This is the first time in my 45 years on the planet

[PixieStix]

The rightests on this board are hardly average people, I think.

Average people don't obsess about these issues like most of us (myself included) do.

I'm Talking about Real Life...

I have Heard People Suggesting Armed Revolt...

People I would Never have Expected to Suggest such a thing.



peace...

REALLY????

i havent
not in person
just people online

I do, everyday. I am in contact with a lot of people everyday, unfortunately LOL

I hear it everyday. And much worse. I must say that I too am surprised. I have no reponse to what they say, they are customers and clients. I do not talk about such things on the job. I change the subject very quickly

 

[DiveCon]

I'm Talking about Real Life...

I have Heard People Suggesting Armed Revolt...

People I would Never have Expected to Suggest such a thing.



peace...

REALLY????

i havent
not in person
just people online

I do, everyday. I am in contact with a lot of people everyday, unfortunately LOL

I hear it everyday. And much worse. I must say that I too am surprised. I have no reponse to what they say, they are customers and clients. I do not talk about such things on the job. I change the subject very quickly

yeah, good idea
not wise to mix politics at work
especially not with customers

 

[Yurt]

Not me.

Jefferson himself had a little thing for the blood of tyrants.

didn't he say let the blood flow at the Bastille?

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

i wonder if he would have said that knowing our weaponry today.....

 

[sparky]

Does this freak anyone else out?

yes it does

because there's nothing quite like a mix of a populace who suffers simutianiously from an economic decline and confusion as to why they are.....

 

[bk1983]

The rightests on this board are hardly average people, I think.

Average people don't obsess about these issues like most of us (myself included) do.

I'm Talking about Real Life...

I have Heard People Suggesting Armed Revolt...

People I would Never have Expected to Suggest such a thing.



peace...

REALLY????

i havent
not in person
just people online

Same here, it's all hyperbole as far as I'm concerned.

 

[DiveCon]

I'm Talking about Real Life...

I have Heard People Suggesting Armed Revolt...

People I would Never have Expected to Suggest such a thing.



peace...

REALLY????

i havent
not in person
just people online

Same here, it's all hyperbole as far as I'm concerned.

well, it could have more to do with where we live
its solid blue up here and the only GOP'rs that win are RINO's

 

[bk1983]

REALLY????

i havent
not in person
just people online

Same here, it's all hyperbole as far as I'm concerned.

well, it could have more to do with where we live
its solid blue up here and the only GOP'rs that win are RINO's

Your probably right, Hawaii is about as BLUE as a state can get.

 

[mal]

The rightests on this board are hardly average people, I think.

Average people don't obsess about these issues like most of us (myself included) do.

I'm Talking about Real Life...

I have Heard People Suggesting Armed Revolt...

People I would Never have Expected to Suggest such a thing.



peace...

REALLY????

i havent
not in person
just people online

People I Know, Neighbors and Customers...

It's Concerning...



peace...

 

[Douger]

Hillbilly idiots.
First you need to eliminate the Nazi threat...AKA POlice.
Once that happens one of two things would happen.
A.... They would sick the militaries brainwashed idiots on the civilian population.Think Waco.
B... They would be scared shitless and FINALLY understand that their job is to do what the people want done.

I figure option A is coming to visit you very,very, soon.

 

[chanel]

Maybe it's reverse psychology. The Socialists want to paint anyone who disagrees with the govt. as "right winged extremists" so they are subliminally sending out messages to various whacko groups inciting violence. Maybe it's actually the Left "fanning the flames".

Personally I think it's hyperbole but I do know a lot of people are buying guns. For protection of course.

 

[editec]

Hillbilly idiots.
First you need to eliminate the Nazi threat...AKA POlice.
Once that happens one of two things would happen.
A.... They would sick the militaries brainwashed idiots on the civilian population.Think Waco.
B... They would be scared shitless and FINALLY understand that their job is to do what the people want done.

I figure option A is coming to visit you very,very, soon.

In the very unlikely event that the population took up arms against the FEDS?

They'd be gunned down like cattle by people in US military uniforms.

The only people in this nation with the social structure to ferment an armed revolution are probably those street gangs that TV informs me are so prevelant in our cities.

They're armed, they're not afraid to use those arms, they have a paramilitary structure already in place, they're used to being inffiltrated and dealing with it, and they are already expecting to die or go to prison.

Now which of you right wing lunatics thinks you're likely to join the Crypts or M-13 in order to throw off the yoke of what you think is an oppressive government?

Or maybe you think that your right wing paramilitary brotherhoods are ready willing and able comes the time?

Do you guys think that your local (my guess is completely White) militias aren't already compromised with government finks and operatives?

A little hint boys...the guys telling you most fervorently that its time to take up arms?

They're probably working for the government you so hate.

Yeah, that's right.

Take a tip from an old leftie..never trust people trying to convince you its time for an armed revolution.

Most of them might be sincere, but if they're vocal and they're armed?

That group is more likely compromised than not.

 

[HUGGY]

Hillbilly idiots.
First you need to eliminate the Nazi threat...AKA POlice.
Once that happens one of two things would happen.
A.... They would sick the militaries brainwashed idiots on the civilian population.Think Waco.
B... They would be scared shitless and FINALLY understand that their job is to do what the people want done.

I figure option A is coming to visit you very,very, soon.

One too many bad mangos spanky. Go on some boiled water for a couple of weeks till your brain clears and the shadows are just shadows..

 

[American Horse]

Hillbilly idiots.
First you need to eliminate the Nazi threat...AKA POlice.
Once that happens one of two things would happen.
A.... They would sick the militaries brainwashed idiots on the civilian population.Think Waco.
B... They would be scared shitless and FINALLY understand that their job is to do what the people want done.

I figure option A is coming to visit you very,very, soon.

In the very unlikely event that the population took up arms against the FEDS?

[RE:]They'd be gunned down like cattle by people in US military uniforms.

May I remind you that the government people at Waco were the FBI and the Alcohol-Tobacco-Firearms people, and not the US military? What happened under the watch of Clinton (Reno) would never have happened under Bush (and Ashcroft/Gonzales) The Posse-Comitatis Act prevents the use of US troops on US soil. Any military conflict between citizens and the government would be of a "guerilla" type, and wouldn't be the kind of military action that some here are invisioning. Making the above assumption shows a complete misunderstanding of the US military and it's make-up.

The only people in this nation with the social structure to ferment an armed revolution are probably those street gangs that TV informs me are so prevelant in our cities.

They're armed, they're not afraid to use those arms, they have a paramilitary structure already in place, they're used to being inffiltrated and dealing with it, and they are already expecting to die or go to prison.

Now which of you right wing lunatics thinks you're likely to join the Crypts or M-13 in order to throw off the yoke of what you think is an oppressive government?

As much as the citizenry are aware of the "gangs" they are hated; the US government is not hated, just what it happens to be doing of late that creates so much insecurity for the citizens, causing alarms to go out.

Or maybe you think that your right wing paramilitary brotherhoods are ready willing and able comes the time?

Do you guys think that your local (my guess is completely White) militias aren't already compromised with government finks and operatives?

A little hint boys...the guys telling you most fervorently that its time to take up arms?

They're probably working for the government you so hate.

Yeah, that's right.

Take a tip from an old leftie..never trust people trying to convince you its time for an armed revolution.

Most of them might be sincere, but if they're vocal and they're armed?

That group is more likely compromised than not.

"...so Hate?....armed revolution?" You're wrong in your assumptions right here. None who would want to rebel hate their country, and a rebellion is not a revolution; to start out with, it's love of country in play here, and it's just the beginning by announcing a deep dissatisfaction with what appears to many to be unconstitutional prerogatives taken by the current "regime" never mind the last one. They love their country enough to want to secure it for their children against what appears to be a radical administration and congress who are willing to change it without consideration of the consequences in an ultimate power grab.

"Yeah, that's right...." Here, you may be right; that would follow the Reno scenario, which was a complete lack of understanding of the rogues in the ATF and some of the same types in the FBI, as well as all the Drug task force personnel who saw it as a great training lark, and a chance to make their mark.

 

[William Joyce]

When, in the course of human events, white people get sick of the bullshit, it's time to kick some ass.

,,,, says the cowardly little whining racist who hides behind a fake name and a computer screen...

but i should thank you for proving my point about the big mouth weenies who talk BS.

I haven't noted you offering your real name and contact information...

 

[Caligirl]

That I have actually witnessed people, aside from a few nutjobs, threatening to take up arms against the president.

It's the first time in my life I've ever seen a growing movement of organized protest against the president's policies.

The only thing I can think of that is comparable is perhaps the civil rights movement of the 60s...and even that wasn't directed at the presidency or even the government. And it was notably peaceful.

Does this freak anyone else out?

Nope. We anti-bushites were planning to leave the country in droves in 2004, wanted to seceded, the whole nine yards. I don't think the right is going to do anything that the left didn't do.

But, it might give the right some concern about the things that the left were *very* concerned about when Bush was in office - like the martial law powers that Bush was playing with and plans being put in place to quell civil unrest and etc.

I think the more the two sides can see how similar their feelings are the better.

 

[DiveCon]

That I have actually witnessed people, aside from a few nutjobs, threatening to take up arms against the president.

It's the first time in my life I've ever seen a growing movement of organized protest against the president's policies.

The only thing I can think of that is comparable is perhaps the civil rights movement of the 60s...and even that wasn't directed at the presidency or even the government. And it was notably peaceful.

Does this freak anyone else out?

Nope. We anti-bushites were planning to leave the country in droves in 2004, wanted to seceded, the whole nine yards. I don't think the right is going to do anything that the left didn't do.

But, it might give the right some concern about the things that the left were *very* concerned about when Bush was in office - like the martial law powers that Bush was playing with and plans being put in place to quell civil unrest and etc.

I think the more the two sides can see how similar their feelings are the better.

and now Obama has all those plans in place

 

[Caligirl]

lol

I know. Funny how things work out. It's almost like the two parties are in bed with each other. Can you imagine?

 

[Darkwind]

We have the fact that the Neocons are rather put out about the terminity with which the American Public put them out of office. And the mindset of the Neocon that prefers bullets to ballots, gut reaction to reason. Then there is the fact that this is the first American President that is not lilly white.

The traditional conservative is dismayes about this kind of reaction. The Conservatives on this board, as you can readily see, Allie, are fanning to flames.

Wrong. We're concerned with Obama's grab-n-grow government agenda.

Who the fuck cares that he's black??

It's the latest tactic of the Left. If you don't submit, you're a racist or a Nazi.

It is not that new a tactic.

They have been playing the race card for decades.

 

[HUGGY]

Hillbilly idiots.
First you need to eliminate the Nazi threat...AKA POlice.
Once that happens one of two things would happen.
A.... They would sick the militaries brainwashed idiots on the civilian population.Think Waco.
B... They would be scared shitless and FINALLY understand that their job is to do what the people want done.

I figure option A is coming to visit you very,very, soon.

In the very unlikely event that the population took up arms against the FEDS?

They'd be gunned down like cattle by people in US military uniforms.

The only people in this nation with the social structure to ferment an armed revolution are probably those street gangs that TV informs me are so prevelant in our cities.

They're armed, they're not afraid to use those arms, they have a paramilitary structure already in place, they're used to being inffiltrated and dealing with it, and they are already expecting to die or go to prison.

Now which of you right wing lunatics thinks you're likely to join the Crypts or M-13 in order to throw off the yoke of what you think is an oppressive government?

Or maybe you think that your right wing paramilitary brotherhoods are ready willing and able comes the time?

Do you guys think that your local (my guess is completely White) militias aren't already compromised with government finks and operatives?

A little hint boys...the guys telling you most fervorently that its time to take up arms?

They're probably working for the government you so hate.

Yeah, that's right.

Take a tip from an old leftie..never trust people trying to convince you its time for an armed revolution.

Most of them might be sincere, but if they're vocal and they're armed?

That group is more likely compromised than not.

I'll co-sign the above statement. I was a witness to the 68 "riots" in Seattle and the peace marchers were infiltrated with FBI brick throwers.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

In the very unlikely event that the population took up arms against the FEDS?

They'd be gunned down like cattle by people in US military uniforms.

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Declaration of Orders We Will NOT Obey

Recognizing that we each swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, and affirming that we are guardians of the Republic, of the principles in our Declaration of Independence, and of the rights of our people, we affirm and declare the following:
1. We will NOT obey any order to disarm the American people.
2. We will NOT obey any order to conduct warrantless searches of the American people, their homes, vehicles, papers, or effects -- such as warrantless house-to house searches for weapons or persons.
3. We will NOT obey any order to detain American citizens as “unlawful enemy combatants” or to subject them to trial by military tribunal.
4. We will NOT obey orders to impose martial law or a “state of emergency” on a state, or to enter with force into a state, without the express consent and invitation of that state’s legislature and governor.
5. We will NOT obey orders to invade and subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty and declares the national government to be in violation of the compact by which that state entered the Union.
6. We will NOT obey any order to blockade American cities, thus turning them into giant concentration camps.
7. We will NOT obey any order to force American citizens into any form of detention camps under any pretext.
8. We will NOT obey orders to assist or support the use of any foreign troops on U.S. soil against the American people to “keep the peace” or to “maintain control” during any emergency, or under any other pretext. We will consider such use of foreign troops against our people to be an invasion and an act of war.
9. We will NOT obey any orders to confiscate the property of the American people, including food and other essential supplies, under any emergency pretext whatsoever.
10. We will NOT obey any orders which infringe on the right of the people to free speech, to peaceably assemble, and to petition their government for a redress of grievances.