there was no insurrection on jan 6th !

[Lesh]

By occupying a building for a few hours? Was the Pentagon taking their calls?

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In a word

Yes.

They stopped the electoral count temporarily.

Had that half lasted into the next day anything could have happened

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Let’s return to the four weeks that preceded the J6 Republican mob/mentality political attack on western liberal American democracy. Here is an exchange that transpired on December 3, 2020.

rightwinger post #406 said: “306-232 EV •¥ • Over 6 million popular vote” • ¥¥ • “Massive Landslide and Republicans know it. They owe Biden the courtesy of calling him President Elect rather than pandering to an immature President who won’t accept that he was beaten. • ¥¥¥ • rghtwngr.20.12.03 #406​

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Redfish post #411 said: how many fraudulent votes are included in those totals? The dominion system was designed to flip votes and it did just that in most of the swing states, but fear not the truth is coming out. Biden will never be president. rdfsh.20.12.03 #411 to rghtwngr.20.12.03 #406​

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The following is an excerpt from NEWSWEEK pblshd.22.01.08 written by Jason Lemon posted by nf.23.12.10 #1,182

Trump Claims Jan. 6 Rally Size 'Censored' by Media, Crowd Was Biggest He's Seen​

"The real number I won't say because it'll be a headline, 'Oh, he exaggerated the number.' The real number was over that sacred number—you know what that number was, right?" Trump continued.

He complained that the the U.S. has "such a dishonest press," adding, "Why don't they show the real crowd that was there on January 6—the crowd of people that was the biggest I've ever seen?"

Trump claimed that you can't find pictures of the rally crowd, adding, "They have censored the pictures."

Trump Claims 1/6 Rally Size 'Censored' by Media, Crowd Biggest He's Seen

"The real number I won't say because it'll be a headline, 'Oh, he exaggerated the number,'" the former president complained.

www.newsweek.com

pblshd.22.01.08 lemon

Lesh said: They stopped the electoral count temporarily. Had that half lasted into the next day anything could have happened. lvsh!.23.12.10 #1,181

The above excerpt from NEWSWEEK pblshd.22.01.08 written by J.Lemon informs the nation that Trump’s state of mind during the J6 insurrection was that he had amassed over a million “Steal Stopping” dumbass Ashley Babbitts in a “million man mob “ to disrupt and prevent the Constitutionally mandated Joint Session of Congress from counting the certification of the Electoral College votes that he lost. Thus, disrupt and prevent the peaceful transfer of power to a new Administration that chosen by the people according to all fifty state’s certifications in mid-December 2020.

In response to lvsh!.23.12.10 #1,181 I believe it is important to understand as American voters that Trump’s insurrection attempt is not definable in normal understanding of overthrowing a duly elected government.



Trump had in mind to stop the steal the primitive assault style known as mobilizing strength in numbers.

His intended weapon was a combination of electoral college fraud, propagation of lies about the election, and strength in agitated mob numbers converging on the Joint Session to delay the actual moment that Joe Biden Constitutionally becomes officially President elect.

So we can only imagine whether or not our democratic institutions and Constitutional order would have survived if Trump had actually attracted over a million pissed off election denying losers to the MALL that day and ten percent of that number turned violent and laid siege to the Capitol.

Ashley Babbitt died because she believed she had three million attackers going in into the Capitol in front and behind her., She believed she had three million filled with enough white grievances galore to give Trump a second term, SHe’s dead and deserves to be.

Clyde 154 said: “Why is it anytime a conservative movement exercises their Constitutional Rights of assembly and speech.........it’s called an insurrection?”clydvnnn.22.02.12 #4

NotfooledbyW said: Allow me to explain. • ¥ • As Ashley Babbitt walked east along the Mall on Jan6 wearing a backpack emblazoned with the American flag, she streamed a video on Facebook narrating “It was amazing to get to see the president talk,” and “We are now walking down the inaugural path to the Capitol building. Three million-plus people.” At that juncture in time and place, Babbitt and 2,999,999 other MAGA mob retards were indeed exercising their Constitutional Rights of assembly and speech with absolutely no problem at all. • ¥¥ • Now Clyde 154 hear this and keep the following in mind if you plan to participate in a protest and do not want your head justifiably blown off by authorities, When you are there protesting, if you see criminal behavior that is violent in nature such as beating a cop, you get as far away from that as possible immediately- • ¥¥¥ • BABBITT made the wrong choice because she was not there to peacefully protest, She was religiously there to facilitate Q-anon's STORM. It's been reported that she avidly followed the QAnon conspiracy theory, convinced that Trump was destined to vanquish a cabal of child abusers and Satan-worshiping Democrats. She went to the Capitol on Jan6 thinking this was “the storm,” when QAnon mythology holds that Trump would capture and execute his opponents. In other words she was just plain F$&@ing nuts. •¥¥¥¥ • When Babbitt saw peaceful protest end and criminal activity begin she chose to be a violent criminal for Trumpism - her newfound religion of Q. She fought her way in committing terrorist acts on the way and when she gained entrance without going through proper security check with a backpack on her back. And at the time, when the third and second in succession to the presidency were inside the building, every Capitol Police officer has a license to shoot her. She was too stupid to know that. So I wonder Clyde 154 are you that stupid too? Or are you in the thrall soft Q too? • ¥¥¥¥¥ • nf.22.02.12 #5 to clydvnnn.22.02.12 #4

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[Billo_Really]

There’s a lot to criticize with Biden!

I agree. But he is far better than Trump to lead this country.

 

[Faun]

no one has been charged with insurrection .. why is that ?

Because they were unsuccessful at overthrowing the government. But the ones who planned the insurrection were charged, and convicted, of seditious conspiracy, which is the planning or incitement of insurrection.

 

[yidnar]

I agree. But he is far better than Trump to lead this country.

tell us why .

 

[kaz]

I did not steal anything. I certainly did not sign up as a fake elector when Trump beat Clinton in ‘16.

The election was not stolen and Trump has produced zero evidence that it was after three years.

You believe anything. No wonder you are FooledByEveryone, MAGA man

 

[Billo_Really]

tell us why .

He doesn't want to be a dictator on day one. He respects the rule of law. He is doing things FOR the country and not TO the country. Plus he is not a criminal with over 91 felony indictments.

 

[yidnar]

He doesn't want to be a dictator on day one. He respects the rule of law. He is doing things FOR the country and not TO the country. Plus he is not a criminal with over 91 felony indictments.

most Americans dont believe you .

 

[NotfooledbyW]

kaz in #1168 said: You believe anything. kvz!.23.10.11 #1,186

rightwinger post #406 said: “306-232 EV •¥ • Over 6 million popular vote” • ¥¥ • “Massive Landslide and Republicans know it. They owe Biden the courtesy of calling him President Elect rather than pandering to an immature President who won’t accept that he was beaten. • ¥¥¥ • rghtwngr.20.12.03 #406

Redfish in #411 said: how many fraudulent votes are included in those totals? The dominion system was designed to flip votes and it did just that in most of the swing states, but fear not the truth is coming out. Biden will never be president. rdfsh.20.12.03 #411 to rghtwngr.20.12.03 #406

I do not believe what Redfish in #411 said: that the Dominion machines flipped votes from Trump to Biden in most of the swing states. Just like Fox News.

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[Billo_Really]

most Americans dont believe you .

Those are brain-dead, dumbass un-Americans too pussy to think for themselves. That's why they want to vote in a modern day Hitler to do away with the rule of law in this country and make us some fucked up 3rd world nation.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

tell us why .

Biden does not break bread with racist bigoted scum such as this:

Last year Donald Trump dined with two anti-Semites, Kanye West and Nick Fuentes, at his Mar-a-Lago resort and residence, drawing massive outrage while revealing to many Americans for the first time who Fuentes is: a white supremacist, Christian nationalist, anti-LGBTQ, authoritarian extremist who supports Trump's "America First" doctrine.

How deplorable it is the company that DJT’s keeps.

White supremacist who dined with Trump calls for ‘death penalty’ for non-Christians

Last year Donald Trump dined with two anti-Semites, Kanye West and Nick Fuentes, at his Mar-a-Lago resort and residence, drawing massive outrage while revealing to many Americans for the first time who Fuentes is: a white supremacist, Christian nationalist, anti-LGBTQ, authoritarian extremist...

www.rawstory.com

In his livestream show on Sunday titled, "The Great Replacement is about White GENOCIDE," Fuentes called for the "death penalty" for non-Christians, according to Right Wing Watch (video below). "Antisemitic white nationalist Christian fascist Nick Fuentes says that when his America First movement takes power, all non-Christians will be executed," RWW reported.

It's the name Jesus, talk about it, say it. Pray to Him, talk about the sacrifice on the cross, that's the answer. Because so many of the people that are perpetrating the lies and the destruction on the country, they are evil doers. They are people that worship false gods, they are people that practice magic or rituals or whatever, and more than anything those people need to be, when we take power, they need to be given the death penalty. Straight up. And, I'm far more concerned about that than I am about even non-white people or mass migration."

Fuentes declared. "Not that God needs it, but it must be outwardly expressed from the interior, that this is God's country. This is Jesus's country. This is not the domain of atheists or devil worshipers or perfidious Jews. This is Christ's country," he said, adding those who are "agnostic" cannot be part of his "America First" movement. "No, you must be a Christian. And you must submit to Christianity."

 

[yidnar]

Biden does not break bread with racist bigoted scum such as this:



How deplorable it is the company that DJT’s keeps.

White supremacist who dined with Trump calls for ‘death penalty’ for non-Christians

Last year Donald Trump dined with two anti-Semites, Kanye West and Nick Fuentes, at his Mar-a-Lago resort and residence, drawing massive outrage while revealing to many Americans for the first time who Fuentes is: a white supremacist, Christian nationalist, anti-LGBTQ, authoritarian extremist...

www.rawstory.com

uhhh . Bribens friend and mentor Byrd was a leader in the KKK.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

DJTdisqualified page 9 Colorado Supreme Court

I. Background

¶8 On November 8, 2016, President Trump was elected as the forty-fifth President of the United States. He served in that role for four years.

¶9 On November 7, 2020, Joseph R. Biden, Jr., was elected as the forty-sixth President of the United States. President Trump refused to accept the results, but President Biden now occupies the office of the President.

¶10 On December 14, 2020, the Electoral College officially confirmed the results: 306 electoral votes for President Biden; 232 for President Trump. President Trump continued to challenge the outcome, both in the courts and in the media.

¶11 On January 6, 2021, pursuant to the Twelfth Amendment, U.S. Const. amend. XII, and the Electoral Count Act, 3 U.S.C. § 15, Congress convened a joint session to certify the Electoral College votes. President Trump held a rally that morning at the Ellipse in Washington, D.C. at which he, along with several others, spoke to the attendees.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

DJTdisqualified page 10 Colorado Supreme Court

In his speech, which began around noon, President Trump persisted in rejecting the election results, telling his supporters that “[w]e won in a landslide” and “we will never concede.” He urged his supporters to “confront this egregious assault on our democracy”; “walk down to the Capitol . . . [and] show strength”; and that if they did not “fight like hell, [they would] not . . . have a country anymore.” Before his speech ended, portions of the crowd began moving toward the Capitol. Below, we discuss additional facts regarding the events of January 6, as relevant to the legal issues before us.

¶12 Just before 4 a.m. the next morning, January 7, 2021, Vice President Michael R. Pence certified the electoral votes, officially confirming President Biden as President-elect of the United States.

¶13 President Trump now seeks the Colorado Republican Party’s 2024 presidential nomination.

II. Procedural History

¶14 On September 6, 2023, the Electors initiated these proceedings against the Secretary in Denver District Court under sections 1-4-1204(4), 1-1-113(1), 13-51-105, C.R.S. (2023), and C.R.C.P. 57(a). In their Verified Petition, the Electors challenged the Secretary’s authority to list President Trump “as a candidate on the 2024 Republican presidential primary election ballot and any future election ballot, based on his disqualification from public office under Section [Three].”

 

[NotfooledbyW]

DJTdisqualified page 11 Colorado Supreme Court

¶15 President Trump intervened and almost immediately filed a Notice of Removal to federal court, asserting federal question jurisdiction.

See 28 U.S.C. §§ 1331, 1441(a), 1446.

In light of the removal, the Denver District Court closed the case on September 8. On September 12, the federal district court remanded the case back to state court, concluding that it lacked jurisdiction because the Electors had no Article III standing and the Secretary had neither joined nor consented to the removal.

¶16 Once the Electors filed proof with the Denver District Court that all parties had been served, the court reopened the case on September 14. At a status conference four days later, on September 18, the Secretary emphasized that she must certify the candidates for the 2024 presidential primary ballot by January 5.

See § 1-4-1204(1).

The court set the matter for a five-day trial, beginning on October 30. On September 22, with the parties’ input, the court issued expedited case management deadlines for a host of matters, including the disclosure of expert reports, witness lists and exhibits, as well as for briefing and argument on several motions. The court also granted CRSCC’s motion to intervene on October 5.

¶17 On October 11, the Secretary’s office received (1) President Trump’s signed and notarized statement of intent to run as a candidate for a major political party in the presidential primary; (2) the approval form for him to do so, signed by the chair of the Colorado Republican Party, asserting that President Trump was “bonafide and affiliated with the [Republican] party”; and (3) the requisite filing fee. See § 1-4-1204(1)(c).

 

[otto105]

there was no insurrection on jan 6th ! why do i say this ? its simple ....what happened on jan 6th although serious and illegal was a few hundred people trespassing and causing minor damage to the capital ! if it were a serious insurrection it sure didnt last very long may be 2 or 3 hrs ...... but even though we have only had one very brief instance of vilonce from the right the liars on the left harp constantly about how violent and dangerous the right is ..... but lets get real.... a real insurrection and rebellion against government lasts a lot longer that a few hrs ! it goes on for yrs in a protracted assault on the rule of law ...and thats just what weve seen from the treasonous left for the past few yrs ! the true insurrection and attack on the rule of law and the constitution is coming from the scum on the left ! the only people that have taken US territory and attempted to institute their own marxist gov are leftist [remember CHOP in Seattle ] and the most vicious attacks against law enforcement and gov buildings and private property has come from dems ! dems are traitors ! and i know many on the faggot left will dispute this .... but remember there has been nore will there be any more acts of mob violence since the brief meltdown on jan 6th from the right ... and we all know this cant be said for the violent left ! they will loot burn assault destroy and kill again this summer again in their quest for marxist rule and power .

All that is unholy and unethical. What the fuck is that paragraph.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

DJTdisqualified page 12 Colorado Supreme Court

¶18 On October 20, the district court issued an Omnibus Order addressing many outstanding motions. Regarding President Trump’s motions, the court reached three conclusions that are relevant now: (1)the Electors’ petition involved constitutional questions, but remained “a challenge against an election official based on her alleged duties under the Election Code,” and “such a claim [was] proper under [section] 1-1-113 as a matter of procedure”;

(2) “[section] 1-4-1204 expressly incorporates [section] 1-1-113, and [section] 1-1-113 does not limit challenges to acts that have already occurred, but rather provides for relief when the Secretary is ‘about to’ take an improper or wrongful act”—thus, because the Electors had alleged such an act, the matter was ripe for decision; and (3) it could not conclude, as a matter of law, that the Fourteenth Amendment excludes a candidate from the presidential primary ballot or that the Secretary has the authority to determine candidate qualifications, so those issues would be determined at the trial.

¶19 Regarding CRSCC’s motions, the court, in relevant part, concluded that the state does not violate a political party’s First Amendment associational rights by excluding constitutionally ineligible candidates from the presidential primary ballot, but also rejected CRSCC’s argument to the extent it purported to raise an
independent constitutional claim beyond the proper scope of a section 1-1-113 proceeding.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

DJTdisqualified page 13 Colorado Supreme Court

¶20 On October 23, President Trump filed a petition for review in this court, asking us to exercise original jurisdiction to halt the scheduled trial. Four days later, we denied the petition without passing judgment on the merits of any of President Trump’s contentions.

¶21 On October 25, the district court denied President Trump’s Fourteenth- Amendment-based motion to dismiss. As relevant now, the court concluded that (1) it would not dismiss the case under the political question doctrine, but it reserved the right to revisit the doctrine “to the extent that there is any evidence or argument at trial that provides the Court with additional guidance on whether the issue of presidential eligibility has been delegated to the United States Congress”; (2) whether Section Three is self-executing is irrelevant because section 1-4-1204 allows the Secretary to exclude constitutionally disqualified candidates, and states “can, and have, applied Section [Three] pursuant to state statutes without federal enforcement legislation”; and (3) it would reserve for trial the issues of whether Section Three applies to a President and whether President Trump had engaged in insurrection.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

DJTdisqualified page 14 Colorado Supreme Court

¶22 The trial began, as scheduled, on October 30. The evidentiary portion lasted five days, with closing arguments almost two weeks later, on November 15.
13

During those two weeks, the Electors, the Secretary, President Trump, and CRSCC submitted proposed findings of fact and conclusions of law. The court issued its written final order on November 17, finding, by clear and convincing evidence, that the events of January 6 constituted an insurrection and President Trump engaged in that insurrection. The court further concluded, however, that Section Three does not apply to a President because, as the terms are used in Section Three, the Presidency is not an “office . . . under the United States” nor is the President “an officer of the United States” who had “previously taken an oath . . . to support the Constitution of the United States.”

U.S. Const. amend. XIV, § 3; see Anderson, ¶¶ 299–315.

Accordingly, the Secretary could not exclude President Trump’s name from the presidential primary ballot. Anderson, Part VI. Conclusion.

¶23 On November 20, both the Electors and President Trump sought this court’s review of the district court’s rulings under section 1-1-113(3).

We accepted jurisdiction of the parties’ cross-petitions. Following extensive briefing from the parties and over a dozen amici, we held oral argument on December 6 and now issue this ruling.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Yep, no insurrection.