This Is Great: Trump Demands South Korea Pay 400% More For US Troops

[harmonica]

No dumbass. He wants South Korea to start paying for our continued presence.

Trump is an idiot. He doesn't know anything about South Korea or our presence there.

If you know more, explain why we are providing for their defense?

We are not there for their defense, we are there for ours.

Right, sounds like a modified version of we fight them there so we don't have to fight them here. So more BS

That strategy is one of the things that has allowed us to prosper so much. We did not have to rebuild after a world war or any war for that matter since the end of our own Civil War. To dismiss that shows your ignorance of the topic.

Plus, it is now much less about fighting as it is about influence. Our troops stationed there give us influence over the region, influence that is designed to check the growing influence of China.

.....so the strategy of WASTING BILLIONS$ and losing 50,000 American lives was GOOD???!!!

 

[Harpy Eagle]

less than 30,000 troops and you think this affects the REGION!!!???
..how does this work? please explain

SK is one of the strongest nations in the region, our relationship with them gives us influence over them. Part of that relationship is our troops there, makes stupid demands and we start to lose influence. Pull the troops out and we have even less...and we lose a key strategic location for dealing with China should the need arise.

 

[theHawk]

No dumbass. He wants South Korea to start paying for our continued presence.

Trump is an idiot. He doesn't know anything about South Korea or our presence there.

If you know more, explain why we are providing for their defense?

We are not there for their defense, we are there for ours.

Right, sounds like a modified version of we fight them there so we don't have to fight them here. So more BS

That strategy is one of the things that has allowed us to prosper so much. We did not have to rebuild after a world war or any war for that matter since the end of our own Civil War. To dismiss that shows your ignorance of the topic.

Plus, it is now much less about fighting as it is about influence. Our troops stationed there give us influence over the region, influence that is designed to check the growing influence of China.

Not disputing that we were there to help rebuild and in the end it is prosperous for all. They are no longer a ravaged country that is rebuilding, they are an economic powerhouse now. They can afford to pay their fair share. They can pay their taxes now just like we do for our military protection.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Trump is an idiot. He doesn't know anything about South Korea or our presence there.

If you know more, explain why we are providing for their defense?

We are not there for their defense, we are there for ours.

Right, sounds like a modified version of we fight them there so we don't have to fight them here. So more BS

That strategy is one of the things that has allowed us to prosper so much. We did not have to rebuild after a world war or any war for that matter since the end of our own Civil War. To dismiss that shows your ignorance of the topic.

Plus, it is now much less about fighting as it is about influence. Our troops stationed there give us influence over the region, influence that is designed to check the growing influence of China.

.....so the strategy of WASTING BILLIONS$ and losing 50,000 American lives was GOOD???!!!

Vietnam was a joke, it was purely a political war and we were never allowed to win. It is an example of what happens when politicians run a war.

The strategy of fighting Germany and Japan on other people's lands was damn good. But I guess that is a little to far back for your little mind.

 

[Desperado]

In all honesty, we should remove all these troops and bring them home... Almost 62,000 in Japan, 47,000 in Germany, 28,000 i Korea, 15,000 in Italy and so on and so on.
sure seems like we are playing the world police, something Trump said he would stop.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Trump is an idiot. He doesn't know anything about South Korea or our presence there.

If you know more, explain why we are providing for their defense?

We are not there for their defense, we are there for ours.

Right, sounds like a modified version of we fight them there so we don't have to fight them here. So more BS

That strategy is one of the things that has allowed us to prosper so much. We did not have to rebuild after a world war or any war for that matter since the end of our own Civil War. To dismiss that shows your ignorance of the topic.

Plus, it is now much less about fighting as it is about influence. Our troops stationed there give us influence over the region, influence that is designed to check the growing influence of China.

Not disputing that we were there to help rebuild and in the end it is prosperous for all. They are no longer a ravaged country that is rebuilding, they are an economic powerhouse now. They can afford to pay their fair share. They can pay their taxes now just like we do for our military protection.

They do pay us to be there, the idea they do not is just Trump lying to you followers. They pay about 90% of what it cost to keep our troops there...far more than anyone in Europe pays us.

 

[harmonica]

less than 30,000 troops and you think this affects the REGION!!!???
..how does this work? please explain

SK is one of the strongest nations in the region, our relationship with them gives us influence over them. Part of that relationship is our troops there, makes stupid demands and we start to lose influence. Pull the troops out and we have even less...and we lose a key strategic location for dealing with China should the need arise.

1. and you were in the military??? US troops in SKorea mean NOTHING when '''dealing'' with China!!
2. S Korea is a COMPETITOR with the US in business!! they are not HELPING the US--they are HURTING the US

 

[lennypartiv]

What if they don´t pay up?

Sanctions.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

1. and you were in the military??? US troops in SKorea mean NOTHING when '''dealing'' with China!!
2. S Korea is a COMPETITOR with the US in business!! they are not HELPING the US--they are HURTING the US

1. Yep, 20 years in the Marine Corps including 4 on Okinawa as part of the Marine Air Wing's G3 Future Ops. We wrote the OP Plans and created the TPFDDs for most conceivable scenarios. South Korea's location has such strategic value that just about every plan to deal with China flows through SK.

2. They are a market for us just like we are market for them.

 

[Desperado]

If you know more, explain why we are providing for their defense?

We are not there for their defense, we are there for ours.

Right, sounds like a modified version of we fight them there so we don't have to fight them here. So more BS

That strategy is one of the things that has allowed us to prosper so much. We did not have to rebuild after a world war or any war for that matter since the end of our own Civil War. To dismiss that shows your ignorance of the topic.

Plus, it is now much less about fighting as it is about influence. Our troops stationed there give us influence over the region, influence that is designed to check the growing influence of China.

.....so the strategy of WASTING BILLIONS$ and losing 50,000 American lives was GOOD???!!!

Vietnam was a joke, it was purely a political war and we were never allowed to win. It is an example of what happens when politicians run a war.

The strategy of fighting Germany and Japan on other people's lands was damn good. But I guess that is a little to far back for your little mind.

What war starting with Korea through today was not a political war and we were never allowed to win

 

[harmonica]

1. and you were in the military??? US troops in SKorea mean NOTHING when '''dealing'' with China!!
2. S Korea is a COMPETITOR with the US in business!! they are not HELPING the US--they are HURTING the US

1. Yep, 20 years in the Marine Corps including 4 on Okinawa as part of the Marine Air Wing's G3 Future Ops. We wrote the OP Plans and created the TPFDDs for most conceivable scenarios. South Korea's location has such strategic value that just about every plan to deal with China flows through SK.

2. They are a market for us just like we are market for them.

is the trade deficit worth 50,000 LIVES!!!???..$$$ are more important to you than lives???

 

[Dragonlady]

This is Trump doing what he said he was going to do. It's about time we stopped supporting/protecting parts of the world on our dime.


Trump hikes prices tag for US forces in Korea almost 400% as Seoul fumes, frets - CNNPolitics

In other words - Trump wants U.S. troops out of South Korea so North Korea can invade. Not surprising.

No dumbass. He wants South Korea to start paying for our continued presence.

No. He's been talking about a "united Korea", just like Germany, ever since he became friends with Kim. Who does he think would rule over a united Korea?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

We are not there for their defense, we are there for ours.

Right, sounds like a modified version of we fight them there so we don't have to fight them here. So more BS

That strategy is one of the things that has allowed us to prosper so much. We did not have to rebuild after a world war or any war for that matter since the end of our own Civil War. To dismiss that shows your ignorance of the topic.

Plus, it is now much less about fighting as it is about influence. Our troops stationed there give us influence over the region, influence that is designed to check the growing influence of China.

.....so the strategy of WASTING BILLIONS$ and losing 50,000 American lives was GOOD???!!!

Vietnam was a joke, it was purely a political war and we were never allowed to win. It is an example of what happens when politicians run a war.

The strategy of fighting Germany and Japan on other people's lands was damn good. But I guess that is a little to far back for your little mind.

What war starting with Korea through today was not a political war and we were never allowed to win

Not a one. That is what makes keeping another one from starting so vital.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

is the trade deficit worth 50,000 LIVES!!!???..$$$ are more important to you than lives???

what the fuck are you talking about?

 

[harmonica]

If you know more, explain why we are providing for their defense?

We are not there for their defense, we are there for ours.

Right, sounds like a modified version of we fight them there so we don't have to fight them here. So more BS

That strategy is one of the things that has allowed us to prosper so much. We did not have to rebuild after a world war or any war for that matter since the end of our own Civil War. To dismiss that shows your ignorance of the topic.

Plus, it is now much less about fighting as it is about influence. Our troops stationed there give us influence over the region, influence that is designed to check the growing influence of China.

Not disputing that we were there to help rebuild and in the end it is prosperous for all. They are no longer a ravaged country that is rebuilding, they are an economic powerhouse now. They can afford to pay their fair share. They can pay their taxes now just like we do for our military protection.

They do pay us to be there, the idea they do not is just Trump lying to you followers. They pay about 90% of what it cost to keep our troops there...far more than anyone in Europe pays us.

so--let's add this up:
50,000 American lives---hundreds of thousands wounded
PLUS cost of Korean War
PLUS YEARLY cost of basing troops in SK
PLUS our trade deficit with SK/China
and we STILL have a trade DEFICIT with CHINA

so how are our troops in SK helping the US economically ???!!

 

[harmonica]

We are not there for their defense, we are there for ours.

Right, sounds like a modified version of we fight them there so we don't have to fight them here. So more BS

That strategy is one of the things that has allowed us to prosper so much. We did not have to rebuild after a world war or any war for that matter since the end of our own Civil War. To dismiss that shows your ignorance of the topic.

Plus, it is now much less about fighting as it is about influence. Our troops stationed there give us influence over the region, influence that is designed to check the growing influence of China.

Not disputing that we were there to help rebuild and in the end it is prosperous for all. They are no longer a ravaged country that is rebuilding, they are an economic powerhouse now. They can afford to pay their fair share. They can pay their taxes now just like we do for our military protection.

They do pay us to be there, the idea they do not is just Trump lying to you followers. They pay about 90% of what it cost to keep our troops there...far more than anyone in Europe pays us.

so--let's add this up:
50,000 American lives---hundreds of thousands wounded
PLUS cost of Korean War
PLUS YEARLY cost of basing troops in SK
PLUS our trade deficit with SK/China
and we STILL have a trade DEFICIT with CHINA

so how are our troops in SK helping the US economically ???!!

it's a big MINUS for the US

 

[harmonica]

is the trade deficit worth 50,000 LIVES!!!???..$$$ are more important to you than lives???

what the fuck are you talking about?

and you know about military history??!!
50,000 Americans died in the Korean War

 

[Harpy Eagle]

so--let's add this up:
50,000 American lives---hundreds of thousands wounded
PLUS cost of Korean War
PLUS YEARLY cost of basing troops in SK
PLUS our trade deficit with SK/China
and we STILL have a trade DEFICIT with CHINA

so how are our troops in SK helping the US economically ???!!

what we are doing now has nothing to do with what we did then. When was the last time a US service member was killed in combat in Korea?

There is nothing wrong with having a trade deficit, we all have them in our every day lives and nobody thinks it is the end of the world.

We have trade deficits with those countries because they make things that we the people want to buy, and they can make them cheaper and often better than we can.

So, it helps us economically because I have more money to spend on other things that keep our economy moving since I saved money on things from there.

An example is one of my 3 vehicles is a nice little Kia sedan. When we were looking to replace a car with an small sedan for commuting back and forth to work nothing came close to the deal I got from Kia, which included a 9 year 110,000 mile warranty...bumper to bumper. The money I saved on that went back into the US economy as well. Fast forward to last year and we needed a 3rd car since we were giving our oldest one to my son, we this time bought a Ford since it was the best deal for a larger vehicle to use when traveling as well as back and forth to work.

This is the win for the US, we the consumer have choices, and the more choices the better.

 

[harmonica]

so--let's add this up:
50,000 American lives---hundreds of thousands wounded
PLUS cost of Korean War
PLUS YEARLY cost of basing troops in SK
PLUS our trade deficit with SK/China
and we STILL have a trade DEFICIT with CHINA

so how are our troops in SK helping the US economically ???!!

what we are doing now has nothing to do with what we did then. When was the last time a US service member was killed in combat in Korea?

There is nothing wrong with having a trade deficit, we all have them in our every day lives and nobody thinks it is the end of the world.

We have trade deficits with those countries because they make things that we the people want to buy, and they can make them cheaper and often better than we can.

So, it helps us economically because I have more money to spend on other things that keep our economy moving since I saved money on things from there.

An example is one of my 3 vehicles is a nice little Kia sedan. When we were looking to replace a car with an small sedan for commuting back and forth to work nothing came close to the deal I got from Kia, which included a 9 year 110,000 mile warranty...bumper to bumper. The money I saved on that went back into the US economy as well. Fast forward to last year and we needed a 3rd car since we were giving our oldest one to my son, we this time bought a Ford since it was the best deal for a larger vehicle to use when traveling as well as back and forth to work.

This is the win for the US, we the consumer have choices, and the more choices the better.

so you buy SKorean cars and that helps the US---great logic there

 

[Unkotare]

Talk about missing the point. We do not have a military presence in South Korea or Japan “to protect them.” We have only ever been there to protect our own interests - of course.