in which he compared the FBI to Nazi- and Soviet-era secret police, discussed wanting to “slaughter” agents and wrote, among other things, “I sincerely believe that if you work at the FBI you deserve to die.” He’s been charged with interstate threats and influencing or retaliating against a federal officer.
Bies’s alleged posts were part of a deluge of violent and vulgar content that spread quickly across pro-Trump segments of social media in response to the Aug. 8 search of Mar-a-Lago, which stemmed from an investigation into the possible mishandling of classified documents that were taken from the White House after Trump’s term in office.
Outraged Trump supporters called for civil war and circulated personal information about the federal judge who approved the warrant authorizing the search, along with antisemitic threats. But the bulk of the vitriol was directed at the FBI.
On Aug. 11, one day before Bies was arrested at his home in Mercer, Pa., a man in Ohio was killed by police after he allegedly attempted to attack an FBI field office in Cincinnati with a nail gun and an AR-15. He appears to have posted a call to arms against the FBI on Truth Social, Trump’s social media platform, prior to the attempted attack.
For extremism experts and federal law enforcement alike, the Cincinnati incident highlighted how this kind of rhetoric can inspire real-world violence. But intercepting such threats can be complicated.
The Bies case offers a glimpse of how law enforcement identifies legitimate threats of violence online, and what the difference is between criminal threats and the rest of the hateful, vile and often violent — yet protected — speech that has become commonplace across social media.
“The way I had always internalized it is, it needed to be a specific threat to injure, harm or kill a particular individual or group of individuals,” she said. Simply disapproving of the way the FBI operates, or even generally wishing death on the agency’s employees, would not be enough to constitute a prosecutorial offense.
“When I was in the U.S. attorney's office, we’d have a few of these every year where somebody posted something online about killing cops,” McQuade said. “And it’s hard because we would get these things from social media where people said really awful, ugly things. But even [something] like ‘All cops should die’ or ‘I wish they would die’ would not amount to what is known as a true threat.”
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According to court documents, after being alerted to the threatening posts by the DTTM, the FBI issued an emergency disclosure request to Gab, which promptly handed over information regarding the BlankFocus account, including the user’s email address and recent IP logs, which ultimately led the bureau to Bies.
After Bies’s arrest, Gab CEO Andrew Torba issued a warning to other users: “Let me spell this out for you in plain terms: do not post threats of violence on Gab or anywhere else on the internet. Threats of violence are not protected by the First Amendment and therefore are not protected by Gab’s Terms of Service.”
Gab also confirmed its cooperation with the FBI in a statement days later, after receiving a letter from top Democrats on the House Oversight Committee requesting information on how social media companies are responding to the spike in online threats against law enforcement officers since the search at Mar-a-Lago.
Following his initial court appearance, a grand jury indicted Bies on a total of 14 counts — seven for interstate threats and seven for influencing or retaliating against a federal officer — related to seven of his alleged posts targeting FBI officers following the Mar-a-Lago raid. If found guilty, he faces a maximum penalty of up to 10 years in prison, a fine of $250,000 or both.
Bies has pleaded not guilty. Sarah Levin, the federal public defender representing him, did not respond to a request for comment.
At a detention hearing on Aug. 19, Frankhouser reportedly testified that when agents arrived to arrest Bies at his home, he emerged from the house carrying an AR-style assault rifle before complying with commands to drop the weapon. Prosecutors said 12 other guns were found in a search of the house, including shotguns, rifles and pistols, as well as a compound bow.
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How a series of online threats against the FBI led to a Pennsylvania man's arrest
The Bies case offers a glimpse at how law enforcement identifies legitimate threats of violence online, and what the difference is between criminal threats and the rest of the hateful, vile and often violent – yet protected – speech that has become commonplace across social media.
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But he was a Bernie Sanders fan, one that kept hearing his rhetoric about revolution"Had one of his groupies....."???
To state the above on a public social media site is reckless and irresponsible. Unthinking statements accelerate the corrosive discourse in America.
To poster Votto, the divisive rhetoric we so often witness in today's America lead directly back to the mindset that any old dickhead statement can be made on social media as sort of a verbal enema.....and it is OK.
It is not OK.
If one wants to be a jerk....confine it to one's home. And to one's family. Be that kind of a role model to the children.
No offense intended.
Ever witness a revolution in history that did not include violence?
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"But he was a Bernie Sanders fan......"
No, poster Votto. You are trying to duck & cover.
Being a "Bernie fan"....is not.....is NOT.....the same as Bernie sending him to kill anybody.
Stating that Bernie "had one of his groupies" do so is a far far different claim that what you are trying to duck & cover with.
I will repeat.....unless you wish to retract.....but I will repeat that your allegation that Bernie Sanders sent one of his fans to kill Republicans at a ball game is reckless, irresponsible, and corrosive.
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