The Trumper Claims About the "Left" and Immigration

Pardon us if we on't feel the need to use horrific punishment of people (especially children) as a deterrence...that doesn't actually work....

Or want the law to be followed..


SIlly us

And guess what...Trump was offered wall funding several times in exchange for re-instating DACA (which the vast majority of American support) and he turned it down...remember the "shithole meeting"...
Are you lying or just stupid? It was Trump who offered to allow the Dreamers to stay in return for funding for the wall, but the Democrats turned him down.

WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump pressed for action on immigration Thursday, saying the country's system has failed Americans and pressing for his wall on the southern border.

Any legislation to address the residency status of "Dreamers," currently in limbo, "must secure the border with a wall," the president said, flanked by Republican senators who came to the White House for a meeting on immigration.


"We’d love to take care of DACA, but we’re only going to do it under these conditions," he concluded, laying down a red line as Congress gears up for yet another round of fights to fund the government.

Trump: Give me the wall, I'll give you 'Dreamers'
That's the deal?

Fund the wall and maybe some time later...You get DACA...or maybe not?

From a guy who had already twice renegged on a deal that was a straight up right now swap?

Bullshit

Pelosi and Schumer put DACA ON THE TABLE in direct exchange for Wall Funding you friggin ijits...and Trump PISSED on it in the "Shithole Summit"

Or did you forget about that already.

And THAT was after they had agreed to a deal with Trump in September...month prior to that.
You are misinformed. The Democrats never offered funding for the wall. You have the situation backwards. Trump offered them a package, the funding for the wall in exchange for allowing the Dreamers to stay and have a path to citizenship, and the Democrats turned it down. That's why you haven't heard the Democrats talking about the Dreamers since the beginning of the year, because they abandoned them rather than cooperate with the President.

You are misinformed. The Democrats never offered funding for the wall.

SCHUMER: I put 'the wall' on the table in my meeting with Trump, but he backed out of the deal
Schumer was only trying to avoid blame for a possible government shutdown. Trump had already offered to allow the dreamers to stay in return for funding for the wall and the Democrats had turned him down.

Sure.
Nice link.
 
So many lies and so little time.

No...we don't want "open borders". We also don't want to rip kids from their parents as a deterrence.

No...we don't want to "welcome a flood of illegals". We believe in the rule of law. The current "caravan" members are asking for asylum. The law allows that. It also says that

A. In order to request asylum you must be physically in the country

B. By law if you request asylum you are guaranteed a hearing. Less than 10% of such hearings result in it being granted and that's probably as it should be.
But the law is the law

That's correct. All they need to do is go to a Port of Entry in the United
States and ask for Asylum. They can then return to their tent in Tijuana
and they will be notified of their hearing date. The law does not say that
after applying they must remain in America wandering on our streets
until their hearing date.

If they are not granted asylum at their hearing they can then return to that
shithole that they came from.
 
Are you lying or just stupid? It was Trump who offered to allow the Dreamers to stay in return for funding for the wall, but the Democrats turned him down.

WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump pressed for action on immigration Thursday, saying the country's system has failed Americans and pressing for his wall on the southern border.

Any legislation to address the residency status of "Dreamers," currently in limbo, "must secure the border with a wall," the president said, flanked by Republican senators who came to the White House for a meeting on immigration.


"We’d love to take care of DACA, but we’re only going to do it under these conditions," he concluded, laying down a red line as Congress gears up for yet another round of fights to fund the government.

Trump: Give me the wall, I'll give you 'Dreamers'
That's the deal?

Fund the wall and maybe some time later...You get DACA...or maybe not?

From a guy who had already twice renegged on a deal that was a straight up right now swap?

Bullshit

Pelosi and Schumer put DACA ON THE TABLE in direct exchange for Wall Funding you friggin ijits...and Trump PISSED on it in the "Shithole Summit"

Or did you forget about that already.

And THAT was after they had agreed to a deal with Trump in September...month prior to that.
You are misinformed. The Democrats never offered funding for the wall. You have the situation backwards. Trump offered them a package, the funding for the wall in exchange for allowing the Dreamers to stay and have a path to citizenship, and the Democrats turned it down. That's why you haven't heard the Democrats talking about the Dreamers since the beginning of the year, because they abandoned them rather than cooperate with the President.

You are misinformed. The Democrats never offered funding for the wall.

SCHUMER: I put 'the wall' on the table in my meeting with Trump, but he backed out of the deal
Schumer was only trying to avoid blame for a possible government shutdown. Trump had already offered to allow the dreamers to stay in return for funding for the wall and the Democrats had turned him down.

Sure.
Nice link.
lol That was from your link, didn't you read it? Schumer only made that claim after he was accused of shutting down the government for political reasons.

While Schumer claims to have made his offer in private talks only when he was accused of trying to shut down the government, the President had made his offer to allow the dreamers to stay in his State of the Union address:

Here are the four pillars of our plan:

The first pillar of our framework generously offers a path to citizenship for 1.8 million illegal immigrants who were brought here by their parents at a young age — that covers almost three times more people than the previous administration. Under our plan, those who meet education and work requirements, and show good moral character, will be able to become full citizens of the United States.

The second pillar fully secures the border. That means building a wall on the Southern border, and it means hiring more heroes like CJ to keep our communities safe. Crucially, our plan closes the terrible loopholes exploited by criminals and terrorists to enter our country — and it finally ends the dangerous practice of “catch and release.”

The third pillar ends the visa lottery — a program that randomly hands out green cards without any regard for skill, merit, or the safety of our people. It is time to begin moving towards a merit-based immigration system — one that admits people who are skilled, who want to work, who will contribute to our society, and who will love and respect our country.

The fourth and final pillar protects the nuclear family by ending chain migration. Under the current broken system, a single immigrant can bring in virtually unlimited numbers of distant relatives. Under our plan, we focus on the immediate family by limiting sponsorships to spouses and minor children. This vital reform is necessary, not just for our economy, but for our security, and our future.

President Donald J. Trump's State of the Union Address | The White House
 
That's correct. All they need to do is go to a Port of Entry in the United
States and ask for Asylum. They can then return to their tent in Tijuana
and they will be notified of their hearing date.

That would be self deporting.

No asylum request for someone not physically IN the US will be considered.

That may be what you want...but it doesn't comport with the law as written.

You don't like it...change the law
 
From Politico

"The thought was that we could come to an agreement that afternoon, the president would announce his support, and the Senate and the House would get it done and it would be on the president’s desk," Schumer said Tuesday. "He didn’t do that. So we’re going to have to start on a new basis and so the wall offer is off the table."

In the now-famous cheeseburger summit last Friday with Trump, Schumer offered a large increase in border wall spending as a condition for a broader deal to help Dreamers. But after that offer was rebuffed — prompting the three-day government shutdown — the president has now “missed an opportunity to get the wall,” one Democratic aide said.

That was the "Cheeseburger Summit" in which Trump refused Wall funding
 
From Politico again

The "Shithole Summit"

A group of six Democratic and Republican lawmakers on Thursday reached a dealto shield Dreamers — immigrants brought to the U.S. illegally as children — from deportation. The deal also would include $2.7 billion for border security and over $1 billion for technology and infrastructure security.

Among other things, the deal would include a 12-year path for citizenship for Dreamers but would end the visa lottery system that Trump has routinely criticized.

On Friday morning, Trump cast blame on Democrats for what he claims are the deal’s faults.

“Because of the Democrats not being interested in life and safety, DACA has now taken a big step backwards. The Dems will threaten 'shutdown,' but what they are really doing is shutting down our military, at a time we need it most. Get smart, MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!”

Trump pissed on that BI-PARTISAN deal
 
That's correct. All they need to do is go to a Port of Entry in the United
States and ask for Asylum. They can then return to their tent in Tijuana
and they will be notified of their hearing date.

That would be self deporting.

No asylum request for someone not physically IN the US will be considered.

That may be what you want...but it doesn't comport with the law as written.

You don't like it...change the law
You should try to acquaint yourself with the facts before forming an opinion. There are agents in the US side of the border who are accepting applications for asylum and one by one those applying for asylum are allowed to enter the US for the purpose of applying, but then they must choose to go to one of the camps in the US to await the outcome of their application or can return to Mexico to await an answer. As we know, and as they should know, nearly all these requests will be refused at least twice, so what is going on now really has only propaganda value. In fact, many of the migrants are starting to realize they have been victims of political activists and are asking the Mexican government to help them return to their home countries.

Repelled by tear gas and confusion, many migrants leave the caravan to return home
 
From Politico

"The thought was that we could come to an agreement that afternoon, the president would announce his support, and the Senate and the House would get it done and it would be on the president’s desk," Schumer said Tuesday. "He didn’t do that. So we’re going to have to start on a new basis and so the wall offer is off the table."

In the now-famous cheeseburger summit last Friday with Trump, Schumer offered a large increase in border wall spending as a condition for a broader deal to help Dreamers. But after that offer was rebuffed — prompting the three-day government shutdown — the president has now “missed an opportunity to get the wall,” one Democratic aide said.

That was the "Cheeseburger Summit" in which Trump refused Wall funding
Of course this is just bullshit. Trump made his offer in his State of the Union address and the Democrats turned it down and have stopped talking about the dreamers since because they have abandoned them.
 
Pardon us if we on't feel the need to use horrific punishment of people (especially children) as a deterrence...that doesn't actually work....

Or want the law to be followed..


SIlly us

And guess what...Trump was offered wall funding several times in exchange for re-instating DACA (which the vast majority of American support) and he turned it down...remember the "shithole meeting"...
Are you lying or just stupid? It was Trump who offered to allow the Dreamers to stay in return for funding for the wall, but the Democrats turned him down.

WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump pressed for action on immigration Thursday, saying the country's system has failed Americans and pressing for his wall on the southern border.

Any legislation to address the residency status of "Dreamers," currently in limbo, "must secure the border with a wall," the president said, flanked by Republican senators who came to the White House for a meeting on immigration.


"We’d love to take care of DACA, but we’re only going to do it under these conditions," he concluded, laying down a red line as Congress gears up for yet another round of fights to fund the government.

Trump: Give me the wall, I'll give you 'Dreamers'
That's the deal?

Fund the wall and maybe some time later...You get DACA...or maybe not?

From a guy who had already twice renegged on a deal that was a straight up right now swap?

Bullshit

Pelosi and Schumer put DACA ON THE TABLE in direct exchange for Wall Funding you friggin ijits...and Trump PISSED on it in the "Shithole Summit"

Or did you forget about that already.

And THAT was after they had agreed to a deal with Trump in September...month prior to that.
You are misinformed. The Democrats never offered funding for the wall. You have the situation backwards. Trump offered them a package, the funding for the wall in exchange for allowing the Dreamers to stay and have a path to citizenship, and the Democrats turned it down. That's why you haven't heard the Democrats talking about the Dreamers since the beginning of the year, because they abandoned them rather than cooperate with the President.

You are misinformed. The Democrats never offered funding for the wall.

SCHUMER: I put 'the wall' on the table in my meeting with Trump, but he backed out of the deal
Schumer was only trying to avoid blame for a possible government shutdown. Trump had already offered to allow the dreamers to stay in return for funding for the wall and the Democrats had turned him down.

Sure.
Nice link.

That's not how it went down at all.

It seems Trump couldn't make a deal with anyone.

Schumer has rescinded offer to Trump on border wall funding


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...9b2ad8-7960-11e8-80be-6d32e182a3bc_story.html
 
Are you lying or just stupid? It was Trump who offered to allow the Dreamers to stay in return for funding for the wall, but the Democrats turned him down.

WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump pressed for action on immigration Thursday, saying the country's system has failed Americans and pressing for his wall on the southern border.

Any legislation to address the residency status of "Dreamers," currently in limbo, "must secure the border with a wall," the president said, flanked by Republican senators who came to the White House for a meeting on immigration.


"We’d love to take care of DACA, but we’re only going to do it under these conditions," he concluded, laying down a red line as Congress gears up for yet another round of fights to fund the government.

Trump: Give me the wall, I'll give you 'Dreamers'
That's the deal?

Fund the wall and maybe some time later...You get DACA...or maybe not?

From a guy who had already twice renegged on a deal that was a straight up right now swap?

Bullshit

Pelosi and Schumer put DACA ON THE TABLE in direct exchange for Wall Funding you friggin ijits...and Trump PISSED on it in the "Shithole Summit"

Or did you forget about that already.

And THAT was after they had agreed to a deal with Trump in September...month prior to that.
You are misinformed. The Democrats never offered funding for the wall. You have the situation backwards. Trump offered them a package, the funding for the wall in exchange for allowing the Dreamers to stay and have a path to citizenship, and the Democrats turned it down. That's why you haven't heard the Democrats talking about the Dreamers since the beginning of the year, because they abandoned them rather than cooperate with the President.

You are misinformed. The Democrats never offered funding for the wall.

SCHUMER: I put 'the wall' on the table in my meeting with Trump, but he backed out of the deal
Schumer was only trying to avoid blame for a possible government shutdown. Trump had already offered to allow the dreamers to stay in return for funding for the wall and the Democrats had turned him down.

Sure.
Nice link.

That's not how it went down at all.

It seems Trump couldn't make a deal with anyone.

Schumer has rescinded offer to Trump on border wall funding


House rejects immigration bill pushed by Trump in last-minute tweet
Scumer is full of shit. The President made his offer in his State of the Union address and it still stands:

Here are the four pillars of our plan:

The first pillar of our framework generously offers a path to citizenship for 1.8 million illegal immigrants who were brought here by their parents at a young age — that covers almost three times more people than the previous administration. Under our plan, those who meet education and work requirements, and show good moral character, will be able to become full citizens of the United States.

The second pillar fully secures the border. That means building a wall on the Southern border, and it means hiring more heroes like CJ to keep our communities safe. Crucially, our plan closes the terrible loopholes exploited by criminals and terrorists to enter our country — and it finally ends the dangerous practice of “catch and release.”

The third pillar ends the visa lottery — a program that randomly hands out green cards without any regard for skill, merit, or the safety of our people. It is time to begin moving towards a merit-based immigration system — one that admits people who are skilled, who want to work, who will contribute to our society, and who will love and respect our country.

The fourth and final pillar protects the nuclear family by ending chain migration. Under the current broken system, a single immigrant can bring in virtually unlimited numbers of distant relatives. Under our plan, we focus on the immediate family by limiting sponsorships to spouses and minor children. This vital reform is necessary, not just for our economy, but for our security, and our future.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trumps-state-union-address/

If the Democrats gave a shit about the Dreamers they would have taken him up on it.
 
That's the deal?

Fund the wall and maybe some time later...You get DACA...or maybe not?

From a guy who had already twice renegged on a deal that was a straight up right now swap?

Bullshit

Pelosi and Schumer put DACA ON THE TABLE in direct exchange for Wall Funding you friggin ijits...and Trump PISSED on it in the "Shithole Summit"

Or did you forget about that already.

And THAT was after they had agreed to a deal with Trump in September...month prior to that.
You are misinformed. The Democrats never offered funding for the wall. You have the situation backwards. Trump offered them a package, the funding for the wall in exchange for allowing the Dreamers to stay and have a path to citizenship, and the Democrats turned it down. That's why you haven't heard the Democrats talking about the Dreamers since the beginning of the year, because they abandoned them rather than cooperate with the President.

You are misinformed. The Democrats never offered funding for the wall.

SCHUMER: I put 'the wall' on the table in my meeting with Trump, but he backed out of the deal
Schumer was only trying to avoid blame for a possible government shutdown. Trump had already offered to allow the dreamers to stay in return for funding for the wall and the Democrats had turned him down.

Sure.
Nice link.
lol That was from your link, didn't you read it? Schumer only made that claim after he was accused of shutting down the government for political reasons.

While Schumer claims to have made his offer in private talks only when he was accused of trying to shut down the government, the President had made his offer to allow the dreamers to stay in his State of the Union address:

Here are the four pillars of our plan:

The first pillar of our framework generously offers a path to citizenship for 1.8 million illegal immigrants who were brought here by their parents at a young age — that covers almost three times more people than the previous administration. Under our plan, those who meet education and work requirements, and show good moral character, will be able to become full citizens of the United States.

The second pillar fully secures the border. That means building a wall on the Southern border, and it means hiring more heroes like CJ to keep our communities safe. Crucially, our plan closes the terrible loopholes exploited by criminals and terrorists to enter our country — and it finally ends the dangerous practice of “catch and release.”

The third pillar ends the visa lottery — a program that randomly hands out green cards without any regard for skill, merit, or the safety of our people. It is time to begin moving towards a merit-based immigration system — one that admits people who are skilled, who want to work, who will contribute to our society, and who will love and respect our country.

The fourth and final pillar protects the nuclear family by ending chain migration. Under the current broken system, a single immigrant can bring in virtually unlimited numbers of distant relatives. Under our plan, we focus on the immediate family by limiting sponsorships to spouses and minor children. This vital reform is necessary, not just for our economy, but for our security, and our future.

President Donald J. Trump's State of the Union Address | The White House

lol That was from your link, didn't you read it?
Of course I read it. Did you?
It certainly says that he did indeed offer funding for a wall and it says nothing about him only doing it to avoid responsibility for a shutdown as you suggested.
 
From Politico

"The thought was that we could come to an agreement that afternoon, the president would announce his support, and the Senate and the House would get it done and it would be on the president’s desk," Schumer said Tuesday. "He didn’t do that. So we’re going to have to start on a new basis and so the wall offer is off the table."

In the now-famous cheeseburger summit last Friday with Trump, Schumer offered a large increase in border wall spending as a condition for a broader deal to help Dreamers. But after that offer was rebuffed — prompting the three-day government shutdown — the president has now “missed an opportunity to get the wall,” one Democratic aide said.

That was the "Cheeseburger Summit" in which Trump refused Wall funding
Of course this is just bullshit. Trump made his offer in his State of the Union address and the Democrats turned it down and have stopped talking about the dreamers since because they have abandoned them.
Nothing you have posted supports that narrative.

Trump couldn't even make a deal with republicans.
 
That's the deal?

Fund the wall and maybe some time later...You get DACA...or maybe not?

From a guy who had already twice renegged on a deal that was a straight up right now swap?

Bullshit

Pelosi and Schumer put DACA ON THE TABLE in direct exchange for Wall Funding you friggin ijits...and Trump PISSED on it in the "Shithole Summit"

Or did you forget about that already.

And THAT was after they had agreed to a deal with Trump in September...month prior to that.
You are misinformed. The Democrats never offered funding for the wall. You have the situation backwards. Trump offered them a package, the funding for the wall in exchange for allowing the Dreamers to stay and have a path to citizenship, and the Democrats turned it down. That's why you haven't heard the Democrats talking about the Dreamers since the beginning of the year, because they abandoned them rather than cooperate with the President.

You are misinformed. The Democrats never offered funding for the wall.

SCHUMER: I put 'the wall' on the table in my meeting with Trump, but he backed out of the deal
Schumer was only trying to avoid blame for a possible government shutdown. Trump had already offered to allow the dreamers to stay in return for funding for the wall and the Democrats had turned him down.

Sure.
Nice link.

That's not how it went down at all.

It seems Trump couldn't make a deal with anyone.

Schumer has rescinded offer to Trump on border wall funding


House rejects immigration bill pushed by Trump in last-minute tweet
Scumer is full of shit. The President made his offer in his State of the Union address and it still stands:

Here are the four pillars of our plan:

The first pillar of our framework generously offers a path to citizenship for 1.8 million illegal immigrants who were brought here by their parents at a young age — that covers almost three times more people than the previous administration. Under our plan, those who meet education and work requirements, and show good moral character, will be able to become full citizens of the United States.

The second pillar fully secures the border. That means building a wall on the Southern border, and it means hiring more heroes like CJ to keep our communities safe. Crucially, our plan closes the terrible loopholes exploited by criminals and terrorists to enter our country — and it finally ends the dangerous practice of “catch and release.”

The third pillar ends the visa lottery — a program that randomly hands out green cards without any regard for skill, merit, or the safety of our people. It is time to begin moving towards a merit-based immigration system — one that admits people who are skilled, who want to work, who will contribute to our society, and who will love and respect our country.

The fourth and final pillar protects the nuclear family by ending chain migration. Under the current broken system, a single immigrant can bring in virtually unlimited numbers of distant relatives. Under our plan, we focus on the immediate family by limiting sponsorships to spouses and minor children. This vital reform is necessary, not just for our economy, but for our security, and our future.

President Donald J. Trump's State of the Union Address | The White House

If the Democrats gave a shit about the Dreamers they would have taken him up on it.

No. You're full of shit.
 
From Politico

"The thought was that we could come to an agreement that afternoon, the president would announce his support, and the Senate and the House would get it done and it would be on the president’s desk," Schumer said Tuesday. "He didn’t do that. So we’re going to have to start on a new basis and so the wall offer is off the table."

In the now-famous cheeseburger summit last Friday with Trump, Schumer offered a large increase in border wall spending as a condition for a broader deal to help Dreamers. But after that offer was rebuffed — prompting the three-day government shutdown — the president has now “missed an opportunity to get the wall,” one Democratic aide said.

That was the "Cheeseburger Summit" in which Trump refused Wall funding
Of course this is just bullshit. Trump made his offer in his State of the Union address and the Democrats turned it down and have stopped talking about the dreamers since because they have abandoned them.
Nothing you have posted supports that narrative.

Trump couldn't even make a deal with republicans.


THat establishment republicans are open border scum is no secret. Are you pretending to be ignorant?
 
From Politico

"The thought was that we could come to an agreement that afternoon, the president would announce his support, and the Senate and the House would get it done and it would be on the president’s desk," Schumer said Tuesday. "He didn’t do that. So we’re going to have to start on a new basis and so the wall offer is off the table."

In the now-famous cheeseburger summit last Friday with Trump, Schumer offered a large increase in border wall spending as a condition for a broader deal to help Dreamers. But after that offer was rebuffed — prompting the three-day government shutdown — the president has now “missed an opportunity to get the wall,” one Democratic aide said.

That was the "Cheeseburger Summit" in which Trump refused Wall funding
Of course this is just bullshit. Trump made his offer in his State of the Union address and the Democrats turned it down and have stopped talking about the dreamers since because they have abandoned them.
Nothing you have posted supports that narrative.

Trump couldn't even make a deal with republicans.
Here's Trump's offer from his State of the Union address:

Here are the four pillars of our plan:

The first pillar of our framework generously offers a path to citizenship for 1.8 million illegal immigrants who were brought here by their parents at a young age — that covers almost three times more people than the previous administration. Under our plan, those who meet education and work requirements, and show good moral character, will be able to become full citizens of the United States.

The second pillar fully secures the border. That means building a wall on the Southern border, and it means hiring more heroes like CJ to keep our communities safe. Crucially, our plan closes the terrible loopholes exploited by criminals and terrorists to enter our country — and it finally ends the dangerous practice of “catch and release.”

The third pillar ends the visa lottery — a program that randomly hands out green cards without any regard for skill, merit, or the safety of our people. It is time to begin moving towards a merit-based immigration system — one that admits people who are skilled, who want to work, who will contribute to our society, and who will love and respect our country.

The fourth and final pillar protects the nuclear family by ending chain migration. Under the current broken system, a single immigrant can bring in virtually unlimited numbers of distant relatives. Under our plan, we focus on the immediate family by limiting sponsorships to spouses and minor children. This vital reform is necessary, not just for our economy, but for our security, and our future.

President Donald J. Trump's State of the Union Address | The White House

If you can read, it shows that Schumer is full of shit.
 

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