Zone1 There is a punishment (we hope not an eternal one) for not listening to Christ's Church

It's up to you to find out. There is NOTHING more important for you to know in this life. And it ain't that hard

Ask a Muslim and he'll tell his religion is the correct one
Ask a Christian and he'll tell you his religion is the correct one
Ask a Jew and he'll tell you his religion is the correct one

So it's all subjective. Therefore it doesn't matter and if it doesn't matter then why follow any religion?
 
Ask a Muslim and he'll tell his religion is the correct one
Ask a Christian and he'll tell you his religion is the correct one
Ask a Jew and he'll tell you his religion is the correct one

So it's all subjective. Therefore it doesn't matter and if it doesn't matter then why follow any religion?

Muslims don't say Jews and Christians are wrong. They are People of the Book.. people of an earlier revelation.
 
Muslims don't say Jews and Christians are wrong. They are People of the Book.. people of an earlier revelation.

They don't say they are correct either.

It's obvious that the big 3 religions all worship a different gods.

The god Jews worship never walked the earth as a human being
Muslims believe Mohammed was the last and most important of god's prophets and that Jesus was just another prophet but they do not follow the teaching of Jesus.
 
They don't say they are correct either.

It's obvious that the big 3 religions all worship a different gods.

The god Jews worship never walked the earth as a human being
Muslims believe Mohammed was the last and most important of god's prophets and that Jesus was just another prophet but they do not follow the teaching of Jesus.

Muslims don't worship Muhammad. He's just a messenger. Like Christians and Jews they worship the God of Abraham. Basically they do follow the teachings of Jesus because they are universal.
 
Muslims don't worship Muhammad. He's just a messenger. Like Christians and Jews they worship the God of Abraham. Basically they do follow the teachings of Jesus because they are universal.
I never said Muslims worship Mohammed I SAID Muslims believe Mohammed was the last and most important prophet and they follow Mohammed's teachings not Jesus's.

Neither Jews nor Christians recognize Mohammed as a prophet of the gods they worship
 
I never said Muslims worship Mohammed I SAID Muslims believe Mohammed was the last and most important prophet and they follow Mohammed's teachings not Jesus's.

Neither Jews nor Christians recognize Mohammed as a prophet of the gods they worship

I know. Jews don't recognize Jesus either.
 
Nope. They all worship the God of Abraham.

No they don't.

One of the gods magically impregnated a woman so it could be born as a human
one of the gods anointed Mohammed as his last and most important prophet

They aren't all the same god because the three religions have different beliefs.
 
No they don't.

One of the gods magically impregnated a woman so it could be born as a human
one of the gods anointed Mohammed as his last and most important prophet

They aren't all the same god because the three religions have different beliefs.

Muhammad wasn't anointed. Muslims believe Jesus was the purist of the prophets born of a virgin from the mind of God.
 
Muhammad wasn't anointed. Muslims believe Jesus was the purist of the prophets born of a virgin from the mind of God.
And yet Muslims do not use the New Testament and solely use the Koran which is Mohammed's book

Christians and Jews do not recognize Mohammed as a prophet
 
And yet Muslims do not use the New Testament and solely use the Koran which is Mohammed's book

Christians and Jews do not recognize Mohammed as a prophet

Exactly, and Jews reject the New Testament. Muslims think the Koran came from the angel Gabriel...
 
Exactly, and Jews reject the New Testament. Muslims think the Koran came from the angel Gabriel...

So they worship different gods.

If they all worshiped the same god they would be using the same book and would believe in the same prophets and that Jesus was god incarnate walking the earth as a human
 
King James Bible
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2 Tim 3:16.
Paul is specifically talking about the OT scriptures which should be read in a messianic context.
It is a great assumption that Paul knew that all the letters written by him and the other various NT authors would one day be canonized like the OT Scriptures. And some of the NT authors referred to Paul's writings as "Scripture". But, this doesn't equate to a necessity for Salvation or part of "Doctrine".
This doesn't mean the letters written by the NT authors weren't "Inspired" and are not a benefit. But placing one's faith on the foundation that the "Bible" is source of faith and not Christ, is bibliolatry.
 
A large percentage of the New Testament is devoted to Paul, his travels and letters. Did Paul start the Catholic Church? If Peter started the Catholic Church and the Catholic Church is the only true Christian church than why is there not more about Peter in the New Testament?
Notice how this has been ignored?
 
A large percentage of the New Testament is devoted to Paul, his travels and letters. Did Paul start the Catholic Church? If Peter started the Catholic Church and the Catholic Church is the only true Christian church than why is there not more about Peter in the New Testament?
Simon Magus started the Roman Church -- something so few want to actually look into. But it MATTERS
 
Simon Magus started the Roman Church -- something so few want to actually look into. But it MATTERS
Interesting take on a man also known as Simon the Sorcerer. Some say he was the founder of Gnosticism an alternative form of early Christianity.
 
A large percentage of the New Testament is devoted to Paul, his travels and letters. Did Paul start the Catholic Church? If Peter started the Catholic Church and the Catholic Church is the only true Christian church than why is there not more about Peter in the New Testament?

Notice how this has been ignored?
"Catholic" (and especially in those times) means "Open and welcoming to all." Non-Catholic Christians often say they are based on scripture alone. Some even decry that the Catholic Church retains Apostolic tradition. Apostolic tradition was telling the story of Christ--their oral accounts becoming the Gospel accounts.

The original twelve apostles knew Christ, and those accounts about Jesus' life became Gospel. Paul's letters were of Christ--but about early Christian communities and homilies for them. Paul mentions Jesus occasionally in his letters. In the oral tradition of the Apostles (later the written Gospels) Jesus was mentioned constantly, and of all the Apostles, Peter mentioned the most...63 times if memory serves.

So, what say you--are Catholics more focused on Jesus and their Gospel accounts (given by Peter and the other ten apostles) while non-Catholic Christians choose to focus on Paul?
 
"Catholic" (and especially in those times) means "Open and welcoming to all." Non-Catholic Christians often say they are based on scripture alone. Some even decry that the Catholic Church retains Apostolic tradition. Apostolic tradition was telling the story of Christ--their oral accounts becoming the Gospel accounts.

The original twelve apostles knew Christ, and those accounts about Jesus' life became Gospel. Paul's letters were of Christ--but about early Christian communities and homilies for them. Paul mentions Jesus occasionally in his letters. In the oral tradition of the Apostles (later the written Gospels) Jesus was mentioned constantly, and of all the Apostles, Peter mentioned the most...63 times if memory serves.

So, what say you--are Catholics more focused on Jesus and their Gospel accounts (given by Peter and the other ten apostles) while non-Catholic Christians choose to focus on Paul?
In my experience, protestants focus on the whole of the NT.
Catholics, IME, focus Saints, Mary, and various extra-biblical beliefs.
 

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