The Right To Bear Arms

[Rustic]

That’s why we have no real freedom in this country

What freedoms do you not have that you think you're entitled to have? What can you not do right now that you think you should be able to do?

Socialism/political correctness/affirmative-action all have destroyed any sort of freedom and individuality in this country.
If you think we have real freedom in this country you obviously have no idea what real freedom is… LOL

So nothing of substance; just you being mad that you can't call black people the N-word anymore, you can't call women "sugar tits", or gay people the f-word.

Fuck you.

Na, I’m a libertarian I really don’t care about social issues in general. I’m a one issue voter…

 

[Rustic]

That’s why we have no real freedom in this country

What freedoms do you not have that you think you're entitled to have? What can you not do right now that you think you should be able to do?

Socialism/political correctness/affirmative-action all have destroyed any sort of freedom and individuality in this country.
If you think we have real freedom in this country you obviously have no idea what real freedom is… LOL

the movie Blazing Saddles could not be made today. Does that tell you something about our culture?

Yes, political correctness/affirmative action/Socialism has made this country pussy-fied...

 

[Redfish]

the cure for drunk driving-----------------------take drivers licenses from sober people

Actually, thanks to drunk driving laws, a public campaign against drunk driving, and MADD, drunk driving deaths have been cut in half since 1980. So thanks for helping me prove my point that safety laws and regulations work, can change the culture, and can save lives.

the cure for drug use--------------------make them illegal

I don't believe drugs should be illegal. So you're barking up the wrong tree here.

the cure for mass murder---------------------execute the murderers-----quickly and publicly

Which accomplishes what? Nothing. You want people to think you're tough to cover your weak insecurities, so you overcompensate by posturing.

as usual you completely missed the point.

yes, drunk driving laws work, taking licenses from sober drivers is like taking guns from responsible gun owners-------it accomplishes nothing

So you want kids to be able to buy crack at the local convenience store?

if you have rats, you kill them before they breed and do more damage. Mentally ill people should be locked up to protect themselves and others. We used to do that, now we don't because it might hurt their feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelings.

 

[The Derp]

That’s why we have no real freedom in this country

What freedoms do you not have that you think you're entitled to have? What can you not do right now that you think you should be able to do?

Socialism/political correctness/affirmative-action all have destroyed any sort of freedom and individuality in this country.
If you think we have real freedom in this country you obviously have no idea what real freedom is… LOL

So nothing of substance; just you being mad that you can't call black people the N-word anymore, you can't call women "sugar tits", or gay people the f-word.

Fuck you.

Na, I’m a libertarian I really don’t care about social issues in general. I’m a one issue voter…

Like I said, there is nothing that you can think of that you're prohibited from doing by the government. Not one single thing. So it's more about feelings with you. You feel that your freedoms are being curtailed but you can't articulate what those freedoms actually are.

So you posture and call yourself a "libertarian", which is hilarious because "libertarians" end up being the most government-dependent people there are.

 

[The Derp]

as usual you completely missed the point.

No, I got and understood your point. It was just a really stupid and juvenile point. Which is par for the course when dealing with neo-Nazis, Conservatives, and other ignorant bigots and dupes.

yes, drunk driving laws work, taking licenses from sober drivers is like taking guns from responsible gun owners-------it accomplishes nothing

Wait a second, so you're saying drunk driving laws do work. So if they do work, then why wouldn't safety laws and regulations work to reduce gun deaths? Taking away someone's firearm license prohibits them from buying a gun legally, so they have to put themselves at risk to obtain a gun illegally or via a straw purchase, which is also sketchy and often times results in a robbery of the purchasee by the seller or a third party that was scoping out the set up. Buying a gun illegally is a really risky thing. So I'm all about forcing people to bear more risk if they really, truly want to own a gun but can't.

So you want kids to be able to buy crack at the local convenience store?

No, I think all drugs should be legalized for people over 18. That way the drugs can be regulated and made safer, that way we don't waste taxpayer money incarcerating addicts, and we can tax it and use that tax money for rehabilitation or education.

if you have rats, you kill them before they breed and do more damage. Mentally ill people should be locked up to protect themselves and others. We used to do that, now we don't because it might hurt their feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelings.

What if it turns out that you're mentally ill? Have you ever undergone a psychological exam? I doubt it. You think mentally ill people should be locked up, but you're too much of a wussy to get tested for mental illness yourself. Probably because you're mentally ill yourself. You have to be if this is how you think.

 

[Rustic]

That’s why we have no real freedom in this country

What freedoms do you not have that you think you're entitled to have? What can you not do right now that you think you should be able to do?

Socialism/political correctness/affirmative-action all have destroyed any sort of freedom and individuality in this country.
If you think we have real freedom in this country you obviously have no idea what real freedom is… LOL

So nothing of substance; just you being mad that you can't call black people the N-word anymore, you can't call women "sugar tits", or gay people the f-word.

Fuck you.

Na, I’m a libertarian I really don’t care about social issues in general. I’m a one issue voter…

Like I said, there is nothing that you can think of that you're prohibited from doing by the government. Not one single thing. So it's more about feelings with you. You feel that your freedoms are being curtailed but you can't articulate what those freedoms actually are.

So you posture and call yourself a "libertarian", which is hilarious because "libertarians" end up being the most government-dependent people there are.

The thing is, I am self-employed have been for 20+ years I’ve been debt free for about the same time. I have never purchased insurance, I homeschool my kids, I hunt and grow my own food, but I also realize I have no real freedom in this country, And my kids are going to live in an Orwellian state most likely.
That’s why I am a one issue voter, I can do nothing to change the direction of this country. It has been lost for over a century… The cancer of socialism has won.
The funny thing is progressive put all their chips into socialism, socialism is a 100% failure 100% of the time long term in the history of the planet. LOL

 

[The Derp]

The thing is, I am self-employed have been for 20+ years I’ve been debt free for about the same time. I have never purchased insurance, I homeschool my kids, I hunt and grow my own food, but I also realize I have no real freedom in this country, And my kids are going to live in an Orwellian state most likely.

Yeah, I don't believe any of that shit you say about yourself.

And if you actually, really hunt for food, why can't you use a crossbow or a regular bow? Not man enough, I guess. Alexander the Great killed bears, lions, and elephants in a skirt and sandals, with a spear. So if he could do it, why can't you kill a deer with a bow and arrow? Because you're not half the hunter you pretend to be.

That’s why I am a one issue voter, I can do nothing to change the direction of this country. It has been lost for over a century… The cancer of socialism has won.

So wait...you say socialism won, yet in the sentence prior, you talk of living your rugged individualist life. So which is it? Is the government oppressive or isn't it? Doesn't sound like it since you get to live your shitty life the way you want. Like I said before, you just want to call black people the n-word and not face criticism for it. Be honest.

The funny thing is progressive put all their chips into socialism, socialism is a 100% failure 100% of the time long term in the history of the planet. LOL

Socialism seems to work just fine for Canada, Germany, Denmark, Norway, South Korea, Israel, and tons of other countries. What you don't see working well is capitalism. Capitalism is unable to provide an adequate standard of living for the working class.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Comparing a fully automatic to a semiautomatic is ridiculous.

Why are you so fixated on the cosmetics of a rifle? There is no difference between an AR and any other .223 caliber rifle.

NONE ZERO ZIP NADA.

The fact that you cannot understand this is more proof of your room temperature IQ

And I am still waiting for you to prove your claim that one .223 semiautomatic rifle fires faster than another

You just can't stand it can you. I am sure you are loving it that there are school children giving their lives so that you can have your version of the 2nd amendment.

The US Army doesn't use a full auto version of the M-16. It has three settings on the selector, safe, single shot and 3 shot. Most of the M-16s are used in the single shot setting. When you are operating a M-16 single shot, it fires exactly the same speed and way that a semi auto AR-15 does. Both are designed to kill as many PEOPLE as possible as quickly as possible. Trying to call the AR-15 semi auto a sporting rifle is a huge stretch of the imagination. It's a lousy varmint rifle. I can think of a host of others that are much better even in the same caliber. I prefer a bolt action varmint rifle myself. Going after Varmints you really only get one shot so why use a semi auto with such a short barrel. If I were to pick a caliber for varmint it would probably be the 243 or the 6mm in a bolt action. You can't pass any version of the AR-15 off as a sporting rifle unless your sport is to slaughter lots of people fast.

What I have proposed is not in contradiction of the 2nd amendment. Much like the way the Thompson was taxed out of existance, the same can be done with the AR-15. But there are people with the Thompson right now. They didn't take away the ones that were already out there. They just charged 200 bucks for each one with a firearms license and it slowly left the streets. The Thompson was also a huge slaughter of children. The Gangsters would spray and pray with them with little regard of the innocents. The Thompson wholesale murdered more innocents than it did gangsters. I guess our Grand Parents realized that public safety should come first. The Supreme Court agreed with them.

From what I can see, the first person that needs to have his AR-15 type taken from his sick little hands is you.

Prove that an Ar shoots faster than any other rifle as you have claimed over and over.

An AR is NOT an M16 it just looks like one. An AR is absolutely no different than my .223 Ranch rifle when it comes to performance

And FYI I do not own an AR frame rifle. The only .223 semiauto I have is my Ruger Mini 14. I do not need an AR because it would be redundant and IMO a waste of my money.

But unlike you I can actually understand that the AR is not making people kill

Simple. The AR uses a completely different mechanism for it's bolt and action. It's faster, much faster. The Mini-14 is an older design from the M-14 and M-1. Now, that is the answer, you Terrorist Baby Killer.

You need to move on and stop this absurd support of the AR or they just might lump your Mini-14 in with it when (notice the word when) change the law to protect our children. Are you willing to have to pay 200 bucks and register not only you but your weapon on a national database? Can you even pass a national database search?

So keep pushing, there, Baby Killer.

It's not faster. Both rifles can only fire as fast as the trigger can be pulled. You have not substantiated these claims with any actual data .

You're too fucking stupid to see that the AR is just a plain old semiautomatic rifle with some extra plastic doodads

And no I will not register my firearms since it's none of anyone's business what I own.

Yeah, but see, leftists are terrified of all semi-automatic weapons, because it has "automatic" in the name, and they therefore assume we're talking about machine guns.

Wrong answer, fruitcake. What is has the highest body count for a weapon in the mass shootings in the last 25 years? Yes, it's a semi auto but it's based on a full auto brother. It's designed to kill very quickly and efficiently of people. It's the weapon of choice because it does the best job. Can you tell us what weapon I am talking about without the NRA Boilerplate response?

 

[Skull Pilot]

You just can't stand it can you. I am sure you are loving it that there are school children giving their lives so that you can have your version of the 2nd amendment.

The US Army doesn't use a full auto version of the M-16. It has three settings on the selector, safe, single shot and 3 shot. Most of the M-16s are used in the single shot setting. When you are operating a M-16 single shot, it fires exactly the same speed and way that a semi auto AR-15 does. Both are designed to kill as many PEOPLE as possible as quickly as possible. Trying to call the AR-15 semi auto a sporting rifle is a huge stretch of the imagination. It's a lousy varmint rifle. I can think of a host of others that are much better even in the same caliber. I prefer a bolt action varmint rifle myself. Going after Varmints you really only get one shot so why use a semi auto with such a short barrel. If I were to pick a caliber for varmint it would probably be the 243 or the 6mm in a bolt action. You can't pass any version of the AR-15 off as a sporting rifle unless your sport is to slaughter lots of people fast.

What I have proposed is not in contradiction of the 2nd amendment. Much like the way the Thompson was taxed out of existance, the same can be done with the AR-15. But there are people with the Thompson right now. They didn't take away the ones that were already out there. They just charged 200 bucks for each one with a firearms license and it slowly left the streets. The Thompson was also a huge slaughter of children. The Gangsters would spray and pray with them with little regard of the innocents. The Thompson wholesale murdered more innocents than it did gangsters. I guess our Grand Parents realized that public safety should come first. The Supreme Court agreed with them.

From what I can see, the first person that needs to have his AR-15 type taken from his sick little hands is you.

Prove that an Ar shoots faster than any other rifle as you have claimed over and over.

An AR is NOT an M16 it just looks like one. An AR is absolutely no different than my .223 Ranch rifle when it comes to performance

And FYI I do not own an AR frame rifle. The only .223 semiauto I have is my Ruger Mini 14. I do not need an AR because it would be redundant and IMO a waste of my money.

But unlike you I can actually understand that the AR is not making people kill

Simple. The AR uses a completely different mechanism for it's bolt and action. It's faster, much faster. The Mini-14 is an older design from the M-14 and M-1. Now, that is the answer, you Terrorist Baby Killer.

You need to move on and stop this absurd support of the AR or they just might lump your Mini-14 in with it when (notice the word when) change the law to protect our children. Are you willing to have to pay 200 bucks and register not only you but your weapon on a national database? Can you even pass a national database search?

So keep pushing, there, Baby Killer.

It's not faster. Both rifles can only fire as fast as the trigger can be pulled. You have not substantiated these claims with any actual data .

You're too fucking stupid to see that the AR is just a plain old semiautomatic rifle with some extra plastic doodads

And no I will not register my firearms since it's none of anyone's business what I own.

Yeah, but see, leftists are terrified of all semi-automatic weapons, because it has "automatic" in the name, and they therefore assume we're talking about machine guns.

Wrong answer, fruitcake. What is has the highest body count for a weapon in the mass shootings in the last 25 years? Yes, it's a semi auto but it's based on a full auto brother. It's designed to kill very quickly and efficiently of people. It's the weapon of choice because it does the best job. Can you tell us what weapon I am talking about without the NRA Boilerplate response?

It matters not what a semiauto looks like it only matters how it functions.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

What freedoms do you not have that you think you're entitled to have? What can you not do right now that you think you should be able to do?

Socialism/political correctness/affirmative-action all have destroyed any sort of freedom and individuality in this country.
If you think we have real freedom in this country you obviously have no idea what real freedom is… LOL

So nothing of substance; just you being mad that you can't call black people the N-word anymore, you can't call women "sugar tits", or gay people the f-word.

Fuck you.

Na, I’m a libertarian I really don’t care about social issues in general. I’m a one issue voter…

Like I said, there is nothing that you can think of that you're prohibited from doing by the government. Not one single thing. So it's more about feelings with you. You feel that your freedoms are being curtailed but you can't articulate what those freedoms actually are.

So you posture and call yourself a "libertarian", which is hilarious because "libertarians" end up being the most government-dependent people there are.

The thing is, I am self-employed have been for 20+ years I’ve been debt free for about the same time. I have never purchased insurance, I homeschool my kids, I hunt and grow my own food, but I also realize I have no real freedom in this country, And my kids are going to live in an Orwellian state most likely.
That’s why I am a one issue voter, I can do nothing to change the direction of this country. It has been lost for over a century… The cancer of socialism has won.
The funny thing is progressive put all their chips into socialism, socialism is a 100% failure 100% of the time long term in the history of the planet. LOL

If I ever meet one, I will tell them what you said. But I happen to be a Progressive Conservative. We are a strange lot. We want to view new ideas but we also want our Government to stop the runaway spending it has done in the past. From the looks of things, it's going to accelerate dramatically thank to you Right Wing Nut Jobs that seem to believe that our Grand Children will fix the problem so you won't. Since you Right Wing Nutjobs can't figure a way out of it, maybe a few new ideas or Progressive Ideas are in order.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Prove that an Ar shoots faster than any other rifle as you have claimed over and over.

An AR is NOT an M16 it just looks like one. An AR is absolutely no different than my .223 Ranch rifle when it comes to performance

And FYI I do not own an AR frame rifle. The only .223 semiauto I have is my Ruger Mini 14. I do not need an AR because it would be redundant and IMO a waste of my money.

But unlike you I can actually understand that the AR is not making people kill

Simple. The AR uses a completely different mechanism for it's bolt and action. It's faster, much faster. The Mini-14 is an older design from the M-14 and M-1. Now, that is the answer, you Terrorist Baby Killer.

You need to move on and stop this absurd support of the AR or they just might lump your Mini-14 in with it when (notice the word when) change the law to protect our children. Are you willing to have to pay 200 bucks and register not only you but your weapon on a national database? Can you even pass a national database search?

So keep pushing, there, Baby Killer.

It's not faster. Both rifles can only fire as fast as the trigger can be pulled. You have not substantiated these claims with any actual data .

You're too fucking stupid to see that the AR is just a plain old semiautomatic rifle with some extra plastic doodads

And no I will not register my firearms since it's none of anyone's business what I own.

Yeah, but see, leftists are terrified of all semi-automatic weapons, because it has "automatic" in the name, and they therefore assume we're talking about machine guns.

Wrong answer, fruitcake. What is has the highest body count for a weapon in the mass shootings in the last 25 years? Yes, it's a semi auto but it's based on a full auto brother. It's designed to kill very quickly and efficiently of people. It's the weapon of choice because it does the best job. Can you tell us what weapon I am talking about without the NRA Boilerplate response?

It matters not what a semiauto looks like it only matters how it functions.

WRong answer once again. Part of it is a culture. The Weapon I am specifically referring to is very much part of a culture. Now, name that Weapon. Go ahead and be very specific.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Simple. The AR uses a completely different mechanism for it's bolt and action. It's faster, much faster. The Mini-14 is an older design from the M-14 and M-1. Now, that is the answer, you Terrorist Baby Killer.

You need to move on and stop this absurd support of the AR or they just might lump your Mini-14 in with it when (notice the word when) change the law to protect our children. Are you willing to have to pay 200 bucks and register not only you but your weapon on a national database? Can you even pass a national database search?

So keep pushing, there, Baby Killer.

It's not faster. Both rifles can only fire as fast as the trigger can be pulled. You have not substantiated these claims with any actual data .

You're too fucking stupid to see that the AR is just a plain old semiautomatic rifle with some extra plastic doodads

And no I will not register my firearms since it's none of anyone's business what I own.

Yeah, but see, leftists are terrified of all semi-automatic weapons, because it has "automatic" in the name, and they therefore assume we're talking about machine guns.

Wrong answer, fruitcake. What is has the highest body count for a weapon in the mass shootings in the last 25 years? Yes, it's a semi auto but it's based on a full auto brother. It's designed to kill very quickly and efficiently of people. It's the weapon of choice because it does the best job. Can you tell us what weapon I am talking about without the NRA Boilerplate response?

It matters not what a semiauto looks like it only matters how it functions.

WRong answer once again. Part of it is a culture. The Weapon I am specifically referring to is very much part of a culture. Now, name that Weapon. Go ahead and be very specific.

It matters not what any gun looks like only how it performs an the Ar 15 that you are so afraid of performs no differently than any other semiautomatic in existence

 

[Daryl Hunt]

The thing is, I am self-employed have been for 20+ years I’ve been debt free for about the same time. I have never purchased insurance, I homeschool my kids, I hunt and grow my own food, but I also realize I have no real freedom in this country, And my kids are going to live in an Orwellian state most likely.

Yeah, I don't believe any of that shit you say about yourself.

And if you actually, really hunt for food, why can't you use a crossbow or a regular bow? Not man enough, I guess. Alexander the Great killed bears, lions, and elephants in a skirt and sandals, with a spear. So if he could do it, why can't you kill a deer with a bow and arrow? Because you're not half the hunter you pretend to be.

That’s why I am a one issue voter, I can do nothing to change the direction of this country. It has been lost for over a century… The cancer of socialism has won.

So wait...you say socialism won, yet in the sentence prior, you talk of living your rugged individualist life. So which is it? Is the government oppressive or isn't it? Doesn't sound like it since you get to live your shitty life the way you want. Like I said before, you just want to call black people the n-word and not face criticism for it. Be honest.

The funny thing is progressive put all their chips into socialism, socialism is a 100% failure 100% of the time long term in the history of the planet. LOL

Socialism seems to work just fine for Canada, Germany, Denmark, Norway, South Korea, Israel, and tons of other countries. What you don't see working well is capitalism. Capitalism is unable to provide an adequate standard of living for the working class.

The US isn't capitalist for Government. It's gotten to the point where it's so corrupt that you can't really tell what it is anymore. For instance, the no new gun laws. You will note that the leading Republicans that keep spewing the NRA boilerplate have all received millions from the NRA. Corporations can't directly give that kind of money to our Politicians. They can only give 2500 bucks a year. So they give it to the NRA who has the ability to donate those funds to various Super PACS to be earmarked for those particular Politicians. And it's all done anonymously. The problem here is, we need to see who donated what. Until that happens, our Politicians will deny, deny and deflect because we can't prove otherwise. And this goes to all Politicians, not just the right or the left.

What happens when each and every ad has to say who actually donated to it. And every Bill that is presented has to say exactly who wrote it and financially donated to make it happen. As long as Corporations are considered People, we need to treat them exactly like they do me and you. This would make the really corrupt ones run from the building because we would see just how corrupt they really are.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

It's not faster. Both rifles can only fire as fast as the trigger can be pulled. You have not substantiated these claims with any actual data .

You're too fucking stupid to see that the AR is just a plain old semiautomatic rifle with some extra plastic doodads

And no I will not register my firearms since it's none of anyone's business what I own.

Yeah, but see, leftists are terrified of all semi-automatic weapons, because it has "automatic" in the name, and they therefore assume we're talking about machine guns.

Wrong answer, fruitcake. What is has the highest body count for a weapon in the mass shootings in the last 25 years? Yes, it's a semi auto but it's based on a full auto brother. It's designed to kill very quickly and efficiently of people. It's the weapon of choice because it does the best job. Can you tell us what weapon I am talking about without the NRA Boilerplate response?

It matters not what a semiauto looks like it only matters how it functions.

WRong answer once again. Part of it is a culture. The Weapon I am specifically referring to is very much part of a culture. Now, name that Weapon. Go ahead and be very specific.

It matters not what any gun looks like only how it performs an the Ar 15 that you are so afraid of performs no differently than any other semiautomatic in existence

Now, was that painful? I hope not. The AR style has become a cult weapon. You can say how others are just as deadly but the AR is the weapon of choice for mass shootings. I am not saying we need to outlaw that specific weapon but we can up it in the firearms where you can't just walk into a store and purchase it in less than 30 minutes or you can't mail order it or buy it at a gunshow with no background check. If you wanted to keep yours then you can keep it. Just pay the 200 bucks that would be required, register the weapon and yourself and become responsible for the weapon and it's uses. ALL AR types used in the mass shootings were purchased legally so let's stop with the "Oh Yah, what about the Criminal". Hand Grenades do a much better job at killing but the people that legally buy them pay the 200 bucks and just don't use them for mass killings no matter what the movies say. People that own Automatic Weapons pay the 200 bucks and are not the problem. But an 18 year old kid with a score to settle that buys it without paying the 200 bucks IS the problem. Actually, it isn't limited to age as the shootings can attest. You just have to be 18 years old or older. Not a problem if the 18 year old pays the 200 bucks for the license to possess one. There are many young people that have at least a class 4 or class D firearms license and you just don't hear about them doing these insane things.

Sorry to bust your bubble but I am not out to take your guns. I just suggest that we reclassify one specific weapon.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Yeah, but see, leftists are terrified of all semi-automatic weapons, because it has "automatic" in the name, and they therefore assume we're talking about machine guns.

Wrong answer, fruitcake. What is has the highest body count for a weapon in the mass shootings in the last 25 years? Yes, it's a semi auto but it's based on a full auto brother. It's designed to kill very quickly and efficiently of people. It's the weapon of choice because it does the best job. Can you tell us what weapon I am talking about without the NRA Boilerplate response?

It matters not what a semiauto looks like it only matters how it functions.

WRong answer once again. Part of it is a culture. The Weapon I am specifically referring to is very much part of a culture. Now, name that Weapon. Go ahead and be very specific.

It matters not what any gun looks like only how it performs an the Ar 15 that you are so afraid of performs no differently than any other semiautomatic in existence

Now, was that painful? I hope not. The AR style has become a cult weapon. You can say how others are just as deadly but the AR is the weapon of choice for mass shootings. I am not saying we need to outlaw that specific weapon but we can up it in the firearms where you can't just walk into a store and purchase it in less than 30 minutes or you can't mail order it or buy it at a gunshow with no background check. If you wanted to keep yours then you can keep it. Just pay the 200 bucks that would be required, register the weapon and yourself and become responsible for the weapon and it's uses. ALL AR types used in the mass shootings were purchased legally so let's stop with the "Oh Yah, what about the Criminal". Hand Grenades do a much better job at killing but the people that legally buy them pay the 200 bucks and just don't use them for mass killings no matter what the movies say. People that own Automatic Weapons pay the 200 bucks and are not the problem. But an 18 year old kid with a score to settle that buys it without paying the 200 bucks IS the problem. Actually, it isn't limited to age as the shootings can attest. You just have to be 18 years old or older. Not a problem if the 18 year old pays the 200 bucks for the license to possess one. There are many young people that have at least a class 4 or class D firearms license and you just don't hear about them doing these insane things.

Sorry to bust your bubble but I am not out to take your guns. I just suggest that we reclassify one specific weapon.

And I am telling you that it is beyond stupid to reclassify one specific Semiautomatic rifle because of the way it looks and no other reason.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

That’s why we have no real freedom in this country

What freedoms do you not have that you think you're entitled to have? What can you not do right now that you think you should be able to do?

Socialism/political correctness/affirmative-action all have destroyed any sort of freedom and individuality in this country.
If you think we have real freedom in this country you obviously have no idea what real freedom is… LOL

the movie Blazing Saddles could not be made today. Does that tell you something about our culture?

Yes, political correctness/affirmative action/Socialism has made this country pussy-fied...

Actually, it's the corruption. If any CEOs were to get caught operating like our Politicians they would be sent to prison. The worst thing that happened for Politics was the creation of the PACS and Super-PACS. The cost of being elected or reelected went way up where the common person has no chance of being elected.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Wrong answer, fruitcake. What is has the highest body count for a weapon in the mass shootings in the last 25 years? Yes, it's a semi auto but it's based on a full auto brother. It's designed to kill very quickly and efficiently of people. It's the weapon of choice because it does the best job. Can you tell us what weapon I am talking about without the NRA Boilerplate response?

It matters not what a semiauto looks like it only matters how it functions.

WRong answer once again. Part of it is a culture. The Weapon I am specifically referring to is very much part of a culture. Now, name that Weapon. Go ahead and be very specific.

It matters not what any gun looks like only how it performs an the Ar 15 that you are so afraid of performs no differently than any other semiautomatic in existence

Now, was that painful? I hope not. The AR style has become a cult weapon. You can say how others are just as deadly but the AR is the weapon of choice for mass shootings. I am not saying we need to outlaw that specific weapon but we can up it in the firearms where you can't just walk into a store and purchase it in less than 30 minutes or you can't mail order it or buy it at a gunshow with no background check. If you wanted to keep yours then you can keep it. Just pay the 200 bucks that would be required, register the weapon and yourself and become responsible for the weapon and it's uses. ALL AR types used in the mass shootings were purchased legally so let's stop with the "Oh Yah, what about the Criminal". Hand Grenades do a much better job at killing but the people that legally buy them pay the 200 bucks and just don't use them for mass killings no matter what the movies say. People that own Automatic Weapons pay the 200 bucks and are not the problem. But an 18 year old kid with a score to settle that buys it without paying the 200 bucks IS the problem. Actually, it isn't limited to age as the shootings can attest. You just have to be 18 years old or older. Not a problem if the 18 year old pays the 200 bucks for the license to possess one. There are many young people that have at least a class 4 or class D firearms license and you just don't hear about them doing these insane things.

Sorry to bust your bubble but I am not out to take your guns. I just suggest that we reclassify one specific weapon.

And I am telling you that it is beyond stupid to reclassify one specific Semiautomatic rifle because of the way it looks and no other reason.

You can fight it but the genie is out of the bottle. While the School Children that have been terrorized and traumatized can't vote, their parents can and in a few short years the children turn 18. And they agree with what I have said all along. Even many of the large Republican Donors are starting to remove support for anyone that will not go along those lines. Yes, these folks give millions each year to various Republican Candidates but they will not contribute to those that still spew the NRA Boilerplate responses. It's happening more and more each day. The Last Mass Shooting was the straw that broke the camels back. Too bad it didn't get a sore back 25 years ago.

 

[The Derp]

It matters not what a semiauto looks like it only matters how it functions.

WRong answer once again. Part of it is a culture. The Weapon I am specifically referring to is very much part of a culture. Now, name that Weapon. Go ahead and be very specific.

It matters not what any gun looks like only how it performs an the Ar 15 that you are so afraid of performs no differently than any other semiautomatic in existence

Now, was that painful? I hope not. The AR style has become a cult weapon. You can say how others are just as deadly but the AR is the weapon of choice for mass shootings. I am not saying we need to outlaw that specific weapon but we can up it in the firearms where you can't just walk into a store and purchase it in less than 30 minutes or you can't mail order it or buy it at a gunshow with no background check. If you wanted to keep yours then you can keep it. Just pay the 200 bucks that would be required, register the weapon and yourself and become responsible for the weapon and it's uses. ALL AR types used in the mass shootings were purchased legally so let's stop with the "Oh Yah, what about the Criminal". Hand Grenades do a much better job at killing but the people that legally buy them pay the 200 bucks and just don't use them for mass killings no matter what the movies say. People that own Automatic Weapons pay the 200 bucks and are not the problem. But an 18 year old kid with a score to settle that buys it without paying the 200 bucks IS the problem. Actually, it isn't limited to age as the shootings can attest. You just have to be 18 years old or older. Not a problem if the 18 year old pays the 200 bucks for the license to possess one. There are many young people that have at least a class 4 or class D firearms license and you just don't hear about them doing these insane things.

Sorry to bust your bubble but I am not out to take your guns. I just suggest that we reclassify one specific weapon.

And I am telling you that it is beyond stupid to reclassify one specific Semiautomatic rifle because of the way it looks and no other reason.

You can fight it but the genie is out of the bottle. While the School Children that have been terrorized and traumatized can't vote, their parents can and in a few short years the children turn 18. And they agree with what I have said all along. Even many of the large Republican Donors are starting to remove support for anyone that will not go along those lines. Yes, these folks give millions each year to various Republican Candidates but they will not contribute to those that still spew the NRA Boilerplate responses. It's happening more and more each day. The Last Mass Shooting was the straw that broke the camels back. Too bad it didn't get a sore back 25 years ago.

Also, gun ownership continues to fall to its lowest levels ever, which means more and more guns are being concentrated in fewer and fewer hands. That's why the NRA wants to weaken restrictions so that crazy people, wife beaters, and terrorists can get guns...THEY NEED THE SALES TO STAY PROFITABLE.

 

[Redfish]

WRong answer once again. Part of it is a culture. The Weapon I am specifically referring to is very much part of a culture. Now, name that Weapon. Go ahead and be very specific.

It matters not what any gun looks like only how it performs an the Ar 15 that you are so afraid of performs no differently than any other semiautomatic in existence

Now, was that painful? I hope not. The AR style has become a cult weapon. You can say how others are just as deadly but the AR is the weapon of choice for mass shootings. I am not saying we need to outlaw that specific weapon but we can up it in the firearms where you can't just walk into a store and purchase it in less than 30 minutes or you can't mail order it or buy it at a gunshow with no background check. If you wanted to keep yours then you can keep it. Just pay the 200 bucks that would be required, register the weapon and yourself and become responsible for the weapon and it's uses. ALL AR types used in the mass shootings were purchased legally so let's stop with the "Oh Yah, what about the Criminal". Hand Grenades do a much better job at killing but the people that legally buy them pay the 200 bucks and just don't use them for mass killings no matter what the movies say. People that own Automatic Weapons pay the 200 bucks and are not the problem. But an 18 year old kid with a score to settle that buys it without paying the 200 bucks IS the problem. Actually, it isn't limited to age as the shootings can attest. You just have to be 18 years old or older. Not a problem if the 18 year old pays the 200 bucks for the license to possess one. There are many young people that have at least a class 4 or class D firearms license and you just don't hear about them doing these insane things.

Sorry to bust your bubble but I am not out to take your guns. I just suggest that we reclassify one specific weapon.

And I am telling you that it is beyond stupid to reclassify one specific Semiautomatic rifle because of the way it looks and no other reason.

You can fight it but the genie is out of the bottle. While the School Children that have been terrorized and traumatized can't vote, their parents can and in a few short years the children turn 18. And they agree with what I have said all along. Even many of the large Republican Donors are starting to remove support for anyone that will not go along those lines. Yes, these folks give millions each year to various Republican Candidates but they will not contribute to those that still spew the NRA Boilerplate responses. It's happening more and more each day. The Last Mass Shooting was the straw that broke the camels back. Too bad it didn't get a sore back 25 years ago.

Also, gun ownership continues to fall to its lowest levels ever, which means more and more guns are being concentrated in fewer and fewer hands. That's why the NRA wants to weaken restrictions so that crazy people, wife beaters, and terrorists can get guns...THEY NEED THE SALES TO STAY PROFITABLE.

nothing in your post is true.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

USA is the worst country in terms of gu related dearhs/mass shootings. So there is clearly a gun problem. Why do you need a gun ? Insecure? Or ready to kill when you are pissed at the world?

what do I need a gun for? many reasons-one of them being to prevent people like you from trying to strip away our rights

Why do I need a gun? I don't absolutely need a gun. I want one and have one. One of the reasons I might need a gun is when people like you try and take away my rights like outlined in the 1st amendment. You seem to forget that amendment.

You don’t understand the second amendment obviously

Not as you interpret it, no. And you are forgetting the 1st amendment almost entirely.

The main purpose of the 2nd Amendment is to keep American citizens from being disarmed by an oppressive US government and forced to live in a police state where only the government has weapons....like maybe a Gestapo controlled by some asshole like Obama. Remember, that sleazy bastard suggested we have a national police force under his control. Dreams of his father.

I somewhat agree. But when we look back on just before it was created, it was also a prime tool for getting food on the table. The Crown wanted ALL weapons seized from anyone not listed as a Tory. Most of the people couldn't even feed themselves it their weapons were confiscated. Believe it or not, most Colonialists could care less who governed them. But when you threaten to take away the very thing that puts meat on the table, the lines get drawn very quickly. The Crown trying to do this caused many that were fence sitting to swing to the Rebels side.