This is why Islam should be reformed.

The moment we decided as a species that it's more profitable to trade than to steal.

When you start trading, the outsider becomes an resource, not a threat.
When would you say that was exactly?

Feb 2, 8,736 BCE ... at approximately 2:35PM.
I was expecting a ballpark answer.

There sure have been a lot of wars since then don't you think?

Maybe they didn't get the memo.

You're confusing ideological difference with physical differences. Or, perhaps, you fail to make the distinction.
So you are saying that all wars are fought based upon ideological differences?

I certainly don't believe they were fought based on physical differences... although there certainly were physical differences between the tribes in most wars.

Many wars we've fought contain a racial component, but the real causes are ideological. Racialism is an appeal to a visceral hatred that comes in handy when inciting the population to support a war, but it's not the prime mover of wars.

I'm not saying that hard-wired xenophobia doesn't exist any longer, if certainly does. I'm saying it hasn't been an evolutionary advantage for humans for millennium.
 
When would you say that was exactly?

Feb 2, 8,736 BCE ... at approximately 2:35PM.
I was expecting a ballpark answer.

There sure have been a lot of wars since then don't you think?

Maybe they didn't get the memo.

You're confusing ideological difference with physical differences. Or, perhaps, you fail to make the distinction.
So you are saying that all wars are fought based upon ideological differences?

I certainly don't believe they were fought based on physical differences... although there certainly were physical differences between the tribes in most wars.

Many wars we've fought contain a racial component, but the real causes are ideological. Racialism is an appeal to a visceral hatred that comes in handy when inciting the population to support a war, but it's not the prime mover of wars.

I'm not saying that hard-wired xenophobia doesn't exist any longer, if certainly does. I'm saying it hasn't been an evolutionary advantage for humans for millennium.
Let's test that. Why do you believe WWII was fought?
 
Feb 2, 8,736 BCE ... at approximately 2:35PM.
I was expecting a ballpark answer.

There sure have been a lot of wars since then don't you think?

Maybe they didn't get the memo.

You're confusing ideological difference with physical differences. Or, perhaps, you fail to make the distinction.
So you are saying that all wars are fought based upon ideological differences?

I certainly don't believe they were fought based on physical differences... although there certainly were physical differences between the tribes in most wars.

Many wars we've fought contain a racial component, but the real causes are ideological. Racialism is an appeal to a visceral hatred that comes in handy when inciting the population to support a war, but it's not the prime mover of wars.

I'm not saying that hard-wired xenophobia doesn't exist any longer, if certainly does. I'm saying it hasn't been an evolutionary advantage for humans for millennium.
Let's test that. Why do you believe WWII was fought?

The British, French, Poles, Germans, Americans, Japanese, and everyone else who participated fought for their own reasons, none of them based on a biological aversion to physical differences.

Some fought to gain resources, other fought to defend resources, some fought for survival, and others for purely ideological reasons.
 
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When you start trading, the outsider becomes an resource, not a threat.
Not in all instances. The Chinese have been trading on a warlike basis for some time.
Intellectual property theft, hacking other nations IT systems the list could go on.
A deeper understanding of the blurred line between war and trade for many nations is well illustrated in The Asian Mind Game:Unlocking the Hidden Agenda of Asian Business Culture. Chin-ning Chu
 
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When you start trading, the outsider becomes an resource, not a threat.
Not in all instances. The Chinese have been trading on a warlike basis for some time.
Intellectual property theft, hacking other nations IT systems the list could go on.
A deeper understanding of the blurred line between war and trade for many nations is well illustrated in The Asian Mind Game:Unlocking the Hidden Agenda of Asian Business Culture. Chin-ning Chu

I'm speaking to the concept of trade as it pertains to human civilization as a whole.

If we have particular issues with trading partners, it's doesn't negate the fact that overall trading has advanced human civilization.
 
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When you start trading, the outsider becomes an resource, not a threat.
Not in all instances. The Chinese have been trading on a warlike basis for some time.
Intellectual property theft, hacking other nations IT systems the list could go on.
A deeper understanding of the blurred line between war and trade for many nations is well illustrated in The Asian Mind Game:Unlocking the Hidden Agenda of Asian Business Culture. Chin-ning Chu

I'm speaking to the concept of trade as it pertains to human civilization as a whole.

If we have particular issues with trading partners, it's doesn't negate the fact that overall trading has advanced human civilization.
True but I read your post as being as somewhat naive version of the Randian doctrinet trade solves everything and prevented wars.
 
I was expecting a ballpark answer.

There sure have been a lot of wars since then don't you think?

Maybe they didn't get the memo.

You're confusing ideological difference with physical differences. Or, perhaps, you fail to make the distinction.
So you are saying that all wars are fought based upon ideological differences?

I certainly don't believe they were fought based on physical differences... although there certainly were physical differences between the tribes in most wars.

Many wars we've fought contain a racial component, but the real causes are ideological. Racialism is an appeal to a visceral hatred that comes in handy when inciting the population to support a war, but it's not the prime mover of wars.

I'm not saying that hard-wired xenophobia doesn't exist any longer, if certainly does. I'm saying it hasn't been an evolutionary advantage for humans for millennium.
Let's test that. Why do you believe WWII was fought?

The British, French, Poles, Germans, Americans, Japanese, and everyone else who participated fought for their own reasons, none of them based on a biological aversion to physical differences.

Some fought to gain resources, other fought to defend resources, some fought for survival, and others for purely ideological reasons.
The Germans started the war. Why do you believe they went to war?
 
Islam is an old and well-established religion with a Billion followers world-wide. You can no more exterminate it than you can exterminate sunshine or air. Other people have tried to exterminate other, much smaller, religions in the past -- more accurately, exterminate followers of those religions, with disastrous consequences for those who tried. It simply can't be done.

More's to the point, it shouldn't be done.

There is nothing inherently evil about any religion, including Islam. Most religions have a segment of extreme followers who do awful things in the name of their faith, Islam isn't unique in this regard. Have you ever wondered why Islamic extremism is much more prevalent in Europe than in America?

Large segments of the Islamic community are isolated and segregated in Europe, both physically and economically. They have their own, often economically disadvantaged, communities. In America, our Muslim citizens are well-integrated both into our neighborhoods and in our work places.

If you want to remove extremism, in any group, your first step is to embrace their differences and offer inclusion into society. Normalization and assimilation are the tools to prevent extremism, not vilification and segregation.
Muslims segregate themselves by choice. They don't assimilate. Islam is evil.

I live next to and work with many Muslims ... they come to my house, I go to theirs. We attend each other's parties. I know they're Muslims, they know I'm Jewish. That doesn't sound very segregated to me.
I love personal stories on the internet. You can make up all kinds of shit and never have to prove it.

Well I can prove something for you and that Houston, Texas is the fourth largest populated city in America with a large Muslim community and very little hostility and to be really honest very little crime from the Muslim community unlike White, Black and Latino communities that are mostly Christian.

Can you explain this?

Of course not.

Also a really interesting point is I am more likely to be killed by a bad driver than a Muslim in this country.

So as the other poster pointed out the reason why most of them are civil here is because of their economic and social life here and how they are not oppressed.

So reality is not on your side.
 
Islam is an old and well-established religion with a Billion followers world-wide. You can no more exterminate it than you can exterminate sunshine or air. Other people have tried to exterminate other, much smaller, religions in the past -- more accurately, exterminate followers of those religions, with disastrous consequences for those who tried. It simply can't be done.

More's to the point, it shouldn't be done.

There is nothing inherently evil about any religion, including Islam. Most religions have a segment of extreme followers who do awful things in the name of their faith, Islam isn't unique in this regard. Have you ever wondered why Islamic extremism is much more prevalent in Europe than in America?

Large segments of the Islamic community are isolated and segregated in Europe, both physically and economically. They have their own, often economically disadvantaged, communities. In America, our Muslim citizens are well-integrated both into our neighborhoods and in our work places.

If you want to remove extremism, in any group, your first step is to embrace their differences and offer inclusion into society. Normalization and assimilation are the tools to prevent extremism, not vilification and segregation.
Muslims segregate themselves by choice. They don't assimilate. Islam is evil.

I live next to and work with many Muslims ... they come to my house, I go to theirs. We attend each other's parties. I know they're Muslims, they know I'm Jewish. That doesn't sound very segregated to me.
I love personal stories on the internet. You can make up all kinds of shit and never have to prove it.

Well I can prove something for you and that Houston, Texas is the fourth largest populated city in America with a large Muslim community and very little hostility and to be really honest very little crime from the Muslim community unlike White, Black and Latino communities that are mostly Christian.

Can you explain this?

Of course not.

Also a really interesting point is I am more likely to be killed by a bad driver than a Muslim in this country.

So as the other poster pointed out the reason why most of them are civil here is because of their economic and social life here and how they are not oppressed.

So reality is not on your side.
Good luck. I don't want to live in a country with muslims running things.
 
Islam is an old and well-established religion with a Billion followers world-wide. You can no more exterminate it than you can exterminate sunshine or air. Other people have tried to exterminate other, much smaller, religions in the past -- more accurately, exterminate followers of those religions, with disastrous consequences for those who tried. It simply can't be done.

More's to the point, it shouldn't be done.

There is nothing inherently evil about any religion, including Islam. Most religions have a segment of extreme followers who do awful things in the name of their faith, Islam isn't unique in this regard. Have you ever wondered why Islamic extremism is much more prevalent in Europe than in America?

Large segments of the Islamic community are isolated and segregated in Europe, both physically and economically. They have their own, often economically disadvantaged, communities. In America, our Muslim citizens are well-integrated both into our neighborhoods and in our work places.

If you want to remove extremism, in any group, your first step is to embrace their differences and offer inclusion into society. Normalization and assimilation are the tools to prevent extremism, not vilification and segregation.
Muslims segregate themselves by choice. They don't assimilate. Islam is evil.

I live next to and work with many Muslims ... they come to my house, I go to theirs. We attend each other's parties. I know they're Muslims, they know I'm Jewish. That doesn't sound very segregated to me.
I love personal stories on the internet. You can make up all kinds of shit and never have to prove it.

Well I can prove something for you and that Houston, Texas is the fourth largest populated city in America with a large Muslim community and very little hostility and to be really honest very little crime from the Muslim community unlike White, Black and Latino communities that are mostly Christian.

Can you explain this?

Of course not.

Also a really interesting point is I am more likely to be killed by a bad driver than a Muslim in this country.

So as the other poster pointed out the reason why most of them are civil here is because of their economic and social life here and how they are not oppressed.

So reality is not on your side.
Good luck. I don't want to live in a country with muslims running things.
Then don't. It's probably no picnic with a country run by christians as a theology either....look at the Puritans and what they did.
 
Muslims segregate themselves by choice. They don't assimilate. Islam is evil.

I live next to and work with many Muslims ... they come to my house, I go to theirs. We attend each other's parties. I know they're Muslims, they know I'm Jewish. That doesn't sound very segregated to me.
I love personal stories on the internet. You can make up all kinds of shit and never have to prove it.

Well I can prove something for you and that Houston, Texas is the fourth largest populated city in America with a large Muslim community and very little hostility and to be really honest very little crime from the Muslim community unlike White, Black and Latino communities that are mostly Christian.

Can you explain this?

Of course not.

Also a really interesting point is I am more likely to be killed by a bad driver than a Muslim in this country.

So as the other poster pointed out the reason why most of them are civil here is because of their economic and social life here and how they are not oppressed.

So reality is not on your side.
Good luck. I don't want to live in a country with muslims running things.
Then don't. It's probably no picnic with a country run by christians as a theology either....look at the Puritans and what they did.
The Puritans were not the norm. This is typical leftist thinking. You take a tiny out of the norm sample and compare it to the reality. There are no Nations with a Christian theocratic government. So what is it about Islam that you prefer over Christianity? I've asked you that many times and you still can't answer it.
 
Feb 2, 8,736 BCE ... at approximately 2:35PM.
I was expecting a ballpark answer.

There sure have been a lot of wars since then don't you think?

Maybe they didn't get the memo.

You're confusing ideological difference with physical differences. Or, perhaps, you fail to make the distinction.
So you are saying that all wars are fought based upon ideological differences?

I certainly don't believe they were fought based on physical differences... although there certainly were physical differences between the tribes in most wars.

Many wars we've fought contain a racial component, but the real causes are ideological. Racialism is an appeal to a visceral hatred that comes in handy when inciting the population to support a war, but it's not the prime mover of wars.

I'm not saying that hard-wired xenophobia doesn't exist any longer, if certainly does. I'm saying it hasn't been an evolutionary advantage for humans for millennium.
Let's test that. Why do you believe WWII was fought?

To stomp out Fascism, clearly, because the Allies killed nearly as much as the Axis in WW2, and the Allies prior to WW2 killed far more than the Axis.

As for Islam, it has it's issues, but I indentify more with they, than with Western Europeans.
 
So why would you support the extermination of Islam?
It is a sick, murderous, misogynistic, pedophilic, slave owning, vile menace to the world. A cancer.

I tend to think it's more about race, than about Islam.

Tatars, Bosniaks, Indonesians, aren't half as bad as the Arabs, because they are very different racially.

I have bad new for you, sobie------NEUROSCIENCE is my thing----careful study
has demonstrated that there are no racial differences in THE BRAIN----(disclaimer------the polack brain was not included in any of the studies)

Wrong I know there's racial differences in Amygdala sizes.

and you IMAGINE that's a good thing? -------the Polack amygdala is
responsible alcoholic disinhibition RAGE. -------most prominently
noted in WODKA IMBIBERS

I tend to see race as a bigger factor, than Islam, just Islam pushes the limits of race, towards even worse savagery.

The levels of MAO-A, Thyroid hormones, Serotonin, and Dopamine, clearly differentiate between race, and therefor create different personality "General differences"

As for your typical retardation about Poles, Poland's murder rate is low by EU standards.
 
It is a sick, murderous, misogynistic, pedophilic, slave owning, vile menace to the world. A cancer.

I tend to think it's more about race, than about Islam.

Tatars, Bosniaks, Indonesians, aren't half as bad as the Arabs, because they are very different racially.

I have bad new for you, sobie------NEUROSCIENCE is my thing----careful study
has demonstrated that there are no racial differences in THE BRAIN----(disclaimer------the polack brain was not included in any of the studies)

Wrong I know there's racial differences in Amygdala sizes.

and you IMAGINE that's a good thing? -------the Polack amygdala is
responsible alcoholic disinhibition RAGE. -------most prominently
noted in WODKA IMBIBERS

I tend to see race as a bigger factor, than Islam, just Islam pushes the limits of race, towards even worse savagery.

The levels of MAO-A, Thyroid hormones, Serotonin, and Dopamine, clearly differentiate between race, and therefor create different personality "General differences"

As for your typical retardation about Poles, Poland's murder rate is low by EU standards.
Islam has nothing to do with race. Islam is an ideology.
 
I tend to think it's more about race, than about Islam.

Tatars, Bosniaks, Indonesians, aren't half as bad as the Arabs, because they are very different racially.

I have bad new for you, sobie------NEUROSCIENCE is my thing----careful study
has demonstrated that there are no racial differences in THE BRAIN----(disclaimer------the polack brain was not included in any of the studies)

Wrong I know there's racial differences in Amygdala sizes.

and you IMAGINE that's a good thing? -------the Polack amygdala is
responsible alcoholic disinhibition RAGE. -------most prominently
noted in WODKA IMBIBERS

I tend to see race as a bigger factor, than Islam, just Islam pushes the limits of race, towards even worse savagery.

The levels of MAO-A, Thyroid hormones, Serotonin, and Dopamine, clearly differentiate between race, and therefor create different personality "General differences"

As for your typical retardation about Poles, Poland's murder rate is low by EU standards.
Islam has nothing to do with race. Islam is an ideology.

White & Asiatic Muslims tend to be more mild.
 
It is a sick, murderous, misogynistic, pedophilic, slave owning, vile menace to the world. A cancer.

I tend to think it's more about race, than about Islam.

Tatars, Bosniaks, Indonesians, aren't half as bad as the Arabs, because they are very different racially.

I have bad new for you, sobie------NEUROSCIENCE is my thing----careful study
has demonstrated that there are no racial differences in THE BRAIN----(disclaimer------the polack brain was not included in any of the studies)

Wrong I know there's racial differences in Amygdala sizes.

and you IMAGINE that's a good thing? -------the Polack amygdala is
responsible alcoholic disinhibition RAGE. -------most prominently
noted in WODKA IMBIBERS

I tend to see race as a bigger factor, than Islam, just Islam pushes the limits of race, towards even worse savagery.

The levels of MAO-A, Thyroid hormones, Serotonin, and Dopamine, clearly differentiate between race, and therefor create different personality "General differences"

As for your typical retardation about Poles, Poland's murder rate is low by EU standards.

you got some citations for variations in MAO-A, Thyroid hormones, Serotonin and Dopamine by race and unassociated with such cultural
norms like excessive alcohol consumption?
 
I tend to think it's more about race, than about Islam.

Tatars, Bosniaks, Indonesians, aren't half as bad as the Arabs, because they are very different racially.

I have bad new for you, sobie------NEUROSCIENCE is my thing----careful study
has demonstrated that there are no racial differences in THE BRAIN----(disclaimer------the polack brain was not included in any of the studies)

Wrong I know there's racial differences in Amygdala sizes.

and you IMAGINE that's a good thing? -------the Polack amygdala is
responsible alcoholic disinhibition RAGE. -------most prominently
noted in WODKA IMBIBERS

I tend to see race as a bigger factor, than Islam, just Islam pushes the limits of race, towards even worse savagery.

The levels of MAO-A, Thyroid hormones, Serotonin, and Dopamine, clearly differentiate between race, and therefor create different personality "General differences"

As for your typical retardation about Poles, Poland's murder rate is low by EU standards.

you got some citations for variations in MAO-A, Thyroid hormones, Serotonin and Dopamine by race and unassociated with such cultural
norms like excessive alcohol consumption?

Maybe high Histamine & low GABA causes Alcoholism.

Muslims & Jews are aggressive without Alcoholism.
 

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