There’s No Border Emergency

[Vandalshandle]

Apparently, several Trumpettes did not get the memo. Trump said that he has already built the wall, and continues to do so every day. Other than his unhinged CPAC speech, he has dropped the subject, after declaring the emergency, especially since Republicans in the Senate have started switching sides and are going to vote with the democrats on the issue. Trump is following Nixon's example when Nixon declared victory in Vietnam and went home. It is not an issue anymore, and Trump would just as soon that you guys forget about it.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

Correct. There is no emergency on the border. Only a crisis made by the President.

Dumb ass wallists (those who worship the wall) aren't bright enough to see when events are staged to make them react like trained monkeys.

Dumbass is one word and you should know since you are one. Staged like the moon landing? You’re seriously two french fries short of a happy meal

It's not my fault that you are a dumb ass. You still believe in Santa, the Tooth Fairy and Easter Bunny too?

Anybody with an IQ higher than their shoe size would be asking if that many people are coming here under an anti immigrant president (supposedly), why not under the community organizer?

How many is that many? 2/3 still get through and the cartels run them and don't care who the POTUS is. You're seriously stupid.

You are the one who is seriously stupid.

* Americans consume over 80 percent of the world's opioid supply
* We have more people in prisons than any country on the planet
* For every 1 drug addict in a rehab facility there are more than 10 addicts in prison

It's beyond stupid to blame cartels for America's current culture. People cannot sell you what you aren't willing to buy. Your side's idiotic solutions go like this:

+ Build a wall around the southern border
+ Give everyone a National ID Card system that would make Hitler blush
+ Build more jails and prisons
+ Subject all humans to background checks even to exercise their God given unalienable Rights... and viola problem solved

ABSOLUTE FREAKING STUPIDITY

# A wall will not take welfarites off welfare
# A wall will not erase a criminal history
# A wall will not cure drug addiction
# A wall will not incentivize the lazy to go out and get a job
# A wall does not stop foreigners from coming here. It may up the ante, but it does not do one, single solitary thing to rectify the underlying causes of what is wrong in America.

Without the wall, our economic picture has shown that there is NO NEED for one. So, who is doing all the crying?

Those who are whining are those that think the world owes them a living. Those who have made a career bitching about the situation have wasted your lives on the Internet when you could go out and make a good living by learning a trade and DOING something with your lives.

Instead, you have this fascination with little brown people from south of the border when the bigger threat is that half who enter the United States via the proper means and take up chairs in colleges and universities, going on to take quarter of a million a year jobs that some of YOU could be working IF you'd get off your ass and go to work.

This phony and staged flooding of America by foreigners was well planned IIRC. When big stores (mostly Walmarts) were being quietly closed for what the conspiracy theorists thought were going to be detention centers for the right, it was actually a place to put all the foreigners that were going to be brought in for the purposes of selling you the LIE that we were all of a sudden being flooded - and under an anti-immigrant president. Common freaking sense says that if someone wanted to come here, it would have been done when Obama was in office and he would have found a way to welcome them in.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

400k illegals are caught annually and that is only 1/3 as 2/3 they don’t catch. Looks like an emergency to me. But then again I can do basic math.

So that would mean 800K made it through.

Back in 2000 or there about, 1.6 MILLION were caught. Meaning that 3.2 million made it through? The crushing result?

Our GDP has doubled in the last 18 years.
Violent crime is down.
Drug use is on the rise as it is more and more accepted.

Basic math isn’t on your side since no President since 2000 (or before) declared it an emergency. The conditions in the 18 years prove that there wasn’t one.

So because fewer are crossing now it is not an emergency?

Yep.

That is just stupid logic.

No, actually, it’s perfectly logical.

It was an emergency then and it is now as well.

No. No, it wasn’t.

Duh. $22trn in debt don’t need more freeloaders. You’re dumb.

Blaming illegal aliens for economic turmoil is convenient….blaming a specific group is an age old tactic of people who don’t know any better.

The facts are this:

Since 2000 when we did have the 1.6 million arrests (and as you contest, the 3.2 million that got in), our nations’ GDP has doubled.
2000 and 2009 GDP Estimates, Top 30 Economies
5 US GDP Statistics You Need to Know

The Stock Market has doubled.

Family income is up.

Your economic argument is garbage.

Meanwhile, unemployment has dwindled.

—

Why are we $22T in debt?

We spend more on defense than the next highest spending 7 countries combined or something like that. Six of those are allies! And we do this every year. Not smart.

U.S. Defense Spending Compared to Other Countries

It isn’t all defense. Social Security Disability is ridiculous. This isn’t the check you get when you retire after a life of working. These are checks to people who have such disabling items as high blood pressure. In 2017 it was $143 Billion dollars.

Chart Book: Social Security Disability Insurance

Which is actually an improvement. One in four people in one Alabama county were on disability according to one source who did a landmark report on it.

http://apps.npr.org/unfit-for-work/

How silly has it become? You get more money if you’re on disability and you have a child. So there are now over a million kids on SSDI as well.

(same source as above).

And the politics of it are ambiguous but it’s mostly red states by percentage (this could be misleading because a smaller percent of a blue state could be more people than a large percent of a rural state).

View attachment 249260

How much is $143B? Compare it to how much is spent on other programs:
View attachment 249262

The biggest spending are on things we just need the political will to address. We need to raise the retirement age—liberals are out to lunch on this. We need to roll back defense spending one out of every 3 years for the next decade. And yes, we need to raise taxes to get the debt under control.

Idiot. Entitlements are the reason not defense. LOL and entitlements cost more because we have so many more freeloaders here.

The freeloaders are the 1 in 5 Americans (over 20 percent) who are dependent upon the government for their daily bread.

 

[danielpalos]

We should improve the efficiency of our public policies to actually solve, actual economic phenomena.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

400k illegals are caught annually and that is only 1/3 as 2/3 they don’t catch. Looks like an emergency to me. But then again I can do basic math.

So that would mean 800K made it through.

Back in 2000 or there about, 1.6 MILLION were caught. Meaning that 3.2 million made it through? The crushing result?

Our GDP has doubled in the last 18 years.
Violent crime is down.
Drug use is on the rise as it is more and more accepted.

Basic math isn’t on your side since no President since 2000 (or before) declared it an emergency. The conditions in the 18 years prove that there wasn’t one.

So because fewer are crossing now it is not an emergency?

Yep.

That is just stupid logic.

No, actually, it’s perfectly logical.

It was an emergency then and it is now as well.

No. No, it wasn’t.

Duh. $22trn in debt don’t need more freeloaders. You’re dumb.

Blaming illegal aliens for economic turmoil is convenient….blaming a specific group is an age old tactic of people who don’t know any better.

The facts are this:

Since 2000 when we did have the 1.6 million arrests (and as you contest, the 3.2 million that got in), our nations’ GDP has doubled.
2000 and 2009 GDP Estimates, Top 30 Economies
5 US GDP Statistics You Need to Know

The Stock Market has doubled.

Family income is up.

Your economic argument is garbage.

Meanwhile, unemployment has dwindled.

—

Why are we $22T in debt?

We spend more on defense than the next highest spending 7 countries combined or something like that. Six of those are allies! And we do this every year. Not smart.

U.S. Defense Spending Compared to Other Countries

It isn’t all defense. Social Security Disability is ridiculous. This isn’t the check you get when you retire after a life of working. These are checks to people who have such disabling items as high blood pressure. In 2017 it was $143 Billion dollars.

Chart Book: Social Security Disability Insurance

Which is actually an improvement. One in four people in one Alabama county were on disability according to one source who did a landmark report on it.

http://apps.npr.org/unfit-for-work/

How silly has it become? You get more money if you’re on disability and you have a child. So there are now over a million kids on SSDI as well.

(same source as above).

And the politics of it are ambiguous but it’s mostly red states by percentage (this could be misleading because a smaller percent of a blue state could be more people than a large percent of a rural state).

View attachment 249260

How much is $143B? Compare it to how much is spent on other programs:
View attachment 249262

The biggest spending are on things we just need the political will to address. We need to raise the retirement age—liberals are out to lunch on this. We need to roll back defense spending one out of every 3 years for the next decade. And yes, we need to raise taxes to get the debt under control.

Idiot. Entitlements are the reason not defense. LOL and entitlements cost more because we have so many more freeloaders here.

The freeloaders are the 1 in 5 Americans (over 20 percent) who are dependent upon the government for their daily bread.

But they are Americans and we should help them. No need to help illegals.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Correct. There is no emergency on the border. Only a crisis made by the President.

Dumb ass wallists (those who worship the wall) aren't bright enough to see when events are staged to make them react like trained monkeys.

Dumbass is one word and you should know since you are one. Staged like the moon landing? You’re seriously two french fries short of a happy meal

It's not my fault that you are a dumb ass. You still believe in Santa, the Tooth Fairy and Easter Bunny too?

Anybody with an IQ higher than their shoe size would be asking if that many people are coming here under an anti immigrant president (supposedly), why not under the community organizer?

How many is that many? 2/3 still get through and the cartels run them and don't care who the POTUS is. You're seriously stupid.

You are the one who is seriously stupid.

* Americans consume over 80 percent of the world's opioid supply
* We have more people in prisons than any country on the planet
* For every 1 drug addict in a rehab facility there are more than 10 addicts in prison

It's beyond stupid to blame cartels for America's current culture. People cannot sell you what you aren't willing to buy. Your side's idiotic solutions go like this:

+ Build a wall around the southern border
+ Give everyone a National ID Card system that would make Hitler blush
+ Build more jails and prisons
+ Subject all humans to background checks even to exercise their God given unalienable Rights... and viola problem solved

ABSOLUTE FREAKING STUPIDITY

# A wall will not take welfarites off welfare
# A wall will not erase a criminal history
# A wall will not cure drug addiction
# A wall will not incentivize the lazy to go out and get a job
# A wall does not stop foreigners from coming here. It may up the ante, but it does not do one, single solitary thing to rectify the underlying causes of what is wrong in America.

Without the wall, our economic picture has shown that there is NO NEED for one. So, who is doing all the crying?

Those who are whining are those that think the world owes them a living. Those who have made a career bitching about the situation have wasted your lives on the Internet when you could go out and make a good living by learning a trade and DOING something with your lives.

Instead, you have this fascination with little brown people from south of the border when the bigger threat is that half who enter the United States via the proper means and take up chairs in colleges and universities, going on to take quarter of a million a year jobs that some of YOU could be working IF you'd get off your ass and go to work.

This phony and staged flooding of America by foreigners was well planned IIRC. When big stores (mostly Walmarts) were being quietly closed for what the conspiracy theorists thought were going to be detention centers for the right, it was actually a place to put all the foreigners that were going to be brought in for the purposes of selling you the LIE that we were all of a sudden being flooded - and under an anti-immigrant president. Common freaking sense says that if someone wanted to come here, it would have been done when Obama was in office and he would have found a way to welcome them in.

Border Agents want the wall you are not the expert. They are. Seems simple enough for even a dumbass like you to understand.

 

[candycorn]

Border agents seized nearly 10,300 pounds of meth last year in between sw ports (over 18 million doses). How much wasn’t caught? And I don’t have figures for other drugs, besides marijuana, which is thousands of pounds weekly. They have stated the large groups crossing at a time are being used to distract while the smugglers run drugs between ports.
Convicted child molesters and sex offenders are being caught almost daily crossing between ports of entry. Multiple violent ms-13 are being caught weekly coming in between ports of entry. Convicted violent criminals are being caught weekly, almost daily, coming in between ports of entry.
How many are slipping through?
These are just some since Mar 1 of this year-
Media Releases | Page 2 | U.S. Customs and Border Protection
Release Date:
March 1, 2019
EDINBURG, Texas – U.S. Border Patrol agents in the Rio Grande Valley arrested two illegal aliens with extensive criminal histories in two separate incidents.

On Monday, Rio Grande City agents working near Roma, Texas, arrested a Salvadoran man after he entered the United States illegally. Record checks revealed he is a Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13) gang member with an extensive criminal history in the state of New York to include resisting arrest and criminal possession of weapon with intent to use. Additionally, his record checks revealed a prior immigration deportation.

On Thursday, agents working near Weslaco, Texas, arrested an Ecuadoran man whose record checks revealed an arrest and an outstanding warrant from the Anoka, Minnesota County Sheriff’s Office for 3rd degree criminal sexual conduct.

Release Date:
March 7, 2019
TUCSON, Ariz. – Nogales Station Border Patrol agents apprehended a previously deported Mexican national with a violent criminal history which includes sexual assault, after he entered the U.S. illegally Wednesday evening in Nogales.

During processing, agents conducting a records check on 37-year-old Rene Muñoz Renteria discovered his extensive criminal history includes a 2003 conviction for attempted sexual assault in Phoenix, for which he served five years in prison. Muñoz also has convictions for kidnapping and possession of fraudulent documents.
..........

. In just a few hours the total number taken into custody exceeded 500. An unaccompanied 2-year-old child was also found among one of the groups. The U. S. Border Patrol is currently working with international and domestic agencies in order to locate the parent(s).



While dealing with this influx of illegal aliens Border Patrol Agents also arrested two convicted sex offenders attempting to enter illegally while the agents were preoccupied with the large groups. Both sex offenders were arrested in different groups attempting to enter the United States illegally evading Border Patrol agents. Both subjects had been convicted of their sex offenses and had served time in jail before being deported from the United States.
.......

Agents in far-east El Paso County also arrested a group of six in which a subject, 28-year-old U.S. citizen, self-proclaimed prison gang member, was found to have an outstanding federal warrant for escape. In addition, the subject has a lengthy criminal record. The subject was remanded to the custody to the U.S. Marshals Service. The other five aliens are currently being processed accordingly.
.......

Release Date:
March 6, 2019
EDINBURG, Texas – U.S. Border Patrol agents in the Rio Grande Valley arrested three sex offenders and a member of a notorious gang.

On Monday, McAllen agents working near McAllen, Texas, arrested a Mexican national whose record checks revealed a prior arrest in Pharr, Texas, for Aggravated sexual assault. The man received 10 years probation.

On Tuesday, Weslaco agents responded to a call for assistance from the San Juan Police Department (SJPD). Upon arrival, agents interviewed a subject detained by (SJPD) and determined the Mexican national to be in the country illegally. During processing, record checks revealed an arrest by the Hidalgo County Sheriff’s Office for sexual assault of a child.

That same day, McAllen agents working near Hidalgo, Texas, arrested a Salvadoran national after he entered the United States illegally. During processing, agents observed multiple tattoos linking him to the Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13) gang. Additional record checks confirmed the man is a member of the dangerous gang.

On Wednesday, Kingsville agents working at the checkpoint arrested a U.S. citizen after a failed human smuggling attempt. Record checks revealed an arrest in Houston, Texas, for aggravated sexual assault of a child. Additionally, record checks revealed an extensive criminal history that includes unlawful carrying of a firearm, burglary and evading arrest.
......
Border Patrol Agent Assaulted in Calexico
Tuesday, March 5, 2019 | Local Media Release
CALEXICO, Calif. – A U.S. Border Patrol agent assigned to the Calexico Border Patrol station was assaulted while patrolling near the border fence, Monday morning. The incident occurred at approximately 8:16 a.m., near the intersection of 1st. Street
.....

Border Patrol Seizes over $1.5M worth of Marijuana in the Rio Grande Valley
Monday, March 4, 2019 | Local Media Release
EDINBURG, Texas – U.S. Border Patrol agents disrupted multiple smuggling attempts that resulted in the seizure of over 1,900 pounds of narcotics. On Thursday, Rio Grande City agents working near Rio Grande City, Texas, observed multiple subjects.
......
USBP Agents Arrest Previously Removed Rapist
Friday, March 1, 2019 | Local Media Release
TUCSON, Ariz. – Tucson Sector Border Patrol Agents apprehended a previously deported Mexican national with a violent criminal history after he entered the U.S. illegally Thursday morning east of Nogales. During processing, agents conducting a.......
....

Release Date:
March 1, 2019
LAREDO, Texas – Laredo Sector Border Patrol agents on Tuesday apprehended several subjects who claimed to have been threatened and held against their will prior to entering the United States.

The incident began on February 26 around 10:00 a.m., when the first subject encountered, a male Honduran national, told the apprehending agents that while traveling through Mexico last week, he and several other individuals had been forced off a bus by suspected cartel members and taken to an unknown location. The Honduran subject claimed he and approximately 200 other individuals were held at the location against their will by armed men who were attempting to extort additional money from them to cross into the U.S. illegally. He said he was held for about a week before eventually escaping and crossing the Rio Grande by himself.

Later that same day, agents apprehended an additional 12 illegal aliens near the same approximate area. One of the subjects in that group, an Ecuadoran national, corroborated the story of aliens being held against their will, and said the suspected cartel members had begun moving the other aliens to a different location when they discovered some of them had escaped.

All of the aliens apprehended appeared to be in good health and did not require any medical attention.

“Human smugglers and traffickers view these people as commodities, a money-making opportunity, and nothing more,” said Laredo Sector Chief Patrol Agent Felix Chavez. “They’ll stop at nothing to maximize their profit, casually putting the lives of these individuals at risk, with no regard for their well-being. And while the U.S. Border Patrol will continue warning people about the dangers of crossing the border illegally, we will also do everything in our power to find these criminal smugglers and bring them to justice.”
.....
National Guard Helps Yuma Agents Apprehend Two Criminal Aliens
Friday, March 1, 2019 | Local Media Release
YUMA, Ariz. – Yuma Station agents arrested two criminal illegal aliens within five hours after they illegally entered the United States on Tuesday and Wednesday. National Guard members monitoractivity along the Mexican borderTuesday evening, agents...
Read More
Rio Grande Valley Border Patrol Arrest Two Violent Criminals
Friday, March 1, 2019 | Local Media Release
EDINBURG, Texas – U.S. Border Patrol agents in the Rio Grande Valley arrested two illegal aliens with extensive criminal histories in two separate incidents. On Monday, Rio Grande City agents working near Roma, Texas, arrested a Salvadoran man after..

400k illegals are caught annually and that is only 1/3 as 2/3 they don’t catch. Looks like an emergency to me. But then again I can do basic math.

So that would mean 800K made it through.

Back in 2000 or there about, 1.6 MILLION were caught. Meaning that 3.2 million made it through? The crushing result?

Our GDP has doubled in the last 18 years.
Violent crime is down.
Drug use is on the rise as it is more and more accepted.

Basic math isn’t on your side since no President since 2000 (or before) declared it an emergency. The conditions in the 18 years prove that there wasn’t one.

Meanwhile violent crime is decreasing

 

[candycorn]

Correct. There is no emergency on the border. Only a crisis made by the President.

Dumb ass wallists (those who worship the wall) aren't bright enough to see when events are staged to make them react like trained monkeys.

Dumbass is one word and you should know since you are one. Staged like the moon landing? You’re seriously two french fries short of a happy meal

It's not my fault that you are a dumb ass. You still believe in Santa, the Tooth Fairy and Easter Bunny too?

Anybody with an IQ higher than their shoe size would be asking if that many people are coming here under an anti immigrant president (supposedly), why not under the community organizer?

How many is that many? 2/3 still get through and the cartels run them and don't care who the POTUS is. You're seriously stupid.

You are the one who is seriously stupid.

* Americans consume over 80 percent of the world's opioid supply
* We have more people in prisons than any country on the planet
* For every 1 drug addict in a rehab facility there are more than 10 addicts in prison

It's beyond stupid to blame cartels for America's current culture. People cannot sell you what you aren't willing to buy. Your side's idiotic solutions go like this:

+ Build a wall around the southern border
+ Give everyone a National ID Card system that would make Hitler blush
+ Build more jails and prisons
+ Subject all humans to background checks even to exercise their God given unalienable Rights... and viola problem solved

ABSOLUTE FREAKING STUPIDITY

# A wall will not take welfarites off welfare
# A wall will not erase a criminal history
# A wall will not cure drug addiction
# A wall will not incentivize the lazy to go out and get a job
# A wall does not stop foreigners from coming here. It may up the ante, but it does not do one, single solitary thing to rectify the underlying causes of what is wrong in America.

Without the wall, our economic picture has shown that there is NO NEED for one. So, who is doing all the crying?

Those who are whining are those that think the world owes them a living. Those who have made a career bitching about the situation have wasted your lives on the Internet when you could go out and make a good living by learning a trade and DOING something with your lives.

Instead, you have this fascination with little brown people from south of the border when the bigger threat is that half who enter the United States via the proper means and take up chairs in colleges and universities, going on to take quarter of a million a year jobs that some of YOU could be working IF you'd get off your ass and go to work.

This phony and staged flooding of America by foreigners was well planned IIRC. When big stores (mostly Walmarts) were being quietly closed for what the conspiracy theorists thought were going to be detention centers for the right, it was actually a place to put all the foreigners that were going to be brought in for the purposes of selling you the LIE that we were all of a sudden being flooded - and under an anti-immigrant president. Common freaking sense says that if someone wanted to come here, it would have been done when Obama was in office and he would have found a way to welcome them in.

It’s from the same wisdom that goes...

“I hate abortion so much, I will make sure more women get pregnant”

 

[feduptaxpayer]

It’s a 5 minute video that shows the truth of what is going on around our southern border. There are hundreds of miles wide open without even a measly barbed wire fence.

Douglas Coleman, Phoenix division drug enforcement special agent said, “We every day stare at the biggest, most violent and nastiest organization, the Sinaloa cartel.”

While on the frontline of the border security battle, sheriffs like Lamb make one thing clear: This border is a humanitarian crisis intertwined with the cartel exploiting people on a daily basis. The amount of arrests him and his team make are proof that a border crisis exists.

“These are human beings that are being trafficked. They’re being exploded by the cartel, and that’s the message we are trying to send to the American public,” said Lamb.

Much more @ https://www.aim.org/aim-investigates/arizonas-border-crisis-The great “stimulus” heist:undocumented-immigrants-cartel-activity-in-pinal-county-arizona/

Not much one can do when the democrats want these criminal illegals to come on in for future voters. And some republicans want them to come on in because they can make use of their cheap labor. Trump is getting screwed by both sides. Trump is going to have a rough time trying to get his wall built and finished. Why are there so many foolish and stunned Americans who want the border to be wide open for all to enter freely? Do they not see that all this criminality is costing them hundreds of billions of tax dollars every year. What makes some people so gawd dam stupid is beyond me. FOX news is the only American news outlet that tells the facts as they are otherwise none of the American people would ever hear about all of this criminal illegality going on at the border. It's bloody sad indeed.

 

[danielpalos]

It’s a 5 minute video that shows the truth of what is going on around our southern border. There are hundreds of miles wide open without even a measly barbed wire fence.

Douglas Coleman, Phoenix division drug enforcement special agent said, “We every day stare at the biggest, most violent and nastiest organization, the Sinaloa cartel.”

While on the frontline of the border security battle, sheriffs like Lamb make one thing clear: This border is a humanitarian crisis intertwined with the cartel exploiting people on a daily basis. The amount of arrests him and his team make are proof that a border crisis exists.

“These are human beings that are being trafficked. They’re being exploded by the cartel, and that’s the message we are trying to send to the American public,” said Lamb.

Much more @ https://www.aim.org/aim-investigates/arizonas-border-crisis-The great “stimulus” heist:undocumented-immigrants-cartel-activity-in-pinal-county-arizona/

Not much one can do when the democrats want these criminal illegals to come on in for future voters. And some republicans want them to come on in because they can make use of their cheap labor. Trump is getting screwed by both sides. Trump is going to have a rough time trying to get his wall built and finished. Why are there so many foolish and stunned Americans who want the border to be wide open for all to enter freely? Do they not see that all this criminality is costing them hundreds of billions of tax dollars every year. What makes some people so gawd dam stupid is beyond me. FOX news is the only American news outlet that tells the facts as they are otherwise none of the American people would ever hear about all of this criminal illegality going on at the border. It's bloody sad indeed.

There is no immigration clause in our federal Constitution. Only lousy capitalists lose money with a welfare clause General, and Commerce Clause, and a naturalization clause; we should be upgrading Ellis Island and surrounding infrastructure.

 

[feduptaxpayer]

Correct. There is no emergency on the border. Only a crisis made by the President.

Dumb ass wallists (those who worship the wall) aren't bright enough to see when events are staged to make them react like trained monkeys.

Dumbass is one word and you should know since you are one. Staged like the moon landing? You’re seriously two french fries short of a happy meal

Dumbocrat lieberals are also two bricks shy a load. Two sandwiches shy a picnic. I could go on and on but what is the point. When you are dealing with stupid lieberals who think that hundreds of thousands of criminal illegals that are crossing the border every year is not a crisis is way out in leftist lieberal field. The crisis has been made and allowed to continue because there was no one like Trump trying to do something really serious about it. These lieberals are in serious need of mental help. When hundreds of thousands of criminal illegals are entering their country every year it is a crisis. The border patrol is not trying to spread bull chit. It is the leftist lieberal fools like candy dandy. Is those suckers that candy dandy keeps sucking on have pot coating the surface? It sure looks like it to me.

I will bet that none of these pro criminal illegals will never take one of those criminals into their homes. They like to talk the talk but won't do the walk. Dumbass lieberals.

 

[feduptaxpayer]

400k illegals are caught annually and that is only 1/3 as 2/3 they don’t catch. Looks like an emergency to me. But then again I can do basic math.

So that would mean 800K made it through.

Back in 2000 or there about, 1.6 MILLION were caught. Meaning that 3.2 million made it through? The crushing result?

Our GDP has doubled in the last 18 years.
Violent crime is down.
Drug use is on the rise as it is more and more accepted.

Basic math isn’t on your side since no President since 2000 (or before) declared it an emergency. The conditions in the 18 years prove that there wasn’t one.

Your problem is that you listen too much to CNN and MSNBC. Try listening to FOX news for a change and get the real side of story about the crisis on the border. What is making people like you so dumb? You must be one of those Maxine Waters lovers, uhmm?

 

[feduptaxpayer]

It’s a 5 minute video that shows the truth of what is going on around our southern border. There are hundreds of miles wide open without even a measly barbed wire fence.

Douglas Coleman, Phoenix division drug enforcement special agent said, “We every day stare at the biggest, most violent and nastiest organization, the Sinaloa cartel.”

While on the frontline of the border security battle, sheriffs like Lamb make one thing clear: This border is a humanitarian crisis intertwined with the cartel exploiting people on a daily basis. The amount of arrests him and his team make are proof that a border crisis exists.

“These are human beings that are being trafficked. They’re being exploded by the cartel, and that’s the message we are trying to send to the American public,” said Lamb.

Much more @ https://www.aim.org/aim-investigates/arizonas-border-crisis-The great “stimulus” heist:undocumented-immigrants-cartel-activity-in-pinal-county-arizona/

Not much one can do when the democrats want these criminal illegals to come on in for future voters. And some republicans want them to come on in because they can make use of their cheap labor. Trump is getting screwed by both sides. Trump is going to have a rough time trying to get his wall built and finished. Why are there so many foolish and stunned Americans who want the border to be wide open for all to enter freely? Do they not see that all this criminality is costing them hundreds of billions of tax dollars every year. What makes some people so gawd dam stupid is beyond me. FOX news is the only American news outlet that tells the facts as they are otherwise none of the American people would ever hear about all of this criminal illegality going on at the border. It's bloody sad indeed.

There is no immigration clause in our federal Constitution. Only lousy capitalists lose money with a welfare clause General, and Commerce Clause, and a naturalization clause; we should be upgrading Ellis Island and surrounding infrastructure.

America needs to get rid of their asylum laws. That should solve the immigration crisis problem at the border once and for all. Boot the criminal illegals back into Mexico where they belong. The days of compassion must come to an end or America will be destroyed by the millions third world illegals out there that want to come to America. America is full. No need to apply anymore. Enough already. It is time for some tough love. Time for a moratorium on immigration. Works for me.

 

[danielpalos]

It’s a 5 minute video that shows the truth of what is going on around our southern border. There are hundreds of miles wide open without even a measly barbed wire fence.

Douglas Coleman, Phoenix division drug enforcement special agent said, “We every day stare at the biggest, most violent and nastiest organization, the Sinaloa cartel.”

While on the frontline of the border security battle, sheriffs like Lamb make one thing clear: This border is a humanitarian crisis intertwined with the cartel exploiting people on a daily basis. The amount of arrests him and his team make are proof that a border crisis exists.

“These are human beings that are being trafficked. They’re being exploded by the cartel, and that’s the message we are trying to send to the American public,” said Lamb.

Much more @ https://www.aim.org/aim-investigates/arizonas-border-crisis-The great “stimulus” heist:undocumented-immigrants-cartel-activity-in-pinal-county-arizona/

Not much one can do when the democrats want these criminal illegals to come on in for future voters. And some republicans want them to come on in because they can make use of their cheap labor. Trump is getting screwed by both sides. Trump is going to have a rough time trying to get his wall built and finished. Why are there so many foolish and stunned Americans who want the border to be wide open for all to enter freely? Do they not see that all this criminality is costing them hundreds of billions of tax dollars every year. What makes some people so gawd dam stupid is beyond me. FOX news is the only American news outlet that tells the facts as they are otherwise none of the American people would ever hear about all of this criminal illegality going on at the border. It's bloody sad indeed.

There is no immigration clause in our federal Constitution. Only lousy capitalists lose money with a welfare clause General, and Commerce Clause, and a naturalization clause; we should be upgrading Ellis Island and surrounding infrastructure.

America needs to get rid of their asylum laws. That should solve the immigration crisis problem at the border once and for all. Boot the criminal illegals back into Mexico where they belong. The days of compassion must come to an end or America will be destroyed by the millions third world illegals out there that want to come to America. America is full. No need to apply anymore. Enough already. It is time for some tough love. Time for a moratorium on immigration. Works for me.

why in the world would we want to do that?

Nobody takes the right wing seriously about the economics or the law, Constitutional or otherwise.

We subscribe to capitalism not socialism on a national basis.

We should make money not just lose money on public policies and border policy in particular.

 

[candycorn]

400k illegals are caught annually and that is only 1/3 as 2/3 they don’t catch. Looks like an emergency to me. But then again I can do basic math.

So that would mean 800K made it through.

Back in 2000 or there about, 1.6 MILLION were caught. Meaning that 3.2 million made it through? The crushing result?

Our GDP has doubled in the last 18 years.
Violent crime is down.
Drug use is on the rise as it is more and more accepted.

Basic math isn’t on your side since no President since 2000 (or before) declared it an emergency. The conditions in the 18 years prove that there wasn’t one.

Your problem is that you listen too much to CNN and MSNBC. Try listening to FOX news for a change and get the real side of story about the crisis on the border. What is making people like you so dumb? You must be one of those Maxine Waters lovers, uhmm?

Central casting is busy today.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

So that would mean 800K made it through.

Back in 2000 or there about, 1.6 MILLION were caught. Meaning that 3.2 million made it through? The crushing result?

Our GDP has doubled in the last 18 years.
Violent crime is down.
Drug use is on the rise as it is more and more accepted.

Basic math isn’t on your side since no President since 2000 (or before) declared it an emergency. The conditions in the 18 years prove that there wasn’t one.

So because fewer are crossing now it is not an emergency?

Yep.

That is just stupid logic.

No, actually, it’s perfectly logical.

It was an emergency then and it is now as well.

No. No, it wasn’t.

Duh. $22trn in debt don’t need more freeloaders. You’re dumb.

Blaming illegal aliens for economic turmoil is convenient….blaming a specific group is an age old tactic of people who don’t know any better.

The facts are this:

Since 2000 when we did have the 1.6 million arrests (and as you contest, the 3.2 million that got in), our nations’ GDP has doubled.
2000 and 2009 GDP Estimates, Top 30 Economies
5 US GDP Statistics You Need to Know

The Stock Market has doubled.

Family income is up.

Your economic argument is garbage.

Meanwhile, unemployment has dwindled.

—

Why are we $22T in debt?

We spend more on defense than the next highest spending 7 countries combined or something like that. Six of those are allies! And we do this every year. Not smart.

U.S. Defense Spending Compared to Other Countries

It isn’t all defense. Social Security Disability is ridiculous. This isn’t the check you get when you retire after a life of working. These are checks to people who have such disabling items as high blood pressure. In 2017 it was $143 Billion dollars.

Chart Book: Social Security Disability Insurance

Which is actually an improvement. One in four people in one Alabama county were on disability according to one source who did a landmark report on it.

http://apps.npr.org/unfit-for-work/

How silly has it become? You get more money if you’re on disability and you have a child. So there are now over a million kids on SSDI as well.

(same source as above).

And the politics of it are ambiguous but it’s mostly red states by percentage (this could be misleading because a smaller percent of a blue state could be more people than a large percent of a rural state).

View attachment 249260

How much is $143B? Compare it to how much is spent on other programs:
View attachment 249262

The biggest spending are on things we just need the political will to address. We need to raise the retirement age—liberals are out to lunch on this. We need to roll back defense spending one out of every 3 years for the next decade. And yes, we need to raise taxes to get the debt under control.

Idiot. Entitlements are the reason not defense. LOL and entitlements cost more because we have so many more freeloaders here.

The freeloaders are the 1 in 5 Americans (over 20 percent) who are dependent upon the government for their daily bread.

But they are Americans and we should help them. No need to help illegals.

Yeah, if you helped the Americans instead of harming them with idiotic policies, you wouldn't have any of those so - called "illegals."

 

[Porter Rockwell]

Dumb ass wallists (those who worship the wall) aren't bright enough to see when events are staged to make them react like trained monkeys.

Dumbass is one word and you should know since you are one. Staged like the moon landing? You’re seriously two french fries short of a happy meal

It's not my fault that you are a dumb ass. You still believe in Santa, the Tooth Fairy and Easter Bunny too?

Anybody with an IQ higher than their shoe size would be asking if that many people are coming here under an anti immigrant president (supposedly), why not under the community organizer?

How many is that many? 2/3 still get through and the cartels run them and don't care who the POTUS is. You're seriously stupid.

You are the one who is seriously stupid.

* Americans consume over 80 percent of the world's opioid supply
* We have more people in prisons than any country on the planet
* For every 1 drug addict in a rehab facility there are more than 10 addicts in prison

It's beyond stupid to blame cartels for America's current culture. People cannot sell you what you aren't willing to buy. Your side's idiotic solutions go like this:

+ Build a wall around the southern border
+ Give everyone a National ID Card system that would make Hitler blush
+ Build more jails and prisons
+ Subject all humans to background checks even to exercise their God given unalienable Rights... and viola problem solved

ABSOLUTE FREAKING STUPIDITY

# A wall will not take welfarites off welfare
# A wall will not erase a criminal history
# A wall will not cure drug addiction
# A wall will not incentivize the lazy to go out and get a job
# A wall does not stop foreigners from coming here. It may up the ante, but it does not do one, single solitary thing to rectify the underlying causes of what is wrong in America.

Without the wall, our economic picture has shown that there is NO NEED for one. So, who is doing all the crying?

Those who are whining are those that think the world owes them a living. Those who have made a career bitching about the situation have wasted your lives on the Internet when you could go out and make a good living by learning a trade and DOING something with your lives.

Instead, you have this fascination with little brown people from south of the border when the bigger threat is that half who enter the United States via the proper means and take up chairs in colleges and universities, going on to take quarter of a million a year jobs that some of YOU could be working IF you'd get off your ass and go to work.

This phony and staged flooding of America by foreigners was well planned IIRC. When big stores (mostly Walmarts) were being quietly closed for what the conspiracy theorists thought were going to be detention centers for the right, it was actually a place to put all the foreigners that were going to be brought in for the purposes of selling you the LIE that we were all of a sudden being flooded - and under an anti-immigrant president. Common freaking sense says that if someone wanted to come here, it would have been done when Obama was in office and he would have found a way to welcome them in.

Border Agents want the wall you are not the expert. They are. Seems simple enough for even a dumbass like you to understand.

You're the dumbass in this equation. Border Patrol types do want a wall and not because they are experts... except at separating your from your money.

If you'll research really closely, you will find that one of Trump's options for financing his nutty wall idea is to expand the ASSET FORFEITURE laws. To that end he has engaged William Barr as his Attorney General - a man that wants to separate you from your money.

Hell yeah, the Border Patrol wants a bigger and more intrusive government. That way you will always be breaking the peripheral laws associated with the wall - though never being on either side of the equation, lose what you own, and the Border Patrol walks away with all that you own.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

Correct. There is no emergency on the border. Only a crisis made by the President.

Dumb ass wallists (those who worship the wall) aren't bright enough to see when events are staged to make them react like trained monkeys.

Dumbass is one word and you should know since you are one. Staged like the moon landing? You’re seriously two french fries short of a happy meal

Dumbocrat lieberals are also two bricks shy a load. Two sandwiches shy a picnic. I could go on and on but what is the point. When you are dealing with stupid lieberals who think that hundreds of thousands of criminal illegals that are crossing the border every year is not a crisis is way out in leftist lieberal field. The crisis has been made and allowed to continue because there was no one like Trump trying to do something really serious about it. These lieberals are in serious need of mental help. When hundreds of thousands of criminal illegals are entering their country every year it is a crisis. The border patrol is not trying to spread bull chit. It is the leftist lieberal fools like candy dandy. Is those suckers that candy dandy keeps sucking on have pot coating the surface? It sure looks like it to me.

I will bet that none of these pro criminal illegals will never take one of those criminals into their homes. They like to talk the talk but won't do the walk. Dumbass lieberals.

I would call you a dumbass, but that would be an insult to the word. For the record, I've voted in every election since 1980. This past election I voted for ONE Democrat and that was for PSC. Other than that, I've voted for Republicans, Libertarians and Independents.

You're a bare faced liar to insinuate that the only people against the wall are liberals. Poll after poll reveals a growing trend among Republicans to speak out and say they are against the wall.

You love slinging that word "criminal" around but if your dumb ass were the one on the receiving end of it, you'd sing a different tune. Bad precedents are started by idiots like you that take a giant shit on the Constitution because you feel so inferior to others. Calling people names and making false allegations only shows the desperation by which you have to approach this issue. Have you ever heard of innocent until proven guilty? Do you know how many of your own kind have been jailed, put into prison, flipped and work for Uncle Scam as Confidential Informants or even killed for making the same faux pas you just made over the last decade and a half?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

So because fewer are crossing now it is not an emergency?

Yep.

That is just stupid logic.

No, actually, it’s perfectly logical.

It was an emergency then and it is now as well.

No. No, it wasn’t.

Duh. $22trn in debt don’t need more freeloaders. You’re dumb.

Blaming illegal aliens for economic turmoil is convenient….blaming a specific group is an age old tactic of people who don’t know any better.

The facts are this:

Since 2000 when we did have the 1.6 million arrests (and as you contest, the 3.2 million that got in), our nations’ GDP has doubled.
2000 and 2009 GDP Estimates, Top 30 Economies
5 US GDP Statistics You Need to Know

The Stock Market has doubled.

Family income is up.

Your economic argument is garbage.

Meanwhile, unemployment has dwindled.

—

Why are we $22T in debt?

We spend more on defense than the next highest spending 7 countries combined or something like that. Six of those are allies! And we do this every year. Not smart.

U.S. Defense Spending Compared to Other Countries

It isn’t all defense. Social Security Disability is ridiculous. This isn’t the check you get when you retire after a life of working. These are checks to people who have such disabling items as high blood pressure. In 2017 it was $143 Billion dollars.

Chart Book: Social Security Disability Insurance

Which is actually an improvement. One in four people in one Alabama county were on disability according to one source who did a landmark report on it.

http://apps.npr.org/unfit-for-work/

How silly has it become? You get more money if you’re on disability and you have a child. So there are now over a million kids on SSDI as well.

(same source as above).

And the politics of it are ambiguous but it’s mostly red states by percentage (this could be misleading because a smaller percent of a blue state could be more people than a large percent of a rural state).

View attachment 249260

How much is $143B? Compare it to how much is spent on other programs:
View attachment 249262

The biggest spending are on things we just need the political will to address. We need to raise the retirement age—liberals are out to lunch on this. We need to roll back defense spending one out of every 3 years for the next decade. And yes, we need to raise taxes to get the debt under control.

Idiot. Entitlements are the reason not defense. LOL and entitlements cost more because we have so many more freeloaders here.

The freeloaders are the 1 in 5 Americans (over 20 percent) who are dependent upon the government for their daily bread.

But they are Americans and we should help them. No need to help illegals.

Yeah, if you helped the Americans instead of harming them with idiotic policies, you wouldn't have any of those so - called "illegals."

They are illegals not so called.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Dumbass is one word and you should know since you are one. Staged like the moon landing? You’re seriously two french fries short of a happy meal

It's not my fault that you are a dumb ass. You still believe in Santa, the Tooth Fairy and Easter Bunny too?

Anybody with an IQ higher than their shoe size would be asking if that many people are coming here under an anti immigrant president (supposedly), why not under the community organizer?

How many is that many? 2/3 still get through and the cartels run them and don't care who the POTUS is. You're seriously stupid.

You are the one who is seriously stupid.

* Americans consume over 80 percent of the world's opioid supply
* We have more people in prisons than any country on the planet
* For every 1 drug addict in a rehab facility there are more than 10 addicts in prison

It's beyond stupid to blame cartels for America's current culture. People cannot sell you what you aren't willing to buy. Your side's idiotic solutions go like this:

+ Build a wall around the southern border
+ Give everyone a National ID Card system that would make Hitler blush
+ Build more jails and prisons
+ Subject all humans to background checks even to exercise their God given unalienable Rights... and viola problem solved

ABSOLUTE FREAKING STUPIDITY

# A wall will not take welfarites off welfare
# A wall will not erase a criminal history
# A wall will not cure drug addiction
# A wall will not incentivize the lazy to go out and get a job
# A wall does not stop foreigners from coming here. It may up the ante, but it does not do one, single solitary thing to rectify the underlying causes of what is wrong in America.

Without the wall, our economic picture has shown that there is NO NEED for one. So, who is doing all the crying?

Those who are whining are those that think the world owes them a living. Those who have made a career bitching about the situation have wasted your lives on the Internet when you could go out and make a good living by learning a trade and DOING something with your lives.

Instead, you have this fascination with little brown people from south of the border when the bigger threat is that half who enter the United States via the proper means and take up chairs in colleges and universities, going on to take quarter of a million a year jobs that some of YOU could be working IF you'd get off your ass and go to work.

This phony and staged flooding of America by foreigners was well planned IIRC. When big stores (mostly Walmarts) were being quietly closed for what the conspiracy theorists thought were going to be detention centers for the right, it was actually a place to put all the foreigners that were going to be brought in for the purposes of selling you the LIE that we were all of a sudden being flooded - and under an anti-immigrant president. Common freaking sense says that if someone wanted to come here, it would have been done when Obama was in office and he would have found a way to welcome them in.

Border Agents want the wall you are not the expert. They are. Seems simple enough for even a dumbass like you to understand.

You're the dumbass in this equation. Border Patrol types do want a wall and not because they are experts... except at separating your from your money.

If you'll research really closely, you will find that one of Trump's options for financing his nutty wall idea is to expand the ASSET FORFEITURE laws. To that end he has engaged William Barr as his Attorney General - a man that wants to separate you from your money.

Hell yeah, the Border Patrol wants a bigger and more intrusive government. That way you will always be breaking the peripheral laws associated with the wall - though never being on either side of the equation, lose what you own, and the Border Patrol walks away with all that you own.

Wrong as he wants to pay for the wall by taxing remittances. And the BP agents want it. That is not even disputable.