The Right To Bear Arms

So, "well-regulated" as stated in the 2A means "organized" as stated in the Dick Act (100 years later)?

You seem to think you have a point but it's not clear what that point is.

The Dick Act REMOVED a "well regulated militia" from existence regarding private gun ownership. Until it is repealed or rued unconstitutional it is law
 
Like I said...

The Racist Dick Act did not take away the right of the People to keep and bear arms, although it MAY have been a despicable attempt to take them away from black folks.

According to Professor Kelley L. Ross of the Los Angeles Valley College, one aspect of the Militia Act of 1903 was a continuation of Jim Crow-era politics, designed primarily to strengthen racist segregation laws by disarming black U.S. citizens,[47] thus making it easier to oppress and subjugate them.[48][49]
Militia Act of 1903 - Wikipedia
 
How does the Dick Act take away the right of the people to keep and bear arms?

Never said it did. It effectively put an end to the 2A by doing away with the "Well Regulated Militia".

It doesn't "take away" gun rights...it simply put the nail in the coffin of Constitutional protection of them
 
You assume that "well-regulated" means "organized" (it does not)
According to the Constitution in Article 1 Section 8 it is VERY organized...having rolls,officers,training, discipline

And it's the people IN the militia...which is why the militia clause was put there


The militia were the people back then and still are.
Read the individual States Constitutions, with a few exceptions for the ones who took it out of their States Constitutions.
Most require all men between certain ages like 18to 45,to be called up by the States when the Governor of each ,deems it to be necessary.
When called they are then organized.
They were farmers and merchants, ordinary citizens.
The 2nd amendment is for the people to keep and bare arms.
We have the right to self defense.
The militia are the people, not our professional military controlled by the Federal Government.
 
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You assume that "well-regulated" means "organized" (it does not)
According to the Constitution in Article 1 Section 8 it is VERY organized...having rolls,officers,training, discipline

And it's the people IN the militia...which is why the militia clause was put there


The militia were the people back then and still are.
Read the individual States Constitutions, with a few exceptions for the ones who took it out of their States Constitutions.
Most require all men between certain ages like 17 to 35,to be called up by the States when the Governor of each ,deems it to be necessary.
When called they are then organized.
They were farmers and merchants, ordinary citizens.
The 2nd amendment is for the people to keep and bare arms.
We have the right to self defense.
The militia are the people, not our professional military controlled by the Federal Government.
When discussing the 2A...State Constitutions are not the issue...the FEDERAL Constitution is.
 
It's the law...and unless and until it is repealed or ruled unconstitutional...it will remain so. That's how it works
And NOTHING in that law says that right of the people shall no longer NOT be infringed. You assume WAY TOO MUCH.

Certainly the Miller Court would have said something about it, given that Miller was NOT a member of any militia or the National Guard.

Read the damn ACT moron
The ACT says NOTHING about the 2A....fucking MORON!!!!
 
You assume that "well-regulated" means "organized" (it does not)
According to the Constitution in Article 1 Section 8 it is VERY organized...having rolls,officers,training, discipline

And it's the people IN the militia...which is why the militia clause was put there


The militia were the people back then and still are.
Read the individual States Constitutions, with a few exceptions for the ones who took it out of their States Constitutions.
Most require all men between certain ages like 17 to 35,to be called up by the States when the Governor of each ,deems it to be necessary.
When called they are then organized.
They were farmers and merchants, ordinary citizens.
The 2nd amendment is for the people to keep and bare arms.
We have the right to self defense.
The militia are the people, not our professional military controlled by the Federal Government.
When discussing the 2A...State Constitutions are not the issue...the FEDERAL Constitution is.


They go hand in hand.
People need to understand that it's the people who are the militia , not the Federal Military.
 
Of COURSE it did. It effectively did away with the "Well Regulated Militia"
10 U.S. Code § 246 - Militia: composition and classes

(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

(b) the classes of the militia are--
National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
National Guard or the Naval Militia.

Not state militias, but the U.S. Militia only (those whom the President would call up to serve the United States).

Now, where does it say that the right of the people may be infringed?
 
Efficiency of Militia Bill H.R. 11654, June 28, 1902. Congressional Record, House, pages 7706-7713 and 321-353, 7594-7595. Also known as the Dick Act of 1902, written by Representative Dick, passed by Congress on June 30, 1902.

The three classes H.R. 11654 provides for are the organized militia, henceforth known as the National Guard of the State, Territory and District of Columbia, the unorganized militia and the regular army. The militia encompasses every able-bodied male between the ages of 18 and 45. All members of the unorganized militia have the absolute personal right and 2nd Amendment right to keep and bear arms of any type, and as many as they can afford to buy.
 
Of COURSE it did. It effectively did away with the "Well Regulated Militia"
10 U.S. Code § 246 - Militia: composition and classes

(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

(b) the classes of the militia are--
National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
National Guard or the Naval Militia.

Not state militias, but the U.S. Militia only (those whom the President would call up to serve the United States).

Now, where does it say that the right of the people may be infringed?
That "militia" is subject to rules and regulations of the National Guard and do NOT have individual gun rights based on that.

Do you know any National Guard troops who take their weapons home?
 
That "militia" is subject to rules and regulations of the National Guard and do NOT have individual gun rights based on that.

Do you know any National Guard troops who take their weapons home?
How does that prove that the right of the people shall now be infringed?

You keep talking in circles and avoiding the VERY PLAIN text of the 2A, which is NOT voided by the Dick Act or any other act of congress.
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Efficiency of Militia Bill H.R. 11654, June 28, 1902. Congressional Record, House, pages 7706-7713 and 321-353, 7594-7595. Also known as the Dick Act of 1902, written by Representative Dick, passed by Congress on June 30, 1902.

The three classes H.R. 11654 provides for are the organized militia, henceforth known as the National Guard of the State, Territory and District of Columbia, the unorganized militia and the regular army. The militia encompasses every able-bodied male between the ages of 18 and 45. All members of the unorganized militia have the absolute personal right and 2nd Amendment right to keep and bear arms of any type, and as many as they can afford to buy.
The BEST you are going to get out of that is an UNORGANIZED militia that consists of ONLY males between 17 and 45.

It turns the "Well Regulated Militia" into the National Guard

Scalia knew that was a loser argument for what he was trying to accomplish so he tried to pretend the Militia Clause didn't exist
 

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