The Russian Trail Leads To The Democratics

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[Markle]

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[P@triot]

President Trump continues to be vindicated. All roads from Russia lead directly to the Dumbocrats...

McCabe retorted that Comey knew of and authorized his leaks.

All of the “collusion” and all of the lying is being done by the left. The top 2 members of the F.B.I. have admitting leaking and admitted lying.

Andrew McCabe, FBI’s Former No. 2, Faces Criminal Probe for Lying, Leaking

 

[candycorn]

President Trump continues to be vindicated. All roads from Russia lead directly to the Dumbocrats...

McCabe retorted that Comey knew of and authorized his leaks.

All of the “collusion” and all of the lying is being done by the left. The top 2 members of the F.B.I. have admitting leaking and admitted lying.

Andrew McCabe, FBI’s Former No. 2, Faces Criminal Probe for Lying, Leaking

Except when his sons and son in law met directly with the Russians to get dirt on HRC.
That is colluding with Russia in and of itself.

 

[P@triot]

Except when his sons and son in law met directly with the Russians to get dirt on HRC.
That is colluding with Russia in and of itself.

Did you read this entire thread? I have a link to an article about that. Just two honest questions for you candycorn:

1. How did the Russian attorney get into the U.S.? Do you know?

2. Who contacted who and how did they get the contact information of the other party?

Let’s have an honest discussion about this!

 

[candycorn]

Except when his sons and son in law met directly with the Russians to get dirt on HRC.
That is colluding with Russia in and of itself.

Did you read this entire thread? I have a link to an article about that. Just two honest questions for you candycorn:

1. How did the Russian attorney get into the U.S.? Do you know?

2. Who contacted who and how did they get the contact information of the other party?

Let’s have an honest discussion about this!

Are you saying the didn’t meet with the Russians?

 

[P@triot]

Are you saying the didn’t meet with the Russians?

No - they did not meet with Russians.

His son(s), however, meet with a Russian (a single attorney). I’m curious as to why you weren’t willing to answer my questions above. There was no “gotcha” there. I’m curious as to what you are aware of with this issue and what you’re not. It makes a huge difference to the discussion of the issue.

 

[The Original Tree]

There is no surprise at all to the educated and the informed that the Russian trail leads directly to the Democrats. Just look at the indisputable facts...

• One of Barack Obama's primary foreign policy desires during his first term was to "repair" relations with Russia. It was at the top of his list and he campaigned on it. Eventually, he present Russia with a reset button.

• While running for office a second time, Obama debates Mitt Romney who accurately predicts that Russia was the greatest geopolitical threat to the United States despite having none of the daily national security briefings that Barack Obama was privy to. In response, Obama mocks Romney stating "the 1980's called, they want their foreign policy back". Lead by Barack Obama, the Democrats still don't view Russia as a threat. Quite the contrary, they desperately want to suck up to them and yield to them on all global issues.

• Once President Trump is elected president, there is suddenly a narrative about "Russian Collusion" despite every high profile Democrat acknowledging that not an ounce of evidence exists. So where does this narrative suddenly come from and why does it exist?

• Democrats believe they land the "bombshell" when an email surfaces showing a meeting between Donald Trump Jr. and an attorney from Russia. Unfortunately for the Democrats, that backfires in a major way when pictures surface showing the Russian attorney is in the inner circle of the Obama Administration. Worse yet, evidence surfaces showing that Natalia Veselnitskaya (the Russian attorney) cold-contacted Donald Trump Jr. out of the blue. How does she get the personal contact information of a high-profile individual such as that? The answer, of course, is obvious - high level individuals within the Obama Administration.

• But the bad news for the Democrats didn't stop there. Records show that the Obama Administration allowed Natalia Veselnitskaya into the country without a Visa. That is some damning evidence. Obviously she was here for nefarious purposes. It's looking more and more like for the express purpose of framing President Trump.

There is a treasure trove of Russian evidence now - and all of it leads directly back to the Democrats. It also matches the M.O. of how the Obama Administration operated during their reign of terror.

You left one major issue out. Skirpal worked with Steele on The Dossier at Orbis, Steele's Firm.

Who is Skirpal? Why the Ex Russian Spy and his daughter that were recently poisoned with a Nerve Agent in the UK.

Russian Ex-Spy Sergei Skripal Was Poisoned via Front Door, U.K. Says

Spy vs. Spy: Skirpal, Strozk & Steele

The other issue you forgot to mention is that Natalia Veselnitskaya also worked for Fusion GPS. Now why would Fusion GPS send her there to Trump Tower when they were trying to create a Salacious Dossier on Trump?

Answer: They never thought they'd be exposed, and they sent her there, to set a situation up, to make it appear something was going on there. They weren't satisfied enough with their work of fiction. They wanted more and more innuendos and guilt by association. This is how btw they got Sessions to recuse himself even though he had committed no crimes.

She was sent there to help get The FBI's foot in the door further so they could spy on The Trump Campaign for Hillary Clinton.

 

[candycorn]

Are you saying the didn’t meet with the Russians?

No - they did not meet with Russians.

They did, however, meet with a Russian (a single attorney). I’m curious as to why you weren’t willing to answer my questions above. There was no “gotcha” there. I’m curious as to what you are aware of with this issue and what you’re not. It makes a huge difference to the discussion of the issue.

So they worked with the Russians. Thanks

 

[P@triot]

So they worked with the Russians. Thanks

So not only do you have the facts dead wrong - but you don’t even want to know what the actual facts are.

Gee....I wonder why that is.

 

[candycorn]

So they worked with the Russians. Thanks

So not only do you have the facts dead wrong - but you don’t even want to know what the actual facts are.

Gee....I wonder why that is.

You said they met with the Russians. That is collusion.

 

[P@triot]

So they worked with the Russians. Thanks

Yes...you are correct. Hitlery Clinton, Barack Insane Obama, and the DNC did in fact work with the Russians. And what transpired is very disturbing.

 

[P@triot]

You said they met with the Russians. That is collusion.

No I didn’t. Why are you lying about what I said now?

For starters, meeting with Russians is not “collusion”. In a free country, it is 100% legal and permissible to meet with Russians. Are you a xenophobe or something?

 

[P@triot]

There is no surprise at all to the educated and the informed that the Russian trail leads directly to the Democrats. Just look at the indisputable facts...

• One of Barack Obama's primary foreign policy desires during his first term was to "repair" relations with Russia. It was at the top of his list and he campaigned on it. Eventually, he present Russia with a reset button.

• While running for office a second time, Obama debates Mitt Romney who accurately predicts that Russia was the greatest geopolitical threat to the United States despite having none of the daily national security briefings that Barack Obama was privy to. In response, Obama mocks Romney stating "the 1980's called, they want their foreign policy back". Lead by Barack Obama, the Democrats still don't view Russia as a threat. Quite the contrary, they desperately want to suck up to them and yield to them on all global issues.

• Once President Trump is elected president, there is suddenly a narrative about "Russian Collusion" despite every high profile Democrat acknowledging that not an ounce of evidence exists. So where does this narrative suddenly come from and why does it exist?

• Democrats believe they land the "bombshell" when an email surfaces showing a meeting between Donald Trump Jr. and an attorney from Russia. Unfortunately for the Democrats, that backfires in a major way when pictures surface showing the Russian attorney is in the inner circle of the Obama Administration. Worse yet, evidence surfaces showing that Natalia Veselnitskaya (the Russian attorney) cold-contacted Donald Trump Jr. out of the blue. How does she get the personal contact information of a high-profile individual such as that? The answer, of course, is obvious - high level individuals within the Obama Administration.

• But the bad news for the Democrats didn't stop there. Records show that the Obama Administration allowed Natalia Veselnitskaya into the country without a Visa. That is some damning evidence. Obviously she was here for nefarious purposes. It's looking more and more like for the express purpose of framing President Trump.

There is a treasure trove of Russian evidence now - and all of it leads directly back to the Democrats. It also matches the M.O. of how the Obama Administration operated during their reign of terror.

You left one major issue out. Skirpal worked with Steele on The Dossier at Orbis, Steele's Firm.

Who is Skirpal? Why the Ex Russian Spy and his daughter that were recently poisoned with a Nerve Agent in the UK.

Russian Ex-Spy Sergei Skripal Was Poisoned via Front Door, U.K. Says

Spy vs. Spy: Skirpal, Strozk & Steele

The other issue you forgot to mention is that Natalia Veselnitskaya also worked for Fusion GPS. Now why would Fusion GPS send her there to Trump Tower when they were trying to create a Salacious Dossier on Trump?

Answer: They never thought they'd be exposed, and they sent her there, to set a situation up, to make it appear something was going on there. They weren't satisfied enough with their work of fiction. They wanted more and more innuendos and guilt by association. This is how btw they got Sessions to recuse himself even though he had committed no crimes.

She was sent there to help get The FBI's foot in the door further so they could spy on The Trump Campaign for Hillary Clinton.

Thank you for that additional information ToT. I was not aware of that. Very interesting.

 

[candycorn]

You said they met with the Russians. That is collusion.

No I didn’t. Why are you lying about what I said now?

For starters, meeting with Russians is not “collusion”. In a free country, it is 100% legal and permissible to meet with Russians. Are you a xenophobe or something?

Lying about it to investigators and Congress is as Trumps crime Syndicate has done repeatedly.

 

[P@triot]

You left one major issue out. Skirpal worked with Steele on The Dossier at Orbis, Steele's Firm.

Who is Skirpal? Why the Ex Russian Spy and his daughter that were recently poisoned with a Nerve Agent in the UK.

Russian Ex-Spy Sergei Skripal Was Poisoned via Front Door, U.K. Says

Spy vs. Spy: Skirpal, Strozk & Steele

That is amazing. They tried to cover up their tracks the way that Putin always covers up his tracks - assassinations. And here candycorn sits desperately trying to claim that it was President Trump who “colluded”.

It’s too bad CC wants to live in ignorance. She literally never heard of that Russian attorney’s name before today. Ideology over reality every time with the left!

 

[g5000]

There is no surprise at all to the educated and the informed that the Russian trail leads directly to the Democrats. Just look at the indisputable facts...

• One of Barack Obama's primary foreign policy desires during his first term was to "repair" relations with Russia. It was at the top of his list and he campaigned on it. Eventually, he present Russia with a reset button.

• While running for office a second time, Obama debates Mitt Romney who accurately predicts that Russia was the greatest geopolitical threat to the United States despite having none of the daily national security briefings that Barack Obama was privy to. In response, Obama mocks Romney stating "the 1980's called, they want their foreign policy back". Lead by Barack Obama, the Democrats still don't view Russia as a threat. Quite the contrary, they desperately want to suck up to them and yield to them on all global issues.

• Once President Trump is elected president, there is suddenly a narrative about "Russian Collusion" despite every high profile Democrat acknowledging that not an ounce of evidence exists. So where does this narrative suddenly come from and why does it exist?

• Democrats believe they land the "bombshell" when an email surfaces showing a meeting between Donald Trump Jr. and an attorney from Russia. Unfortunately for the Democrats, that backfires in a major way when pictures surface showing the Russian attorney is in the inner circle of the Obama Administration. Worse yet, evidence surfaces showing that Natalia Veselnitskaya (the Russian attorney) cold-contacted Donald Trump Jr. out of the blue. How does she get the personal contact information of a high-profile individual such as that? The answer, of course, is obvious - high level individuals within the Obama Administration.

• But the bad news for the Democrats didn't stop there. Records show that the Obama Administration allowed Natalia Veselnitskaya into the country without a Visa. That is some damning evidence. Obviously she was here for nefarious purposes. It's looking more and more like for the express purpose of framing President Trump.

There is a treasure trove of Russian evidence now - and all of it leads directly back to the Democrats. It also matches the M.O. of how the Obama Administration operated during their reign of terror.

We know an awful lot about Manafort and Russia. Trump can’t make it disappear.

When August 2016 began, Paul Manafort was about 11 weeks into his job as chairman of Donald Trump’s campaign. But despite the political tumult, Manafort found time that month to meet at a swank Manhattan cigar bar with someone the FBI has suggested has ties to Russian intelligence.

By the time August ended, Manafort was gone — having resigned after allegations that he had received millions of dollars “off the books” to support pro-Russia figures in Ukraine. On the very day he was forced out, the financially strapped Manafort created a shell company that received $13 million in loans over the next few months from people or financial institutions with links to Trump.

The machinations of August illustrate why Manafort is a central figure in special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation. And they show why the probe has deep roots — in evidence already made public, cases filed and plea deals won — that will persist even if Trump moves to fire Mueller.

 

[g5000]

We know an awful lot about Manafort and Russia. Trump can’t make it disappear.

Manafort joined the Trump campaign on March 29, initially to manage the insurgent candidate’s planning for the Republican convention in Cleveland in July. Even as he was getting started, Manafort wanted some Russian former business associates to know he was in the catbird seat. On April 11, he sent an email to Konstantin Kilimnik, who managed his office in Kiev, to ask whether the “OVD operation” knew about “media coverage” of Manafort’s growing role in the campaign, according to emails, excerpts of which were reported first by The Post and then in full by the Atlantic .

Mueller’s court filings help decode these references. Kilimnik matches the “Person A” described in a series of documents by Mueller, a “foreign national” who was “a close business colleague” and “worked in Ukraine at Manafort’s company.” Mueller’s March 27 sentencing memo in a separate case included this startling allegation: FBI agents “assess that Person A has ties to a Russian intelligence service and had such ties in 2016.”

And who was the “OVD” whom Manafort was so eager to impress? According to The Post and the Atlantic, which cited people familiar with the emails, it was Oleg V. Deripaska, a billionaire Russian oligarch and Kremlin insider.

 

[P@triot]

Lying about it to investigators and Congress is as Trumps crime Syndicate has done repeatedly.

Why are you moving the goalposts now? You’ve used the term “collusion” half a dozen times and when I point out that it’s legal to meet with people from Russia (despite your very fascist xenophobic views otherwise), you suddenly move the goalposts to “lying” (which - incidentally also ISN’T a crime in the U.S. - though I wish it were with all of you lying progressives running around).

I wanted to have an honest discussion about this. Because you know it exonerates President Trump, you want no part of it. It’s all ideology over reality with you. So let me know what charge you want to accuse Trump of (collusion, lying, etc.) and we’ll discuss that. MmmmK?

 

[g5000]

Did Manafort Use Trump to Curry Favor With a Putin Ally?

On the evening of April 11, 2016, two weeks after Donald Trump hired the political consultant Paul Manafort to lead his campaign’s efforts to wrangle Republican delegates, Manafort emailed his old lieutenant Konstantin Kilimnik, who had worked for him for a decade in the Ukrainian capital, Kiev.

“I assume you have shown our friends my media coverage, right?” Manafort wrote.

“Absolutely,” Kilimnik responded a few hours later from Kiev. “Every article.”

“How do we use to get whole,” Manafort asks. “Has OVD operation seen?”

According to a source close to Manafort, the initials “OVD” refer to Oleg Vladimirovich Deripaska, a Russian oligarch and one of Russia’s richest men. The source also confirmed that one of the individuals repeatedly mentioned in the email exchange as an intermediary to Deripaska is an aide to the oligarch.