Comrade
Senior Member
wade said:Then you are a fascist.
Gadzooks! My cover is blown!
This does not appear to be the case in Vietnam.
Vietnamese vote?
And it certainly had no signs of going that way in Chile.
Chile was a communist state?
Ummm.. 40% was the minimum corporate tax rate. 40% was also about the average personal tax rate, but the rate did go as high as 90% at the top bracket.
Yes, 40% was also about the average personal tax rate. Not communism, is it.
The same can be said of tyrant leaders in control of "democracies". Hitler and Marcos are two examples.
And not true of democracies.
What? Under communism everyone is a member of the proletariate. The system is supposed to be an effective republic, with the collectives voting on issues.
supposed to be
You refer to one example, Kim of NK. You have a double standard. When communism degenerates into authoritarian rule, you still want to call it communism.
Communism is authoritarian rule.
But when democracy degenerates into authoritarian rule, you wish to reclassify it as dictatorship.
I must be crazy!
There are many examples of Democracies, which have reverted to dictatorships. Germany, Italy, the Phillapines, El Salvador, etc...
Because Democracy is BAD!
Today, something like 40% of the UN membership are considered to be failed democracies (from S. America, Africa, and indochina).
Cause Democracy sucks!
You seem to think it is a given that democracy will work in Iraq. Everything in history is against it. Of the 121 nations classified as democracies in the world today - NOT ONE IS ARAB!
Aren't you the closet racist!
Already something around 12,000 Iraqi civilians have been killed in this war as the immeadiate result of allied military action. Fewer would have been killed by a neutron bomb attack. Furthermore, the infrastructure of the nation would have been virtually untouched. Water and power would have continued to flow.
Probably shouldn't drink the water, though, just to be safe.
I do not say we would have know exactly where Saddam was. I say we would have had a very good idea where he would have been - we we would have had a very high chance of getting him by hitting the Baath Party congress while it was in session and Saddams palaces in a simultanous strike. And even if we had somehow failed to get him, without the Baath's or the Republican Gaurd, his power would have been ended.
And without the Iraqi Congress how could Saddam ever survive?
Finally, why the kit gloves? These people allowed a terrorist and harborer of terrorists to rule thier country for decades. Don't you think it is about time that we put the Arab world on notice that to do so is to invite ruin? It is time to start making the Arabs realize that they cannot look the other way while Al-Queda and other terrorists operate in their midst, and that if they do the consequences are grave.
Now listen, I'm going to tell you what me grandaddy told me. There were two Bulls on a hilltop looking down on a bunch of cows. The younger bull said, "Dad, we should run down there and fuck ourselves on of them thar cows". But Daddy bull, see, he was a smart feller. Dadd said to his son, he said, "Son, I've got a better idear. Let's say we walk down this hill and fuck 'em all."
Face it, the Iraqi's are never going to be grateful for their liberation. The truth is the Arabs hated us before, they hate us now, and they will hate us tommarow. The idea that we are going to make friends of the Arabs in our lifetimes is pure fantasy. We need to make them respect and fear us. They think differently than we do, they do not value individual life the way we do. Simply invading and occupying their countries is not going to do the trick - as soon as we are gone they will revert right back to their old ways. They will say what you want to hear to your face, make promises, whatever to appease you, never meaning even one word of it. Only by demonstrating absolute power are we ever going to get them to realize they must change or die. And that is not going to be accomplished using conventional tactics.
Your talking crazy, man. Wade, I think you have the SPACE MADNESS!!!