The Ukraine - place blame where it TRULY belongs

[Redfish]

Ukraine is a corrupt country, no doubt has been for a long time. But that does not mean that Russia can invade it and rain death and destruction on it's citizens. There's no justification for that, none. So far as I know, Ukraine is not and has not been a menace to Russia or it's neighbors and no one's national security was at stake. This war is entirely Putin's fault.

Ukraine was part of the soviet union for decades. Sure, Putin is trying to reconstitute the Russia of the past------------so fricken what? We have no interest in saving Ukraine. It is a very corrupt country and laundered the Biden crime family's money for years. Ukraine is not worth the life of ONE american kid in uniform, not ONE. Let Putin have it, let him deal with the corruption and plotting.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The Ukraine and its history is no stranger to war and military skirmishes.

List of wars involving Ukraine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

You would think, by now, the so-called "leaders" would have learned something from the centuries of conflicts, causing destruction and death. But obviously not, since it continues.

WHY hasn't the Ukrainian "leaders" over the past few decades used their power and alliances with "free" countries to beef up their military, secure their borders, and create safety shelters for its citizens? WHERE has all the money gone that they have begged for, in order to help the Ukraine overcome these wars and military conflicts???

I'd say it isn't the invading forces fault that they can easily walk in and easily cause massive destruction and conflict. It seems it's the lack of the Ukrainian "leaders" initiatives to create safe borders, a beefed up and ready to go military, and safe places for the citizens to go in order to escape the dangers and destruction.

Much like Puerto Rico and their hurricanes..........the Ukrainian "leaders" obviously don't give a rats ass about their country or their people they are supposed to protect, since they have never used any of the money given to them by other countries, to beef up and arm their military, secure all borders, and create safe places for the citizens to go in case of another military strike.

Seems to me these "leaders" are just using their country as their own personal ATM.......much like the Democrats using the USA's citizens as their own personal ATM!!! They have no regard for the lives they are in charge of, until the world is looking at them under a microscope. Then, all of a sudden, they are begging for help and money.

I cannot feel sorry for a country that doesn't force it's leaders to ethically, legally, and humanely run their country and use the money they are given to protect said country and secure it, instead of shoving that money into their pockets.

It's not Putins fault. It's the Ukrainian "leaders" fault. Place blame where it TRULY belongs.

I heard Obama made a deal with Ukraine that if they got rid of their weapons America would be there to help them. They at one time had access to from Soviet nuclear weapons.

 

[Slade3200]

Yet He accomplished more than any president before Him.

Look up most of His admin people, majority were with previous administrations, so don't try and tell me about it. Most attempted to get Him to go the way of past admins.

You been 'Trumped' on the Hunter Biden laptop now?

I don’t think he accomplished more any any other president before him. That’s a retarded talking point that he made up before he was even in office. Don’t be a dupe

 

[Slade3200]

The FBI was NEVER "Trump's," boob-brain.

He chose who lead it, did he not? He had the ability to change leadership, did he not? The FBI is part of the executive branch is it not?

 

[Delldude]

I don’t think he accomplished more any any other president before him. That’s a retarded talking point that he made up before he was even in office. Don’t be a dupe

Suddenly Slade drops all his Hunter Biden rhetoric?

 

[Slade3200]

Suddenly Slade drops all his Hunter Biden rhetoric?

Huh?

 

[Delldude]

Huh?

Michael Yon

@MichaelYon1776

New Document Dump 26 March 2022 Just in:

About 80,000 images/videos/screenshots, and about 200,000 texts, emails, documents, were deleted or hidden on the drive. Those deleted or hidden files were recently recovered. These documents were released hours ago. [Edit, to be clear, this is a limited number of documents that due not include any images or child pornography. These are documents related to Ukraine and the Biden Crime Family]. Jack Maxey oversaw the recovery and just sent me this dump re Ukraine/Bidens. You are free to share: https://drive.infomaniak.com/app/share/47502...
Posted on 2:40 PM · Mar 26th, 2022
kDrive

 

[Ringo]

 

[Slade3200]

I’m guessing you are going to blindly believe that these “recovered documents” are all verified and true?! Is that correct?

 

[Richard-H]

How are you distinguishing between "digital" and "crypto" currencies?

Digital currency is, for example, when you have a bank account. The bank has a record of your money, but it doesn't physically exist.

Most money is in this form.

 

[Ringo]

Not only have many Orthodox churches in Donbass been shelled since 2014, but in the rest of Ukraine the Russian Orthodox Church faced persecution, such as property seizure, for many-many years. Now Ukraine may ban it altogether per new draft law.

 

[Ringo]

 

[LA RAM FAN]

this is what you will never hear from the msm media on ukraine

 

[Ringo]

Vladimir Putin’s 20-Year March to War in Ukraine—and How the West Mishandled It

Washington and the EU vacillated between engagement and deterrence. Meanwhile, the Russian leader became more isolated and more obsessed.

www.wsj.com

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz in February offered the leader of Ukraine Vladimir Zelensky a way to resolve the conflict with Russia by refusing Kiev's accession to NATO, but the president refused to give up a peaceful solution to the issue. This became known to the Wall Street Journal (WSJ).

"At a meeting in Munich on February 19, he told Zelensky that Ukraine should abandon its aspirations for NATO and declare neutrality as part of a broader European security deal between the West and Russia," the newspaper notes. It is also indicated that the agreement would have been signed by the Presidents of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin and the United States Joe Biden, who would jointly guarantee the security of Ukraine.

In response, the Ukrainian leader refused the opportunity to resolve the conflict, noting that the majority of residents of the former Soviet republic allegedly support the country's accession to NATO. "His response made German officials worried that the chances of peace were fading"

 

[FA_Q2]

Vladimir Putin’s 20-Year March to War in Ukraine—and How the West Mishandled It

Washington and the EU vacillated between engagement and deterrence. Meanwhile, the Russian leader became more isolated and more obsessed.

www.wsj.com

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz in February offered the leader of Ukraine Vladimir Zelensky a way to resolve the conflict with Russia by refusing Kiev's accession to NATO, but the president refused to give up a peaceful solution to the issue. This became known to the Wall Street Journal (WSJ).

"At a meeting in Munich on February 19, he told Zelensky that Ukraine should abandon its aspirations for NATO and declare neutrality as part of a broader European security deal between the West and Russia," the newspaper notes. It is also indicated that the agreement would have been signed by the Presidents of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin and the United States Joe Biden, who would jointly guarantee the security of Ukraine.

In response, the Ukrainian leader refused the opportunity to resolve the conflict, noting that the majority of residents of the former Soviet republic allegedly support the country's accession to NATO. "His response made German officials worried that the chances of peace were fading"

That makes no sense. They acknowledged NATO was simply not going to happen a while back:

Volodymyr Zelensky Says Ukraine Won't Join NATO

The Ukrainian president said last week that he had "cooled down" on the idea of membership of the alliance, which he wants to set up a no-fly zone.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Ringo]

That makes no sense. They acknowledged NATO was simply not going to happen a while back:

Volodymyr Zelensky Says Ukraine Won't Join NATO

The Ukrainian president said last week that he had "cooled down" on the idea of membership of the alliance, which he wants to set up a no-fly zone.

www.newsweek.com

Cocaine addicts say a lot of things.

The WSJ reported that Zelensky had a chance to save Ukraine in February.

But the about the fact, fact that Ukraine could have been saved by the implementation of the Minsk agreements and the less arrogant attitude of the West to the issues of Russia's security guarantees, of course, not a word – these are the standards of Western "journalism".

 

[Ringo]