The slow ethnic cleansing of Palestine.

I don't think that comparing a tiny state physically and population wise is good statistical validation...Israel's strenth and standard of living has been helped by World Jewry like no nation before...Israeli production of technology is dependant on world-wide consumption far from her borders...her products of tecnology would be useles if UN sanctions ever go into effect. This is not far-fetched when EU is already discussing tiny hints of sanctions if they do not withdraw from the West Bank...

You're allowed to be dumb. :lol:


Israel: $200 Billion Gross Domestic Product. 40th Largest Economy In The World. 30th Highest Per Capita Income In The World


KPMG: Israel Spreading Its Wings, Growing Internationally
Israel has a dynamic, technologically advanced market economy, with a GDP of approximately US$200 billion. Over the past five years, GDP has grown by an average of five percent annually, while inflation has been near zero and the Israeli Shekel has remained stable versus the US Dollar. The Bank of Israel's interest rate is at a record low, at 0.5 percent, and is among the lowest in the world. Raw materials (excluding diamonds and fuels), constitute 40 percent of total imports, while manufacturing (low-to-high technology products and services), constitutes 87 percent of total exports. In addition, there are more Israeli-domiciled companies traded on NASDAQ (currently 63) than in any country outside the US.

The country's entrepreneurial and competitive environment is underpinned by a number of cultural and social factors. Education is one of the key drivers with high numbers of science and engineering students graduating each year - Israel boasts a ratio of 135 scientists per 100,000 workers, the highest in the world

In the 1990s, following the successful establishment of Yozma, one of Israel's first venture capital (VC) programs, nearly 100 VC firms have been established, using foreign and local investment capital, to help catapult the creation and expansion of a large number of high technology companies. Approximately US$9.4 billion of capital was invested from these sources between 1993 and 2000. In all, approximately US$4.2 billion of capital has been invested in Israeli private equity firms KPMG - April 2011 - frontiers in finance: Spreading its wings

Geezum - do you realize that nothing you just posted has a thing to do with what I said?

Please, reconsider your definition of "dumb" and see if you can post something that actually addresses the points made in the post.

Inequality - specifically income inequality as well as attitudes, building permits etc etc. that have NOTHING TO DO with Israels GDP.

Reality Check...

The UN ranks Israel among the 17 best countries to live in (out of 170 countries) in the world and with the highest qualities of life and human development, emphasizing political and cultural freedom and equality in education, healthcare, life expectancy and income, ahead of the United Kingdom, Spain, Greece, Italy, Finland, Belgium, Denmark, Luxembourg and Austria

Indices & Data | Human Development Reports (HDR) | United Nations Development Programme (UNDP)
Human Development is a development paradigm that is about much more than the rise or fall of national incomes. It is about creating an environment in which people can develop their full potential and lead productive, creative lives in accord with their needs and interests. People are the real wealth of nations. Development is thus about expanding the choices people have to lead lives that they value. And it is thus about much more than economic growth, which is only a means —if a very important one —of enlarging people’s choices.

Fundamental to enlarging these choices is building human capabilities —the range of things that people can do or be in life. The most basic capabilities for human development are to lead long and healthy lives, to be knowledgeable, to have access to the resources needed for a decent standard of living and to be able to participate in the life of the community. Without these, many choices are simply not available, and many opportunities in life remain inaccessible.
 
You're allowed to be dumb. :lol:


Israel: $200 Billion Gross Domestic Product. 40th Largest Economy In The World. 30th Highest Per Capita Income In The World


KPMG: Israel Spreading Its Wings, Growing Internationally

Geezum - do you realize that nothing you just posted has a thing to do with what I said?

Please, reconsider your definition of "dumb" and see if you can post something that actually addresses the points made in the post.

Inequality - specifically income inequality as well as attitudes, building permits etc etc. that have NOTHING TO DO with Israels GDP.

Reality Check...

The UN ranks Israel among the 17 best countries to live in (out of 170 countries) in the world and with the highest qualities of life and human development, emphasizing political and cultural freedom and equality in education, healthcare, life expectancy and income, ahead of the United Kingdom, Spain, Greece, Italy, Finland, Belgium, Denmark, Luxembourg and Austria

Indices & Data | Human Development Reports (HDR) | United Nations Development Programme (UNDP)
Human Development is a development paradigm that is about much more than the rise or fall of national incomes. It is about creating an environment in which people can develop their full potential and lead productive, creative lives in accord with their needs and interests. People are the real wealth of nations. Development is thus about expanding the choices people have to lead lives that they value. And it is thus about much more than economic growth, which is only a means —if a very important one —of enlarging people’s choices.

Fundamental to enlarging these choices is building human capabilities —the range of things that people can do or be in life. The most basic capabilities for human development are to lead long and healthy lives, to be knowledgeable, to have access to the resources needed for a decent standard of living and to be able to participate in the life of the community. Without these, many choices are simply not available, and many opportunities in life remain inaccessible.

Sigh....which reality is it you are checking in with?

I already posted on the Human Development Indices and also included what you conveniently left out - the Indices where they adjust for inequality.:cuckoo:
 
Geezum - do you realize that nothing you just posted has a thing to do with what I said?

Please, reconsider your definition of "dumb" and see if you can post something that actually addresses the points made in the post.

Inequality - specifically income inequality as well as attitudes, building permits etc etc. that have NOTHING TO DO with Israels GDP.

Reality Check...

The UN ranks Israel among the 17 best countries to live in (out of 170 countries) in the world and with the highest qualities of life and human development, emphasizing political and cultural freedom and equality in education, healthcare, life expectancy and income, ahead of the United Kingdom, Spain, Greece, Italy, Finland, Belgium, Denmark, Luxembourg and Austria

Indices & Data | Human Development Reports (HDR) | United Nations Development Programme (UNDP)
Human Development is a development paradigm that is about much more than the rise or fall of national incomes. It is about creating an environment in which people can develop their full potential and lead productive, creative lives in accord with their needs and interests. People are the real wealth of nations. Development is thus about expanding the choices people have to lead lives that they value. And it is thus about much more than economic growth, which is only a means —if a very important one —of enlarging people’s choices.

Fundamental to enlarging these choices is building human capabilities —the range of things that people can do or be in life. The most basic capabilities for human development are to lead long and healthy lives, to be knowledgeable, to have access to the resources needed for a decent standard of living and to be able to participate in the life of the community. Without these, many choices are simply not available, and many opportunities in life remain inaccessible.

Sigh....which reality is it you are checking in with?

I already posted on the Human Development Indices and also included what you conveniently left out - the Indices where they adjust for inequality.:cuckoo:

Yah, the UN is known for being rabidly pro-Israel and anti-Arab :lol:

Thanks for the snicker.
 
Reality Check...

The UN ranks Israel among the 17 best countries to live in (out of 170 countries) in the world and with the highest qualities of life and human development, emphasizing political and cultural freedom and equality in education, healthcare, life expectancy and income, ahead of the United Kingdom, Spain, Greece, Italy, Finland, Belgium, Denmark, Luxembourg and Austria

Indices & Data | Human Development Reports (HDR) | United Nations Development Programme (UNDP)

Sigh....which reality is it you are checking in with?

I already posted on the Human Development Indices and also included what you conveniently left out - the Indices where they adjust for inequality.:cuckoo:

Yah, the UN is known for being rabidly pro-Israel and anti-Arab :lol:

Thanks for the snicker.

So...what exactly do you mean? The "good" UN report you crow about or the "bad" UN report you ignore?:cuckoo:
 
Sigh....which reality is it you are checking in with?

I already posted on the Human Development Indices and also included what you conveniently left out - the Indices where they adjust for inequality.:cuckoo:

Yah, the UN is known for being rabidly pro-Israel and anti-Arab :lol:

Thanks for the snicker.

So...what exactly do you mean? The "good" UN report you crow about or the "bad" UN report you ignore?:cuckoo:

The report the UN released in which Israel is the #17 best country in which to live based in large part on equality.
 
Yah, the UN is known for being rabidly pro-Israel and anti-Arab :lol:

Thanks for the snicker.

So...what exactly do you mean? The "good" UN report you crow about or the "bad" UN report you ignore?:cuckoo:

The report the UN released in which Israel is the #17 best country in which to live based in large part on equality.

Which is the SAME report as the one that included the same index with inequality factored in - which changed Israel's ranking. You can't pick and choose to suit your agenda.
 
So...what exactly do you mean? The "good" UN report you crow about or the "bad" UN report you ignore?:cuckoo:

The report the UN released in which Israel is the #17 best country in which to live based in large part on equality.

Which is the SAME report as the one that included the same index with inequality factored in - which changed Israel's ranking. You can't pick and choose to suit your agenda.

With inequality factored in, the US falls significantly from #4 to #23; Israel more modestly from #17 to #25. Israel is nearly equal with the US and ahead of 175 other countries.

All in all, Israel remains a wonderful place in which to live.
 
The report the UN released in which Israel is the #17 best country in which to live based in large part on equality.

Which is the SAME report as the one that included the same index with inequality factored in - which changed Israel's ranking. You can't pick and choose to suit your agenda.

With inequality factored in, the US falls significantly from #4 to #23; Israel more modestly from #17 to #25. Israel is nearly equal with the US and ahead of 175 other countries.

All in all, Israel remains a wonderful place in which to live.

Arghhh...that is exactly what I already posted.

Israel is by far the best country in the ME to live in - but - BUT - that doesn't excuse the very real inequalities, prejudices and injustices that go on. In the 1950's we had segregation - seperate but equal. We also had one of the highest quality of living of any country. Does that somehow make the segregation ok?
 
Which is the SAME report as the one that included the same index with inequality factored in - which changed Israel's ranking. You can't pick and choose to suit your agenda.

With inequality factored in, the US falls significantly from #4 to #23; Israel more modestly from #17 to #25. Israel is nearly equal with the US and ahead of 175 other countries.

All in all, Israel remains a wonderful place in which to live.

Arghhh...that is exactly what I already posted.

Israel is by far the best country in the ME to live in - but - BUT - that doesn't excuse the very real inequalities, prejudices and injustices that go on. In the 1950's we had segregation - seperate but equal. We also had one of the highest quality of living of any country. Does that somehow make the segregation ok?

Israel is ahead of the UK and almost equal with the US in terms of the best places in which to live. Nicely done, Israel.

Harvard University's Kennedy School of Gov't found that nearly 8 out of 10 Israeli Arabs prefer living in Israel than any ther country in the world, including Arab countries.

Harvard Kennedy School - New Study Finds Strong Jewish and Arab Consensus for Peaceful Coexistence in Israel
 
With inequality factored in, the US falls significantly from #4 to #23; Israel more modestly from #17 to #25. Israel is nearly equal with the US and ahead of 175 other countries.

All in all, Israel remains a wonderful place in which to live.

Arghhh...that is exactly what I already posted.

Israel is by far the best country in the ME to live in - but - BUT - that doesn't excuse the very real inequalities, prejudices and injustices that go on. In the 1950's we had segregation - seperate but equal. We also had one of the highest quality of living of any country. Does that somehow make the segregation ok?

Israel is ahead of the UK and almost equal with the US in terms of the best places in which to live. Nicely done, Israel.

Harvard University's Kennedy School of Gov't found that nearly 8 out of 10 Israeli Arabs prefer living in Israel than any ther country in the world, including Arab countries.

Harvard Kennedy School - New Study Finds Strong Jewish and Arab Consensus for Peaceful Coexistence in Israel

That is a great article - thanks for posting it, it provides some optimism for the future.

Did you note what it said?

According to Alan Slifka, a philanthropist who has funded many grassroots coexistence projects in Israel, and whose foundation funded the study: “This report supports what we have long suspected –unity among Israel’s Jewish and Arab communities is not only attainable, but there is great public support for it. The critical next step is for Israeli policy makers to bring about the structural changes that the Jewish and Arab publics support, to reshape the educational, income, residential, and other divides that undermine national unity.”

Pittinsky notes that, “A change in Jewish-Arab relations within Israel could help form the grassroots platform to support shifts from regional conflict toward regional cooperation between Arab and Jews. Improving the equality and constructive engagement of Israel’s Jewish and Arab citizens may help create a ripple effect that will spread, including the course of the relations of not only Jews and Arabs in Israel, but the Middle East more broadly.”
 
Arghhh...that is exactly what I already posted.

Israel is by far the best country in the ME to live in - but - BUT - that doesn't excuse the very real inequalities, prejudices and injustices that go on. In the 1950's we had segregation - seperate but equal. We also had one of the highest quality of living of any country. Does that somehow make the segregation ok?

Israel is ahead of the UK and almost equal with the US in terms of the best places in which to live. Nicely done, Israel.

Harvard University's Kennedy School of Gov't found that nearly 8 out of 10 Israeli Arabs prefer living in Israel than any ther country in the world, including Arab countries.

Harvard Kennedy School - New Study Finds Strong Jewish and Arab Consensus for Peaceful Coexistence in Israel

That is a great article - thanks for posting it, it provides some optimism for the future.

Did you note what it said?

According to Alan Slifka, a philanthropist who has funded many grassroots coexistence projects in Israel, and whose foundation funded the study: “This report supports what we have long suspected –unity among Israel’s Jewish and Arab communities is not only attainable, but there is great public support for it. The critical next step is for Israeli policy makers to bring about the structural changes that the Jewish and Arab publics support, to reshape the educational, income, residential, and other divides that undermine national unity.”

Pittinsky notes that, “A change in Jewish-Arab relations within Israel could help form the grassroots platform to support shifts from regional conflict toward regional cooperation between Arab and Jews. Improving the equality and constructive engagement of Israel’s Jewish and Arab citizens may help create a ripple effect that will spread, including the course of the relations of not only Jews and Arabs in Israel, but the Middle East more broadly.”

8 out of 10 Israeli Arabs prefer Israel to any other country in the world including Arab countries. Israel is doing just fine.
 
There are still Jews in Palestine, as well as Muslims and Druze. Everything was going fine until the Zionists arrived from Europe and the US and launched an invasions, complete with the importation of settlers and a series a campaign of terror and murder to subjugate the local population.

Palestine is Israel. Palestine is a fake English name the British called Israel. Palestine ceased to exist with Israeli statehood in 1948.

Let me google that for you

I have no problem with Semites. If I were an antisemite, why would I sympathize with the plight of Palestinian children and call for an end to the Zionist occupation, ghettoization, and ethnic cleansing and the (largely Arab) Palestinians?

sem·ite

/ˈsemīt/
Noun
A member of any of the peoples who speak or spoke a Semitic language, including in particular the Jews and Arabs.
Who do you think you're fooling, you illiterate, ignorant, FUCKWAD?

an·ti-Sem·ite [an-tee-sem-ahyt, an-tahy- or, esp. British, -see-mahyt] Show IPA
noun
a person who discriminates against or is prejudiced or hostile toward Jews.
Origin:
1880–85
Anti- against
Semite- a semite

Claiming antisemitism is anti-judaism is a political tactic akin to claiming supporting a woman's right to choose in the first trimester is supporting genocide against the blacks. Antisemites are necessarily opposed to (ethnic) Jews, but not all anti-Jews or anti-Zionists take issue with the Semitic race more broadly.

One can hate the Irish yet have no problem with the rest of Europe.




. I don't dispute that historically, the Jews have been treated like shit and not just from Islams or even the worst by Islam.

Then they shouldn't be Jews and declare themselves the superior race

You're allowed to be uneducated: Judaism is a religion, not a race. There are Ethiopian Jews living in Israel, for example.

Actually it's a bit of both. It's a religion defined through the mother's bloodlines for the most part, conversion is rare and there is no proselytizing. Even though there are Ethiopian Jews (which is a fascinating look at the extent of the diaspora) - they are not well accepted as "Jews" in Israel, there is controversy.
Judaism has always been tied to concepts of race, from the days of the twelve tribes and many OT laws. Many Zionists still have their own conception of a 'Jewish Race', and this is a source of contention within their ranks.

[ame="http://www.amazon.com/Invention-Jewish-People-Shlomo-Sand/dp/1844676234"]The Invention of the Jewish People: Shlomo Sand, Yael Lotan: 9781844676231: Amazon.com: Books[/ame]

Israel ceased to exist thousands of years ago and was recreated. It's as fake as Palestine if you stop and consider it.
Or any other State as such...


Those accusing me of lumping all Jews should see my repeated references to True Torah Jews Against Zionism


"themselves the superior race tasked with slaughtering unbelievers"

The Jews are hated because of scumbegs who say things such as the above.
Read the parts of their holy book about retaking Canaan, inter-tribal (inter-ethnic) marriage, and killing unbelievers, witches, and just about everyone else.

This is what they believe; it's the foundation of their religion. You cannot reject the book and be a (religious, as opposed to ethnic) Jew


And there is no F in Vietnam. Just one of those things.

So-called palestinians, who are Arabs, cannot even write their fake, invented identity in their own Arabic language since there is no letter p. :lol:

You think that is funny, ask a German where he lives.
Where did we get the word 'German(y) from? It sounds nothing like what they call themselves

:dunno:


You realize that a quarter of Israel's population are Arab Muslims, which have the same exact rights as other Israelis. So Jews have fulfilled their share of the mandate by far. Meanwhile the Arab Muslims expelled, killed, and stole from Jewish communities that had lived among them for thousands of years. In other words the real ethnic cleansing occurred on the Muslim side.

Racism in Israel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

New Israeli racist laws

Israel citizenship ruling slammed as 'racist' - Telegraph

They only recently changed the ID laws
 
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Israel is ahead of the UK and almost equal with the US in terms of the best places in which to live. Nicely done, Israel.

Harvard University's Kennedy School of Gov't found that nearly 8 out of 10 Israeli Arabs prefer living in Israel than any ther country in the world, including Arab countries.

Harvard Kennedy School - New Study Finds Strong Jewish and Arab Consensus for Peaceful Coexistence in Israel

That is a great article - thanks for posting it, it provides some optimism for the future.

Did you note what it said?

According to Alan Slifka, a philanthropist who has funded many grassroots coexistence projects in Israel, and whose foundation funded the study: “This report supports what we have long suspected –unity among Israel’s Jewish and Arab communities is not only attainable, but there is great public support for it. The critical next step is for Israeli policy makers to bring about the structural changes that the Jewish and Arab publics support, to reshape the educational, income, residential, and other divides that undermine national unity.”

Pittinsky notes that, “A change in Jewish-Arab relations within Israel could help form the grassroots platform to support shifts from regional conflict toward regional cooperation between Arab and Jews. Improving the equality and constructive engagement of Israel’s Jewish and Arab citizens may help create a ripple effect that will spread, including the course of the relations of not only Jews and Arabs in Israel, but the Middle East more broadly.”

8 out of 10 Israeli Arabs prefer Israel to any other country in the world including Arab countries. Israel is doing just fine.

And again, you utterly ignore the points....:cuckoo:


(note - even during Jim Crowe there was no mass migration of blacks out of America)
 
That is a great article - thanks for posting it, it provides some optimism for the future.

Did you note what it said?

8 out of 10 Israeli Arabs prefer Israel to any other country in the world including Arab countries. Israel is doing just fine.

And again, you utterly ignore the points....:cuckoo:


(note - even during Jim Crowe there was no mass migration of blacks out of America)

Nearly 60 of Black Americans feel they are treated with inequality, based on a survey. Maybe, best to stick your nose out of Israel's business and place it in America's business.
 
British Muslims For Israel...
Here at BMFI, we do not believe the Arab-Israeli conflict is a war over land or religion, but it is a clash of ideas. Israel, as a Western liberal democracy, extends equal rights to all of its citizens, regardless of religion or race. Muslims have more rights in Israel than in any other country in the Middle East.

While Egypt guns down Sudanese refugees fleeing the murderous oppression of their government, Israel gives them home and shelter; while Lebanon denies Palestinian refugees access to healthcare, Israel provides emergency treatment for the residents of the West Bank and Gaza strip; while Syria keeps the Palestinians in refugee camps and sporadically slaughters them, Israel offered full citizenship to all its Palestinians after the Arab states attempted to destroy Israel and slaughter its Holocaust survivors in 1948.
http://www.britishmuslimsforisrael.com/BMFI/Welcome.html
 
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There are still Jews in Palestine, as well as Muslims and Druze. Everything was going fine until the Zionists arrived from Europe and the US and launched an invasions, complete with the importation of settlers and a series a campaign of terror and murder to subjugate the local population.

Palestine is Israel. Palestine is a fake English name the British called Israel. Palestine ceased to exist with Israeli statehood in 1948.

Let me google that for you


Anti- against
Semite- a semite

Claiming antisemitism is anti-judaism is a political tactic akin to claiming supporting a woman's right to choose in the first trimester is supporting genocide against the blacks. Antisemites are necessarily opposed to (ethnic) Jews, but not all anti-Jews or anti-Zionists take issue with the Semitic race more broadly.

One can hate the Irish yet have no problem with the rest of Europe.





Judaism has always been tied to concepts of race, from the days of the twelve tribes and many OT laws. Many Zionists still have their own conception of a 'Jewish Race', and this is a source of contention within their ranks.

[ame="http://www.amazon.com/Invention-Jewish-People-Shlomo-Sand/dp/1844676234"]The Invention of the Jewish People: Shlomo Sand, Yael Lotan: 9781844676231: Amazon.com: Books[/ame]


Or any other State as such...


Those accusing me of lumping all Jews should see my repeated references to True Torah Jews Against Zionism



Read the parts of their holy book about retaking Canaan, inter-tribal (inter-ethnic) marriage, and killing unbelievers, witches, and just about everyone else.

This is what they believe; it's the foundation of their religion. You cannot reject the book and be a (religious, as opposed to ethnic) Jew


You think that is funny, ask a German where he lives.
Where did we get the word 'German(y) from? It sounds nothing like what they call themselves

:shrug:


You realize that a quarter of Israel's population are Arab Muslims, which have the same exact rights as other Israelis. So Jews have fulfilled their share of the mandate by far. Meanwhile the Arab Muslims expelled, killed, and stole from Jewish communities that had lived among them for thousands of years. In other words the real ethnic cleansing occurred on the Muslim side.

Racism in Israel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

New Israeli racist laws

Israel citizenship ruling slammed as 'racist' - Telegraph

They only recently changed the ID laws
Great rally in the Bundeshalle tonight, eh?
 
8 out of 10 Israeli Arabs prefer Israel to any other country in the world including Arab countries. Israel is doing just fine.

And again, you utterly ignore the points....:cuckoo:


(note - even during Jim Crowe there was no mass migration of blacks out of America)

Nearly 60 of Black Americans feel they are treated with inequality, based on a survey. Maybe, best to stick your nose out of Israel's business and place it in America's business.

Yet there was no mass migration....so, even with the inequality, they preferred to live in America. Did you get to the part of the study where they asked the question about greater integration of arabs contributing to economy, culture and security?

From Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Israel#Polls

Another 2007 report, by the Center Against Racism, also found hostility against Arabs was on the rise. Among its findings it reported that 75%of Israeli Jews don't approve of Arabs and Jews sharing apartment buildings; that over half of Jews wouldn't want to have an Arab boss and that marrying an Arab amounts to "national treason"; and that 55% of the sample thought Arabs should be kept separate from Jews in entertainment sites. Half wanted the Israeli government to encourage Israeli Arabs to emigrate. About 40% believed Arab citizens should have their voting rights removed.[17]

A March 2010 poll by Tel Aviv University found that 49.5% of Israeli Jewish high school students believe Israeli Arabs should not be entitled to the same rights as Jews in Israel. 56% believe Arabs should not be eligible to the Knesset, the Israeli parliament.[18]

An October 2010 poll by the Dahaf polling agency found that 36% of Israeli Jews favor eliminating voting rights for non-Jews.[19] In recent polling (2003–2009) between 42% and 56% of Israelis agreed that "Israeli Arabs suffer from discrimination as opposed to Jewish citizens;" 80% of Israeli Arabs agreed with that statement in 2009.[20]
 
Martin Luther King, Jr...
Was a communist. Why is his love of the Judenstaat particularly relevant?

Nearly 60 of Black Americans feel they are treated with inequality, based on a survey. Maybe, best to stick your nose out of Israel's business and place it in America's business.

America's failures or imperfections excuse noone else's
 
Martin Luther King, Jr...
Was a communist. Why is his love of the Judenstaat particularly relevant?

Nearly 60 of Black Americans feel they are treated with inequality, based on a survey. Maybe, best to stick your nose out of Israel's business and place it in America's business.

America's failures or imperfections excuse noone else's

Judenstaat?:eusa_eh:

What does communism have to do with anything?
 

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