CDZ The Sickness In American Culture

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    I think you've hit at the core of the problem. Individual responsibility. I remember having discussions with my Grandfather years before he passed away. I was in awe as he told me about his life, about lying about his age at 16 so he could get a job working on the railroad. He and my Grandma raised three sons literally on pennies a day. They did everything they could to survive but my Grandfather refused "handouts" from the government or anyone else. He viewed that as the ultimate failure.

    He then got a better job at an oil refinery and often worked two shifts. He was nearly deaf from being around all the loud machinery all those years. But then he smiled at me and said "Mike after all that, your Grandma and I don't owe anybody a dime. This house is ours, the boys all have their own families and I can play all the golf I want."

    Your life is your responsibility. When you shift responsibility to someone else, you have lost. That is what my Grandfather taught me and I hope that is what I've passed on to my sons.
     
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    porn? so regulate the internet then, Stalin.
    Gay marriage makes strait people divorce?
    What stupid things to complain about
     
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    Did he say he was going to enforce those views with terror? Did you know that is what Islam does?
     
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    Agreed. No doubt there are a few reasons they're fine with it, and surely they know that denying/ignoring it enables and exacerbates it.

    Regardless of how ideology blinds, there's no way they don't see that.
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    Pseudo-intellectuals want to sell the myth that it's those grubby white proles who caused all the problems, and the neurotics and Burb Brats like the sound of it, as it exempts them from suffering the consequences. Or so they think it does; now that the 'middle class' jobs are also being outsourced and shipped off, they now think we should all cry over their losses, and still blame those Deplorables for everything. Mostly raced based class warfare on the part of the neo-liberals and idiots who think mindless hedonism and whining is a real political philosophy.

    Why pick on the Deplorables? Because it panders to pseudo-intellectual snobbery and bigotry, and they are the most patriotic and nationalistic demographic, a real pain in the ass to 'globalist' labor racketeering and Wall Street, and the Davos Set has no use for that sort of thing, and the media of course always panders to its pocket book, every day all day. They like being told they're 'intelligent n stuff' when they suck up to dumbass 'academicians' and billionaire types.
     
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    .... and that should be a surprise to me, why? I would guess it's probably in agreement with Judaism, Hinduism, and Buddhism, as well. Makes you think, doesn't it?

    Do YOU have a problem with the tenets of Islamic religion, or do you have a problem with those who pervert the religion?
     
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    Not lost ... sick. Not dead ... ailing.
     
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    I don't know if I buy that premise. In fact, I don't even know what you are talking about, with "corporate culture".

    You would have to explain that in more detail, because what I am guessing it refers to, sounds insane in my own mind.

    Beyond that I don't buy any "affluenza' claims. I've seen the poorest people, with poor parents, and poor relatives, that also showed all the same symptoms as boomers who have everything.

    It's a break down of the family, of morals, and a belief that something in this world, is bigger than yourself.

    When people can't see anything more important than themselves in this world..... then their world is really really tiny.
     
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    Regulating the internet is not going to get rid of porn.

    I doubt much of anything will.

    Regardless, porn destroys people and marriages, makes men impotent, and some men are so ruined by porn, that they actually can't have real sex anymore. Talk about the height of pathetic. Men so damaged by fake pictures and fantasies of non-existent girls, yanking on themselves like monkeys... they end up being unable to do things that a rodent can do.

    It's just really really sad.

    A year or two ago, I went to a suicide help page, and saw the posts on the forum. Most were men... and most of those were "I'm 30. I sit at home alone, watching porn, and hating my life".

    I was shocked by the shear number of posts that went that way. They never got a real woman, because they were too busy yanking on themselves and staring at photoshopped pictures in the dark.

    Where I work, a group of guys from another part of the company stopped in and started talking. Somehow this moronic topic came up, and they asked me what porn I watch....
    1. Who asks questions like that?
    2. Why would you assume that I watch porn?
    3. Don't you have any better, more worth while questions to ask in your life?

    I told them none. I have never watched a porno, never bought a dirty magazine, never gone to a porn site, never downloaded videos, or pictures off the internet. They looked at me like I was crazy, laughed, and called me a liar. Which I found absolutely hilarious, and at the same time insane. Really? You people have nothing better to do with your time? Seriously? Ugh..... no wonder this nation is breaking apart.

    Even more pathetic.... each and every single one of the guys that was asking me these moronic questions.... was single.... lonely... and miserable. One, just a week before "I keep waiting to find a girl!....." No wonder you can't find one. Yanking on yourself all night... who wants to marry that? Mid-30s, engineering degree, six-figure income, owns his own house... and he live all alone, all by himself, looking at his dumb pictures at night.

    ... can't fix stupid....
     
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    "In the social production of their existence, men inevitably enter into definite relations, which are independent of their will, namely relations of production appropriate to a given stage in the development of their material forces of production. The totality of these relations of production constitutes the economic structure of society, the real foundation, on which arises a legal and political superstructure and to which correspond definite forms of social consciousness. The mode of production of material life conditions the general process of social, political and intellectual life. It is not the consciousness of men that determines their existence, but their social existence that determines their consciousness."
     

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