The Wisconsin 'Poison Pill"

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    The Dick Morris Poll, to be published at least once a month, will use the traditional polling method of telephone calls to registered voters. On occasion, internet polls will be done of a carefully drawn random sample of likely voters – in order to avoid the bias of relying only on those participants with a political predisposition.

    The initial poll is the first published poll of voters conducted within the state of Wisconsin and was completed on Monday, February 21, 2011 and Tuesday, February 22, 2011.

    WISCONSIN POLL RESULTS

    • By 74-18, they back making state employees pay more for their health insurance.
    • By 79-16, they support asking state workers contribute more toward their pensions.
    • By 54-34, Wisconsin voters support ending the automatic deduction of union dues from state paychecks and support making unions collect dues from each member.
    • By 66-30, they back limiting state workers' pay increases to the rate of inflation unless voters approve a higher raise by a public referendum.
    THE DICK MORRIS POLL ON WISCONSIN at DickMorris.com

    I sympathize with the public sector workers when it involves collective bargaining...there is no reason to remove same, as it remains for elected public officials to agree or decline in negotiations...they have the final say, as these folks cannot strike.

    But no one seems to notice a more important death potion for unions...item #3 above...
    if this goes through, it will end public sector unions!

    Why?

    Human nature...I predict that workers will not voluntarily send in the the hundreds or thousands of dollars in union dues.

    So, wadda ya think?
     
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    I think the sooner we get rid of the blood-sucking goobers running AFSCME, AFT & NEA, the better.
     
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    They will pay their dues if they truly feel the union is necessary for them. If it turns out no then so be it.
     
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    I haven't gone into the technical details of the law, but it appears to bar payroll deduction of dues even for voluntary members which I think goes to far.


    I work for a school system in Virginia, we are a right to work state. However we still allow (in my school system) payroll deduction of union dues. The deduction is fully voluntary. I don't have an issue with that.


    I'm totally against though forced dues deduction for those that don't want to join the union.


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    In NYC, one of the actions against public unions that strike is the loss of 'check-off,' the automatic deduction of union dues....and the unions shudder at the thought!

    They know that folks will 'forget' to send in their dues.
    Hard to imagine that the Wisconsin unions have rallied against collective bargaining, but have not mentioned this aspect of the bill.
     
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    Sounds like a great idea to me.
     
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    If you truly believe that eliminating #3 will destroy unions, then the workers don't value membership in such unions in the first place.
     
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    Don't forget SEIU. They purple shirted ones are the most violent thugs around.
     
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    Thuggish vampires as they may be, SEIU doesn't have their thumb in the public till.
     
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    They do in CA; they're actually the biggest public employee union in the state. They've also been working on taking over the CALPERS board.
     
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