Threat of Fascism in American Politics

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[FuelRod]

If my demands are not met then I will continue to denounce the tea party as fascist.

Irony defined yet again by your friendly neighborhood Libertard.

 

[WillowTree]

I guess his ass ran out of demands,

 

[kaz]

Not really, I'm saying they are. Someone please tell me how they are not. I want: a) a quotation from a leading figure of the tea party where they define democracy, liberty and/or freedom, i.e. do not simply list these concepts as their platform but discuss what one or more of these concepts means. b) an example where Tea Party politics demonstrate the concept(s) of democracy, liberty, and/or freedom. c) an explanation of why their actions are synonymous with democracy, liberty, and/or freedom.

If my demands are not met then I will continue to denounce the tea party as fascist.

Your friend doesn't know "fascist" means.

But what he's trying to say is tea party is hateful, which he's using hate to convey. Liberals for whatever reason don't believe hypocrisy is an obstacle...for themselves...

 

[hst_patriot]

Wry Catcher, clearly you are much more capable of debate. Obviously a Tea Party forum is going to be about Tea Party ideas, and I want to discuss why the Tea Party represents liberty, democracy and freedom, because it does not appear to me to be so. You mention Obama "the socialist", this is a major misconception held by the right, and like everything else they believe is unsupported opinion made to seem true because its on a major TV network.

Obama is much less a Marxist than the tea party is fascist, and furthermore, has exhibited fascism when he supplemented the government bailouts delivered by the Bush Administration. (Don't mean to bring Bush into the debate, mention his administration only because of the relevance to bailouts). The fascist notions in these bailouts are, even though these companies, which exist in a free market, made poor business decisions the America tax payers would foot the bill.

This is closer to fascism than marxism because the government is sympathizing with corporate prospectives and values, it is better for business if the tax payer foots the bill because the current owner won't lose their wealth. These actions illustrate the government essentially saying "Hey America, I know its these guys fault, but they have money and power, and if we don't help them they'll lose it." So what? Others, who have been fiscally responsible, may renew industry. If Obama were Marxist, both the banking and auto industries would be entirely under government control, and the money generated from them would be used to fund the nation. This is not the case.

I consider the Tea Party so dangerous because they have claim to support liberty, freedom and democracy, but every instance where I observe their reactions to recent events, and their approach to these events, I observe a political group which; is funded by an extremely wealthy core of corporate identified persons, and is tethered to the advantage of such people. I see a group constantly depicted as a last hope on a major news network, Fox News, tells viewers who they should vote for.

A responsible news network does not say "Obama is a socialist", as I've seen that lobotomized blonde in the morning say on Fox, but rather something like, "Those who oppose Obama argue he is a socialist because..." then they would cite the oppositions reason for claiming he is a socialist. Notice how the former asserts opinion as a fact, and the other is reporting on events in Washington?

None of this sounds like liberty, democracy, or freedom to me.

 

[hst_patriot]

the Tea Party is about to adulterate a libertarian classic; Atlas Shrugged?

Ayn Rand is pissed.

 

[Mr Liberty]

Not really, I'm saying they are. Someone please tell me how they are not. I want: a) a quotation from a leading figure of the tea party where they define democracy, liberty and/or freedom, i.e. do not simply list these concepts as their platform but discuss what one or more of these concepts means. b) an example where Tea Party politics demonstrate the concept(s) of democracy, liberty, and/or freedom. c) an explanation of why their actions are synonymous with democracy, liberty, and/or freedom.

If my demands are not met then I will continue to denounce the tea party as fascist.

Liberals/Socialists, who take an individual property by force, do not value liberty! You already live in a fascist state. Do you really think your congressman represent you?

 

[del]

the book sucked

ayn rand sucked

you suck

 

[FuelRod]

I'm more pissed about the singularity of topic in the threads you start.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Our entire gov't is fascist, no point in singling out a tiny group.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.......​

fascism: often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.

February 03, 2011

Paul Ryan Plotting With Billionaire $upporter$​

Try askin' a tough-question, the next time.

 

[ABikerSailor]

When did the Tea Party become a political party?

When the teabaggers went and formed their own political caucus in the House.

Cantor, Paul, Bachmann......they're all teabaggers and they are the ones holding up the GOP from working with the Dems to get the budget passed.

Incidentally, it looks like Cantor is gunning for Boehner's seat.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Our entire gov't is fascist, no point in singling out a tiny group.

Are you claiming the the merger of General Motors and Chrysler with the Federal Government is somehow "fascist?"

Whew!!!!!

You 'Baggers surely do seem to enjoy gettin'....

.....slapped-around.

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[hst_patriot]

People don't like the tea party because they want to return to the days before Upton Sinclair's, The Jungle, was written. A glorious time when small children were allowed to work in coal mines, and textile factories. Where family dinner consisted of a loaf of bread. Where vast social communication is regulated, that way people won't have too many free thoughts.

Yes, in those days there was no such thing as a college education for under privileged, or upward mobility. Ah, the American Dream; a land where pork sausages were made with the fingers of the workers who packaged them, and industry and business ruled with an iron fist, and was unchallenged, by the liberty of those below them. Those were the days.

Vote for the Tea Party to end ALL responsibility of those who own our corporations. They can pay us all 25 cents an hour to make shoes, just like the Chinese.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

This will be fun, count me in the they're facist. Lets take on the tea party and their threats to Speaker Boehner:

Boehner resists budget deal as Tea Partier seeks his ouster - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

He is in a tough place, he is dealing with a bunch of idiots who don't understand that they don't always get their way. They are just a bunch of babies. Racist babies I might add.

RealClearPolitics - Racism and the Tea Party Movement

Is it a coincidence that this anger came when a black man was elected president? I think not. Its because he is black that the anger is there. They are a very radical group.

 

[JimH52]

Fascism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Fascists believe that a nation requires strong leadership, singular collective identity, and the will and ability to commit violence and wage war in order to keep the nation strong.[

Looks pretty close to me!

 

[hst_patriot]

Ok. This board is full of ignorance, and apathy. While looking through Tea Party forum posts, I've noticed that threads labeled as "Hot" support the Tea Party, while those that are critical are labeled "old". Thus, you are too busy tugging on each other's dicks, and cupping one another's balls, to engage in a debate about your principles. The Tea Party movement is apparently headed by wealthy fascists, and fueled by functioning retards like Marauder.

Also, this thread has had many more views than posts. Are you too stupid to defend your opinion? Is Marauder your spokesman? If so I would highly recommend getting a new one. One of you has to be intelligent and can formulate an argument based on examples. One that, unlike Marauder, isn't retarded.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Not really, I'm saying they are. Someone please tell me how they are not. I want: a) a quotation from a leading figure of the tea party where they define democracy, liberty and/or freedom, i.e. do not simply list these concepts as their platform but discuss what one or more of these concepts means. b) an example where Tea Party politics demonstrate the concept(s) of democracy, liberty, and/or freedom. c) an explanation of why their actions are synonymous with democracy, liberty, and/or freedom.

If my demands are not met then I will continue to denounce the tea party as fascist.

I think you may be right......

From Dictionary.com

fas·cist   /ˈfæʃɪst/ Show Spelled
[fash-ist] Show IPA

–noun
1. a person who believes in or sympathizes with fascism.
2. ( often initial capital letter ) a member of a fascist movement or party.
3. a person who is dictatorial or has extreme right-wing views.

And, here's something from wikipedia........

Fascism ( /ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a radical, authoritarian nationalist political ideology.[1][2] Fascists seek to organize a nation according to corporatist perspectives, values, and systems, including the political system and the economy.[3] They advocate the creation of a totalitarian single-party state that seeks the mass mobilization of a nation and the creation of an ideal "new man" to form a governing elite through indoctrination, physical education, and family policy including eugenics.[4] Fascists believe that a nation requires strong leadership, singular collective identity, and the will and ability to commit violence and wage war in order to keep the nation strong.[5] Fascist governments forbid and suppress opposition to the state.[6]

Fascism was founded by Italian national syndicalists in World War I who combined left-wing and right-wing political views, but it gravitated to the right in the early 1920s.[7][8] Scholars generally consider fascism to be on the far right.[9][10][11][12][13]

Fascists exalt violence, war, and militarism as providing positive transformation in society, in providing spiritual renovation, education, instilling of a will to dominate in people's character, and creating national comradeship through the military service.[14] Fascists view violence and war as actions that create national regeneration, spirit and vitality.[15]

Fascism is anti-communist, anti-democratic, anti-individualist, anti-liberal, anti-parliamentary, anti-conservative, anti-bourgeois and anti-proletarian, and in many cases anti-capitalist.[16] Fascism rejects the concepts of egalitarianism, materialism, and rationalism in favour of action, discipline, hierarchy, spirit, and will.[17] In economics, fascists oppose liberalism (as a bourgeois movement) and Marxism (as a proletarian movement) for being exclusive economic class-based movements.[18] Fascists present their ideology as that of an economically trans-class movement that promotes resolving economic class conflict to secure national solidarity.[19] They support a regulated, multi-class, integrated national economic system

Now, considering that the teabaggers themselves are corporate sponsored (Dick Army and the Koch brothers), as well as farther to the right than most GOP types, yeah.....they ARE fascists.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

This will be fun, count me in the they're facist. Lets take on the tea party and their threats to Speaker Boehner:

Boehner resists budget deal as Tea Partier seeks his ouster - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

He is in a tough place, he is dealing with a bunch of idiots who don't understand that they don't always get their way. They are just a bunch of babies. Racist babies I might add.

RealClearPolitics - Racism and the Tea Party Movement

Is it a coincidence that this anger came when a black man was elected president? I think not. Its because he is black that the anger is there. They are a very radical group.

If you stopped doing MJ long enough to allow your brain to function adequately, you would know that even the ACLU has failed to find any actual evidence of racism in the TEA Parties.... that'll be because they are not racist.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAAHMDpk7Ik]YouTube - Janeane Garofalo declares Tea Party attendees racist and Keith Olbermann agrees.[/ame]​

 

[Wry Catcher]

Ok. This board is full of ignorance, and apathy. While looking through Tea Party forum posts, I've noticed that threads labeled as "Hot" support the Tea Party, while those that are critical are labeled "old". Thus, you are too busy tugging on each other's dicks, and cupping one another's balls, to engage in a debate about your principles. The Tea Party movement is apparently headed by wealthy fascists, and fueled by functioning retards like Marauder.

Also, this thread has had many more views than posts. Are you too stupid to defend your opinion? Is Marauder your spokesman? If so I would highly recommend getting a new one. One of you has to be intelligent and can formulate an argument based on examples. One that, unlike Marauder, isn't retarded.

I would have offered thanks for this post but for one apparent mistake. Suggesting someone in the set occupied by Marauder "has to be intelligent and can formulate an arugment based on examples" or provide evidence to support their opinions is not based on any discernable evidence. In fact opinons by this group are stated as facts, immutable and not open to debate.

 

[JFK_USA]

This will be fun, count me in the they're facist. Lets take on the tea party and their threats to Speaker Boehner:

Boehner resists budget deal as Tea Partier seeks his ouster - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

He is in a tough place, he is dealing with a bunch of idiots who don't understand that they don't always get their way. They are just a bunch of babies. Racist babies I might add.

RealClearPolitics - Racism and the Tea Party Movement

Is it a coincidence that this anger came when a black man was elected president? I think not. Its because he is black that the anger is there. They are a very radical group.

If you stopped doing MJ long enough to allow your brain to function adequately, you would know that even the ACLU has failed to find any actual evidence of racism in the TEA Parties.... that'll be because they are not racist.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAAHMDpk7Ik]YouTube - Janeane Garofalo declares Tea Party attendees racist and Keith Olbermann agrees.[/ame]​

Oh snap! owned.