The Right To Bear Arms

[Blues Man]

Court Rules Gun Manufacturer Can Be Sued Over Newtown Shooting

Good news. What do you think?

It will be overturned and eventually end up in the Supreme Court where it will be deemed unconstitutional

Or not.

The issue in this case is advertising considered reckless and irresponsible, not the potential liability of gun manufactures when their products are used to commit a crime.

‘“The regulation of advertising that threatens the public’s health, safety, and morals has long been considered a core exercise of the states’ police powers,” Justice Richard Palmer wrote for the majority.’ ibid

I have never seen a rifle advertised in any publication meant for children have you?

These people are grasping at straws

 

[Blues Man]

Since only about 1% of all murder occur in mass shootings I wouldn't say it's common

Murders in mass shootings make up about 0.15% of all murders in the US, and fell 35% from 2017 to 2018.

It didn't fall because you placed more guns on the streets. It fell for a lot of other reasons making itt much harder to actually do a mass shooting through gun laws, community involvement, safe areas in schools, drills, etc.. But placing more guns on the streets is part of the problem when you don't have the security in place when something goes haywire.

What's this more guns on the street bullshit?

Legally owned guns are not "on the street" and I don't see anyone here supporting the illegal trafficking and sale of guns

 

[Lesh]

A "prohibition" is the banning of all of those items. What politician is advocating that?

None?

Oh

So no one is calling for banning certain rifles?

The claim was about a"prohibition of firearms" nimrod

No one is advocating that.

As far as "certain forearms" we already HAVE that and have had it for about a century...machine guns and sawed off shotguns

 

[Blues Man]

A "prohibition" is the banning of all of those items. What politician is advocating that?

None?

Oh

So no one is calling for banning certain rifles?

The claim was about a"prohibition of firearms" nimrod

No one is advocating that.

As far as "certain forearms" we already HAVE that and have had it for about a century...machine guns and sawed off shotguns

There is no ban on machine guns , Shit for Brains

 

[hunarcy]

The second amendment was put into the consitution to fight fascist like you bastards. Our founders knew what big government dictators were all about.

Hell no it isn't out dated or obsolete.

How do you feel today, now that Trump is POTUS and mass murders with firearms are common occurrences.

Same as I felt when Obama was POTUS and mass murders with firearms were common occurrences.

 

[M14 Shooter]

The claim was about a"prohibition of firearms" nimrod
No one is advocating that.

Did you read post 8297?
Yes? Then your statement, above, is a lie.
No? Then your statement, above is made from abject ignorance.
Please - tell us which.

 

[danielpalos]

We have a Second Amendment. Why do we have security problems in our free States.

 

[Blues Man]

We have a Second Amendment. Why do we have security problems in our free States.

Because people aren't obligated to protect other people

 

[danielpalos]

We have a Second Amendment. Why do we have security problems in our free States.

Because people aren't obligated to protect other people

Why do we have militia?

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Since only about 1% of all murder occur in mass shootings I wouldn't say it's common

Murders in mass shootings make up about 0.15% of all murders in the US, and fell 35% from 2017 to 2018.

It didn't fall because you placed more guns on the streets. It fell for a lot of other reasons making itt much harder to actually do a mass shooting through gun laws, community involvement, safe areas in schools, drills, etc.. But placing more guns on the streets is part of the problem when you don't have the security in place when something goes haywire.

What's this more guns on the street bullshit?

Legally owned guns are not "on the street" and I don't see anyone here supporting the illegal trafficking and sale of guns

Legally buying guns out of Denny's Parking Lots in open states and then tranporting them and selling them illegally in a universal background or restricted area to gangs and criminals seems to be supported well in here. Do you support a gun runner "Legally" purchasing those guns in, say Indiana, and then transporting to the bad parts of Chicago and selling them for a sizable profit to gang members? Since 2016 when Illinois went to the Universal Background Check, Indiana has become the place to buy gang weapons for Chicago. Other states are also used that are open but mostly, it's Indiana. So keep saying that you don't support illegal gun trafficking when, in reality, you do.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Do you support a gun runner "Legally" purchasing those guns in, say Indiana, and then transporting to the bad parts of Chicago...

This is a federal felony. Interstate transfers require a FFL at each end and a background check on the buyer.
The "legal" sales you describe do not exist, and thus, your complaint unsound.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Do you support a gun runner "Legally" purchasing those guns in, say Indiana, and then transporting to the bad parts of Chicago...

This is a federal felony. Interstate transfers require a FFL at each end and a background check on the buyer.
The "legal" sales you describe do not exist, and thus, your complaint unsound.

The original purchase is perfectly legal. The buyer doesn't even have to show any identifying information. He can even be masked during the transaction. There is no law for the purchase. Let's face it, when one person with a U-Haul buys your entire stock you should think they are up to something. A Gun Dealer would have to report the sale.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Do you support a gun runner "Legally" purchasing those guns in, say Indiana, and then transporting to the bad parts of Chicago...

This is a federal felony. Interstate transfers require a FFL at each end and a background check on the buyer.
The "legal" sales you describe do not exist, and thus, your complaint unsound.

The original purchase is perfectly legal.

So? The interstate transfer is a felony, and so the sale of the guns in Illinois is, contrary to your claim, illegal.
Why do you think another law that makes it MORE illegal will stop this?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

The security of a free State, is the primary mission of the militia.

...and the primary mission of the 2A is to preserve the right of the people, so that a militia can be effective.

 

[danielpalos]

The security of a free State, is the primary mission of the militia.

...and the primary mission of the 2A is to preserve the right of the people, so that a militia can be effective.

Muster the militia until our security problems go away.

 

[Wry Catcher]

We have a Second Amendment. Why do we have security problems in our free States.

Because people aren't obligated to protect other people

Seems as if those so adamant in their defense of the 2nd A. want to protect others, it's called the Zimmerman Syndrome; a dream to kill a bad guy and be seen as a hero.

 

[Wry Catcher]

The security of a free State, is the primary mission of the militia.

...and the primary mission of the 2A is to preserve the right of the people, so that a militia can be effective.

Muster the militia until our security problems go away.

Tried and failed at Kent State.

 

[M14 Shooter]

We have a Second Amendment. Why do we have security problems in our free States.

Because people aren't obligated to protect other people

Seems as if those so adamant in their defense of the 2nd A. want to protect others, it's called the Zimmerman Syndrome; a dream to kill a bad guy and be seen as a hero.

To you - but then no one has accused you of being rational or reasonable - in fact you have gone out your way to prove just the opposite.

 

[Wry Catcher]

We have a Second Amendment. Why do we have security problems in our free States.

Because people aren't obligated to protect other people

Seems as if those so adamant in their defense of the 2nd A. want to protect others, it's called the Zimmerman Syndrome; a dream to kill a bad guy and be seen as a hero.

To you - but then no one has accused you of being rational or reasonable - in fact you have gone out your way to prove just the opposite.

Idiot-gram, ad hominem variety.

Tell the truth, you go to bed dreaming of using your gun in a movie theater, a grocery store or another public place to shoot and kill a threat to the public.

You aspire to be the hero, and have 15 minutes of fame.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Idiot-gram, ad hominem variety.

Ok.. remember you said that....

Tell the truth, you go to bed dreaming of using your gun in a movie theater, a grocery store or another public place to shoot and kill a threat to the public.

Oh, the irony.