The right's hatred for Obama: If it isn't "race", then what is it?

[Unkotare]

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So why all the hate? Could the Republican Party being 90% white and based in the Confederate South have anything to do with it?

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I believe the race factor alone has a lot to do with it but I can only guess how much. I'm sure a lot of the antipathy toward Obama has to do with his charismatic nature and his obviously superior intelligence.

I don't know about hate because that is a very powerful emotion and Obama is not an easy person to hate, mainly because fear is by far the most active precursor of hatred and Obama doesn't project any cause to fear him. The antipathy toward him seems to me to be more of a profound resentment.

Bush on the other hand is much easier to hate because that man is capable of extreme evil. He is a truly malevolent sonofabitch.

This is why you have half the forum on ignore, so you can post stupid shit like this and then hide from responses - YOU FUCKING COWARD.

 

[Not2BSubjugated]

Not that republicans in general (or even necessarily in this post) any less guilty of this, but I notice that nobody defending the theory that the right makes up reasons to hate Obama because he's black is offering up any sort of logical arguments stating -why- the criticisms of his policies are myth. You just state it like it's inarguable fact and then use that as a premise for your argument. This process is an insult to logical debate. The guy with the avatar that says Breastfeeding rocks! shouldn't be the one that has to explain this.

Then taek a look at my post and see if you feel the same way. I believe I made some sound arguments.

You did indeed, but I also noticed that you're neither Republican nor defending the theory that all these policy criticisms are purely smoke screens to hide racially based hatred. I don't mean to blow any smoke up my own @$$, being that I'm one as well, but I find that independents are typically a bit slower to completely dismiss any argument that doesn't agree with their preconceptions.

 

[rightwinger]

My main hatred of Obama is the same as my hatred for all the Presidents in the last 50 years.They all would not secure our borders and deport all illegals. I hate Obama for others reasons also--but my # one hatred is on illegal immigration!! I,of course,hold a special hatred for Reagan who gave 3 millions illegals amnesty in 1986.

Hell yea!

Freak'n Mexicans

 

[laughinReaper]

IMO the country is pretty much in the same place it was 4 years ago. He hasn't done anything really. I don't feel his policies are responsible for the slight improvment of the economy. What ever recovery we have had is exactly what would have happened if nothing was done to improve or further harm the economy. I can't give him credit for that. But again that's just my opinion.

 

[rdean]

IMO the country is pretty much in the same place it was 4 years ago. He hasn't done anything really. I don't feel his policies are responsible for the slight improvment of the economy. What ever recovery we have had is exactly what would have happened if nothing was done to improve or further harm the economy. I can't give him credit for that. But again that's just my opinion.

Having an opinion is good. Having an "informed" opinion is even better. It's easy to go to any search engine and check out the thousands of jobs created by Republicans who voted against Obama's stimulus and then took the money and created those jobs. More than a hundred senators and congressmen in fact. Do we need to name the governors? Some of those stimulus jobs really stand out. For instance, the broad band Internet that was installed was both a huge boon to American infrastructure as well as business.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFLP7HD1s7k]Google Chrome: King Arthur Flour - YouTube[/ame]

I love this commercial. Here is a company that got broadband and then expanded their business to all over the world.

Then there's the railroads that make it easier to move workers, goods and connect communities.

Then there's the bridges. Republicans insist that once the bridge is built, the jobs are over. Are they pretending that bridges don't connect communities and create jobs opportunities, or they just don't understand how these things work?

Then there's the auto industry.

Can you imagine if McCain was president? We would be getting taunting letters from Bin Laden and we would be in the deep depression Republicans worked for under Bush.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

IMO the country is pretty much in the same place it was 4 years ago. He hasn't done anything really. I don't feel his policies are responsible for the slight improvment of the economy. What ever recovery we have had is exactly what would have happened if nothing was done to improve or further harm the economy. I can't give him credit for that. But again that's just my opinion.

Having an opinion is good. Having an "informed" opinion is even better. It's easy to go to any search engine and check out the thousands of jobs created by Republicans who voted against Obama's stimulus and then took the money and created those jobs. More than a hundred senators and congressmen in fact. Do we need to name the governors? Some of those stimulus jobs really stand out. For instance, the broad band Internet that was installed was both a huge boon to American infrastructure as well as business.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFLP7HD1s7k]Google Chrome: King Arthur Flour - YouTube[/ame]

I love this commercial. Here is a company that got broadband and then expanded their business to all over the world.

Then there's the railroads that make it easier to move workers, goods and connect communities.

Then there's the bridges. Republicans insist that once the bridge is built, the jobs are over. Are they pretending that bridges don't connect communities and create jobs opportunities, or they just don't understand how these things work?

Then there's the auto industry.

Can you imagine if McCain was president? We would be getting taunting letters from Bin Laden and we would be in the deep depression Republicans worked for under Bush.

So you can't tell the difference between indoctrination and being properly informed.

Not surprised. I could do an internet search that shows Obama isn't American, doesn't make it true.

 

[rdean]

IMO the country is pretty much in the same place it was 4 years ago. He hasn't done anything really. I don't feel his policies are responsible for the slight improvment of the economy. What ever recovery we have had is exactly what would have happened if nothing was done to improve or further harm the economy. I can't give him credit for that. But again that's just my opinion.

Having an opinion is good. Having an "informed" opinion is even better. It's easy to go to any search engine and check out the thousands of jobs created by Republicans who voted against Obama's stimulus and then took the money and created those jobs. More than a hundred senators and congressmen in fact. Do we need to name the governors? Some of those stimulus jobs really stand out. For instance, the broad band Internet that was installed was both a huge boon to American infrastructure as well as business.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFLP7HD1s7k]Google Chrome: King Arthur Flour - YouTube[/ame]

I love this commercial. Here is a company that got broadband and then expanded their business to all over the world.

Then there's the railroads that make it easier to move workers, goods and connect communities.

Then there's the bridges. Republicans insist that once the bridge is built, the jobs are over. Are they pretending that bridges don't connect communities and create jobs opportunities, or they just don't understand how these things work?

Then there's the auto industry.

Can you imagine if McCain was president? We would be getting taunting letters from Bin Laden and we would be in the deep depression Republicans worked for under Bush.

So you can't tell the difference between indoctrination and being properly informed.

Not surprised. I could do an internet search that shows Obama isn't American, doesn't make it true.

I guess there's a point there. But it's simply too well hidden.

 

[rdean]

IMO the country is pretty much in the same place it was 4 years ago. He hasn't done anything really. I don't feel his policies are responsible for the slight improvment of the economy. What ever recovery we have had is exactly what would have happened if nothing was done to improve or further harm the economy. I can't give him credit for that. But again that's just my opinion.

Having an opinion is good. Having an "informed" opinion is even better. It's easy to go to any search engine and check out the thousands of jobs created by Republicans who voted against Obama's stimulus and then took the money and created those jobs. More than a hundred senators and congressmen in fact. Do we need to name the governors? Some of those stimulus jobs really stand out. For instance, the broad band Internet that was installed was both a huge boon to American infrastructure as well as business.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFLP7HD1s7k]Google Chrome: King Arthur Flour - YouTube[/ame]

I love this commercial. Here is a company that got broadband and then expanded their business to all over the world.

Then there's the railroads that make it easier to move workers, goods and connect communities.

Then there's the bridges. Republicans insist that once the bridge is built, the jobs are over. Are they pretending that bridges don't connect communities and create jobs opportunities, or they just don't understand how these things work?

Then there's the auto industry.

Can you imagine if McCain was president? We would be getting taunting letters from Bin Laden and we would be in the deep depression Republicans worked for under Bush.

So you can't tell the difference between indoctrination and being properly informed.

Not surprised. I could do an internet search that shows Obama isn't American, doesn't make it true.

Oh wait. Now I get it. You're saying this commercial by King Arthur Flour was some kind of "propaganda". Is that it?

And all the jobs created by Republicans from the stimulus money never actually happened.

Is that what you're saying? Did I get it right?

You know that if that's your position, you look worse than a "fool"?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Having an opinion is good. Having an "informed" opinion is even better. It's easy to go to any search engine and check out the thousands of jobs created by Republicans who voted against Obama's stimulus and then took the money and created those jobs. More than a hundred senators and congressmen in fact. Do we need to name the governors? Some of those stimulus jobs really stand out. For instance, the broad band Internet that was installed was both a huge boon to American infrastructure as well as business.

Google Chrome: King Arthur Flour - YouTube

I love this commercial. Here is a company that got broadband and then expanded their business to all over the world.

Then there's the railroads that make it easier to move workers, goods and connect communities.

Then there's the bridges. Republicans insist that once the bridge is built, the jobs are over. Are they pretending that bridges don't connect communities and create jobs opportunities, or they just don't understand how these things work?

Then there's the auto industry.

Can you imagine if McCain was president? We would be getting taunting letters from Bin Laden and we would be in the deep depression Republicans worked for under Bush.

So you can't tell the difference between indoctrination and being properly informed.

Not surprised. I could do an internet search that shows Obama isn't American, doesn't make it true.

Oh wait. Now I get it. You're saying this commercial by King Arthur Flour was some kind of "propaganda". Is that it?

And all the jobs created by Republicans from the stimulus money never actually happened.

Is that what you're saying? Did I get it right?

You know that if that's your position, you look worse than a "fool"?

I didn't say that was my opinion, you did.

I did point out that the internet is not the truth fairy as you'd like it to be.

One can argue either side of the effectiveness of the stimulus. And either side could be right. But the fact remains that we don't have an alternate universe to see what the effect would have been without a stimulus. So without a baseline how exactly do you measure and assign reasoning of such small gains?

 

[usmcstinger]

Obama was a member of The New Party in Chicago. The New Party was created by the Democratic Socialists of America. He was elected to the State Senate with full endorsement and help of the DSA.
He has no respect for our Constitution.
Spain's Green Energy Driven Economy which Obama praised was a complete failure. Spain's Solar Deals on Edge of Bankruptcy as Subsidies Founder - Bloomberg

The use of Kenysian Economics a theory that has never worked any place in the world.

His attempt to create Income Redistribution a tenant of Socialism/Communism is in this Country Unconstitutional.

His belief that Government knows all and that it can interfere in any segment of our lives is another tenant of Communism.

He took an oath to defend our Constitutional from enemies both foreign and domestic. I honored my oath when I enlisted in the USMC. Has he?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

So you can't tell the difference between indoctrination and being properly informed.

Not surprised. I could do an internet search that shows Obama isn't American, doesn't make it true.

Oh wait. Now I get it. You're saying this commercial by King Arthur Flour was some kind of "propaganda". Is that it?

And all the jobs created by Republicans from the stimulus money never actually happened.

Is that what you're saying? Did I get it right?

You know that if that's your position, you look worse than a "fool"?

I didn't say that was my opinion, you did.

I did point out that the internet is not the truth fairy as you'd like it to be.

One can argue either side of the effectiveness of the stimulus. And either side could be right. But the fact remains that we don't have an alternate universe to see what the effect would have been without a stimulus. So without a baseline how exactly do you measure and assign reasoning of such small gains?

It's so quiet I don't even hear crickets.

 

[munnu444]

zionist lobby - the curse

 

[Katzndogz]

He's evil. He would be evil if he was white, but he's not.

 

[rightwinger]

The right does not hate Obama because he is black

But they welcome those who do

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

The right does not hate Obama because he is black

But they welcome those who do

ouch!

 

[Katzndogz]

The right does not hate Obama because he is black

But they welcome those who do

ouch!

The enemy of my enemy is my friend. I don't care WHY they vote against him simply that they DO.

 

[rightwinger]

The right does not hate Obama because he is black

But they welcome those who do

ouch!

The enemy of my enemy is my friend. I don't care WHY they vote against him simply that they DO.

I agree with your assessment of this strange coalition

 

[IndependntLogic]

Not that republicans in general (or even necessarily in this post) any less guilty of this, but I notice that nobody defending the theory that the right makes up reasons to hate Obama because he's black is offering up any sort of logical arguments stating -why- the criticisms of his policies are myth. You just state it like it's inarguable fact and then use that as a premise for your argument. This process is an insult to logical debate. The guy with the avatar that says Breastfeeding rocks! shouldn't be the one that has to explain this.

Then taek a look at my post and see if you feel the same way. I believe I made some sound arguments.

You did indeed, but I also noticed that you're neither Republican nor defending the theory that all these policy criticisms are purely smoke screens to hide racially based hatred. I don't mean to blow any smoke up my own @$$, being that I'm one as well, but I find that independents are typically a bit slower to completely dismiss any argument that doesn't agree with their preconceptions.

Well that's the freedom of being an Independent. We don't instantly decide based on party or ideology. We analyze and evaluate. We can keep an open mind and I have certainly typed a phrase that you won't see from Rdean going to Conservs or Daveman going to Libs: You're right. I was wrong.
Why? Because sometimes I'm wrong! (gasp! he admitted that in public!). Nor am I an expert on everything as many people here seem inclined to claim to be.
But I still maintian that other than with a miniscule portion of the population, the thing with Obama is not race. I find that ludicrous.
Did RDean hate Bush because he was white? Nope. But he did indeed hate him. Because of policies, actions attitudes, values and because he was from the "enemy party". And this is precisely why Conservs hate Obama.

 

[Si modo]

The right does not hate Obama because he is black

But they welcome those who do

Sorta like the left accepted anti-semites when Bush was in office.

Glass houses.

 

[rightwinger]

The right does not hate Obama because he is black

But they welcome those who do

Sorta like the left accepted anti-semites when Bush was in office.

Glass houses.

Bush was Jewish?

Who'd a think it?