CDZ The Sickness In American Culture

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    People don't like to talk about America's culture for the same reason that a man who just had a heart attack doesn't want to discuss the double bacon cheeseburger he's eating. He knows what he's doing is killing him, but it's easier not to deal with it. We’re in the same boat.

    * We treat success as an accident or a cheat while defending people who make bad decisions, who won't educate themselves or who won't work.

    * We've allowed pornography to become so accessible that it's practically universally viewed, even among teenagers.

    * We love victims so much that people actually fake hate crimes to claim victim status.

    * We celebrate losers and deviants by giving them their own reality shows. Meanwhile, Hollywood regularly portrays businessmen, Christians and soldiers as the worst people on earth.

    * More children have died because of Roe v. Wade than were killed during the Holocaust.

    * Marriage is falling apart and we’re encouraging that by pushing gay marriage.

    * Our universities reward Communists, terrorists and blatant anti-American sentiment with professorships. Those are the last people who should be teaching impressionable young Americans.

    * There's a whole grievance industry full of people who make a living claiming to be "offended" by things.

    * Religion and morality are denigrated while nihilism and immorality are considered cool.

    * Legalism has superseded morality and what's "right" and "wrong" has become secondary to what's "legal" and "illegal."

    * We're the greatest, most powerful, most prosperous and most virtuous nation that has ever existed and despite all of that, we obsess over our nations faults instead of our achievements.

    * Americans across the spectrum are being encouraged to separate themselves off from the larger culture and nurse grievances that barely would have been given a thought a few decades ago.

    Yet, we're told that we shouldn't worry about any of these things because people have always worried about our culture and things have turned out just fine. Even if that's so, have you ever considered the possibility that worrying about the culture and taking steps to keep it from getting out of hand is exactly what once kept it from going to the dogs?

    John Hawkins - The Real Sickness At The Heart Of American Culture
     
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    Much of your post is in agreement with Islamic beliefs. Did you know that?
     
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    not trying to make an insult but isn't this liberal culture not American culture.
    guess you can say that they control more than conservative culture but still I don't like painting all of American culture as already lost.
    perhaps I'm wrong?
     
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    So what? You say that, as if that matters.
     
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    I'm confused by your post. Isn't this liberal culture, not American culture. What does that mean?

    I would suggest that American culture is lost. Now that doesn't mean it can't be redeemed, but right now it is in fact, very lost.

    People are acting crazy, ending up with terrible lives, and trying to blame everyone else for the misery they feel.

    And to some extent, I understand this, because they have been told all their lives, that anything goes and you can do what you want.

    And while that is in fact true..... Being able to do what you want, doesn't mean there are no consequences.

    Years ago, I had a roommate that was over 400 lbs. One day... (I am not making this up).... they came home with two chocolate cakes. They explained that they went to one store, and saw a chocolate cake. They decided they needed this chocolate cake. Then after they were done shopping there, they went to another store, and saw ANOTHER chocolate cake. They decided to buy that chocolate cake too....... that way they could eat them both.... and know in the future which store had a better chocolate cake.

    Fast forward 3 years. I stopped at a restaurant to eat, and there they were. We sat together and talked.... apparently they have diabetes now. SHOCKING.....

    What is my point? People today have no connection between actions and consequences.

    They are self-centered, and have lost connection to family, friends, spouses. They demand what they want, and don't care about anyone else.

    Doesn't matter if I have a penis... if I 'identify' as a girl, then I'm going into the girls rest room. What do the girls think? Doesn't matter. What I want, is what I should have.

    Then they wonder why they are isolated, lonely, and LGBTQ people have the highest rates of suicide in the country. But it can't be because of their choices, it's because of society somehow.

    And it's not a gay thing either. That's just the most obvious example. You look at relationships, and you see people screwing around, from person to person to person, and then they can't hold any relationship together. Wonder why? You see people marry, divorce, and remarry... only to divorce again.... wonder why?

    I see people wasting their lives away on video games, drugs, alcohol, parties.... and they are 40 years old, act like they are 20, and have nothing to show for their existence.

    Had a co-worker that is throwing their life away. Literally. Drinks himself drunk. Doesn't show up to work. Has a beautiful wife. Beautiful daughter. Has money, property, a future.

    I have nothing, that he has. His wife is really sexy. Really attractive. His daughter is wonderful, smart, straight A student. Great future ahead of her.

    And what's he doing? Destroying his whole life. Because he's not happy. Because he wants to drink. Because it's all about him. All about his life, and no one else matters.

    This is the cancer of American Culture. We've lost something, that 30 years ago, we still had.
     
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    Corporate culture and influence has as much to do with it; the change in American values begins there, not with 'leftists'; they merely widen cracks that already exist. The Boomer gens suffer from a form of affluenza complicated by an inferiority complex induced by what the 'greatest generation' achieved, hence the wild popularity of bashing them. Boomers look like a bunch of whiney Brub Brats, and themselves then raised generations of whiney Burb Brats on drugs and aggressive indoctrination with hate and intellectual infantilism.

    We still 'had it' 30 years ago because many of the Depression and WW II generation were till around, and voting.
     
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    What is/was American culture exactly? You have to start at that point.
     
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    Some of that is overly simplistic.

    But I would love to hear a clarification of "* Marriage is falling apart and we’re encouraging that by pushing gay marriage.".

    How, exactly, does gay marriage encourage straight marriage falling apart? How does someone else's marriage have any effect on yours?
     
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    When you spend some time researching which ethno-religious group is at the forefront of dramatically changing America's culture, morals, and political landscape. You will have your answer as to why our country is swirling down the toilet at breakneck speed.

    Germany tried to rid itself of the same destructive influence during the middle of the last century but failed in its attempt. .... :cool:
     
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    Oh the lost glory times, the times when women couldn't even vote, farther back blacks were bought and sold and lynched, and the poor with no social network went hungry or died from easily preventable illness, when gays had to hide so as not to be beaten or killed, when racism was rampant, lead poisoned the children, polio and flu killed, pollution poisoned the air and rivers and lakes killed wildlife, farming died in the dust, soup lines in the thirties. The glory days for sure. Back ally abortion for the poor who often died and doctors for the rich woman, third world poverty for many and golden castles for some, lung disease for workers with asbestos and coal, and no federal safety net for your savings as banks went dark, oh the glory days for sure.

    This is Your Story - The Progressive Story of America. Pass It On.

    "Now it is true that I believe this country is following a dangerous trend when it permits too great a degree of centralization of governmental functions. I oppose this — in some instances the fight is a rather desperate one. But to attain any success it is quite clear that the Federal government cannot avoid or escape responsibilities which the mass of the people firmly believe should be undertaken by it. The political processes of our country are such that if a rule of reason is not applied in this effort, we will lose everything — even to a possible and drastic change in the Constitution. This is what I mean by my constant insistence upon "moderation" in government. Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are H.L. Hunt (you possibly know his background), a few other Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or business man from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid." President Dwight Eisenhower

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