This Is Why I Always Helped Illegals Who Came To My Door

I assume you support illegal aliens breaking the law and crossing the border without documentation.

I certainly do. Stupid laws should be disobeyed.

I don't. Its a lot more complicated than that.

But, that's not what this thread is about. When a human being is standing on your front porch, exhausted and near total collapse, you don't close your door.

Over a period of more than 25 years, I helped hundreds and would do it again. There were some I helped every year. They were going to the same crop-picking job every year and knew they could stop at our place for help.
It's a matter of one's humanity. Not helping those in desperate need is displaying a lack of decency and humanity. Wishing death on them simply because they break a crossing the border law indicates the same: a lack of basic human decency and humanity.

On display here is the simplistic worldview of a socialist. Yeah, everyone's unreasonable simply because of a technicality of a border law being broken, kind of like violating a law which mandates that men must wear bow ties on Tuesdays, just a silly, inconsequential law.
 
I assume you support illegal aliens breaking the law and crossing the border without documentation.

I certainly do. Stupid laws should be disobeyed.

I don't. Its a lot more complicated than that.

But, that's not what this thread is about. When a human being is standing on your front porch, exhausted and near total collapse, you don't close your door.

Over a period of more than 25 years, I helped hundreds and would do it again. There were some I helped every year. They were going to the same crop-picking job every year and knew they could stop at our place for help.
It's a matter of one's humanity. Not helping those in desperate need is displaying a lack of decency and humanity. Wishing death on them simply because they break a crossing the border law indicates the same: a lack of basic human decency and humanity.

On display here is the simplistic worldview of a socialist. Yeah, everyone's unreasonable simply because of a technicality of a border law being broken, kind of like violating a law which mandates that men must wear bow ties on Tuesdays, just a silly, inconsequential law.
Murdering people because they cross the border, that's okay with you? You are a sick bastard.
 
I assume you support illegal aliens breaking the law and crossing the border without documentation.

I certainly do. Stupid laws should be disobeyed.

I don't. Its a lot more complicated than that.

But, that's not what this thread is about. When a human being is standing on your front porch, exhausted and near total collapse, you don't close your door.

Over a period of more than 25 years, I helped hundreds and would do it again. There were some I helped every year. They were going to the same crop-picking job every year and knew they could stop at our place for help.
It's a matter of one's humanity. Not helping those in desperate need is displaying a lack of decency and humanity. Wishing death on them simply because they break a crossing the border law indicates the same: a lack of basic human decency and humanity.

On display here is the simplistic worldview of a socialist. Yeah, everyone's unreasonable simply because of a technicality of a border law being broken, kind of like violating a law which mandates that men must wear bow ties on Tuesdays, just a silly, inconsequential law.
Murdering people because they cross the border, that's okay with you? You are a sick bastard.

First people who don't want illegal infiltrators in the country are wishing death upon them and now you've escalated the situation to us murdering the infiltrators.

Notice I pegged you pretty good, someone with a simplistic mindset - you see the world like a cartoon.
 
I certainly do. Stupid laws should be disobeyed.

I don't. Its a lot more complicated than that.

But, that's not what this thread is about. When a human being is standing on your front porch, exhausted and near total collapse, you don't close your door.

Over a period of more than 25 years, I helped hundreds and would do it again. There were some I helped every year. They were going to the same crop-picking job every year and knew they could stop at our place for help.
It's a matter of one's humanity. Not helping those in desperate need is displaying a lack of decency and humanity. Wishing death on them simply because they break a crossing the border law indicates the same: a lack of basic human decency and humanity.

On display here is the simplistic worldview of a socialist. Yeah, everyone's unreasonable simply because of a technicality of a border law being broken, kind of like violating a law which mandates that men must wear bow ties on Tuesdays, just a silly, inconsequential law.
Murdering people because they cross the border, that's okay with you? You are a sick bastard.

First people who don't want illegal infiltrators in the country are wishing death upon them and now you've escalated the situation to us murdering the infiltrators.

Notice I pegged you pretty good, someone with a simplistic mindset - you see the world like a cartoon.
That's a nifty little boomerang you use.
 
I don't. Its a lot more complicated than that.

But, that's not what this thread is about. When a human being is standing on your front porch, exhausted and near total collapse, you don't close your door.

Over a period of more than 25 years, I helped hundreds and would do it again. There were some I helped every year. They were going to the same crop-picking job every year and knew they could stop at our place for help.
It's a matter of one's humanity. Not helping those in desperate need is displaying a lack of decency and humanity. Wishing death on them simply because they break a crossing the border law indicates the same: a lack of basic human decency and humanity.

On display here is the simplistic worldview of a socialist. Yeah, everyone's unreasonable simply because of a technicality of a border law being broken, kind of like violating a law which mandates that men must wear bow ties on Tuesdays, just a silly, inconsequential law.
Murdering people because they cross the border, that's okay with you? You are a sick bastard.

First people who don't want illegal infiltrators in the country are wishing death upon them and now you've escalated the situation to us murdering the infiltrators.

Notice I pegged you pretty good, someone with a simplistic mindset - you see the world like a cartoon.
That's a nifty little boomerang you use.
Quoting your own writing back to you is a pretty effective technique - you do all the discreditation work yourself. Thanks for making my job easy.
 
I assume you support illegal aliens breaking the law and crossing the border without documentation.

I certainly do. Stupid laws should be disobeyed.

I don't. Its a lot more complicated than that.

But, that's not what this thread is about. When a human being is standing on your front porch, exhausted and near total collapse, you don't close your door.

Over a period of more than 25 years, I helped hundreds and would do it again. There were some I helped every year. They were going to the same crop-picking job every year and knew they could stop at our place for help.
It's a matter of one's humanity. Not helping those in desperate need is displaying a lack of decency and humanity. Wishing death on them simply because they break a crossing the border law indicates the same: a lack of basic human decency and humanity.
Those who willingly choose to walk the desert unprepared bring their need upon themselves.

If some illegal immigrant showed up on my doorstep after being foolish enough to walk unprepared through the desert I'd give them some water and call the cops to have them arrested. There is no way I would let them in my home.
 
Luddly,
Some friends of mine belong to an organization that puts water in the desert, and patrols for those that want to turn themselves in, because they are at the end of their rope. I have joined them a couple of times. When you see these folks, sometimes without shoes, dehydrated, hungry, and suffering from expose to the elements, I am at a loss as to how people can lack compassion for them.

I have no compassion for criminals who bring on their own disastrous circumstances. They decided to come here. We owe them nothing. Destroy the water stations. It only encourages them.
Katz, it's no surprise you have no compassion for them. In fact, it would be a surprse if you had any compassion at all for anyone but your own sorry self.

They are criminals. Helping them commit their crimes is not compassion it is foolishness.
 
Luddly,
Some friends of mine belong to an organization that puts water in the desert, and patrols for those that want to turn themselves in, because they are at the end of their rope. I have joined them a couple of times. When you see these folks, sometimes without shoes, dehydrated, hungry, and suffering from expose to the elements, I am at a loss as to how people can lack compassion for them.

I have no compassion for criminals who bring on their own disastrous circumstances. They decided to come here. We owe them nothing. Destroy the water stations. It only encourages them.
Katz, it's no surprise you have no compassion for them. In fact, it would be a surprse if you had any compassion at all for anyone but your own sorry self.

They are criminals. Helping them commit their crimes is not compassion it is foolishness.

the warped minds of a bleeding heart liberal
then they shout it from the roof tops to show just how good and compassionate they can be. Nothing like tooting your own and helping law breakers all at the same time. If they robbed them I bet they'd be tooting a different tune
 
If those who help illegals were prosecuted when the illegals commit more crimes, maybe they wouldn't be stupid enough to "help". When some illegal rapes a four year old, wouldn't it be nice if the person who helped the guy, fed him perhaps, sheltered him were prosecuted as an accomplice. When someone gets their identity stolen, the person who put out the water station should have to pay off the damages that the illegal caused. Then those who think it's compassionate to help might think twice about what they are really doing.
 
If those who help illegals were prosecuted when the illegals commit more crimes, maybe they wouldn't be stupid enough to "help". When some illegal rapes a four year old, wouldn't it be nice if the person who helped the guy, fed him perhaps, sheltered him were prosecuted as an accomplice. When someone gets their identity stolen, the person who put out the water station should have to pay off the damages that the illegal caused. Then those who think it's compassionate to help might think twice about what they are really doing.

That's some sound legal reasoning right there. We should apply it across the board. From now on, if anyone you've ever been kind to commits a crime, you go to jail with them. Maybe that will put a lid on all this 'compassion' bullshit!
 
If those who help illegals were prosecuted when the illegals commit more crimes, maybe they wouldn't be stupid enough to "help". When some illegal rapes a four year old, wouldn't it be nice if the person who helped the guy, fed him perhaps, sheltered him were prosecuted as an accomplice. When someone gets their identity stolen, the person who put out the water station should have to pay off the damages that the illegal caused. Then those who think it's compassionate to help might think twice about what they are really doing.

That's some sound legal reasoning right there. We should apply it across the board. From now on, if anyone you've ever been kind to commits a crime, you go to jail with them. Maybe that will put a lid on all this 'compassion' bullshit!

Certainly if the kindness you are showing helps them commit that crime you should go to jail with them. Mostly that's true. It's called Accessory. The guys now being prosecuted for "helping" the Boston Bombers ARE going to jail for "helping" their friend. The compassion bullshit is what's causing the crime to begin with.
 
If those who help illegals were prosecuted when the illegals commit more crimes, maybe they wouldn't be stupid enough to "help". When some illegal rapes a four year old, wouldn't it be nice if the person who helped the guy, fed him perhaps, sheltered him were prosecuted as an accomplice. When someone gets their identity stolen, the person who put out the water station should have to pay off the damages that the illegal caused. Then those who think it's compassionate to help might think twice about what they are really doing.

That's some sound legal reasoning right there. We should apply it across the board. From now on, if anyone you've ever been kind to commits a crime, you go to jail with them. Maybe that will put a lid on all this 'compassion' bullshit!

Certainly if the kindness you are showing helps them commit that crime you should go to jail with them. Mostly that's true. It's called Accessory. The guys now being prosecuted for "helping" the Boston Bombers ARE going to jail for "helping" their friend. The compassion bullshit is what's causing the crime to begin with.

Nah.. you're equivocating. What you proposed isn't Accessory. Accessory is knowingly helping someone who is planning, or committing a crime. You want to nail people for helping someone who later goes on to commit a crime. I realize it was just an offhand remark, so there's no need to defend it like it was a serious proposal or anything. Unless you want to.
 
I've often wondered why the USA hasn't developed crop picking machines if Americans won't do the crop picking for piddling wages . We've been to the moon , plumbed the ocean depths and we can't make crop picking machines , doesn't make sense to me . Then again I don't mind illegals picking crops if once crops are picked the pickers / illegals are sent home . Think that's how it used to be , something called - Bracero - or some such I think .
Some crops can only be picked by hand...
 
If those who help illegals were prosecuted when the illegals commit more crimes, maybe they wouldn't be stupid enough to "help". When some illegal rapes a four year old, wouldn't it be nice if the person who helped the guy, fed him perhaps, sheltered him were prosecuted as an accomplice. When someone gets their identity stolen, the person who put out the water station should have to pay off the damages that the illegal caused. Then those who think it's compassionate to help might think twice about what they are really doing.

That's some sound legal reasoning right there. We should apply it across the board. From now on, if anyone you've ever been kind to commits a crime, you go to jail with them. Maybe that will put a lid on all this 'compassion' bullshit!

Certainly if the kindness you are showing helps them commit that crime you should go to jail with them. Mostly that's true. It's called Accessory. The guys now being prosecuted for "helping" the Boston Bombers ARE going to jail for "helping" their friend. The compassion bullshit is what's causing the crime to begin with.

Nah.. you're equivocating. What you proposed isn't Accessory. Accessory is knowingly helping someone who is planning, or committing a crime. You want to nail people for helping someone who later goes on to commit a crime. I realize it was just an offhand remark, so there's no need to defend it like it was a serious proposal or anything. Unless you want to.

If you are helping them enter the country illegally they are committing a crime and you are helping them do it. There are associated crimes that enable illegals to stay in this country illegally, you are helping them commit those crimes KNOWING that these crimes are associated with illegal entry.
 
thankyou Moonglow , I believe that might be the case so import pickers , let'em pick and then send the pickers home .
 
If those who help illegals were prosecuted when the illegals commit more crimes, maybe they wouldn't be stupid enough to "help". When some illegal rapes a four year old, wouldn't it be nice if the person who helped the guy, fed him perhaps, sheltered him were prosecuted as an accomplice. When someone gets their identity stolen, the person who put out the water station should have to pay off the damages that the illegal caused. Then those who think it's compassionate to help might think twice about what they are really doing.

That's some sound legal reasoning right there. We should apply it across the board. From now on, if anyone you've ever been kind to commits a crime, you go to jail with them. Maybe that will put a lid on all this 'compassion' bullshit!

Certainly if the kindness you are showing helps them commit that crime you should go to jail with them. Mostly that's true. It's called Accessory. The guys now being prosecuted for "helping" the Boston Bombers ARE going to jail for "helping" their friend. The compassion bullshit is what's causing the crime to begin with.

Nah.. you're equivocating. What you proposed isn't Accessory. Accessory is knowingly helping someone who is planning, or committing a crime. You want to nail people for helping someone who later goes on to commit a crime. I realize it was just an offhand remark, so there's no need to defend it like it was a serious proposal or anything. Unless you want to.

If you are helping them enter the country illegally they are committing a crime and you are helping them do it. There are associated crimes that enable illegals to stay in this country illegally, you are helping them commit those crimes KNOWING that these crimes are associated with illegal entry.

Heh .. ok, I guess you do want to chase this one down.

No, if you help someone stay in the country illegally, you're only an accessory for their crime of being in the country illegally - or any other crimes that they might be planning that you are aware of. You're not culpable for anything and everything they might do afterward. That's moronic on the face of it. By that reasoning the doctor who delivered Charles Manson should have gone to jail.
 
If those who help illegals were prosecuted when the illegals commit more crimes, maybe they wouldn't be stupid enough to "help". When some illegal rapes a four year old, wouldn't it be nice if the person who helped the guy, fed him perhaps, sheltered him were prosecuted as an accomplice. When someone gets their identity stolen, the person who put out the water station should have to pay off the damages that the illegal caused. Then those who think it's compassionate to help might think twice about what they are really doing.

That's some sound legal reasoning right there. We should apply it across the board. From now on, if anyone you've ever been kind to commits a crime, you go to jail with them. Maybe that will put a lid on all this 'compassion' bullshit!

A hell of a lot more sound than the BS you just posted.
Big difference between helping someone you know is committing a crime vs. helping someone who MAY commit a crime at a later date.
I have to believe you realize the difference and are just being argumentative.
If you actually believe what you posted you're a complete moron.
 
I assume you support illegal aliens breaking the law and crossing the border without documentation.

I certainly do. Stupid laws should be disobeyed.

I don't. Its a lot more complicated than that.

But, that's not what this thread is about. When a human being is standing on your front porch, exhausted and near total collapse, you don't close your door.

Over a period of more than 25 years, I helped hundreds and would do it again. There were some I helped every year. They were going to the same crop-picking job every year and knew they could stop at our place for help.

I call BFS. Luddy the liar
 
If those who help illegals were prosecuted when the illegals commit more crimes, maybe they wouldn't be stupid enough to "help". When some illegal rapes a four year old, wouldn't it be nice if the person who helped the guy, fed him perhaps, sheltered him were prosecuted as an accomplice. When someone gets their identity stolen, the person who put out the water station should have to pay off the damages that the illegal caused. Then those who think it's compassionate to help might think twice about what they are really doing.

That's some sound legal reasoning right there. We should apply it across the board. From now on, if anyone you've ever been kind to commits a crime, you go to jail with them. Maybe that will put a lid on all this 'compassion' bullshit!

Certainly if the kindness you are showing helps them commit that crime you should go to jail with them. Mostly that's true. It's called Accessory. The guys now being prosecuted for "helping" the Boston Bombers ARE going to jail for "helping" their friend. The compassion bullshit is what's causing the crime to begin with.

Nah.. you're equivocating. What you proposed isn't Accessory. Accessory is knowingly helping someone who is planning, or committing a crime. You want to nail people for helping someone who later goes on to commit a crime. I realize it was just an offhand remark, so there's no need to defend it like it was a serious proposal or anything. Unless you want to.

If you are helping them enter the country illegally they are committing a crime and you are helping them do it. There are associated crimes that enable illegals to stay in this country illegally, you are helping them commit those crimes KNOWING that these crimes are associated with illegal entry.

Heh .. ok, I guess you do want to chase this one down.

No, if you help someone stay in the country illegally, you're only an accessory for their crime of being in the country illegally - or any other crimes that they might be planning that you are aware of. You're not culpable for anything and everything they might do afterward. That's moronic on the face of it. By that reasoning the doctor who delivered Charles Manson should have gone to jail.

The doctor who delivered a baby shouldn't have gone to jail, but the doctor who treated John Wilkes Booth DID.
 
If those who help illegals were prosecuted when the illegals commit more crimes, maybe they wouldn't be stupid enough to "help". When some illegal rapes a four year old, wouldn't it be nice if the person who helped the guy, fed him perhaps, sheltered him were prosecuted as an accomplice. When someone gets their identity stolen, the person who put out the water station should have to pay off the damages that the illegal caused. Then those who think it's compassionate to help might think twice about what they are really doing.

That's some sound legal reasoning right there. We should apply it across the board. From now on, if anyone you've ever been kind to commits a crime, you go to jail with them. Maybe that will put a lid on all this 'compassion' bullshit!

A hell of a lot more sound than the BS you just posted.
Big difference between helping someone you know is committing a crime vs. helping someone who MAY commit a crime at a later date.
I have to believe you realize the difference and are just being argumentative.
If you actually believe what you posted you're a complete moron.

what are you talking about?
 

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