The "WAR ON WOMEN"

[Nostra]

roe v wade was settled 50 years ago & then the corrupt liars on the SC reverted back to the states & some of those states have already banned abortion & more.

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list states that banned abortion.

 

[Concerned American]

or become another hitler.

HaHaHa, grab a hold on that uterus and pull real hard. That's a real stretch, now you are asserting that the 64M aborted children since 1970 are Hitlers? You really are a piece of work.

the voiceless aren't more important than the voice of the incubators.

They can't be called incubators, that would entail promoting LIFE. These murderers are no more than sperm receptacles.

 

[Nostra]

No she did not. The tissue is living but it's not a person, and it can't be murdered. It's not "alive" until the child is automous and able to breathe air.

Yes she did. And explain to us how someone is charged with two murders when killing a pregnant woman, you flaming moron.

Go fix your shithole country, you KKKanadian fuchstick.

 

[Nostra]

2024 can bring in enough congress critters to legislate choice into federal law.





'children' ... nope.

Your Baby Killer Cult had control of everything for two years, Simp.

Why didn't they pass a bill saying killing babies was legal?

 

[SweetSue92]

Great help me out. Why does the Catholic Church say that life begins at Conception, and at the same time refuse to baptize a stillborn or miscarried fetus, claiming that baptism is only for the living?

Is this difficult to figure out?

An embryo and fetus have every expectation of life CONTINUED.

A stillborn baby and miscarried fetus are dead in that they will not continue to develop. Their development is arrested and indeed, ended. Sadly, tragically, dead.

 

[Nostra]

Sour grapes from a homophobe. The trans athlete is ranked 35 the nation. Gaines is 5th.

Lia Thomas tied Gaines in her first ever women's event after a year on testosterone blockers, but her muscle mass and times have continued to decline the longer Thomas is on testosterone blockers. Her times are now 15 seconds slower than they were before she started hormone therapy.

Thomas is barely ranked higher in the NCAA as a female swimmer, than when he was ranked 65th. There are more than twice as many male swimmers than female, so he's doing worse as a female swimmer.

what a pantload.

Let's see your links to these rankings.

Fun stuff ahead....

 

[Kondor3]

false. an acorn is not an oak tree.

Equating unborn children with plants? Nice. Try selling that to either the Right or the Center. Good luck with that.

 

[Kondor3]

There will be no "innocent unborn children" if women can't get proper prenatal care.

Vast legions of women undergo abortions merely for the sake of convenience or economics, and use abortion clinics like backup contraceptive devices.

And women can get all the proper prenatal care they want regardless of economic status.

Oh... by the way... "prenatal care" is not the same thing as "abortion".

Prenatal care encompasses the health and well-being of both mother and child... it is not dedicated to slaughtering the children by crushing their skulls.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

Trans women aren't beating biological women at sports. And there's very few who are even trying…

Right. Nothing much to get worked up about here. Certainly nothing to do with the real “War Against Women” which directly effects women’s health, privacy, access to abortion pills when contraception fails, etc.

Many private independent sports organizations are already taking steps to regulate whether the few trans athletes who compete in women’s sports meet hormone specific levels, just as they must meet other drug levels.

Oh, and as for the political hysteria pushed by evangelicals and rabble-rousing MAGA Republican hypocrites, what ever happened to the last fake war Republicans claimed Liberals were waging against them? What did they call it? Oh yeah… a … WAR ON CHRISTMAS!

The original idiot OP thread here claimed Liberals were waging a “war on women” instead of what most women know — that the evangelicals and MAGA extremists and state politicians and the Supreme Court majority are all on a campaign to end important women’s rights, like the right to abortion. Last I heard, Santa and his elves were doing just fine, but women in Red States … not so much.

Your Baby Killer Cult had control of everything for two years …
Why didn't they pass a bill saying killing babies was legal?

Because, asshole, liberals do not favor “killing babies.”

Liberals mostly don’t even “like” abortion, but see it as a choice, in many cases a “best choice” for women in a bad situation.

Most women, wives, lovers and daughters, and the conscientious men who care deeply about them, simply don’t want strangers, or the state, or rightwing religious fanatics, or corrupt politicians … to have veto power over women who find themselves “in trouble.”

It is in nobody’s interest that “the state” or “states” force women to carry and give birth to unwanted children, instead of children they want and will love when they (and their spouses) are ready and able to have them.

 

[Dragonlady]

Vast legions of women undergo abortions merely for the sake of convenience or economics, and use abortion clinics like backup contraceptive devices.

And women can get all the proper prenatal care they want regardless of economic status.

Oh... by the way... "prenatal care" is not the same thing as "abortion".

Prenatal care encompasses the health and well-being of both mother and child... it is not dedicated to slaughtering the children by crushing their skulls.

There are fewer than 1 million abortions in the USA every year. 80% are women living at or just above the poverty line. 60% of the women are married or in a committed relationship and have one or more children already.

There is a tremendous shortage of prenatal care for women of all social levels throughout the United States. Fewer and fewer doctors are taking up obstetrics and gynaecology as a specialty.

The costs of malpractice insurance are the highest in the medical profession. And with states passing laws outlawing, proper prenatal care for pregnant women few doctors want to stay in the field.

Hospitals are closing gynaecological units and maternity wings, because they don’t want to take the legal risk of dealing with the abortion laws and making decisions about what constitutes legal care.

Even when doctors are willing to perform the surgeries, women need, hospital boards, are vetoing the use of their facilities for fear of be legal consequences. And with women, more and more willing to file suit against those who refuse them care, and have a bad outcome, fewer and fewer hospitals, are going to want to deal with pregnant women at all

You continue to spout the lies and misinformation being promoted by the anti-abortion right on who and why women are getting abortions.

The women who get abortions are not young, promiscuous, and uncaring. The women who are getting abortions are low income wives and mothers whose birth control failed and who can’t afford another child.

This isn’t selfishness, nor greed. With no maternity leave or job security while they’re pregnant, these women can I’ll afford to be fired.

Canada has free abortion on demand for nine months and yet our abortion rate is half what yours is. That’s because we have universal healthcare, paid maternity and family leave, and job security for pregnant women, plus a $500 per month per child tax benefit for low income women. You cannot fire a pregnant woman in Canada.

Cutting the abortion rate, has nothing to do with “saving innocent lives”. It’s about controlling women because you can.

As always with Republicans, the cruelty is a feature, not a bug.

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

No! Those who define a woman choosing — for example — to take a pill to end an unwanted pregnancy (by far the most popular form of abortion today) and who also purposely mis-define a distressed woman’s decision to take such action as “the contract killing of innocent young human beings” …

It is objectively a contract killing and homicide of an innocent young human being you fucking lunatic. Stop denying objective reality. Your pure delusions don’t change things back here on Earth.

intellectually lazy and intentionally demagogic

Sanity and factually accurate statements are not “laziness.” Ridiculous.

The egg, larvae and caterpillar is not yet a butterfly.

A young butterfly is not an adult butterfly. What a profound statement.

Definitions of “life”

Yeah, no. There is no version of modern Biology where you can deny the life or humanity of abortion victims, toolbag.

Let’s be honest here.

When will you start? You’ve been denying factual reality this whole time?

For many, especially unrelated people, their attitude at such a time is sometimes colored by their attitude toward the mother, her financial and social status. Can she support her child? How many other children does she have? Is she married? They may secretly despise her for having a baby she is unfit to raise. Yet rightfully, or at least by modern law, nobody would dare deny the newborn baby’s legal personhood, its right to live under the protection of our laws — however inadequate those may be.

Kind of irrelevant, all of this. Some people would absolutely deny this born kid legal personhood, and if you assholes were logically consistent, you would too. I find it as alien and awful to argue for the legality of killing that newborn as what you are arguing for, killing the unborn / kids who are yet to be born.

Yet other men (and some women) seem to think that they (unrelated people), or society itself, needs the right to legislate that these utter strangers, unwilling women of all classes, MUST carry within their bodies, give birth to and then raise up these potential future children.

Whaleshit. What MUST? You can just not create kids if you don’t want to give birth / raise them.

So the “Moral Majority” seeks to use politicians to pass all kinds of legislation that once any woman is carrying a zygote, embryo or fetus in her womb, no matter how unwilling she may be, she has no right

To murder another human being, correct.

Oh no, such moralizing and imposition: don’t do violence to your fellow human beings. Your whining is patently ridiculous.

is an unborn “kid” with “rights” equal to her ow

What is your issue with objective reality?

Yes, your kids are human beings. They are not you, they are not your property. Human beings have human rights, yes.

how different people understand how becoming a “living human being” is a process

Fertilization is a process that creates a living human being from two cast off gamete cells.

There you go. Process complete.

You are welcome for your remediation in basic scientific fact, moron.

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

no.

there should be no compromise. otherwise females are only 3/5 of a person.

Utter drooling retardation.

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

A fetus with a heartbeat is not "living".

Objectively false insanity and retardation.

Where did you flunk out of elementary school, you inbred Canuckistani?

it's host

Mothers are NOT HOSTS. Jesus Haploid Christ. So incredibly stupid.

It's a potential life

Whaleshit. He or she is alive.

 

[Nostra]

There are fewer than 1 million abortions in the USA every year. 80% are women living at or just above the poverty line. 60% of the women are married or in a committed relationship and have one or more children already.

There is a tremendous shortage of prenatal care for women of all social levels throughout the United States. Fewer and fewer doctors are taking up obstetrics and gynaecology as a specialty.

The costs of malpractice insurance are the highest in the medical profession. And with states passing laws outlawing, proper prenatal care for pregnant women few doctors want to stay in the field.

Hospitals are closing gynaecological units and maternity wings, because they don’t want to take the legal risk of dealing with the abortion laws and making decisions about what constitutes legal care.

Even when doctors are willing to perform the surgeries, women need, hospital boards, are vetoing the use of their facilities for fear of be legal consequences. And with women, more and more willing to file suit against those who refuse them care, and have a bad outcome, fewer and fewer hospitals, are going to want to deal with pregnant women at all

You continue to spout the lies and misinformation being promoted by the anti-abortion right on who and why women are getting abortions.

The women who get abortions are not young, promiscuous, and uncaring. The women who are getting abortions are low income wives and mothers whose birth control failed and who can’t afford another child.

This isn’t selfishness, nor greed. With no maternity leave or job security while they’re pregnant, these women can I’ll afford to be fired.

Canada has free abortion on demand for nine months and yet our abortion rate is half what yours is. That’s because we have universal healthcare, paid maternity and family leave, and job security for pregnant women, plus a $500 per month per child tax benefit for low income women. You cannot fire a pregnant woman in Canada.

Cutting the abortion rate, has nothing to do with “saving innocent lives”. It’s about controlling women because you can.

As always with Republicans, the cruelty is a feature, not a bug.

I would ask for links to your laundry list of obvious blatant lies, but we all know how that would go.

Fix your shithole country, you KKKanadian fuckstick.

 

[Dragonlady]

Last week in the Wisconsin legislature, all of the Republican women joined with the Democrats to vote against the bill banning abortion with no exceptions for rape or incest.

All five women from both parties gave heartfelt and impassioned speeches as to why this bill will kill and harm women and children and should not pass.

After the Bill was defeated, the House leadership told the Republican women that they would be primaried next year.

 

[Concerned American]

force women to carry and give birth to unwanted children,

Sorry, it is irrelevant whether or not you "want" the spawn of your irresponsible roll in the hay. You should have thought about that beforehand. It is not the child's fault and they should not suffer murder because of your promiscuity. Try again receptacle.

 

[Dragonlady]

Sorry, it is irrelevant whether or not you "want" the spawn of your irresponsible roll in the hay. You should have thought about that beforehand. It is not the child's fault and they should not suffer murder because of your promiscuity. Try again receptacle.

If you’re going to continue to lie about who’s having abortions, and what these insane laws are doing to women, there’s no point in talking to you

Poor, married women who already have children whose birth control has failed, are getting abortions.

Party girls with no interest in getting pregnant are getting sterilized.

Low income women in their 20s and early 30s are you getting abortions, not irresponsible teenagers in high school.

Last but not least 13%, that’s 130,000 women who are evangelical Christians, get abortion. Since evangelical Christians are only 19% of the American population overall, it appears that young evangelical women are getting just as many abortions as non evangelicals.

Abortion is not a partisan matter. Women from every political party, and every faith are getting abortions. And more than half of them are married.

They are not sluts or whores, and very few of them are promiscuous. Just the mere fact that you have to lie about who these women are, shows what creep you are and be how wrong this policy truly is.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

Last week in the Wisconsin legislature, all of the Republican women joined with the Democrats to vote against the bill banning abortion with no exceptions for rape or incest.

All five women from both parties gave heartfelt and impassioned speeches as to why this bill will kill and harm women and children and should not pass.

After the Bill was defeated, the House leadership told the Republican women that they would be primaried next year.

Thanks for this post and so many other really informative ones you provide. There is certainly a Republican “war on women” — a real one & not the b.s. crap that Republicans talk about.

I believe that ever greater numbers of women will become casualties of this hysteria, and I fear the rational voices of even Republican women will be mostly ignored in the next period.

It’s not surprising that even many Conservative women politicos are becoming horrified by the excesses of this now insane and rabid Republican “war” against even early elective abortion. Some of these MAGA men are so crazed they will vote against their own best interests and those of their own wives and daughters.

None of these men care a hoot about the disproportional effect their policies have on the poorest and already most oppressed young women in backward rural Southern counties. Out of sight out of mind. Use them and abuse them. “Hump ‘em and dump em.”

The only real hope left is that they and their cynical politicians get taught a hard lesson in future elections — something I fear for now is still very unlikely to prove sufficiently devastating … not on the county, state or even on the Federal level.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

I understand you defend men competing against and beating women. It’s okay. You’re just not that talented so you have to beat women to try to feel important. Why do you hate women?

Making assumtions about who and what I am is as stupid as stupid gets

 

[Dragonlady]

Hey Suzy, what would happen to the child if they didn't remove it from the womb with a vacuum cleaner? That's right, its development would continue hopefully to a ripe old age unless disease or a murderer cut its life short. Ironic how you whine and cry for the children who are victims of a violent death (as you should) but you turn a deaf ear to the voiceless.

If it’s an ectopic pregnancy, the fetus will develop until it becomes too large for the fallopian tube. The tube will burst, the fetus will die and the woman will hemorrhage. If she doesn’t get immediate care to staunch the bleeding she can die within 10 minutes.

1/50 pregnancies in the USA is ectopic. There is no possibility that the fetus will ever become a human being. The only questions are whether the mother will survive, and will she be able to get pregnant afterwards.

If the woman was able to have a timely abortion before the tube bursts, neither of these questions would be an issue and the cost of saving her life would be minimal.

The lead plaintiff in the Texas law suit is a pro-life woman with really good health insurance who was admitted to hospital to await the inevitable but even she nearly died then they couldn’t begin treatment after the tube burst until the fetal heart stopped beating.
She needed surgery and months to recover. She still doesn’t know if she can have another baby.